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321  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S17 Pro-50 high temp in Turbo on: September 25, 2019, 08:31:51 PM
Thanks for the input.  I'll look into re-engineering my exhaust systems
322  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Pool hopping..... yea or nay? on: September 25, 2019, 08:29:26 PM
In short it's not worth it but you might feel better about the situation as you've done something to mitigate the issue. Purely psychological in this case as your friend is reacting to what has already happened, It's like sandbagging your house for flooding after the water reaches your doorstep.
Now if your buddy were trying to gamble and game the situation, by watching the block stats and trying to guess when those 12 hour windows of no blocks will be then he could be said to maybe do better. It would be marginal though. His biggest issue is that once you leave slush, you then ramp down and when they do find a block or their next set of 5 you receive nothing. Miners just have to accept that you will have blocks that take 5,10,15 times longer than expected.

I also consider myself very much a set it and forget it guy. It is good to evaluate your situation every now and then though.

Thanks for your valued opinion. That also goes to others who have responded. 

As I'm in the long game.... i figured I'd keep it simple.  Run 30 days on slush.  Run 30 days on btc.com.  See if there's that much of a payout/earning difference during that time frame (after I take difficulty increase into acct).   There's gotta be a reason more miners operate on btc.com than slush.    If there's a notable difference, I'll stay with the better payer.  If the difference is negligible, I'll go with the easiest to use/understand interface.
323  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Pool hopping..... yea or nay? on: September 23, 2019, 05:57:02 PM
Friend of mine and I both started mining btc about the same time and speak daily.

He's got more of an electronics brain, and mine is more electrical. So, I'm not great with the technicals, where he is.

We both started mining on Slushpool.  Everything's going fine for me.  I'm in a nice Ron Popeil, set it and forget it, mindset. (You might have to google that if you're under 40yo).

 Buddy opened an acct with btc.com and has been hoping back n forth.

I know there's different payout methods, and I'll admit, figuring them out is probably beyond my stone-age comprehension level.

Today my friend says.... "Screw this, Slushpool is taking forever to find blocks, I'm jumping over to btc.com"

So my question to the experienced miners...... 1.) is my buddy taking advantage and getting better payouts by jumping back and forth? 2.) is there a 'mining payout for dummies' explanation that will help me decide if I should stay with Slush or move elsewhere?

I haven't seen my estimated daily payout drop except for when difficulty rises.

(Note:  I'm running about 120TH avg now, will be 160-170 in November)
324  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S17 Pro-50 high temp in Turbo on: September 22, 2019, 12:12:20 AM
Ambient temperature is not everything, but the fact that you running your miner in a 12 degree Celsius and a chip on that miner gets to 86 Celsius it only means that you have poor cooling , it's either the miner's fan run on very low rpm , or you are just not getting rid of the hot air fast enough.

For starters, set the fans at high rpm , 90% is good if noise is not an issue, also please tell us more about the cooling , where does the hot air that get's blown out the miner goes to? how clean is the miner's heatsinks ? if your garage is full of dust and the miner manages to take all that inside but never exhaust it, then even running the miner in 0 ambient can't make it run cool enough.

Good point.  I bought the unit used, and I should probably give it a thorough cleaning just in case. I have an exhaust shroud on the back to a 6" duct, which vents directly outside.  I could adjust its location to make the duct run shorter with less bends.
325  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: S17 Pro-50 high temp in Turbo on: September 21, 2019, 09:49:57 PM
This is new miner is not the same as old Bitmain miner which can reach 135 Chips, max temp.
Like the above said if you stay running the miner at full speed(Turbo mode) it will end up damage your hashboard. The high temp can be reduced the life span of the miner unless if you are running it in a cold place.

If your garage hit 55 degrees it is too hot not good to run the miner at turbo mode.

Check this list of "Miner normal operating temperature range"

Sorry. Forgot international viewers were here as well.  Ambient temps were listed in Fahrenheit.  OP edited to reflect
326  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 21, 2019, 08:54:02 PM
I'm also kind of dancing a fine line.  I had a 250' roll of 12/3 on hand already, so I wanted to use that rather than spend more money on more wire.
My run is only maybe 10-12'.

12ga is safe up to 20A, but they recommend only using 80% of that capacity. So 16A.
I ran two circuits, 3 outlets per circuit.

Per Bitmain site, the S17 56th (pro-53 a little less) uses 2520 watts in normal mode.  2520 watts at 240v is 10.5A. So, 5.25A per cord.

So, in my case, i can run 3 S17's, plugging into those 6 outlets, putting 15.75A thru each circuit.

I'm running out of space in my breaker box at this point, so if I decide to add more miners, I either have to wire up a sub-panel for miners, or consolidate some of the 15A 120v circuits with tandem breakers.

BUT, now I ordered the S17e, think we're looking at 2880w (12A)....... I might be swapping out to 10ga wire.

Currently running (1) S17 56th, (1) S17 Pro 50th, and (1) S9i....   when the S17e arrives in November, the S9 will be sold on eBay.
Depending how the near future plays out, I'm considering expanding a bit and running up to (5) S17's
327  Bitcoin / Mining support / S17 Pro-50 high temp in Turbo on: September 21, 2019, 08:40:43 PM
Have a Pro-50, runs just peachy in normal mode. Highest chip temp around 80 normally.

Started cooling off up here in the northeast, ambient 50F degrees overnight. So I decided to test out turbo mode.
Threw it into turbo, was running just fine overnight and this morning, highest chip temp 86, maybe 88. Ambient in the garage was about 55-60F

3pm, we hit 80F degrees outside, guessing garage about 75F.  Miner chip temp jacks to 105 and shuts down.

Guessing I should just stop pressing my luck and leave it in normal.
328  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 19, 2019, 09:48:47 PM
Iirc, 10ga is good for up to 30A, and they recommend only running a steady load of 80% of max capable amps...  so you'd be good for 24A steady load on that entire circuit.
329  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 19, 2019, 07:53:40 PM
Also need to know what gauge wire runs those circuits.  Some people don't always wire to code. (Me for example). 

I only have an 8' run from the breaker box, which eases resistance, so i was able to run 12ga wire which I had laying around, to 3 outlets per circuit, two circuits.   So I can pull a constant 16amps per circuit safely, with no worries, and still be 'technically ok' to 20a.   So I can run 3 units.  Anymore and my wire run the risk of glowing.

But, knowing we have a Y-plug available, if I run more circuits in the future, I can wire less outlets to a circuit. And that's where I get my fingers chewed up.
330  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 19, 2019, 07:21:26 PM
Just be careful with your calculations.  Although you can double the units with the Y splitter, you'll also double the amps pulled on the electrical circuit.  And depending on wire gauge of that circuit, could be an issue.
In my case, I'm maxed on circuit amperage for the circuits I have run.  To expand my operation would require running a few more circuits, which will require a lot more breaker box work.
331  Other / Off-topic / Re: Favourite Tv series? on: September 18, 2019, 06:46:27 AM
House of cards

Loved that, until the last season when they went off into a feminist left field
332  Other / Off-topic / Re: Favourite Tv series? on: September 18, 2019, 05:04:45 AM
The fall guy
Rockford files
Simon and Simon
Hogan's Heroes
333  Other / Politics & Society / Re: "Drone Attack That Crippled Largest Saudi Oil Processing Facility" on: September 17, 2019, 10:02:46 PM
Made a nice profit on oil stocks.

Ready for the next news/crisis I can profit from
334  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Too much tech in schools with no benefit, researchers agree. on: September 15, 2019, 06:08:46 PM
The world's changed. People have all humanity's knowledge in their pockets.

School has been memorization of facts for a long while. Teaching kids to find and trust credible sources makes sense.

I'm in favor of a federal one to one program that allows each child to have a Internet connected device for continuing education.

Ive always said..... everyone over the age of 12 has the answer to all of the worlds questions in their pockets, by way of the smart phone. And what do they do with it?  Take pictures of their dicks.
335  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We are living in the best period known to man! on: September 15, 2019, 09:31:37 AM
Want to see another one?

Dig up stats on police shootings and police use of force.

The media will have you believe that American policing is nothing but racist thugs shooting everyone.
But the statistics will prove to you that police involved shootings and use of force has been steadily declining for 50 years


Here's NYPD
https://images.app.goo.gl/oon2XAzL2ix78PzM8

And of course, the point is, that police are thugs, and that lately, because of all the Internet communications, and because of all the police brutality websites, cops are becoming more and more scared to do their thuggery.

So, it isn't that cops ware becoming honest, or are becoming noble. Rather, its that their hand is being called.


Cities hire cops. If the cities really wanted to get rid of the bad element among them, they would arm everyone. But the city leaders want to dominate their citizens. So they hire cops... who step over the limits a bit sometimes. If the city leaders wanted fair play, they would arm the citizens and fire the cops.

Cool

No, the point is exactly what the statistics show, regardless of your skewed mentality

And according to you, you essentially said that police are thugs, even though their thuggery is declining, without stating it out directly point blank. See the highlighted area above. What I said simply expresses what you said in more detail.

If you didn't mean that, don't you think you should say what you mean?

Cool

You, again, have a piss poor reading comprehension grade.   

"The media will have you believe......"  is not 'me essentially saying'

My post was very clear,  point / counter-point
Media tells you one thing / facts state another.
336  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We are living in the best period known to man! on: September 15, 2019, 12:58:54 AM
Want to see another one?

Dig up stats on police shootings and police use of force.

The media will have you believe that American policing is nothing but racist thugs shooting everyone.
But the statistics will prove to you that police involved shootings and use of force has been steadily declining for 50 years

Here's NYPD
https://images.app.goo.gl/oon2XAzL2ix78PzM8

And of course, the point is, that police are thugs, and that lately, because of all the Internet communications, and because of all the police brutality websites, cops are becoming more and more scared to do their thuggery.

So, it isn't that cops ware becoming honest, or are becoming noble. Rather, its that their hand is being called.


Cities hire cops. If the cities really wanted to get rid of the bad element among them, they would arm everyone. But the city leaders want to dominate their citizens. So they hire cops... who step over the limits a bit sometimes. If the city leaders wanted fair play, they would arm the citizens and fire the cops.

Cool

No, the point is exactly what the statistics show, regardless of your skewed mentality
337  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump is the worst thing to happen to Puerto Rico on: September 15, 2019, 12:57:23 AM
I know this post is gonna trigger all of you. trump shills and PETA libs alike but its gotta be said.
Donald Trump AND the libs are the worst thing to happen to puerto rico. Im not talking bout the hurricane here either.

The 2018 FARM BILL, which the libs pushed and Donald Trump signed into law made cockfighting illegal. All the libs in here
are thinking great because theyve never actually been to a cockfight and dont know what it intails. Ill tell you.
Cockfighting has been going on for thousands of years. Our ancestors were raising cocks since the Romans were fighting in coliseums.
Its a cultural tradition that is far older than any other sport, even baseball and basketball and football.

If you were a chicken would you rather spend your entire life in a cage where you cant even turn around and then get slaughtered and put in some mcnuggets?
Or do you want to be raised and trained with love and care allowed to wander free around a farm and die in a glorious battle after several years? For me Id rather
be the fighter.



Thousands of Puerto Ricans both on the island and the mainland were training gamecocks. We have over 100 clubs and a booming industry and all of a sudden Donald Trump criminalized all these peoples livelihood. Cockfighting was a $100M industry on Puerto Rico. Fuck donald trump and fuck the libs.

When Government makes laws about something, they make definitions. If the term "cockfight" or "cockfighting" is defined in the Government law, Government can only do something when their terms applie. The thing to do is form a Private Membership Association (PMA). This is where people sign up for something that they are doing privately, not in the public where Government controls things.

Current major PMAs are formed for legal and medical groups. Because it is private and not public, these groups are exempt from much of the legal harassment that normally comes from Government. In legal PMAs, all kinds of people can advise other people about legal matters without being charged with giving legal advice. In medical PMAs, all kinds of people can do medical procedures on others, and medical professionals can do un-approved medical procedures on others without the threat of losing their license.

Form a cock-fighting PMA. Everyone who wants to join in the fun has to sign up to the PMA to get in, and Government is not allowed in, because their legal terms don't fit what is being done in private. So, it isn't cock fighting to Government, even though everyone inside the PMA calls it cock-fighting.

Check out here https://duckduckgo.com/?q=private+membership+association&t=h_&ia=web and here https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=private+membership+association for an overview of what's going on.

Cool

 Oh cool so we can form a PMA for prostitution, kiddie porn, and drug dens ?
338  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump is the worst thing to happen to Puerto Rico on: September 14, 2019, 10:25:02 PM
Yeah, you're right. It was a terrible analogy.

I should've said something like..... you should've known this was coming, find a new line of work.
339  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: S17e 64ths for sale Price 2500$ (shipping included with Escrow) on: September 14, 2019, 08:23:27 PM
You people are fucktards  OMG!!! LOL Whaaaaaaaat? haha   Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin Grin

So im saying i will never ask any kind of money or shipping fees or any kind of fucking money and somehow you fucktards trying to make this like a scam  WOOOOOOOOW  ahahhaha i feeel sorry for you fat nerds

Again if anyone interested email me at braucryptocoin@orange.fr
;
Amazing

What a salesman !
340  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Donald Trump is the worst thing to happen to Puerto Rico on: September 14, 2019, 08:01:52 PM
Opium has been used for thousands of years.
Govt control of the opium market has put many poppy farmers out of business.

Shame, right?
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