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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 10, 2018, 10:12:12 PM
One of the best and most profitable forecasting platform for me also so long. I have received so many good tokens that my wings have become free for me. It will be used continuously for other forecast . Why Wings is still still I don't understand this thing only seeing the usage of this.
I agree with you, i also have received very many different tokens since the platform started to work. I just don't understand how the price is still so cheap, i would have expected it to be at least 1$ per token until now.
The price of the Wings token cost more than $ 2 in winter. In the winter, you could sell tokens and get a good profit. I believe that the wings in the first place have to buy for forecasting projects.
Here you can see the forecasters with the highest Forecast Rating to date: https://wings-utilities.com/

Dont forget to sign up for the Liquid Airdrop. To win the contest and to have 256,000 Wings delegated to you for 11 months, you have to do more than have the highest forecast rating, you have to sign up to be eligible. https://blog.wings.ai/wings-liquid-airdrop-35f409d39d0b

For info on how to collect 5000 Wings for convincing a project to utilize wings: https://blog.wings.ai/ethereum-erc20-project-listings-community-rewards-eggs-v2-0-launch-b3c4d9f08eb5

For info on the community cares program: https://blog.wings.ai/wings-community-cares-program-aka-eggs-version-2-0-ca3a4d1935e2


2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 09, 2018, 05:49:10 AM
And I don't understand, why price of Wings tokens too low. Team presented Beta version, market of altcoins had rising trends. But WINGS price doesn't growing.
For the forecaster, on the contrary, it is very good, if Wings tokens will cost as little as possible. Wings already allow you to earn money by participating in projections.
p.s. If the platform in the future becomes very popular, then the price of tokens will grow.
Very true. And the community can help the platform to become more popular and earn up to 5000 Wings for bringing projects to the platform. For more info read the blog below.

https://blog.wings.ai/ethereum-erc20-project-listings-community-rewards-eggs-v2-0-launch-b3c4d9f08eb5

3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 05, 2018, 05:43:01 PM
Hmm... Huge reward from INS and the price go down, strange correlation. If I've receive reward from INS 20-50% of that reward goes to wings Grin
I thought the same thing! 1 Million dollars worth of rewards, from 1 forecast! Biggest reward worth over $170K USD, yet the price of Wings either doesn't move or slightly down.

I guess the people earning rewards are happy with the amount of Wings they own, and the people who are buying and selling on exchanges are just day trading and not realizing they can use the wings to earn fantastic awards without risking losing their wings if their forecast is bad.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][SALE] White Rabbit - A New Digital Streaming Reality. PRESALE LIVE! on: May 04, 2018, 02:00:50 AM
The original forecast was cancelled, and a new forecast for how much WhiteRabbit will raise in their upcoming token sale has been made available to forecast on.

WhiteRabbit is rewarding forecasters with 2% of WRT tokens for evaluating their project and making a prediction on the success of this token sale.

You hear people say all the time that more due diligence would be helpful from to prevent scammy projects and teams, Vitalik himself said that what we need is a DAICO to help protect the community from teams who collect funds and run away with the funds or fail to deliver.

WingsDao, is working on doing just that.

Many well known projects have utilized Wings for evaluating their whitepaper, teams, token economics, etc.

I am glad to see WhiteRabbit is doing their part to lead the way in showing that they believe in transparency and are willing to subject themselves to the feedback from hundreds of forecasters from the WingsDao community.

Anyone can take part in this, and the rewards can be fantastic.

Just today, a reward was paid out to Wings Forecasters who evaluated a token sale from another big project who utilized Wings for evaluation and promotion. In fact, this particular reward was worth over 1 Million U.S.D. which was divided amongst the forecasters who predicted how much that project would raise.

For those who do not know, you lock Wings tokens up and make an evaluation on a project, like WhiteRabbit who offer forecasters a percentage of their tokens to all who make an evaluation.

The more Wings you have and the closer you are to the final result, the more tokens you earn from that particular project.

No matter how bad your forecast is though, you never lose your Wings and can use them to forecast on any and all projects who utilize Wings.

Hands up to WhiteRabbit for leading the way, and hopefully one day, all projects will follow their lead and help weed out bad actors or poorly designed token economics.

Thank you WhiteRabbit.

To forecast on the success of this token sale or to see what others are forecasying, check it out here:

https://www.wings.ai/project/0xa1d4ad346d5b32bae809ca8e3c5180e07a4020e9

5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 03, 2018, 05:53:36 PM
Don't forget to claim the reward from forecasting on the WhiteRabbit and OS.University forecasts which were cancelled.

When a project is flagged by more than 51% or if a forecasting is cancelled, the 5,000 Wings deposit is split evenly amongst everyone who forecasted.

In these cases, everyone who forecasted on the first listing of WhiteRabbit will be able to claim approx 38 Wings, and 17 for the OS.University forecast which was cancelled.

The WhiteRabbit forecast has been relisted after a change was made to the contract, and a new forecast has been made available with the changes made, so don't forget to make another forecast if you haven't done so already.

https://medium.com/@JumpIn/wings-smart-contract-update-3948dc269a8d


thanks for info !
what is good is that even if I didn't gave red flag to O.S university I still get the reward so it's really nice. I don't know if that change something to my rate ranking but doesn't really care.

Whether you flagged O.S.University or not , it will not affect your FR as they cancelled the forecast on their own. You can read why here.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477055.msg36108227#msg36108227

Also, had you flagged it, and less than 51% of others did, your FR would only be affected if it had moved to the crowdfunding stage.

At that point, If your reward wound up being 0, your FR would only decrease if you claimed your reward that was worth nothing.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 03, 2018, 02:54:31 PM
 INS Ecosystem reward contract ready and filled with over 1 Million USD worth of INS tokens.

Made a forecast? Go claim your reward!

https://alpha.wings.ai/#!/home/project/0x7a26C5E0C11Dd09C2C4f507D2A3f04F29E242d9B/forecast
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 03, 2018, 10:06:51 AM
Don't forget to claim the reward from forecasting on the WhiteRabbit and OS.University forecasts which were cancelled.

When a project is flagged by more than 51% or if a forecasting is cancelled, the 5,000 Wings deposit is split evenly amongst everyone who forecasted.

In these cases, everyone who forecasted on the first listing of WhiteRabbit will be able to claim approx 38 Wings, and 17 for the OS.University forecast which was cancelled.

The WhiteRabbit forecast has been relisted after a change was made to the contract, and a new forecast has been made available with the changes made, so don't forget to make another forecast if you haven't done so already.

https://medium.com/@JumpIn/wings-smart-contract-update-3948dc269a8d
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 02, 2018, 04:15:43 PM
Hello, HristianD, and glad to see you here following up. I assure you, I am not trying to create a smear campaign. The last thing I would want, is to create a bad name for Wings by creating smear campaigns against projects which utilize WingsDao for evaluating their token sale.

For those of you who do not know the post he is responding to, here is the original post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477055.msg35976973#msg35976973

You say that my comments around Wings integration are baseless and that they have been answered already, and you included an article here.

https://medium.com/the-os-university-blog/faq-from-the-wings-community-3c4cb8266ddd

The most important part of this blog states "Currently the tech team is working on a solution for this after we’ve got in contact with them. Update on this point will follow shortly."

Until an update is made regarding this situation I will not unflag this project.

There are three ways to utilize Wings, and they are as follows.

In the Beta, anyone who deposits 5000 WINGS can post a project. The beta version also allows for automated and semi-automated payments of rewards to forecasters.  Note that projects can use the following methods:

1. WINGS contract generator of ERC20 token sale

This is fully automated

2. WINGS Integration (https://github.com/wingsdao/wings-integration)

This is fully automated IF implemented correctly.

3. WINGS Light Bridge (https://github.com/WingsDao/wings-light-bridge)

This is not fully automated; meaning the project serves as an oracle and manually fills the rewards tokens into the contract.

Method #1 is meant for projects which do not have an ICO contract already, if they do forecasters are recommended to question the project leads as to why they are planning to issue 2 tokens.

Method #2 forecasters are recommended to collaborate and read the actual smart contract(s) code to determine if the integration will work. If a contract with bad code is accepted, there is a possibility that rewards payments will not occur correctly.

Method #3 requires the forecasters to establish some form of trust with the project leads that they will carry out the requirements to resolve the forecast and make payment.  This is the most risky and requires extra care and due diligence on the part of the community.

Your project, chose to follow method 1, which is fully automated, meaning, for rewards to be calculated and for Wings forecasters to receive a reward, the contract will have to go thru all of the steps, from forecasting, countdown, launch, after the sale ends, the contract will calculate rewards, and last but not least, it allows a way for forecasters to claim their rewards.

And there lies the problem. Since the current contract does not allow KYC, and since you will be implementing KYC, you will not be able to go thru the steps needed for this to be an automated process, thus, forecasters will have no way to collect rewards, and in fact, rewards cannot even be calculated without going thru all of the steps.

The right thing to do, is cancel this forecast and either follow method 2, or method 3 so that wings forecasters can be rewarded for their due diligence.

As of now, my flagging is only about not implementing correctly and letting you know, that you need to cancel this forecast and unfortunately will have to pay another deposit of 5000 Wings to relist.

I still stand by my statement that everyone should flag this project, as it has been implemeted wrong, and although I believe O.S.University wants to give 3% of their tokens to the community, how will they calculate rewards? Manually? And if so, are they going to manually send the reward to all the forecasters? This is the only way I see that it could be done.

Do what is right, cancel this forecast and either follow method 1 or method 2!

I have not came to the conclusion, that this project is a "scam" as of yet. However, I would like to see an explanation as to why some of the funds that have been contributed to your presale have been withdrawn from the crowdsale wallet to the address below and then used to invest into the RxEal crowdsale.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x24820b6cf0ef6c4c5a61e90970eddbf050ef7c3e

Hello PublicP2poolNode,

Let me introduce myself - my name is Jordan Jambazov and I am the Technology Lead of the OS University project, as well as a co-founder of the project, actively involved with it since December 2016. The reason why I am stepping in the communication is because the way our WINGS project was set up is obviously wrong, and as you correctly suggested - there was a technological issue. What needs to happen is to cancel the forecast and proceed with Method #2 or #3.

During the last week we were actively trying to find a way to resolve the issue with the WINGS integration. Some of the options that we considered are: 1) migration of our existing presale contract to the WINGS smart contract and rewarding the investors through it - doesn't work, because WINGS smart contract lacks KYC support, which is essential for ICOs. 2) wrapping the WINGS EDU token smart contract with a new owner, which is another smart contract that could handle the KYC and we could still use the WINGS EDU token, without cancelling the project (doesn't work, as it violates the Keep It Simple principle & might contain security flaws). 3) cancel the forecast, and set up a new project with proper integration (Method #2 or #3)

That being mentioned, in order to protect the WINGS community, the OS University investors, as well as to eliminate the FUD, a decision has been made to cancel the WINGS forecast as of today. All feedback from the WINGS community is taken seriously and we are going to reflect on the issues being raised.

In regards to your last question about the transaction of 1.2 ETH performed to address 0x24820b6cf0ef6c4c5a61e90970eddbf050ef7c3e - the transaction was made to our representative for Global Blockchain forum event in Santa Clara, which helped the OS University project to build traction within the international community there.

Best Regards,
Jordan
Jordan, I want to thank you and the OS.University investors for listening to the concerns from this community and cancelling the current contract.

Also, thank you for clarifying my concerns regarding the transaction mentioned earlier. Transparency is very important.

I look forward to forecasting again on this project when the new contract is available for review.

I wish you and your team a successful campaign!
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 01, 2018, 07:31:55 PM
All who decline the O. S. University project, delete the forecast or change it because you will get undeserved deduction in the rating, if project not get 51% FR in the end of forecast! Thank you for listening.

The forecast closes in 6 days so if you decide to remove your "scam" flag please wait until the last moment to do this. If everybody does it now we can be sure the 51% required to reject this project will not be reached.

Agreed, there are 6 days left, plenty of time for OS.University to cancel this forecast and implement a contract that will allow forecasters to be rewarded for their forecasts, or for the Wings community to wake up, and realize why this forecast needs to be flagged, should OS.University not do what is right on their own accord, cancel this forecast and pay the 5000 Wings deposit to relist correctly and ensure rewards can be calculated and claimed.

I do not doubt they are willing to give us 3%, but unless they reimplement correctly they will be unable to do so without manually calculating rewards and manually sending them to each and every forecaster. And I believe even if they have good intentions, I do not think they realize how time consuming and costly this will be to do, and once they realize it, good intentions or otherwise, I wouldn't blame them for NOT following thru!

Flagging does not necessarily mean a project is a scam, flagging is also a way for the community to ensure they are awarded for their work by flagging projects who implement a contract incorrectly and which will not provide a way for rewards to be calculated and a way for the forecasters to claim a reward.

 Even if we do not reach 51% I will personally leave this project flagged until and unless my questions to this post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477055.msg36050512#msg36050512 are answered in a way that convince me to unflag this project.

Also, the only way your FR will go down from flagging this project, is if OS.University actually uses this contract for their crowdsale and not their own contract, and if they manage to raise an amount closer to the lowest forecasts or higher, rather than 0 which is how much a flagged forecast estimate would be.

@HristianD, can you answer whether or not OS.University is going to use the contract your team created with the Wings constructor for your token sale, or do you plan on using your own contract? And if you use your own contract, since you did not use a bridge, how does your team plan on calculating and distributing awards to the forecasters?

10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: May 01, 2018, 05:40:09 PM


Hi. I don't know if the comment above is a sincere one, or a smearing campaign, but let me start by introducing myself and following-up in the kindest of manner possible.My name is Hristian Daskalov. I am a co-founder of the Center for Open Science at the Technical University of Sofia and in that position of mine, I am the founder of OS.UNIVERSITY project.

I cannot express a stronger disagreement with the narrative that you are expressing in regards to the project itself, because this is the first-ever university ICO campaign worldwide, and as such, we have been working for almost 3 years to build the future of education on the blockchain in the most compliant and sustainable manner possible.

While most of your comments around the Wings integration are baseless, because they have clearly been answered already, i would like to speak solely about the project. The integration comments I will leave for my colleagues to answer if they decide that your comments are not biased. (we have a recent post on the subject in Medium, which you haven't looked at - https://medium.com/the-os-university-blog/faq-from-the-wings-community-3c4cb8266ddd)

There is a 20-minute video interview of mine on Bloomberg TV, regarding the project, that was aired just days ago - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oWV8wdh2GgQ . As you will see from the interview itself, we are leading an international R&D edtech initiative, and the crowdsale campaign is just a small, yet important part of what we do. It is not an end-goal and this is quite obvious, given our upcoming launch in JUNE, before the crowdsale (!). What kind of a scam project will launch the actual product prior to the fund-raising round?

And if a team goes ahead with its product, i.e. platform, where its utility token can get in use for the holders, how can this be called a scam with all the ignorance and arrogance on the world? I really try to understand your logic, but it is a logic that excludes actually reading anything that is loosely related to our official documentation at www.os.university.

If you really want to investigate a project investment-wise, start by reading the investment brief at the last page of our pitch deck, where we have clearly outlined the funds raised thus far https://os.university/static/pitch-deck.pdf and the fact that most of our backers are non-retail investors with their names, brands, place on our roadmap and role as early adopters.

And here is something educational to end up with. If you really want to lead people around investing, here is how you valuate a token - https://drive.google.com/file/d/1sCN-w0u7wLbsS1VqfnOqPoIFsnILRp8U/view.

Best of luck,
Hristian

Hello, HristianD, and glad to see you here following up. I assure you, I am not trying to create a smear campaign. The last thing I would want, is to create a bad name for Wings by creating smear campaigns against projects which utilize WingsDao for evaluating their token sale.

For those of you who do not know the post he is responding to, here is the original post. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1477055.msg35976973#msg35976973

You say that my comments around Wings integration are baseless and that they have been answered already, and you included an article here.

https://medium.com/the-os-university-blog/faq-from-the-wings-community-3c4cb8266ddd

The most important part of this blog states "Currently the tech team is working on a solution for this after we’ve got in contact with them. Update on this point will follow shortly."

Until an update is made regarding this situation I will not unflag this project.

There are three ways to utilize Wings, and they are as follows.

In the Beta, anyone who deposits 5000 WINGS can post a project. The beta version also allows for automated and semi-automated payments of rewards to forecasters.  Note that projects can use the following methods:

1. WINGS contract generator of ERC20 token sale

This is fully automated

2. WINGS Integration (https://github.com/wingsdao/wings-integration)

This is fully automated IF implemented correctly.

3. WINGS Light Bridge (https://github.com/WingsDao/wings-light-bridge)

This is not fully automated; meaning the project serves as an oracle and manually fills the rewards tokens into the contract.

Method #1 is meant for projects which do not have an ICO contract already, if they do forecasters are recommended to question the project leads as to why they are planning to issue 2 tokens.

Method #2 forecasters are recommended to collaborate and read the actual smart contract(s) code to determine if the integration will work. If a contract with bad code is accepted, there is a possibility that rewards payments will not occur correctly.

Method #3 requires the forecasters to establish some form of trust with the project leads that they will carry out the requirements to resolve the forecast and make payment.  This is the most risky and requires extra care and due diligence on the part of the community.

Your project, chose to follow method 1, which is fully automated, meaning, for rewards to be calculated and for Wings forecasters to receive a reward, the contract will have to go thru all of the steps, from forecasting, countdown, launch, after the sale ends, the contract will calculate rewards, and last but not least, it allows a way for forecasters to claim their rewards.

And there lies the problem. Since the current contract does not allow KYC, and since you will be implementing KYC, you will not be able to go thru the steps needed for this to be an automated process, thus, forecasters will have no way to collect rewards, and in fact, rewards cannot even be calculated without going thru all of the steps.

The right thing to do, is cancel this forecast and either follow method 2, or method 3 so that wings forecasters can be rewarded for their due diligence.

As of now, my flagging is only about not implementing correctly and letting you know, that you need to cancel this forecast and unfortunately will have to pay another deposit of 5000 Wings to relist.

I still stand by my statement that everyone should flag this project, as it has been implemeted wrong, and although I believe O.S.University wants to give 3% of their tokens to the community, how will they calculate rewards? Manually? And if so, are they going to manually send the reward to all the forecasters? This is the only way I see that it could be done.

Do what is right, cancel this forecast and either follow method 1 or method 2!

I have not came to the conclusion, that this project is a "scam" as of yet. However, I would like to see an explanation as to why some of the funds that have been contributed to your presale have been withdrawn from the crowdsale wallet to the address below and then used to invest into the RxEal crowdsale.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x24820b6cf0ef6c4c5a61e90970eddbf050ef7c3e
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: April 30, 2018, 06:30:35 PM
so, only yesterday OS.University was about 2k FR flagged, today is 11391 FR Flagged! 22% FR FLAGGED NOW! all info below:
The Academic & Career Development Ledger. Empowering 7 billion learners to connect to top education and professional opportunities.
Project: OS.University
Symbol: EDU
ETH Rewards: 0
Token Rewards: 30000
HardCap: 0
Median Forecast: 3984.9999999999995
Total Forecasters: 195
Total participating WINGS: 26873430
Link: https://www.wings.ai/project/0x5a7a85a0ad6da40a7dc81873474b1aca86540d26
FR Flagged: 11391
FR Forecasts: 51774
Time Left: 10 days, 0:30

I want to notice that decline the project, important only to the FR at the moment
I also flagged this project myself, and it is sad to me, that only 11% of the community has flagged this project.

Here are some reasons to flag this project if you have not done so already.

1) This contract used the wings constructor, rather than a custom contract integration, meaning, kyc is not implementd, and since os university has stated kyc will be done, this contract cannot be used, thus, the crowdsale contract they use in the token sale, will not be this one, meaning, there is no guarantee of being awarded no matter how close your forecast is.

2) There pre-sale ends today, and this is the address used for the crowdsale.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x849c2EA2A8f0ED0fe6D28B17Fa0f779d6a45dFf1

All funds sent to the presale address are then sent to this address.
https://etherscan.io/address/0x269d55ef8acfdf0b83ccd08278ab440f87f9e9d8
as you can see, there is only 16.88 ETH (11,485.00 worth of eth) in the presale wallet, and like i said, the presale ends in 5 hours, and has been running for a few months.

Now, i want to point out, that i dug a little deeper, and in fact, they have received more than 16.88 eth to this address. A little more than 50 ETH to be exact. How the hell do people think this project will raise millions in the main token sale, when they only raised 25,000 in over two months!!!
With 58K telegram followers? Give me a break...

Now, you ask, if they collected over 50 ETH in the presale, how come there is only 16.88 eth left in the presale wallet?

These are the addresses where some of the presale eth were sent too.

https://etherscan.io/address/0x3385b9f0eb8c32bbd51b41a3e6d523ebd6f69455
Here you can see, this address has interacted with kraken, poloniex, and bittrex... doesnt that seem odd to you?

https://etherscan.io/address/0xeb15467282497b59013b49d6c0e2df586959d47b
This address has been interacting with binance and poloniex

https://etherscan.io/address/0x1de794e7998607aad3e1958d4a6b09c3037db98a
This address has interacted with binance

https://etherscan.io/address/0x24820b6cf0ef6c4c5a61e90970eddbf050ef7c3e
This address is using presale funds to invest in tokens like RxReal

https://etherscan.io/address/0x991d142e036d49175af64e042a373fdedebdc4b0
This address also has been sending funds to multiple exchanges.

There are a few more addresses, where funds from the pre-sale have been sent.

Is this a scam?

I cannot say for sure, but it is very odd to me how little they have collected during the presale, and what they have been doing with their funds.

Also, how can they be trusted to build a product on blockchain technology, when they do not even know how to build a custom contract to implement with wings in order to have KYC which they stated they will have.

Also, there is no softcap. Why is this bad?
Softcaps, are a way for a project to say, this is the minimum amount of money we need to follow our roadmap, and if we cannot reach this minimum amount, we will return your money to you, as we will not be able to build this product.

Guys, if you have not flagged this project, in my opinion, you are doing a disservice to the blockchain community and the people investing their money into projects of low quality and or that will not be able to have the funds needed to follow thru with their roadmap.

I urge the WINGS community to flag this project, lets help protect investors from low quality ico's

Scam or not, this project is going to be a major flop, IMHO

12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: April 29, 2018, 01:00:44 AM
A long time user of Wings platform who started forecasting shortly after the Stox forecast was complaining on telegram how he has never received a single reward.

Apparently he thought rewards just showed up in your wallet.

Just to make it clear, All rewards have to be manually claimed, even it beta, although in beta rewards will become available immediately after the sale ends, if they used the Wings Constructor, If they use a custom contract you will need to verify that the contract will pay a reward, and if not you'll need to flag it.

A few other points some people are just now realizing, in beta you can forecast on any and all projects with all of your Wings and there is no need to unlock them from one forecast to forecast on another project.


13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: April 15, 2018, 10:34:14 PM
Sad that random forecasters received rewards for WizFund forecasting... Waiting for the remaining payouts.

Why would they be random forecasters? Maybe the ones going with median are the real random forecasters and the ones being right are the ones that did the good research and understand the markets.

There are always some lucky forecasters rewarded and some highly skilled. You can't say it is random just because it is not what you expected. Just analyse and learn for future forecasts.

absolutely right, those going median are random, sometimes I did it just to make a quick forecast but it doesnt pay..
actually I'm waiting rewarrds only for Hacken and Latium because I was crazy close on this one and they should pay high.
1 good forecast covers  many 0 so continue and "try your chance"

Indeed it depend on our luck if we have our day than it will make fortune for us I also have 0 amount in reward but it is part of the game. If someone is lucky than he got good amount in reward even I also very close in some upcoming reward so let's see what happen there.
Maybe because crowdwiz collect 5M usd at the presale and price of eth was near 350, so just with pre-sale estimated sum of eth was more then 14k. Wings community forecasted how much will be collected total (incl. presale), so maybe clever guys like you will show how to calculate the equation  14000+x=6800 (where x more or equal to zero). The forecast wasn't about "Predict how the crowdwiz team will convert this 5M pre-sale funds to eth"

It is much harder to guess how much a token sale will raise, when, at the beginning of the sale, ETH is 350 and at the end of the sale ETH is over 1000
Had ETH stayed at 350 during the campaign, my forecast would have been very very close.

It is what it is though, guess, you have to be able to forecast how much ETH will be worth during the campaign as well, when forecasting how much ETH will be raised.

At any rate, I guess it is good, that unlike, had you made a similar prediction on AUGUR, GNOSIS, OR STOX, you would have lost the tokens you used to make a prediction, at least with WINGS, you don't lose your WINGS if you are wrong, you just get little to no rewards Smiley
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: April 15, 2018, 09:52:27 PM
There is a AirDrop form  on some group., I would like to know if this is from wings official

The airdrop is fake, but you can earn eggs which hatch at the beginning of next year into Wings, also, soon there will be a promotion for liquid delegation.
From what I hear, 1000 people will each have 1000 WINGS delegated to them, and at the end of the contest, 1 person who has the highest FR will get to have 1 Million wings delegated to them for 1 year. Waiting for the announcement to see how it works.

Also, soon, the Wings community gets to vote on things like who gets to have 100K wings delegated to them, i.e. Tim Draper, or?

Lots of exciting things coming!

For now, you can earn yourself some eggs and get rewarded with some Wings next year.

Or, just go ahead and buy some...

My favorite thing about Wings is, whether your forecast is good or not, you never lose your WINGS!

https://blog.wings.ai/wings-community-cares-program-aka-eggs-version-2-0-ca3a4d1935e2

eggs are back!

also you may want to check

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1501228.msg15103625#msg15103625
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: March 14, 2018, 09:42:51 PM
Looking at the rewards claimed so far from QVOLTA, took me an hour to come up with this lol

https://etherscan.io/address/0x627e41794c171d51e9f3def30df33c07e6ff4b54#tokentxns

and then comparing to the forecasts made on wings.ai by searching for the addresses which claimed rewards, here is what I have came up with so far... any reward under 1000QVT i didnt spend the time to look at.

forecasted QVOLTA woud raise:   wings locked in forecast:   QVT Rewarded   USD Price
3500 ETH                                    300                                   5763                    $2,189
3500 ETH                                   2506                                   40343            $15,330
3000 ETH                                   222,222                           83,768            $31,831
5000 ETH                                   25,346                           9,988            $3,795
2950 ETH                                   3408                                   1,275            $484

Most people were too far off to get a reward. For those that did, they were pretty fantastic!

For those who are not aware, how it works, you stake your wings, and forecast how much an project will be able to raise, each project pays to be evaluated, if your forecast is good, you get paid and keep your wings.

If your forecast is bad, you get little to no rewards, but you keep your wings, and can use them to forecast on the next evaluation, and the next, and the next. but, you don't ever lose Wings for being wrong Smiley

I believe that for the project Qvolta correctly forecasters were awarded awards. Indeed, most forecasters were very far from the correct forecast.
I wait for the next awards.
I agree with you, but I think in the very first payments the formula was slightly better than now.
By the way, for which project will the next payment?
I think the formula was similar. Just in the first payments, many forecasters predicted quite accurately. And in the latest forecasts, most were wrong.
I do not know what forecast the next award will be, but the developers promised this week.

Unfortunately the reward formula is a lot different than before.. Now only the people that forecast rrally near earn a lot, and all other people earn zero. I really don't like this formula cause everyone pays for gas and spend time for forecast.
I stopped to forecast and now i m only waiting all old rewards.
Why those forecasters who made a mistake (Qvolta - correct forecast 3850. Why should the award be received by those who put it much higher than this value? Those who put above 8000, 9000, 10000 eth) should receive a reward? But I agree with the fact that in the field of award distribution there is a strong difference between a number of worthwhile predictions.

Cause trying to forecast the exact number is just pure luck. 2000 eth is not different from 12000 if the right forecast was 5/6k.
Also people who forecast 15/20k pay gas, so why not give to anyone a fixed rate airdrop? Doing this no sense formula rewarda,  almost everyone will stop to forecast cause they receive nothing.
You don't have to be exact. The formula is quite complex. But, lets say a project raises 20K eth, most likely everyone who guessed between 10K and 30K will receive a reward. Unless, lets say 95% guessed 20K and the result was 20K, and you guessed 10K, then if you do get a reward, it would be very small, even with alot of wings.

On Qvolta only about 19 people were within 50% lower or 50% higher than the actual result. Basically everyone forecasted 14K eth and they only raised 3800 eth, so everyone was almost 400% off.

sorry if you feel you should be rewarded, maybe next time, everyone else will be lining up their forecasts on a project raising their hardcap, but you, dont think so, and then when your right, and EVERYONE else was 400% off, then you'll have a nice big fat payday like these guys did.

By the way, someone else just claimed a reward for forecasting on Qvolta, and I did some research for you all.

From: 0x8f6b2d...
Expected: 4000 ETH
Wings: 1000 WINGS
Reward: 33,592 QVT
Todays value: $11,948
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: March 09, 2018, 08:55:36 PM
I havent got blackmooncrypto rewards,
is there a spreadsheet to confirm the same
You have to manually claim rewards, they are not sent to your wallet.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: March 09, 2018, 08:53:25 PM
Looking at the rewards claimed so far from QVOLTA, took me an hour to come up with this lol

https://etherscan.io/address/0x627e41794c171d51e9f3def30df33c07e6ff4b54#tokentxns

and then comparing to the forecasts made on wings.ai by searching for the addresses which claimed rewards, here is what I have came up with so far... any reward under 1000QVT i didnt spend the time to look at.

forecasted QVOLTA woud raise:   wings locked in forecast:   QVT Rewarded   USD Price
3500 ETH                                    300                                   5763                    $2,189
3500 ETH                                   2506                                   40343            $15,330
3000 ETH                                   222,222                           83,768            $31,831
5000 ETH                                   25,346                           9,988            $3,795
2950 ETH                                   3408                                   1,275            $484

Most people were too far off to get a reward. For those that did, they were pretty fantastic!

For those who are not aware, how it works, you stake your wings, and forecast how much an project will be able to raise, each project pays to be evaluated, if your forecast is good, you get paid and keep your wings.

If your forecast is bad, you get little to no rewards, but you keep your wings, and can use them to forecast on the next evaluation, and the next, and the next. but, you don't ever lose Wings for being wrong Smiley


Thank you so much for your work. I was curious to know the rewards, but even if you have probably published these data in good faith,  in my opinion these data show how much it is not worth making forecasts on wings platform.
The BEST reward ( the best, means that 1 people on thousands) made little bit higher than 10% earn ( and in this world, it is nothing). Sell wings 2 days ago and buy today would let you earn 20% for example Cheesy

If the numbers given above are correct, the best reward would have earned about 1000% and not 10% o_O

I'm a bit concerned about the disparity of the rewards. If too little people are rewarded, it might turn away many from forecasting.


Sorry, for the best reward i meant the nearest, and the nearest should be this if i'm not wrong, right? "5000 ETH   -   25,346 -   9,988 - $3,795 "
15k$ spent and received 3k$, so my bad, it is 20% ( still not much for the best forecaster). You can't count the first user with 300 wings, cause probably he forecasted at the start with a random number, and would be better to just play Lotto if it is like this Cheesy
I think the closest ones, haven't claimed their award yet. The closest ones should be for the evaluations of 3600 and 4000
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! on: March 08, 2018, 11:44:43 PM
Looking at the rewards claimed so far from QVOLTA, took me an hour to come up with this lol

https://etherscan.io/address/0x627e41794c171d51e9f3def30df33c07e6ff4b54#tokentxns

and then comparing to the forecasts made on wings.ai by searching for the addresses which claimed rewards, here is what I have came up with so far... any reward under 1000QVT i didnt spend the time to look at.

forecasted QVOLTA woud raise:   wings locked in forecast:   QVT Rewarded   USD Price
3500 ETH                                    300                                   5763                    $2,189
3500 ETH                                   2506                                   40343            $15,330
3000 ETH                                   222,222                           83,768            $31,831
5000 ETH                                   25,346                           9,988            $3,795
2950 ETH                                   3408                                   1,275            $484

Most people were too far off to get a reward. For those that did, they were pretty fantastic!

For those who are not aware, how it works, you stake your wings, and forecast how much an project will be able to raise, each project pays to be evaluated, if your forecast is good, you get paid and keep your wings.

If your forecast is bad, you get little to no rewards, but you keep your wings, and can use them to forecast on the next evaluation, and the next, and the next. but, you don't ever lose Wings for being wrong Smiley
19  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [Exchange] Liqui - trade and earn 24 APR on BTC, ETH on: February 27, 2018, 03:42:24 AM
I am self-employed, with four kids, living in a tiny two bedroom shithole. Thanks to crypto, I am ready to rent a bigger home for my family.

However, being self-employed, I need to provide my most recent tax return.

The problem I am facing, is that I am unable to get my full trading history from liqui.io

The API will allow up to 1000 trades to be downloaded at a time.

Using cointracking.info I was able to set up an API and get history of 1000 trades, I have tried everything to try and get the rest, to no avail. I can only get the same 1000 trades each and every time.

I had sent a support ticket back in October 2017 asking the 1000 trade history limit be raised.

After months of no response to my ticket, I was able to find someone who knows how to code and was able to write up a code that was used to access my API and he was successful in obtaining all of my trades up until August 17th 2017, after that he was unable to retrieve any trades, even though my last trade was in November 2017

Now it appears as though the API permissions to access my trading history have been taken away and we are unable to retrieve any trades whatsoever.

I believe the reason is that, when using cointracking.info, they let you make a call to liqui's API one time per hour, however the person I hired for $500 to write the code to retrieve my trading history downloaded 4985 trades in under an hour.

My only thought, is that, the API is now restricted as he was making a call to frequently.

Please help me Liqui, if you have blocked access to my API can you please unblock it, so that I can get the rest of my trading history, file my taxes, and move my family out of this shithole apartment?

The ticket number is #29883

Thank you in advance Smiley

I am offering a bounty of $500 to anyone who can get my trading history from liqui!

For crying out loud! Please liqui - I have been asking you for over 5 months! Surely you have someone in your office who would be willing to lift the ban you have on my API so I can get the rest of my trades, or if not, at lease send me a file or something!

The ticket number is #29883

If you work there, and see this, please help, I will pay $250 if all you do is unban my API long enough for me to get my trading history, or I will pay $500 if you send me my complete trading history in a .csv file.
Still waiting for a reply to my ticket, almost going for 6 months now, never one response to my ticket.

In my opinion this is the worst exchange in the world if you ever need customer support.
20  Economy / Exchanges / Re: [Exchange] Liqui - trade and earn 24 APR on BTC, ETH on: February 16, 2018, 02:00:18 AM
I am self-employed, with four kids, living in a tiny two bedroom shithole. Thanks to crypto, I am ready to rent a bigger home for my family.

However, being self-employed, I need to provide my most recent tax return.

The problem I am facing, is that I am unable to get my full trading history from liqui.io

The API will allow up to 1000 trades to be downloaded at a time.

Using cointracking.info I was able to set up an API and get history of 1000 trades, I have tried everything to try and get the rest, to no avail. I can only get the same 1000 trades each and every time.

I had sent a support ticket back in October 2017 asking the 1000 trade history limit be raised.

After months of no response to my ticket, I was able to find someone who knows how to code and was able to write up a code that was used to access my API and he was successful in obtaining all of my trades up until August 17th 2017, after that he was unable to retrieve any trades, even though my last trade was in November 2017

Now it appears as though the API permissions to access my trading history have been taken away and we are unable to retrieve any trades whatsoever.

I believe the reason is that, when using cointracking.info, they let you make a call to liqui's API one time per hour, however the person I hired for $500 to write the code to retrieve my trading history downloaded 4985 trades in under an hour.

My only thought, is that, the API is now restricted as he was making a call to frequently.

Please help me Liqui, if you have blocked access to my API can you please unblock it, so that I can get the rest of my trading history, file my taxes, and move my family out of this shithole apartment?

The ticket number is #29883

Thank you in advance Smiley

I am offering a bounty of $500 to anyone who can get my trading history from liqui!

For crying out loud! Please liqui - I have been asking you for over 5 months! Surely you have someone in your office who would be willing to lift the ban you have on my API so I can get the rest of my trades, or if not, at lease send me a file or something!

The ticket number is #29883

If you work there, and see this, please help, I will pay $250 if all you do is unban my API long enough for me to get my trading history, or I will pay $500 if you send me my complete trading history in a .csv file.
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