Please, check all the posts of this topic, all the rules broken and issues were already discussed.

These are clearly rules. And you just said that winners followed the rule of "not multiaccounting", well the "more than 30 seconds and less than 5 minutes" rule is in the same category of that one, and some winners had more than 5 minutes and less than 30 seconds (that's just one of the cases).

P.S.: I saw that you locked the other topic where I commented this issue to warn others and created a new self-moderated topic. I have no issue with that and I may not comment in the new topic again if you continue the conversation here and stop ignoring the problem.

I'm a newbie so I can't send PMs here, but I tried to let you know by sending the link to the Bitsler chat, but it was removed without any comment.

Guidelines? That sounds like a cheap excuse.

Those were rules clearly, anybody can see that.

I don't consider my posts offtopic, they are there to warn others about this issue related to your contests, so I won't remove them. If the Bitcointalk mods consider them offtopic, then they can remove them.

I can't PM you as I'm a newbie here, but I tried to post the link of the topic in the Bitsler chat and it was removed.

That topic has been up for some time already, if it really was offtopic then it would have been deleted already. And this post is to warn others about that issue related to your contests, nothing offtopic.

And not all the rules were followed, please check that other topic entirely. Maybe you can add something to the conversation over there


To warn others about this problem, as someone could reach this topic without seeing the other one.

WARNING!

Be careful with Bitsler contests. They did a contest recently and most of the winners selected by their staff didn't follow the rules of their own contest.

So you can have a very good entry with all the requirements, but lose against someone who didn't follow the rules, putting you at a clear disadvantage over them.

It is Bitsler's responsibility to enforce the rules as much as possible, otherwise why create rules for the contest?

If you don't want to lose unfairly, don't participate.

More info here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207267.0

This contest was really unfair.

Check this topic for a discussion about this contest: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5207267.0

There are many reasons for which one could decide to remain anonymous in these cases, and that's not a bad thing as long as the claims are well done (with verifiable proofs, etc). In my case, I just like my anonimity, that's all. Knowing which is my video won't change anything for this accusation.

They should try to follow their own rules as much as possible, otherwise they shouldn't put so many strict rules. There may be a couple of exceptions if the entries are really well done and worth it, but 6 out of 10 entries didn't meet all the rules here, that's a bit too much (and most of the videos of the winners weren't that good anyway to "justify" breaking the rules). There were a couple of entries that were really good and followed all the rules but didn't win, sadly the creators already deleted the videos so I can't show them to you anymore.


100% agree.


That's true most of the times, sadly. And this one has been the worst case for me by far (and I have participated in many contests).

Although in this case they can't even point out to the Terms and Conditions, as they broke their own rules, lol.

Lol yeah some of the videos of the winners were removed from Youtube, that's just sad.

No one from the Bitsler staff has said anything about this yet (afaik), and I don't really expect them to, tbh. But I would appreciate it.

Thanks for understanding the real issue here.

I also expected them to follow their own rules, especially as they are a reputable casino website on this forum, that's why I decided to participate in the first place.

This topic is mostly just a warning for other users, I don't expect anything else from this accusation.

I understand and I don't want to change who the winners were, as I said, it's more just to warn others that no matter if you follow the rules of the contest, Bitsler may only choose whatever looks better, even if they break their own rules.

And I'm not talking about their taste for videos, there is always some subjectivity involved, so what I think looks better may not be the same for them, and I'm fine with that. The problem here are the contest terms which were not followed by the Bitsler staff itself, and rules shouldn't be "subjective" in these cases.

Videos can be found here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203338.0
I just prefer to remain anonymous, but that doesn't really matter anyway and doesn't change my point, I could even be one of the winners and it would be the same.

I agree, and I wouldn't have any problem if all the winners followed the rules, even if their videos were horrible and poorly done. I don't mind subjectivity in contests, but I find annoying and disrespectful that the admins of the contest didn't follow their own rules.

I have participated in a lot of contests, sometimes I win, sometimes I don't, and I always just accept the results and go on in life. What's different this time and which never happened before to me (at least at this scale) is that more than half of the winners didn't follow the contest rules.

All the entries of the contest can be found here, I prefer to remain "anonymous" for this, as my identity doesn't really affect the point I'm making anyway.

Rules are there for a reason, they limit what you can or cannot do in a contest. If some follow rules and others don't, those who don't follow the rules (limitations) will have an advantage, which is pretty unfair for those that spent a lot of time making their entries and carefully followed the rules. It's just dishonest and disrespectful from the admins, and it hurts the image of Bitsler overall.

There was also a giveaway recently and not all the terms were clear, resulting in some users complaining about that too. It would be nice if Bitsler was more careful with their terms and they follow them accordingly.

And again, I know life is unfair and etc, and I don't expect to change the results with this topic, it's mostly just a warning for people thinking to join future contests, so they don't waste their time as many of us did. Editing videos is pretty time consuming, and it feels bad to put a lot of effort in a video and then find out the winners didn't even follow the rules.

Yeah literally what happened, pretty sad for those who spent hours and hours making their entries.

I agree that may be possible. For me, using a template where you just have to insert texts and images to obtain your video isn't original at all, but others could think differently.

But, although I complained about that, it's not the main issue here. The real problem is that more than half of the winners didn't meet all the rules of the contest, and that doesn't depend on "taste".

It doesn't matter if your work is 100% original or a template, everyone should follow the rules, especially the Bitsler staff.

I will continue the discussion in this new topic, as the OP closed the other one so nobody else could complain (original topic).


What an unfair contest.

Not only they took 2 more days than planned to announce the winners (which would have been fine, if they at least gave prior notice about that, and they didn't), but most of the winners' entries simply have horrible quality. There were many good videos and images than didn't win anything, and they were way better than the works of the actual winners.

But that's not the worst thing here, the worst thing is that most of the winners didn't meet all the requirements for the contest. If you are going to set rules, you can at least follow them and not give prizes to those that didn't follow the contest's rules.

These are the rules: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5203338.msg53138108#msg53138108

They wanted "original" content, and the first place is a video template, great!

The videos had to last between 30 seconds and 5 minutes, and there were winners with less than 30 seconds and more than 5 minutes.

And there were also some required text to put in the title and description of the videos, and some of the winners didn't do that.

Full list:
- 1st place: Made with a video template, it's not original. It doesn't say "Gambling" in the description.
- 3rd place: Made with an image template, it's not original.
- 6th place: More than 5 minutes. It doesn't say "Gambling" in the description.
- 7th place: It doesn't say "Gambling" in the description.
- 8th place: Less than 30 seconds.
- 9th place: Made with a video template, it's not original. It doesn't say "Gambling" in the description.

So, 6 out of 10 entries didn't follow the rules, wow.

Besides all of this, a couple of the winners clearly used multiaccounts to boost their likes and comments, nice.

Next time you make a contest, follow your own rules Bitsler, it's not that hard, I did all the rule checks of the winners in 5 minutes. You took 2 extra days for that, so we can at the very least expect that all the winners followed the rules.

I don't expect to change the results with this post or whatever, I just wanted to say how unfair and poorly ran the contest was.

Many spent several hours editing nice videos or creating great images, and they also followed the rules, so next time don't waste our time with your unfair contests, follow your own rules.