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Another partnership scheme in another form.
This time the user involved was asking instead for real accounts.
Why not save yourself from that hassle way and just create and verify your own accounts and solo your winnings? Unless you have another purpose....
Man believe this or not, this will be the least question people will ask to themselves. Why? Because this man offers easy money, it's very nice to hear, especially when said well, what he requires from you is very minimal and what he promises is really great. So most part of people will just be captivated from it and will be more than happy to agree with this proposal and give away not only their but also their friends' accounts. Well, we can do nothing, people need to improve logical thinking or at least turn it. no this isnt the last but these are only few of the hundreds and thousands of incoming threads simillar to this one but they can come in a slight modified form so that they wont look obvious . i would not give my account or my friends account because that is risky. he could have hack us both . lending accounts to others is still called investment even though no money is involved , so no Again: nobody needs to give me his account. I explained it a lot of times. |
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I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing
people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc
these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing
you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him
You are right since I do find value with the closing odds on Pinnacle though this happens minority of the time. Honestly, I have earned more through arbing when compared to value betting which is why I am a newbie when it comes to value-betting currently. You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value.
True. I did find value through the closing odds on Pinnacle several times, but found more value on the softs more often which is why I retract my statement. How do you find the value on closing line of pinnacle? You need to bet 1000s of bets, then you can really say if it was value. This is what the software does. |
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Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.
You're not finding better value. You're finding slightly better odds on Pinnacle with options that are still -EV. Pinnacle is very sharp, ie their odds are generally considered the most accurate. Other books (such as bet365) will have less accurate odds especially on smaller events, which can turn into +EV opportunities that actually have value. You've stated that you've arbed, and if you check your P/L history for your arbitrage bets, you'll see that you'll be negative on Pinnacle bets and positive on the other sportsbooks. Thank you for this, you are a true expert. But it could be true that he sometimes finds "value" on Pinnacle, with his own statistics and maybe early odds and when he is an expert in a small league. Or what does he think? If there is a surebet the value is always on the other side of pinnacle and other sharp bookies because they are too slow to adjust the odds and so there is a surebet for some minutes or sometimes longer. Every sports betting profi like you knows this  So thanks for confirming that. |
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Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?
You can also have the software and test on your own. I don't need your credentials. You can payout whenever you want, you generate constant winnings. |
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Do I understand correctly that I can create an account, pass verification and provide login/pass data to you, but sometimes I will be able to login to this account to see the results of your work? How long till I receive the first payments?
Hoho after you passed the verification and give him your account, he will run away from you. A simple logic, if making money is that easy why didn't he work together with his friend in real life? no need to come to this forum and make himself looks like a scammer. What shall I say to such a post? Some people are not able to read, it seems. Did you read everything in this thread what I wrote? Nobody needs to send me his user credentials. And I did with friends and I explained here a lot of times that everyone will get banned after some time, it is proven by lot of experienced users in this forum that this will happen to winners. The bookies ban all winners, they don't care if you use software, if you do surebetting, valuebetting or bet on smaller leagues where you are an expert and you win. You will get banned after some time. You don't have any experience, I am not able to run away even if I had credentials for example Bet365. Every user would be able to simple set back his password with the help of his email account. And I will never be able to withdraw to my account, just the user can withdraw to his bank account or an online account like Skrill. You don't know what you are writing and your simple logic is not very intelligent. Everyone who has accounts at bookmakers and other online platforms knows that passwords can be set back by emailadress within seconds. |
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Completely disagree. I have consistently placed bets on Pinnacle and other popular betting sites and always found more value through Pinnacle. Bet365 has a reputation of banning winners early which is why Pinnacle is far better in comparison.
I do agree that the old Bet365 accounts are quite valuable though. Also, Bet365 does not accept BTC which makes it a lousy proposition for crypto gamblers.
I'm not saying that pinnacle isn't beatable , it's much harder and edge is smaller but this isn't what we are discussing people who want bet365 accounts want to bet on unpopular leagues that Asian bookies don't even offer , I have seen a lot of people betting on U19 and U21 games or like Ecuador amateurs ...etc these games are only offered by soft books and ROI can be as high as 20% if you know what you are doing you will get limited fast and this is the whole purpose of this thread , that's why OP is searching for people to open accounts for him This is not what I am doing and not what software does. Software places about 100 bets per day, in big leagues, everywhere. Relative small amount per bet but a lot of, so the variance is low and you generate winnings week by week. Sometimes there might be a week with losses but this happens maybe 5 times a year. But bets are not placed in these small leagues, maybe sometimes but just if there is a sharp bookie on other side which has same bet. I cannot find out what is value in these unpopular leagues you mentioned. Maybe there are some punters out there doing this, but it is not what I am doing. As I mentioned before, nobody needs to send me his user credentials, I can everyone who is interested give the software to test. You will see that it is successful or do you think I develop such a complicated software if it would not be? :And I cannot do anything with your account even if I would have your user credentials. At the bookies you can just withdraw to your own bank account or skrill / neteller / paypal.... And yes everyone will get limited after some time and banned forever, but before this will happen everyone can generate 5k to 10k per person. Without doing a lot, just register, verify, deposit, withdraw. Nobody needs to believe but maybe someone here wants to test. I can also send the investment money for testing if it is a trusted member with lots of posts. |
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Dont know what bookies you use to do your value betting but I am using the sharp asian ones and never got limited. Pinnacle even embraces value and arbitrage bettors.
I have 15 years experience, met a lot of professional punters but never met anyone who beats pinnacle or asian bookmakers. Yes they love arbitrage bettors because they bet on an european bookie and hedge their bet on pinnacle. But on pinnacle side you make long term fat losses when you do this, because this site of the bet is sharp. And you lose the 1-2% marge of pinnacle there long run. So congratulations if you can beat pinnacle long term, I cannot do it. But I use pinnacle as reference to find out which bets at other bookis are value. |
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They will use your account with the information registered on your behalf to be used in many fraudulent activities, including money laundering. This is a brief summary of this topic. No matter how tempting I think 10K is, it's not worth it!
It seems that you don't really know what money laundering is . How should money laundering be possible on that way? It is just a way to get unbanned accounts to be able to generate winnings. A lot of experienced forum users in this thread have also proven that this is possible at bookies. And I was offering a deal in another post where I explain that I have another suggestion for a deal where nobody needs to give me their credentials. Does anyone here think a bookmaker will payout to a user's bank account if there is an illegal betting to fixed matches or something like that? So how could I have advantage of it? If there is no payout you just don't send me my part. But I trust that you will because you see how easy it is to get money by this and just if you do I will give you access o next bookie where you can generate more. I am looking for cooperation just because all bookies limit winning players to 0 and ban them forever! Everyone who has interest can earn lots of money without doing anything, per person it is maybe 1-2 hours for registering , verifying, deposit, withdrawal. |
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I mainly use a self created software to place bets, the bookies know that but they ban you after time and payout the winnings.
Maybe we can also find a deal that you run the software and don't give me your own user credentials.
Why do you use software to place bet, can't just bets be placed manually? Running your software is an essential part of the deal? Yes this is essential because software places a lot of bets every day, with relatively low stakes per bet, so the variance will be low and the winnings will be generated week by week. Placing all this bets manually is waste of time and not worth it. |
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hmm I dont think people will agree in your plans, why would you use other accounts, how can owners if the account , can prove that youre not like some kind of scammers trying cheat on them, do you have proof that you can be trusted , to be honest im curious I explained why I need other accounts and can't bet a my own. It is no big secret that this happens, 1000s of winners out there have the problem of getting banned. Bookies just like losers who get addicted and play without knowledge about valuebets. |
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I fully understand all concerns about giving user credentials to a stranger, I think I also wouldn't do that.
But everyone who has more experience with sportsbetting knows that there are ways to earn money with it: Bonus hunting, surebetting, valuebetting,...
I am doing these things for about 15 years now, during my study and as "side job.
When you are successful all bookmakers limit you to 0 and you cant bet any longer. Every professional in the scene knows that. But is that fair? B365 for example has about 1 billion Dollar Prfit per year, but they limit winning players after some time. So it is part of the game to get new accounts via friends and other people as long as bookmakers are not fair to their customers.
So this is the reason why new accounts need to be created, all bookies pay out as long as it is a real person's account. But after some time winners are banned and so you cant do that forever with your own account.
I mainly use a self created software to place bets, the bookies know that but they ban you after time and payout the winnings.
Maybe we can also find a deal that you run the software and don't give me your own user credentials.
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I know how to generate good winnings at bookmakers. I dont play any fixed games, I play 100s of normal valuebets a week. Most bookmakers will limit to 0 after some days or weeks, but they payout to accounts if the users exist (verify with real documents). So I need partners who want to use their own account or have accounts of friends and other real persons. Every real user can generate a few thousand dollar winnings (between 5k and 10k). Just about 4 bookmakers are needed for this. I know that it works so I can send initial deposit first, you dont need to invest. 30 percent of winnings you can have, 70 is for me. You just need to deliver username and password of account and do the payout and send me 70 percent of winnings. All you can do after money is paid out to bank or online bank like skrill. You just need to prove that you can create real accounts for for example bet365, old used accounts with loosing history are the ones wh have best chances to generate winnings for months. If you are interested to earn few thousand dollars per month just contact me: tom.eaton82@protonmail.com |
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