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341  Other / Politics & Society / Re: We are living in the best period known to man! on: September 14, 2019, 07:54:28 PM
Want to see another one?

Dig up stats on police shootings and police use of force.

The media will have you believe that American policing is nothing but racist thugs shooting everyone.
But the statistics will prove to you that police involved shootings and use of force has been steadily declining for 50 years

Here's NYPD
https://images.app.goo.gl/oon2XAzL2ix78PzM8
342  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: S17e 64ths for sale Price 2500$ (shipping included with Escrow) on: September 14, 2019, 07:49:16 PM

Not saying the scam is this thread, but lately, scammers offering escrow do so for a few well know bitcointalk members...then...others say, hell, if

they are on board, when asked, they waive escrow....the original well know bitcointalk members also don't get the devices but do get their BTC back

via escrow and pay the modest fee...so not out anything. rinse/wash/repeat

just keep this in mind if you see folk do escrow through any sales thread...follow through on such and don't be talked out of such...at worst you will

not get the item and get all your BTC back minus the escrow fee

just a word of caution seen this scam on the altcoins thread and other places on bitcointalk

so ..again..just follow through on escrow on anything you buy on bitcointalk IMHO. Don't be talked out of it.

Also, PayPal CAN BE reversed, so don't assume that works either if they offer it as an alternative

later

brad

edit: that said, using escrow on this purchase thread hopefully will get you the items the OP mentioned and all is just dandy here. Not a slam of the OP.

Just folks should be aware.


Same thing happened in another thread.  The guy offering 25% discount on Bitmain products.  Well known member took the deal and did escrow. Then when I responded, poster said he was unable to front the money, and I should just "trust" him.    
   Escrow deal fell thru, no one else took the bait.

So, I offered him oceanfront property in Colorado
343  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: S17e 64ths for sale Price 2500$ (shipping included with Escrow) on: September 14, 2019, 02:46:55 PM
Sounds very suspicious. There is no way he would have one in stock and the price is too low.

Agreed,  thats why i asked what I did.

Thank you for your input.

If anyone interested pm at my email cause i'm limites here with pms, I will use any trusted escrow from the bitcointalk list so no need for spam i will NEVER ask you or anyone else for any money upfront  thank you.


Please answer here in the thread..... How did you obtain an S17e already ?
344  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: S17e 64ths for sale Price 2500$ (shipping included with Escrow) on: September 14, 2019, 01:15:41 PM
Sounds very suspicious. There is no way he would have one in stock and the price is too low.

Agreed,  thats why i asked what I did.

Thank you for your input.
345  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: S17e 64ths for sale Price 2500$ (shipping included with Escrow) on: September 14, 2019, 12:32:45 PM
Sounds like a deal.  Do you have the unit in hand?  Thought they hadn't shipped out of China yet?  Why are you selling?
346  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Varispin Solar starting advertising of a new miner.... 48TH-3000W on: September 13, 2019, 07:12:28 PM
I never got a response when emailing their "info@" address.   Miner friend of mine called and spoke to Mr Scott, and we've communicated previously via this email address.......   robdscott@varispin.com

I've probably exchanged 4-5 emails with Rob. I am under the belief that he's back n forth to China often as part of his job.

Here's a copy n paste of one of his responses to me when I inquired about the Starlight unit, after they had to cancel their S17 pro orders:

Quote
Jeff,

How are you? Yeah sorry for the whole Bitmain fiasco. Good things we have our Starlite miner coming in. We still have around 50 or so units for Sept 15-25th delivery schedule from my factory in China.

Please visit the website www.varispin.com and click on crypto miners to see the specs. We just did an amazing software upgrade and are now hitting 53TH with the machine. This is amazing and we should sell out quickly.

Thank you for your interest.

Robert Douglas Scott

MIAMI OFFICE: 2000 Ponce De Leon Suite 500 -Coral Gables, FL 33134
CHINA OFFICE: 公司地址:深圳市南山区科技南八路2号豪威科技大厦21楼2101室
Main-754-888-3328
www.varispin.com
347  Other / Politics & Society / Re: The Democrats Have no Credible Candidate Yet on: September 13, 2019, 11:30:39 AM
How many puppets can you put on the same stage, offering "free" stuff.
348  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: September 12, 2019, 11:41:36 PM
Went right over your head
349  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: September 12, 2019, 08:24:55 PM
The device normally known as a gun is not a gun when it becomes my property. What does it become, then? It becomes "property." Why? Because I said so.

If government says that it is a gun, what ownership do they have vested in my property? Show me the government ownership paperwork. I can show my property ownership paperwork.

If the government continues to call my property a gun (or firearm), they are threatening trespass on my property. If they actively mess with me or my property, they are trespassers and wrongdoers... except, of course, if I have formally directly threatened someone or actually harmed someone.

I will sue anyone who messes with my property without my authorization. I don't need any stinkin' Second Amendment regarding my property, even though it looks like a gun, smells like a gun, and shoots like a gun. It isn't a gun. It's my property.

Property rights are greater than gun rights. Property rights are greater than firearm designations. Property rights are the basis for all rights.

Cool

Yeah, rumor has it.... if you get arrested for unlawfully carrying a firearm or possession of drugs, you can just tell the cops or judge that the gun wasn't a firearm, the heroin wasn't drugs, it was personal property....  and they're all like "my bad, you can go, sorry"

 Undecided
350  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: September 12, 2019, 05:28:47 PM
"Gun Control" will not work. Period.
Let's say you manage to abolish the Second Amendment and outlaw all guns. Guns are now illegal.
You think that will work?

Look how well it's worked for drugs.

Gun laws only affect the people who follow the law.

Why dont we just make murder illegal, then no one will shoot anyone.

351  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 12, 2019, 04:42:19 PM
@philipma1957

Do you think the T17 38Th/s for 1145USD is a good price?

I think it is.  Considering they sell for $3000-4000 on eBay or Amazon.
Efficiency is not quite as good as an S17, but the ROI would be quicker.

If you have the physical set-up for them (enough power, exhaust set-up), you can buy 2 T17's for 80 TH, for less than one S17 at 60-64TH
352  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Too much tech in schools with no benefit, researchers agree. on: September 12, 2019, 03:40:18 PM
I may have an old school mentality on this subject, due to my age.

I think the public education system should teach/familiarize kids with today's technology, but there's no reason EVERY child in the school district should have a laptop provided by the school. The only thing it's doing is costing the taxpayers.

I grew up with chalkboards, overhead projectors, pen and paper, no a/c in the classroom.  We had typing classes on "fancy" typewriters. Computers were introduced later in my education by way of a "computer lab", or one classroom full of desktop computer.  Some new-fangled tech like the Commodore 64.

We all turned out just fine, and probably more level-headed than today's youth.

I graduated High School, chose the military over college, and consider myself above middle class with a 6 figure salary.

I do lack technical expertise, but know how to use computers and programs, and do so when needed.
( but I still cant get the clock on my VCR to stop flashing 12:00) Wink
353  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: WTB- one S17 on: September 12, 2019, 03:27:35 PM
Thread can be deleted.  I have one ordered already
354  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Varispin Solar starting advertising of a new miner.... 48TH-3000W on: September 11, 2019, 02:54:07 PM
Yes, US office in Miami.
I've emailed the rep a few times. Shipment expected mid-sept.

And they're supposedly a real company, so I was able to purchase on a credit card.....  so, easy resolution if they are not legit
355  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 11, 2019, 02:04:51 PM
Not 100% sure yet.  I also ordered a unit from Varispin Tech to try out.  48-53Th @3000w.  That should arrive this month.  Wasn't thrilled with the efficiency, but it was better than two s9's, and at the time of order, it was easier to buy than anything on eBay (scams), (and I didnt have enough btc in my wallet to order from Bitmain yet).

In short, I have 6plugs.   Currently running one s17 56th, one s17 pro 50, and one s9i.
On order, one Varispin Starlight miner (sept), one S17e (nov).
356  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 11, 2019, 01:22:08 PM
I got one S17e for Nov shipment.

Although I like the price of the T17's, I'm trying to maximize TH for my home set-up, at the best efficiency, in the least number of units.

My physical set-up can handle 3 units in regards to power supply and heat exhaust.  To run any more than 3 units, I'd have to do more electrical work, adding a sub panel, etc... and getting exhaust ducts out is kind of a pain, so really dont want to do any more.

And I should be able to sell my current units on eBay for the same price I pay for a new one from Bitmain.
Once this arrives and I sell the pro-50, I'll look at swapping out the next unit.
357  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 11, 2019, 12:22:40 PM
The shipping company should be contacting you concerning that - both times I had to pay, I was contacted by DHL - both times were for about 300 worth of fees. The first one was on about 8k worth of miners and the second time was for one miner that was 1400.

the rest of the miners I bought were under 1k each and I paid no fees for those. yet...

still debating on whether to order another T17 for 1145, shipped will be about 1300 and with tariff it will be close to 1650. and for a unit that wont be here till December.

Thank you.
358  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Bitmain to release S17E 64TH on: September 11, 2019, 11:37:50 AM
The Antminer S17e and T17e will be released in three batches and will be available for sale on Bitmainís official website according to the following timings...

Thanks for the heads-up.

My email showed up overnight.
And, began refreshing the Bitmain page at 7am my time, and the S17e's came available again.

So I placed my first ever order with them, and completed my first ever payment for an item with btc.
Broke that cherry.

Now, my only remaining question is...... how do I handle the import/customs issue?  Ive never done that before, but have til Nov to figure it out.  I know I'll have to drop another $700 tariff fee. But what do I do from here for the customs part?
Any help/guidance will be greatly appreciated.
359  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [US Only] Legalization of the sex trade? on: September 11, 2019, 12:29:39 AM
Missed the point again, it does not use the word "may", it does not even define "others", thats the whole point.  All its saying is that its a disclaimer, in other words, we've defined these, but just because we defined these doesnt mean these are the only ones you have. 

The few Traffic related offenses which are considered criminal, are called criminal offenses and are handled by the courts as criminal offenses, not traffic offenses. 

Thats why I used the words I did.

Definitions mean a lot in legal speak. 
360  Other / Politics & Society / Re: [US Only] Legalization of the sex trade? on: September 10, 2019, 11:53:15 PM

I think I see the issue here.  You got your law degree from Google, and believe the US Constitution is the only applicable law.

How does your state apply the wording of "criminal prosecutions" stated in the US Constitution to a traffic violation?

I cant speak for the other 49 states, but there's one that I'm quite familiar with.  In my state, Title 234 is the Rules of Criminal Procedure, and outlines how prosecutions and investigation are to be handled depending on the grading of the offense. Is a Summary traffic offense handled in the courts the same as a Felony Assault?  Nope.  
     At the Summary level, the local District Judge is the "finder of fact" and makes the ruling. The citing officer acts as prosecutor. The defendant can appeal the ruling to the State Court, but in that appeal, the Commonwealth Judge is the ultimate finder of fact.
   Misdemeanor and Felony graded offenses operate quite differently.

I get that you read the US Constitution.  I might also suggest you spend some time researching how the US Constitution integrates to individual state laws.

If the US Constitution was the only final law of the land, then please explain how you can legally buy and own an AR15 with standard capacity (30rd) mags. Put them in your car in Pennsylvania and youre cool, but as soon as you cross to New Jersey its a felony.

Your State Constitution, right in the first few lines, upholds the US. Constitution. In addition, if you have a proper Oath of Office on file, you promised in your OoO that you will uphold the US Constitution, as well. In the case of Louisiana that doesn't uphold the US Constitution, or any State that makes an amendment to their State constitution to remove the upholding of the US Constitution from their constitution... the Organic Acts of all States require that the States uphold the US Constitution to even be a State. (The Organic Act is the Act of the US Congress that authorizes a territory to become a State.)

This means that a person can always require a jury trial. The only way a person can be denied a jury trial is if he agrees to such. However, if he rescinds his signature off the agreement, he can still have a jury trial. The funny thing is that the jury trial isn't automatic. The accused must demand it.

Why would I want to read the US Constitution? Most of it has to do with the way they organize their operations in D.C.

The US Constitution absolutely is NOT the final law of the land. The US Constitution says so, itself, right in the parts that allow private contracting, and in the 9th Amendment:
Amendment IX

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

The jury trial existed before the Constitution. You can't lawfully deny the right to a jury trial to anyone who demands it. You really need to go back to LEO school. You really need to watch https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oyOBKiHUbuw to see what life and law are about.

Cool


You keep quoting the 9th A everywhere.  All it really says is:  you may have more rights than we defined here. Just because we defined these, doesnt mean you dont have more that we didnt list.

You quoted this 6th A regarding jury trial.  Look closer.... at the important words "CRIMINAL PROSECUTIONS". 

What if a traffic violation wasn't considered a "CRIMINAL" prosecution ?  There's your answer.
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