Ya no for sure, the value right now is not on par with the difficulty by any means.  I'm too lazy to move my miners again at the moment but I don't get it.

Own.  We actually have more than that, but I'm the only IT guy and my partner just loves to keep buying equipment, but I do NOT love running out there to set it up.  I own my own company, bottom line is, in the time it's taken me to set them up, babysit them during burn in, etc, I probably would have made 2x the value of the equipment just in my hourly lol

Yah it's going up fast.  I'm so mad cause I hashed (20m/h) all night Saturday night, but they had that block explorer problem and I lost everything I mined >1500.  Polo has no idea where the coins are.  Just sent a message to the dev maybe they can shed some light.  And then of course the coin starts rising the next day lol.

I'm lucky like that.

There's a lot of little things that can be done, but I'm assuming this is a small team like most crypto.  If I wasn't lazy I'd consider doing one with the people I know.  Some basic things that literally require no effort, just a bit of knowledge:

I was just about to post that they should add forums and noticed that they just did.  Those that are passionate about the coin should sign up, and show some activity.  Helps settle worries/doubts.

SSL (https) is easy to implement as well, someone mentioned their concern of it here.  Most don't know how it works, but people have been conditioned to understand that its important.  The entire process takes <30 min to configure (though about 2-days for the CA to go through) and it's cheap.

The little things matter of course, awareness being one of the most important.  I don't know much about the dutch culture but I'm learning.

Value is another issue.  The coin is moving up nicely, but the guy who bought all those coins early jumped the gun on a huge sell order thus hindering it's growth for the time being trying to turn short term profit.

If the value of it increases, awareness will, thus more people claiming their coins, yadda yadda.  So whoever the short sighted whale is, we're going to be stagnate for now.  He should have offloaded slowly as to not hinder growth but it is what it is.

I thought it was already posted here that you can submit most of the info and leave out certain fields and still receive the coin.  The Dev has to find a healthy balance so people aren't scamming the system and only the Dutch are receiving coins.  

The current method is the down and dirty method, which yes, is causing a slight uproar.  Though it's not as if this can't be changed, I still haven't seen any solid recommendations to how they should proceed that protects your identities AND wards of identity spoofing to receive coins.  

There's 2 worst case scenarios that I see regarding the distribution.

1)  Site gets hacked/database gets compromised and that information is leaked (bad).  This is easily remedied if he purges the database to offline storage every 24 hours and encrypted.  Ensuring the information of the individual is not kept online and easily accessible.  Since it's just for verification purposes anyway, after the coin is handed out, there's no need for it to be accessible online anymore.

2)  The system is changed with less strict information.  Spoofers find a loophole and get coins that were supposed go to the Dutch citizens, pre-mine doesn't have enough to cover all Citizens.  Thus the whole trust factor is gone, and the system fails.

1 is the easiest workaround for now.

2 I don't see as feasible, too risky.

I'd recommend almost going through a third party verification system.  I don't know if your country has one (short of government levels of course), but that would be the happy medium.  Bottom line, there's always a risk.  Sony's been hacked, Yahoo's been hacked, Target's been hacked, the list goes on.  Millions of user information and CC and such distributed (and those are just in the last two years).  The internet is a "risky" place, you jeopardize your privacy for the freedom of it by going on it daily.  I'd assume your country has safeguards in place for identity theft, I know we do.  I've never, in over a decade of IT experience had someone get identity theft and the CC/Bank not cover them for losses completely.  

I suspect if the dev is passionate about this project, safeguards will be put in place over time, and things will be improved to quell concerns.

IDK if you guys follow world news, but consider my country (USA) healthcare.gov site.  First few days into it all information was no more secure than this dev's site, and that's my government with enormous spending, social security #'s, etc all non-encrypted across the front end.  Let's face it, in terms of security on the net, most dev's tend to be reactive, not proactive unfortunately.

I recommend you guys just keep positive, send in some ideas that are functional rather than offering no solutions and just complaining.  If realistic ideas come up, and the dev's don't follow it, then you can pounce on them.

Sorry for the novel, just trying to keep things constructive.

I saw you mining it last week, but you were smarter than I was as I moved on to another coin =D.

Wish I woulda stayed mining it lol.  I'm glad you posted here though so people weren't all up in arms saying it was the dev's that dumped.  Kudos to you.

Started mining again, the dev's have been so active with constant updates, feel like this coin has a chance to move in a positive direction.

It's crazy all the negativity.  

Dev said he was going to distribute, he is, was good on his word and on the day.  He's been active (moreso than I see a lot of these other coins and dev's).  

And you people are all crying "I'm not going to claim it because I don't like how you did it waaaaaa"  Bunch of spoiled little babies, go take your toys and stomp your feet home.

Like he said, don't like the distribution?  Offer up a better alternative.

And profitability < LTC.

Our opinions differ on what "great" means.

If I'm posting in the wrong place I apologize.  Move it to where it needs to be or I can.

Anyway, in Michigan but can ship, selling 4x 290x's (sapphire tri-oc's)

660$ each, or 640 if all 4 are purchased together (if you're close and shipping costs are lower, the overall price will be lowered with it).  We have sap 290's as well but we're still deciding if we just want to keep them or not ( 2 @ 930k/khash stable, 1 @ 880).  We actually have more than these, but we're only parting with a few for now depending on how things progress.

Info:

~3 weeks old
Have receipt, standard warranty (2-year for Sap), there have been absolutely no violations to sapphire warranty *(removal of HS, firmware swaps,  etc).  They are very strict about any hardware modifications to my knowledge.

Original everything (box, cables... hdmi cable and pci express adapter, static bag, etc).

"Mint" or I guess "Excellent" condition, but they HAVE been opened and used for ~ 3 weeks for burn-in/testing.

History:  We build and host gpu miners for people, had an investor pull out last minute after testing his requested hardware.  We decided to refund his deposit and keep the hardware.  Thought about it later and instead of exchanging we're just going to sell as 290x's require a bit more hardware than we need for our standard builds (just being honest, the cards require a lot of juice, min 1200w psu for 3 on OC's.  Our rack mounts don't have the size to fit the size PSU and they are kind of the black sheep of our current gpu builds).  I'll probably miss them, but they have been a PITA with my current remote management.  I know, I'm not the best seller on earth.

Can confirm the following:

1)  Temps under 80c at peak load OC'd @ 70% fan (it's a sap tri-oc, they don't overheat... like at all.  70% fan is just what I set everything at).  These temps are without any air flow, just open rig.  Under outside fan control you're looking at closer to 60c.

2)  All 4 290x's OC just fine, have long term stability screen shots at 1008-1010 k/hash on cgminer on a gigabyte board.  On our Asrock's we run them closer to 960 each stable 100% uptime @5 days.  In other words, it's not one of the memory sets that crap on themselves the second you push them past stock.  I run them lower because I use teamviewer and it tends to make cgminer go b-sh... crazy if I don't keep the clocks down.   Obviously can't guarantee your setup will yield perfect results, but just wanted to give you an idea of expectations.  Benchmarks have been done on Windows 8.1 (the 1m+) and BAMT (950-960).  Admittedly I haven't spent as much time pushing them in BAMT.  Once they're up, stable as a rock though, no HW errors.

3)  Cool with paypal, BTC (escrow's fine if needed), etc etc etc.  This isn't some scam and I can show my personal company information, location, address, yadda yadda for serious buyers.  Regardless, we'll meet whatever requirements that are necessary to make you feel at ease on you purchase.

PM for further info/inquiries.

I don't respond to trolls that feel obligated to put their two cents in to every post here to + their post count, look elsewhere <3.

Thanks,

J

If I'm posting in the wrong place I apologize.  Move it to where it needs to be or I can.

Anyway, in Michigan but can ship, selling 4x 290x's (sapphire tri-oc's)

660$ each, or 640 if all 4 are purchased together (if you're close and shipping costs are lower, the overall price will be lowered with it).  We have sap 290's as well but we're still deciding if we just want to keep them or not ( 2 @ 930k/khash stable, 1 @ 880).  We actually have more than these, but we're only parting with a few for now depending on how things progress.

Info:

~3 weeks old
Have receipt, standard warranty (2-year for Sap), there have been absolutely no violations to sapphire warranty *(removal of HS, firmware swaps,  etc).  They are very strict about any hardware modifications to my knowledge.

Original everything (box, cables... hdmi cable and pci express adapter, static bag, etc).

"Mint" or I guess "Excellent" condition, but they HAVE been opened and used for ~ 3 weeks for burn-in/testing.

History:  We build and host gpu miners for people, had an investor pull out last minute after testing his requested hardware.  We decided to refund his deposit and keep the hardware.  Thought about it later and instead of exchanging we're just going to sell as 290x's require a bit more hardware than we need for our standard builds (just being honest, the cards require a lot of juice, min 1200w psu for 3 on OC's.  Our rack mounts don't have the size to fit the size PSU and they are kind of the black sheep of our current gpu builds).  I'll probably miss them, but they have been a PITA with my current remote management.  I know, I'm not the best seller on earth.

Can confirm the following:

1)  Temps under 80c at peak load OC'd @ 70% fan (it's a sap tri-oc, they don't overheat... like at all.  70% fan is just what I set everything at).  These temps are without any air flow, just open rig.  Under outside fan control you're looking at closer to 60c.

2)  All 4 290x's OC just fine, have long term stability screen shots at 1008-1010 k/hash on cgminer on a gigabyte board.  On our Asrock's we run them closer to 960 each stable 100% uptime @5 days.  In other words, it's not one of the memory sets that crap on themselves the second you push them past stock.  I run them lower because I use teamviewer and it tends to make cgminer go b-sh... crazy if I don't keep the clocks down.   Obviously can't guarantee your setup will yield perfect results, but just wanted to give you an idea of expectations.  Benchmarks have been done on Windows 8.1 (the 1m+) and BAMT (950-960).  Admittedly I haven't spent as much time pushing them in BAMT.  Once they're up, stable as a rock though, no HW errors.

3)  Cool with paypal, BTC (escrow's fine if needed), etc etc etc.  This isn't some scam and I can show my personal company information, location, address, yadda yadda for serious buyers.  Regardless, we'll meet whatever requirements that are necessary to make you feel at ease on you purchase.

PM for further info/inquiries.

I don't respond to trolls that feel obligated to put their two cents in to every post here to + their post count, look elsewhere <3.

Thanks,

J


(I just saw the marketplace forum, apologies to the mods, I will re-post there.  Please delete this thread). 

That's pretty poor speeds anyway.  Both of my 6x rig's are ~1750-1850 (I keep it at 1750, as one or more of the cards doesn't like my modest OC and I haven't figured out which one yet, tho it runs stable 12+ hours before acting up.  At 1750-1800 it doesn't have any issues) and temps aren't even moving over 55 (no case, just a desk fan).  I suspect improvements to cudaminer and possibly nvidia drivers will increase that slightly as well.  So far I'm pretty happy with the 750 ti's (power draw) over my 290's, 290x's. 

Need to take the rig to my kill-o-watt tho still to really determine the difference in cost @ wall.

I'm excited for the next release in the series.  Anyone else noticed that these have incredibly low reject rates?

Wow.  Few more hours and it's going to be 0-5 x2, 5-60 x1, 60+ x.5

lol

I got in when it was at like 2gh's, some whale moved over with ~20gh's on his own (from Waffle since that's where he usually sits).

Oh well, it was fun for a minute, now it's meh. 

"Hi we're going to offer a 7 day promotion"

less than 1 day in

"Hi, we're going to alter the promotion so its useless for the 'final' 6 days, thanks for playing"

=D

This will be for trades/mining for future transactions.  Will update as needed, thanks!

The last few hours have been the worst results i've seen since I've joined this pool.  I added two large miners today (nearly doubling my hash rate) and my current earnings over the last few hours are almost the same as it was before the additions...

Concerning to say the least.