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You haven't been banned, but your thread was trashed because of the fake conversations getting out of hand. Especially, because a lot of those accounts were getting banned, and a lot of replies were deleted. However, your agency or whatever continued to post fake conversations within the thread. Therefore, the thread has been trashed. You haven't been banned yet which means you're free to open your thread up again. However, if the same sort of pattern ensures its much more likely that the issue will be dealt with more severely.
This is the correct approach. We've made a mistake and we take the blame by posting our understanding to respect the rules of the community because it is normal to be so. We've fell into a trap without our will but a friendly attitude can help us all to progress and find a way for dialogue. Thank you Welsh for your willingness to understand that the incident is the result of an assumed mistake for which we have already been punished. We hope we can make it up to the community by explaining more transparent and honest what this project is all about. |
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It is obvious that we were a little naive and this was a big mistake, the agency in charge regarding communication assumed it and we apologize to the community from this forum for the incident created.
The thread has been deleted and we consider this legitimate from the moderator. We really wish things to stop here because there are some members who are very vocal and consider our mistake unforgettable. But let me ask you: by removing us from this forum, suddenly all the spam situations will be solved? We are open to make things right and to show that the incident was an unfortunate and isolated event from our party.
Regarding the disclosure of the agency name, we inform you that we can't do this because we've had and still have a good collaboration relationship. They have assured us that such an incident will not happen again; this mistake was made by some excessive zeal motivated employees.
Once again, we apologize to the community from this forum.
Lohncontrol Team
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No I can't.
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Why not? Do you have a non-disclosure agreement? First, we need to find an explanation for this incident primarily.
Explanation from whom? The agency you hired to maintain dialogue with the public (your words)? Exactly. It's only fair play to first get a point of view from them (the agency) because they were hired to outsource the communication services. On the other hand, both the project and the team are opened to any verification because everything is transparent. It is unfortunate that although I have expressed my willingness to answer to any question regarding the project, my efforts are considered hostile. |
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No I can't.This attitude would be very unfair and unproductive at this point. First, we need to find an explanation for this incident primarily. But still, because we are in this point of discussion, I would like to overcome this unpleasant moment, and I am offering to answer to any questions about the project, as long as someone is interested in something other than this questionable thread. Our project can be viewed on both lohncontrol.com and https://icobench.com/ico/lohn and it's extremely explicit and transparent. It is a real business project in which the blockchain has the role to secure the relationship between the parties involved in the ecosystem of the business services platform. We are also available on telegram: https://t.me/lohncontrol_announcements/ Thanks for understanding |
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we hired an agency with some people specialized in communication to maintain dialogue with the public. Quoted for reference. So you admit to hiring bump spammers. For your own financial gain, you pay people to spam this forum. Let me put it nicely: not cool! We haven't hired anyone to spam, but to maintain the social area of the project. If those employees made mistakes and put a bad light on our project, we will analyze the collaboration with them. First of all, we also need a point of view from them, because for our team, we've just discovered the incident. Anyway, it is not so unusual for a project to employ specialized agencies. The whole purpose for communication and marketing agencies is to offer services to some projects. Our only regret is that we have not closely followed their activity. |
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Greetings to all ! I'm Val, Art director at Lohncontrol and I think we owe you some explanations regarding this situation: At the time of launching the project I've explained on the forum in the first 20-30 posts about what Lohncontrol is, how it works and what our objective is. For transparency, we also explained in this topic: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5156593.0 on a different section, and also, in romanian section, because we are a predominant romanian team: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5152788.0 Then, in order to focus on the actual development of the project, we hired an agency with some people specialized in communication to maintain dialogue with the public. We regret the incident created and we assume the failure of correct communication with our supporters, but as you can see on our site and on icobench.com, Lohncontrol is appreciated by connoisseurs because we have managed to coagulate a strong team, with many specializations and international business experience For the moment we are in full process of discussions in order to develop partnership with many valuable projects capable of providing complementary services to our wide platform and helping the project reach to its target. We will try in the future to pay more attention to both public expectations and outsourcing of certain services. Thanks for your support. p.s. we were also faced with a clone problem (see: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5173500.0 ) so, we were pretty busy regarding this issue. |
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Have you had an IEO with them? How was the experience ? DId you not encounter any problems at all with deposits and withdrawals?
No, we did not have any interaction with them. We just want people to know that! |
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Hello everyone! I represent lohncontrol and I respond under the impulse that this is the first time I hear about this gross theft of intellectual property and theft of identity. At first I couldn't believe what I was reading and I’m seeing. www.lohncontrol.com website copied with so much naivety. My question is how does vindax proceed when is listing icos, how do they do the kyc, the veracity and authenticity of the project? By comparison: Domain www.lohncontrol.com is at least one and a half year old and any information regarding ownership and team for this ico is transparent; we are working for at least 3 years on this project and we have a viable MVP (bursadelohn.ro) We’ve passed severe kyc process from icobench.com (where we are listed since the beginning with a very ascending rating 4.8 and very good recommendations ): visit https://icobench.com/ico/lohn We have a very diversified and multicultural team (some of them listed as people of blockchain on icobench- visit team section from https://icobench.com/ico/lohn ) consisting in entrepreneurs with strong expertise in customer management, logistics, quality management, legal services and frameworks, industrial engineering, payment solutions and financial risk management. We have the honor to be advised by Hamza Khan and Sean Brizendine, both with extensive experience in ico and blockchain technology. But the undoubted proof that HYMNODE is a gross fraud is their website (design and ALL information within): Everything is copied –copy-paste from lohncontrol.com! even the “mvp” menu section which they don’t have! The diagrams, the charts are all under intellectual property of lohncontrol.com from the scratch. They don't have a team, they don't have a whitepaper! If you pay attention on www.hymnode.com there are some sections sloppy copied (even the symbol for their token is still LOHN symbol ... regardless that they've named it HNT); also, in the html code (right click on their page- view source, LINE 53 : <div class="cardcontainer" style="display:none">) there are some elements not displayed visually but they exist in the source of the website; The header section contain a animation that reprezent the LOHN CIRCLE hidden in source. that animation still exists in our older versions of our homepage (proven by our github.com project page) But enough is enough. In here by this, I want to report a fraud, a theft of intellectual property made by HYMNODE (Whoever they really are) I am here to anwer to any questions (in the meantime I already contacted vindax and put flags everywhere I could. Our official Bitcointalk ANN thread is https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5146615 Thanks for your attention Lohncontrol team |
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What does WE DO NOT TOUCH THE MONEY mean?
Under a lohn contract hosted on the lohncontract.com platform, the buyer has the obligation to immobilize in the smart lohncontrol contract of each transaction a number of tokens whose value will have to be equal to the amount that he has to pay to all parties involved in the contract.
In this way, the money needed for the payments will be available from the outset in a smart contract and will be transferable as soon as the tasks of each party are met. The registration and execution of transactions will be secured in the blockchain by the Proof of Tasks consensus protocol.
In fulfilling the tasks recorded in the smart lohncontrol contract, each party will receive payment for services or goods delivered in LOHN token that will be redeemed by the platform at market value.
Imobilisation of payment tokens in the smart lohncontrol contract excludes the "third party" behavior of the platform by confirming the principle WE DO NOT TOUCH THE MONEY.
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TOKEN SALE
• Ticker LOHN
• Token type utility ERC20
• Total Tokens 1.000.000.000
• Circulating Tokens 1.000.000.000
• ITO Token Price 1 LOHN = 0.06 USD
• Fundraising Goal:
Min. 100.000.000 LOHN
Max. 400.000.000 LOHN
• Whitelist Yes
• KYC Yes (over 10.000$ invested)
• Min Personal Cap 1 ETH
• Accepts: ETH
• Can't participate: USA, CANADA, CHINA, SOUTH KOREA, SEYCHELLES
• ITO 40% (Initial Token Offering)
• TEAM 22%
• LOHN FOUNDATION 5%
• LOHN STOCK 30%
• BOUNTY 3%
The reserve required to ensure the operation of the platform lohncontract.com.
Locked in smart contract.
FUNDS DISTRIBUTION
Software development 25%
Platform management 45%
Marketing strategy 25%
LOHN Foundation 10%
Legal support 5%
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Hi again !
Why is the lohncontract.com platform different from other projects?
The business services platform lohncontract.com is primarily a digital platform where the producers' access is free and this is due to the fact that they have the lowest profit under a lohn contract. The connection with the blockchain secures financially the transaction because the smart lohncontrol of the platform immobilizes the money needed to make all the payments from the moment the offer is launched. Thus, the manufacturers focus exclusively on the realization of the contracted products, reducing to the utmost the personnel who pursue the settlement, the deliveries or the problems related to legal services, or international law on the performance of lohn contracts.
The platform eliminates intermediaries of any kind, maximizing the profits of producers. At the same time, it offers all parties involved a global visibility eliminating geographical and linguistic barriers.
The platform is intuitive, simple to use, integrates artificial intelligence solutions that lead to the automation of repetitive processes, is in one word-user friendly.
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OUR PRODUCT
Lohncontrol proposes the lohncontract.com trading platform that will in fact be a business services platform for processing economy. The tergeted users are the small and medium-sized firms worldwide, responsible for 60% of GDP, who will have the opportunity to develop business directly between them, escalating geographical, cultural or linguistic barriers. Specifically, a small company from a developed economy will have an organized trading environment and some secure business tools to launch orders for the manufacture of goods according to their own specifications. Its partner may also be a small production company in an emerging economy. The platform will provide a safe and honest environment in which they can develop joint business. The platform creates an ecosystem in which buyers and producers will be the main actors in processing economy activities. In addition, other companies will offer complementary services or products: suppliers of raw materials, logistics, quality management, industrial process management, legal services and settlement of payments between the parties. Never the small and medium-sized firms around the world have been in a single project with so many working tools to grow their businesses and optimize their profits. lohncontract.com, the business services platform developed by the lohncontrol project, it will be such a place. https://lohncontrol.com https://icobench.com/ico/lohn
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OUR VISION The lohn (processing economy) has been and will be a solution to produce goods at reasonable and high-quality prices through the efficient use of labor and cheap raw materials in emerging economies. It is also a business model that creates economic and social progress across the world bringing together markets with productive resources and capabilities. The trading platform developed by the lohncontrol project will create global opportunities for small and medium-sized businesses that are responsible for generating 60% of GDP. It will give them a visibility that they do not have at this time and will encourage the development of direct business between them. This means low manufacturing costs and greater adaptation to market demands. Those who will win at the end of this interaction will be consumers who will get good products at realistic prices. The platform will revolutionize the processing economy, over 50 years old, creating a new business model with rigorous management and user friendly experience provided by blockchain technology. The blockchain will introduce a new element in the relationship between the parts of a processing economy (lohn) contract, namely the trustworthy protocol. This trust provided by the lohncontrol smart contract within the trading platform will mean a guarantee of honesty for all parties involved. In this way those who will order consumer goods will have the certainty that they will receive them and its will be made to the quality standards imposed by them and those who will produce them will have the comfort that they will receive the money for their work. https://lohncontrol.com/ https://icobench.com/ico/lohn
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OUR TEAM The team is a complex team of people with strong expertise in customer management, logistics, quality management, legal services and frameworks, industrial engineering, payment solutions and financial risk management. It was built on the architecture of the lohncontrol project in the sense that each member of the team covers one section of the trading platform and has the responsibility to manage this section through the acquired experience. The team is made up of entrepreneurs with many projects and people accustomed to the rhythm and rigor of multinational work. Each of them has performed in the activities, he/she has developed by acquiring a know-how that made him/her eligible for the lohncontrol team. In the project they will capitalize their own gained experience and will add value to the business services ecosystem that lohncontrol proposes. The team is a great puzzle of expertise and abilities in main or complementary activities of processing economy. https://lohncontrol.com/ https://www.lohncontrol.com/down/Lohncontrol-light-whitepaper.pdf https://icobench.com/ico/lohn
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Ce este diferit la platforma lohncontract.com ?
Arhitectura blockchain a ecosistemului lohncontract.com este menita sa ofere confort psihic tuturor partilor implicate care vor sti ca plata pentru serviciile prestate sau pentru marfurile livrate in cadrul contractului de lohn se va face in mod independent de catre smart contract la momentul indeplinirii sarcinilor asumate.Blockchain-ul introduce astfel un protocol de incredere fara de care firme aflate in diferite parti ale lumii, din culturi economice diferite nu ar putea interactiona sau daca ar face-o si-ar asuma riscuri financiare ridicate.Smart Contract Rating System este o sectiune a ecosistemului lohncontract.com care arhiveaza in blockchain in mod continuu procentul de indeplinire a taskurilor si comportamentul in piata al fiecarei parti implicate intr-un contract de lohn generand un calificativ de incredere care va oferi o orientare precisa in alegerea partenerilor de afaceri.Va exista astfel o preocupare neintrerupta a fiecarui actor al smart contractului de a-si proteja imaginea si istoricul de afaceri printr-o conduita onesta si profesionista deoarece un calificativ bun ii va aduce si clientii asteptati.
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Ce este proiectul lohncontrol.com ?
Lohncontrol.com este un vehicul tehnologic dezvoltat pentru a construi platforma lohncontract.com, destinata producției in regim lohn în peste 30 de ramuri industriale, pe baza unei inovații tehnologice proprii, noul protocol blockchain de consens Proof-of-Tasks integrat in lohncontrol smart contract.
Lohncontrol smart contract gestionează in blockchain relația dintre părțile implicate într-un contract de lohn in baza unei condiționalități de tip if/then care asigură platile destinate părților la îndeplinirea sarcinilor fiecăreia.Noul protocol de consens are la origine protocolul Ethereum Proof-of-Stake fiind un protocol eco friendly in sensul că operațiunea de mining nu este consumatoare de energie electrică ci validarea blocurilor este de tip stake.Practic operațiunea de mining a smart contractelor tranzacțiilor are doi validatori principali, in primul rand platforma care minează template-urile blocurilor înscriind informația în header-ul acestora și în al doilea rând validatorii independenți care finalizează operațiunea de mining după ce API-urile raportează îndeplinirea taskurilor și integrează blocurile in blockchain.
Proof-of-Tasks este în esență un protocol de încredere care securizează interacțiunea dintre companii din medii economice și culturale diferite aflate de cele mai multe ori la distante geografice considerabile unele față de celelalte.
Serviciile platformei sunt condiționate de imobilizarea in lohncontrol smart contract la lansarea unei cereri de oferta a unui număr de LOHN tokens egal ca valoare cu suma care trebuie plătită în cadrul contractului pentru bunurile și serviciile livrate.
Aceasta caracteristica face din LOHN un token de tip utility si coroboreaza gradul de utilizare a platformei cu performanța prețului acestuia.
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TOKEN SALE
• Ticker LOHN
• Token type utility ERC20
• Total Tokens 1.000.000.000
• Circulating Tokens 1.000.000.000
• ITO Token Price 1 LOHN = 0.06 USD
• Fundraising Goal:
Min. 100.000.000 LOHN
Max. 400.000.000 LOHN
• Whitelist Yes
• KYC Yes (over 10.000$ invested)
• Min Personal Cap 1 ETH
• Accepts: ETH
• Can't participate: USA, CANADA, CHINA, SOUTH KOREA, SEYCHELLES
• ITO 40% (Initial Token Offering)
• TEAM 22%
• LOHN FOUNDATION 5%
• LOHN STOCK 30%
• BOUNTY 3%
The reserve required to ensure the operation of the platform lohncontract.com.
Locked in smart contract.
FUNDS DISTRIBUTION
Software development 25%
Platform management 45%
Marketing strategy 25%
LOHN Foundation 10%
Legal support 5%
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How will lohncontract.com actually work?
The platform will be a dynamic, complex ecosystem that will integrate all parties involved into a lohn contract and their relationships will be managed independently in the blockchain through the lohncontrol Smart Contract that will release the payments due to each one to fulfill the tasks initially allocated.
The main actors of this ecosystem will be buyers from developed economies who want to produce quality and cheap goods and manufacturers from developing economies interested in these orders. The relationship between them will be possible with the participation of some directly involved actors such as transport companies, connected logistics, warehouses, then quality control experts who are engaged in industrial production processes and finally the providers of payment solutions within the smart the contract, which closes the economic circuit.
Equally important in the performance of the lohn contract but with indirect involvement in the smart contract are the secondary actors in the second series, namely raw material suppliers, internal suppliers, utilities suppliers and then framework providers for software infrastructure, financial risk management, data providers, financial risk insurance, legal services.
In the production process management area, industrial process engineers, industry specialists, development partners will be involved, and the ecosystem will mobilize financial institutions: clearing houses, friendly banks, escrow partners, funding solutions, blockchain accounts on the settlement area.
The blockhain architecture of the lohncontract.com ecosystem is designed to provide psychological comfort to all parties involved who will know that the payment for the services provided or the goods delivered under the lohn contract will be made independently by the smart contract at the time of the assumed tasks.
The blockchain thus introduces a trustworthy protocol without which firms located in different parts of the world, from different economic cultures, would not be able to interact or would do so and would incur high financial risks.
The Smart Contract Rating System is a section of the lohncontract.com ecosystem that continually archives blockchain on the percentage of task accomplishment and market behaviour of each party involved in a lohn contract generating a trustworthy rating that will provide a precise orientation in choice of business partners. There will be an uninterrupted concern for each smart contract actor to protect his image and business history through honest and professional conduct as a good qualifier will also bring his expected customers.
The lohncontract.com trading platform will provide small and medium-sized businesses around the world with access to some of the business opportunities currently reserved to major economic players, linking through disruptive technology-blockchain niche projects to manufacturing and commercialization of industrial goods, projects which exploits the appeal of consumer markets for quality products at competitive prices.
The platform provides the means, working methods and tools needed for a complex industrial production process in an honest, trustworthy and safe domestic environment for all parties to a lohn contract.
The lohn, which is based on low labour costs and raw materials in emerging economies, will be a business solution as long as there are developed and developing countries in the world.
At present, the annual production achieved in lohn globally exceeds 10,000 B $, representing 10% of Gross Domestic Product.
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