Actually, I was mining with more than 51℅ of p2pool, that is correct, but that does not constitute an attack as no ill will was done. Had I used the "/" parameter as you say I should have, and had I set it lower than it should have been related to my hashpower, then it would have been a 51℅ attack. Why don't you read up on it a little bit Kano. https://learncryptography.com/cryptocurrency/51-attackAnd furthermore anyone can withold blocks from any pool. |
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Kano, you still never answered the question about what you did with the mining rewards you witheld from the miner on your pool that allegedly stole 10BTC from someone else.
Did you give the rewards to the person who was stolen from or did you keep it for yourself?
To sum it up, you've only stolen from other people who have been accused of stealing. Not from people who haven't solved a block when you think they should have. Your just giving warning that you will do so when and if you feel like it. Is that correct or am I still misunderstanding you. Please translate your jibberish.
And I wouldn't say this thread is useless, it's opened my eyes as to why I would never mine on your pool Kano.is
It's pool operators like you who make p2pool so much more appealing. No pool operator gets to decide who deserves to be paid for their work as anyone can be in control of their own node and not have to worry about the operator witholding payments to them.
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Im riding on the back of your rentals. As you kick up the hash rate we seem to find a block quicker. By me adding around 40 / 50 th to my node as rentals, gives me a very cushy payout. Feel like im using you some how but hey ho whatever works and earns some coins.  let's hope so Looks like I am getting outbid on westhash, going to bump down to 900THs to let other people rent some hash. One thing I've noticed is you can rent large amounts of hash for shorter periods at reasonable prices, but when you do it for an extended amount of time it makes people angry and they'll be willing to pay sometimes 150℅ of expected rewards to try and make you raise your bid knowing you'll eventually give up and let them continue renting at prices below expected returns. |
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Kano, how can I name who you withheld payments from when you never specified who you did it to, only that you did on page two of this thread. Out of curiosity Robinhood, what did you do with his mining rewards you witheld from the person you mentioned? Sigh, so the issue is that you still don't understand the simple basic fact about mining. Each hash is pseudo-random and effectively unrelated to the previous due to the sha256 hash. Doesn't matter what address you use or what colour underwear you wear. There's no known 'other' calculation that will pre-determine the expected result of one hash from the previous. That's why block finding is called 'luck'. It follows the well known poisson distribution. Here - learn something that you clearly do not understand (about luck) here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Poisson_distributionIf you had an address that hit the statistical figure matching expected withholding (that you clearly have no idea even what that is) and you actually weren't withholding, then the next hash could find a block. Just as likely as any other hash, no matter what address was being used or what was in the coinbase. They have no predetermined expected result. None. Zero. Nada. You can look using hind-sight and see what happened, but even that will have ZERO effect on the future. Withholding is unrelated to that. What matters on my pool, is that the miners aren't ripped off ... like slush did. If someone mines and reaches any of the statistical bad luck limits I set, I will do something about that. e.g. withhold payouts, block their mining, contact them etc ... in fact I contact them well before that as I have on a number of occasions. No I wont blindly let the miners on my pool get ripped off as you are suggesting I should. As for segwit - well firstly it may never happen - damn shame  Secondly, no I wont be using -ck's changes (that are not public so I haven't even seen them) if segwit ever activates, I'll be doing them myself - oh dear |
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Bumped up my orders again to 3PH before I go to sleep for the night. Will reevaluate whether to bump back down or not when I wake up, depending on whether I get outbid or not on westhash. Going all or nothing for the moment, although this could change at any time. Mine on p2pool right now! Let's find a block before Kano.is pool does lol We are currently at around 50℅ on p2pool and Kano is around 77℅ and he has about ten times the hashpower that p2pool does currently so his pool should find about 10 blocks before p2pool does, but I'm willing to bet it won't... Find a node near you! http://poolnode.infoOr point your miners toward my node: stratum+tcp://:72.5.73.193:9333 Username: yourBTCaddress Password:x The nice thing is, if I am unlucky finding a block myself, but someone else finds a block I will be rewarded for my shares, unlike some pool operators like Kano, who has withheld payments from miners who he decides shouldn't deserve a reward because he thinks they should have solved a block based on the amount of shares they submitted. Yet he openly admits that there is no expectations on finding a block after x amount of shares... Boy would I hate to be a large miner on his pool on a bad luck run. |
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Thanks for the link Kano  Anyone have any knowledge of somewhere where a person could find out p2pools average luck over more than just the last 30 days? You can't - even for 30 days - coz p2pool has inbuilt higher share loss that has to be accounted for since there's the 'hidden' extra blocks that come from 95% of that share loss. No one includes it in their luck calculations so you can't actually find a valid luck report for p2pool anywhere. pleeeeeeze!!! 95℅ of the blocks that are found are from the average of 15℅ stale/d.o.a. shares!?! Lol, that's pretty funny! Tell me another joke, I just can't get enough of your humor R.O.L.M.A.O. Thinking I'm going to increase my stale/dead shares and find me some blocks! Stale shares find valid bitcoin blocks on p2pool. If you use miners that discard stale shares and don't send them to your p2pool, you are literally throwing away blocks. 95% of stale p2pool shares are valid "bitcoin shares" so if they are a block and you don't send them out onto the bitcoin network, then you are throwing away valid bitcoin blocks. P2pool code does this - once we pointed it out to forrestv long ago Maybe you should read up a little about how p2pool works ... or maybe you should say it right the first time... Instead of trying to mislead people! And when did I say that I discard stale shares?  |
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Thanks for the link Kano Anyone have any knowledge of somewhere where a person could find out p2pools average luck over more than just the last 30 days? You can't - even for 30 days - coz p2pool has inbuilt higher share loss that has to be accounted for since there's the 'hidden' extra blocks that come from 95% of that share loss. No one includes it in their luck calculations so you can't actually find a valid luck report for p2pool anywhere. pleeeeeeze!!! 95℅ of the blocks that are found are from the average of 15℅ stale/d.o.a. shares!?! Lol, that's pretty funny! Tell me another joke, I just can't get enough of your humor R.O.L.M.A.O. Thinking I'm going to increase my stale/dead shares and find me some blocks! |
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Thanks for the link Kano Anyone have any knowledge of somewhere where a person could find out p2pools average luck over more than just the last 30 days? |
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So essentially most if not all pools produce blocks that are not always full, not just p2pool  You can't say all, but otherwise that's correct, except that the average from most pools is much larger than p2pool. Here's a block size summary, no idea why p2pool isn't included: http://data.bitcoinity.org/bitcoin/blocksize/6m?t=lI wish it was included, i would love to see where it falls compared to other pools, and I congratulate you for having the highest average Blocksize on your solo pool, which I love by the way! Nothing beats the excitement of finding a block via solomining!!! |
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If only you could always time it like that!
Dare I call it luck? LMAO, I would say it was lucky that you started your rentals when you did and that they ended when they did, and I'd also say it was lucky that I tripled my hashpower three days before as well, but I'm half terrified of the backlash I might get if I try and say that had any effect on my luck or yours. I dunno, kinda like "The Mining Games," in which case "Happy mining. And may the odds be ever in your favor." I hope so! I'm hoping for a long run of lucky blocks coming our way, yet I'm scaling back down to around 450TH for a little while. Seems like whenever I get too greedy the block gods withhold them from me to make me realize I'm just a mortal. This last week was pretty scary! Luckily it turned around and I actually came out alive. It was scary but then randomly everything just went sweet at just the right time for me. Me too |
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This last week was pretty scary! Luckily it turned around and I actually came out alive.
It was indeed a pleasant surprise to see two blocks/deposits pop up so close together after an almost 10-day stretch with no block(s). Hopefully it's back to "normal luck" of 100% plus or minus a little blocks, but with nice fat transaction fees in the blocks... I have this node set for maxblocksize=970000 Hoping for fat transaction fees as well! I set aside enough to mine with 450TH for a little over 8 days, crossing my fingers I think this should give a good salary, not ? I hope so |
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So they consciously blacklist or set lower or use some other workaround to try and speed up their block changes. Doesn't mean there aren't transactions to put in there if they allowed it to. See here: https://statoshi.info/dashboard/db/transactionsSo essentially most if not all pools produce blocks that are not always full, not just p2pool |
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I noticed myself some small blocks and some larger blocks, but that can also be attributed by the amount of time it took p2pool to find a block since the previous block was found, could it not?
Although my node is set at 970k doesnt mean that I will fill that block if I find it shortly after the previous block is found.
No, there hasn't been a time in the last 18 months where it wouldn't be full no matter how close together the blocks were unless you manually set it lower or were consciously blacklisting transactions. Unfortunately in p2pool the burden of validating and propagating blocks falls on the miner who finds the block and the size and latency of their own node then matters instead of at a regular pool. what about these from today? https://blockchain.info/block-height/448412https://blockchain.info/block-height/448411https://blockchain.info/block-height/448410https://blockchain.info/block-height/448406This is just a few from the first page I looked at of the most recent blocks, and from some of the largest pools. |
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This last week was pretty scary! Luckily it turned around and I actually came out alive.
It was indeed a pleasant surprise to see two blocks/deposits pop up so close together after an almost 10-day stretch with no block(s). Hopefully it's back to "normal luck" of 100% plus or minus a little blocks, but with nice fat transaction fees in the blocks... I have this node set for maxblocksize=970000 Hoping for fat transaction fees as well! I set aside enough to mine with 450TH for a little over 8 days, crossing my fingers Unfortunately you only decide the size of the blocks your node makes. P2Pool history shows a very low decentralised average block size so average tx fees are expected to be low also. what is the average blocksize of p2pool? Anyone know? Would be curious if anyone has any info on that over a specified time span. I noticed myself some small blocks and some larger blocks, but that can also be attributed by the amount of time it took p2pool to find a block since the previous block was found, could it not? Although my node is set at 970k doesnt mean that I will fill that block if I find it shortly after the previous block is found. |
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This last week was pretty scary! Luckily it turned around and I actually came out alive.
It was indeed a pleasant surprise to see two blocks/deposits pop up so close together after an almost 10-day stretch with no block(s). Hopefully it's back to "normal luck" of 100% plus or minus a little blocks, but with nice fat transaction fees in the blocks... I have this node set for maxblocksize=970000 Hoping for fat transaction fees as well! I set aside enough to mine with 450TH for a little over 8 days, crossing my fingers |
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If only you could always time it like that!
Dare I call it luck? LMAO, I would say it was lucky that you started your rentals when you did and that they ended when they did, and I'd also say it was lucky that I tripled my hashpower three days before as well, but I'm half terrified of the backlash I might get if I try and say that had any effect on my luck or yours. I dunno, kinda like "The Mining Games," in which case "Happy mining. And may the odds be ever in your favor." I hope so! I'm hoping for a long run of lucky blocks coming our way, yet I'm scaling back down to around 450TH for a little while. Seems like whenever I get too greedy the block gods withhold them from me to make me realize I'm just a mortal. This last week was pretty scary! Luckily it turned around and I actually came out alive. |
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If only you could always time it like that!
Dare I call it luck? LMAO, I would say it was lucky that you started your rentals when you did and that they ended when they did, and I'd also say it was lucky that I tripled my hashpower three days before as well, but I'm half terrified of the backlash I might get if I try and say that had any effect on my luck or yours. |
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If only you could always time it like that!
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