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These are all great ideas. I can perfectly align with this sensible replies. Artmis3 has some nice thoughts but part from his kind effort he is fully incorrect in my sensible estimation. If they are wearing anti gas masks to suck the germs of other people in, I think that would not be good for them, so I think you are thinking the wrong ideas of their purpose to wear it. Also why they wear the diver mask and gloves ? This was for their own protect but one look very sick he did not remember his goggle and his eyes are appearing red or maybe was crying. Your other ideas are good. It can be true that I can escape from nothing and run into a plume of vapour earlier exploded into the air where I escape too. Still I will think that because this corona is most from China I will avoid this sickly looking Chinese first above other that don't look sick including Chinese too because I don't be a racist. I must use my math probability skill set to navigate the dangerous waters of life like my math teacher always say to the class. I feel good today because now my friends have told me I will be run down by a train and blown up by a light bolt from the storm strike and crushed by a meteorite in my bed before corona virus can kill me. All of those sound easier than to be drowning in mucus. I think they mean or not and because 1 will be sufficient and the probability too much with and. Or is perhaps still a joking idea. My opinion is the best idea to still avoid persons looking sick and sneezing. I don't need to remain there inhaling their germs because they are different race to my one. Any race looking ill and sneaking I will avoid it. Also I google anti gas mask I think he is joking who want to suck worse gas inside their mask. Maybe comes with free tank of poison gas to try it out lol ...the concentration when released into the room not enough to kill unless you wearing anti gas mask and it filter out the non harmful part to ensure certain death lol Artemis3 was joke me I think  I enjoy your post it a good one and funny to teach me a lesson. |
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I am now a racist scum bastard because I want to not take a great risk on my health.
I was sit on the train with no other person in my superior class. The others preferring to pay budget and have discomfort and noise. I not wealthy but it worth a extra fee to watch my phone with no disturbance.
Next thing 6 Chinese or perhaps Japan coming with mask, gloves and even diving goggles. 1 sneezing and coughing. Fearing my health I jump out my seat and remove from this class to any other space with the budget. Actually I prefer to jump off the train but not sure if that would be more danger than virus. It start to move before I look up from my phone and notice the possible danger
Of course they might not be corona virus sufferers but I will not risk if I can avoid to suffer too. This is sensible I feel.
I think they notice my fear cos I hear them shouting after me racist pig and other attacks to me. Usually I would fight them for a ubuse me like this but I prefer to avoid contact if possible.
I want to survive not be a racist wtf one have a full face hazard mask like nuclear mask. I have no protection. If they not sneezing and coughing I will may keep my superior class seat.
I don't have any racist ideas if anyone black or Caucasians was sneezing coughing right now I will remove from there. Why must I risk to get sick or be racist scum?
World has gone racist crazy on any single idea.
I hope they are okay and well I don't wish harm for any person
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I note attach to Asian lung worse, spread go less other country. Can be hope.
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In several recent posts, I have vaguely alluded to quiet, behind-the-scenes preparations that I was making to take on the Yobit scam. My planning was preempted by such public outrage as has been brewing for months, but only broke forth with force within the past 24 hours. For my part, I am sick of seeing the Yobit scam-company not only advertised, but inexplicably advertised by many decent, otherwise respectable posters. This last is a significant problem for the health of the forum, insofar as it gives the Yobit ads more credibility than garden-variety sigspam. And I know that I am not the only one who wants to stop this! But my planning on this point ran into a significant problem. Whilst catching up and researching the topic, I noticed that yahoo62278 is currently wearing a Yobit ad. On the basis of mere common sense, I doubt that that is for the principal purpose of receiving direct payment for the ad; that would be relative chump change for someone whom I reasonably infer must have a long-term business relationship with Yobit. yahoo62278’s own profile “Yobit Yodollars” signature has the effect of making it wrongly socially acceptable to advertise a scam site; and as a practical matter, others wearing Yobit ads now cannot be tagged without, in fairness, also tagging yahoo62278, plus potentially ~excluding him to help support a mass-tagging action. I have no quarrel with yahoo, and I don’t want one. However, the Yobit scam advertising must be stopped one way or another; and whereas I recently said that Yobit advertisers will make their own choices and bear their own consequences, yahoo62278 cannot expect special treatment. Indeed, such a highly respected forum member must be held to the highest standards. yahoo62278’s general dealings with Yobit, and the impact thereof on this forum, may present further issues. I will simply start with the foregoing.
Note: Archive sites are misbehaving from where I sit. I think that my pertinent snapshots will eventually show up; I may thereupon edit this post to add appropriate links, and/or to add other links. Of course, if I substantively edit this, I will first archive it. Local rules: To be moderated in my sound discretion. I believe that in the foregoing, I have set an appropriate tone for addressing a serious problem involving a widely trusted forum member. This idea from nullius more sensible. All person promote are bad or none are bad. I agree this one of his red trust. |
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I think nullius will be prevented from dt1, I noticed already strange red reason given. Such moon sshould be the one to listen to. He is the best advise for how use the trust system. Follow him and his ideas understand if they not a scam or try to scam then not abuse with red your powers. You break the value of warnings. Nullius stay away from DT choice. I think he is doing what he believe is good but nullius border eccentric. Not offence
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LoyceV's guide seems reasonable.
The system is for handling trade risk, not for flagging people for good/bad posts/personalities/ideas.
In part, the idea of the system is to organically build up & enforce a community consensus on appropriate trading behavior. However, those parts of the consensus which have less agreement should be more difficult to apply than those parts which have widespread agreement, and also subject to change. Everyone agrees that if Alice promises Bob 1 BTC for $8000 and doesn't pay it, that warrants flags & ratings, and it should be very easy to create these flags and ratings. If Alice promotes something without disclosing that she was paid to do so, and the thing later turns out to be a scam, then 65% of the community will call this highly shady behavior, and 35% will call it not a contractual violation and therefore more-or-less fine; it may be possible to make flags and/or ratings stick, but the people doing so should feel as though they are on less solid ground, and maybe the community consensus on this will shift against them (depending on the exact facts of the case, politicking by interested parties, etc.). I refuse to set down a single "correct" philosophy on ethical behavior, since this would permanently divide & diminish the community, and I am not such a wise philosopher that I feel the moral authority to do so.
For ratings and type-1 flags, proactive scam-hunting is good! But as explained above, if you're acting near the edge of community consensus, it should be more difficult. If the community is not overwhelmingly behind you on your scam hunting, then it's probably going to end up creating more drama, division, paranoia, and tribalism than the possible scam-avoidance benefit is worth.
Ratings
- Leave positive ratings if you actively think that trading with this person is safer than with a random person.
- Leave negative ratings if you actively think that trading with the person is less safe than with a random person.
- Unstable behavior could very occasionally be an acceptable reason for leaving negative trust, but if it looks like you're leaving negative trust due to personal disagreements, then that's inappropriate. Ratings are not for popularity contests, virtue signalling, punishing people for your idea of wrongthink, etc.
- Post-flags, ratings have less impact. It's only an orange number. Some amount of "leave ratings first, ask questions later" may be OK. For example, if you thought that YoBit was a serious ongoing scam, the promotion of which was extremely problematic, then it'd be a sane use of the system to immediately leave negative trust for everyone wearing a YoBit signature. (I don't necessarily endorse this viewpoint or this action: various parts of the issue are highly subjective. But while I wouldn't blame people for excluding someone who did this, I wouldn't call it an abuse of the system.)
- Exercise a lot of forgiveness. People shouldn't be "permanently branded" as a result of small mistakes from which we've all moved past. Oftentimes, people get a rating due to unknowingly acting a bit outside of the community's consensus on appropriate behavior, and such ratings may indeed be appropriate. But if they correct the problem and don't seem likely to do it again, remove the rating or replace it with a neutral. Even if someone refuses to agree with the community consensus (ie. they refuse to back down philosophically), if they're willing to refrain from the behavior, their philosophical difference should not be used to justify a rating. For example, in the YoBit mass-ratings example above, ratings should be immediately removed after the person removes the signature, even if they maintain and continue to argue that they didn't do anything wrong. If someone agrees to "follow 'the law' without agreeing to it", that should be enough.
Flags
- Use flags only for very serious and clear-cut things. They're an expression of ostracizing someone from the community due to serious, provable misconduct or really obvious red flags.
- Use type-1 flags when the message which will be shown to newbies/guests is appropriate: "the creator of this topic displays some red flags which make them high-risk. [...] you should proceed with extreme caution."
- Use type-2 and type-3 flags only if the person is absolutely guilty of contractual violations. Imagine a legal system in which there is no law but contract law, and consider if this person would owe damages.
Trust lists
- If you find someone who has sent accurate trust actions and has no inaccurate/inappropriate trust actions, add them to your trust list. Inclusion in trust lists is a more a mark of useful contributions than your trust in them, though at least a little trust is necessary.
- If you think that someone is not using the trust system appropriately, or if you disagree with some of their subjective determinations, exclude them from your trust list. If bad outcomes happen in DT, this is partly the fault/responsibility of: the bad actors themselves; DT1 who include the bad-actors; DT1 who don't exclude the bad-actors; DT1 who include or don't exclude failing DT1; anyone else who includes failing DT1. While it's best to spend some time trying to fix things at the lower levels before escalating it, it's reasonable to complain to any of those people, as I did regarding Lauda that one time, for example. (Of course, the system itself is probably also imperfect, and that's on me.)
This guide make it open to wide abusive action. Any more warning to another member of risky, member must be able to show a behavior of try to scam or did scam must show example financial misconduct . Think in your own opinion more risky than average is not sensible. If not provide example then red is abuse. I investigate each of TOAA post and even the last challenge proof he supply correct evidence. Not even one person can beat his challenge last one. I enjoy his post and find the real history intresting So much red trust is a abusive and spoils system. His dirty turds I research I find nothing wrong for 5he ones I follow his link, these same one gives him red and they did it more high risk. only member claim TOAA scammer is on dirty turd with evidence he find on them. Now he gone who can fight for fair embers treatment. His swearing and anger his most trouble only. Should be calm. Each member relax and focus real scammer not your personal enemies. Enemies break sensible opinion emotional anger can influence. I think he can return soon. I try to support if he tell the truth. |
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Has any western person been diagnosed with virus? I know some are in other countries, but are they all Chinese ?
If not then maybe only Chinese can host. It has been said on another forum I read that God does not like Chinese people they have live dog skinning and torture and take their kids to watch for enjoy themself . Eating animals alive. I did not know in this age any country would be legal to do evil as this.
He think this may be a punishment it will help them repent this bad treatment of animals must stopped now.
Another place halfinneyradio or some such that Intel already 100k and more death not 56. Seems a little bit difference?? Can we know for real? Impossible. Hope vaccine or cure soon.
As far as I know viruses are not race specific. Unless this disease was made by God to kill the Han people (which, as an atheist I highly doubt) then this coronavirus can infect and kill anyone. I will agree I did have a small doubt if it was true. It could be strange if not any other race are contaged as numbers increase large over time. |
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This thread is an great example of how mobbing could happen here on an mass level, and trust system is used as an tool for it even if the person in question is in no way an harm to the forum ecosystem financially or has scammed anyone, with real victims. Let alone critizing or questioning the bheviour of ChipMixer and it's participants made an openly speaking DT ruin down his repo to the level his own profile got painted in reds.
I think this has just made more people afraid of speaking concerns of not only ChipMixer but any other campaign containing DT powered members in that amount, as it could result in tearing down your own identity here later. Patahic approach.
This point is most concern to members. This point need attention. Chipmixers I don't think racist for Turkish. It just they prefer to select from group of people that are each friend of each other. If when look post history , merit, trust list a group of friends like to help each other gain merits, default trust and chipmixers signature. It not a problem It not a worry if they do not red trust member for opinion. Chipmixers not only signature can find another. Let them keep it with their friends and just go another way. If you think it bad not a fair way Contact chipmixers or bitcointalk owner to explain how change will be best way. Chipmixers signature manager can come and tell his ideas. |
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Has any western person been diagnosed with virus? I know some are in other countries, but are they all Chinese ?
If not then maybe only Chinese can host. It has been said on another forum I read that God does not like Chinese people they have live dog skinning and torture and take their kids to watch for enjoy themself . Eating animals alive. I did not know in this age any country would be legal to do evil as this.
He think this may be a punishment it will help them repent this bad treatment of animals must stopped now.
Another place halfinneyradio or some such that Intel already 100k and more death not 56. Seems a little bit difference?? Can we know for real? Impossible. Hope vaccine or cure soon.
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I decide no to risk wrath of God on that girlfriend. Later on I find 2 girls already God might hates for homosexuality and tried with them. This way I am ok. ....
You have some certainly very interesting ideas. I have to agree, that finding 2 girls who God already hates for their homosexuality and trying it with them is better than causing God to hate more people. He's pretty busy already, you know. But are the girls whom God already hates hotter than those he doesn't hate? I don't think I'd want to get involved with any who were ugly as sin. To think of others is a good idea. It will pay back. I don't know if he really hate because they seem kind heart girls. One was hot other one average. Not ugly sinners. I think I am ok. Nothing bad happened to me now and that was year and more before. They are ok. To be honest. They do not heed my words they suggest repeat again after. This is their choices I have warned. 2 uglies worse that 1 ugly so don't want bad mark for having worse. |
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Some member believe he changed to Craig Wright account. Most do not believe because he did not prove. He pretend to prove but did not checked out so now only few believe him. Someone may know or satoshi may be post with new alt account. Some other say it is Nash the Mathematician. It may not be true. Theymos may know it. If CW is indeed satoshi. Its easier to login Satoshi account here or Sign a message using the Bitcoin address the funds he is holding rather than doing some chit chat just to boost his bitcoin SV shitcoin. That guys is not thinking logical since he is blatantly claiming he is Satoshi then why he didn't do it in simlle say if he is indeed satoshi.  This is the true words. This why I told nobody believe him now. The newspaper believed him but they are not Bitcoin experts many members here. It was told satoshi was not expert coder or disguise he was expert. Some say Nash is the one. Nobody know for sure. |
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This one probably do more harm than good to reputation of real decentralized project like Bitcoin. Avoid. If I was live in Africa I will stick with Bitcoin.
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Some member believe he changed to Craig Wright account. Most do not believe because he did not prove. He pretend to prove but did not checked out so now only few believe him. Someone may know or satoshi may be post with new alt account. Some other say it is Nash the Mathematician. It may not be true. Theymos may know it. |
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Thank you, these are all good ideas. It is true some girls that are just as smart as men. The problem is the economic. If only one working and one stay at home with the children, I think house price ( the worst cost in life) will be only half. Also children will return to stronger minds and less corrupted thoughts . If girls can not afford to their own house the demand for house will go down so yeah will reduce in cost.
I think best way is if in family the one that can earn the highest amount will work the other will stay home and help kids and housework. Can be girl or the men.
The problem can be some girls, the media make them think it is weak and unequal to be house mum. They need to prove they can be equal to men. Some jobs girls can not do in a equal way police, fire service and manual strength tasks, driving job , task of great complexity. Other things they excel supermarket and shops makeup counter, kindergarten teaching, and other helpful personal assistant and secretary nurse. You can find one big stronger girls that can do manual and police but not many and these sometime can't get a partner because men don't want one bigger stronger as them, so these reducing in DNA each generation . Also some very clever girls can do complex jobs if they train with men for many years and we teach them, they then get even smarter than lot of men. Scientist have shown girl brains are not much less, they just never train them before so we did not realized they can be equal. Now we know it.
So whichever one can earn more, that one will work other can stay home with kids if the man is less capable than the wife then that is his own falt and can still learn to house chores and help he children with love and care. People can buy less unwanted gadget new car and material things and just focus food, heat house time with kids. Girls will soon adapt to understand they will happier to behave more natural not feel must act as a man.
Teasing them can be the same as men and must to try it is bad for boys and girls. No need to both scurry as the rat and get nothing more than if one do.
I understand the member who say we must have wenches and prostitutes and has always been, that is a very useful job for girls but not suitable if you have a family and children in my idea. Only if no food or last resort and try to keep secret. Hopefully not.
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What about you call a KKK as not racist, and it get his friends suspicious? This lead to his house burned down? Who will be the sued one on that case? I think don't mention it at all you may get sued.
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You could loan out 9 of the Ferrari's - for free - to 9 poor people so they have a way to get to work. Keep one for yourself so you have a way to work.  It is not the best way. Buy enzo or la Ferrari new. don't drive it much and don't lend to another. Keep and they will go 5x in value in 10 yrs. Sell 2 and the poor can have the same. If the poor one need money quicker. Can get secured loan at low rate. Can get secured loan at 3percent. Then repeat with new rare model each release help more of poor ones like this. |
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This could be my wrong idea. A girl complaining of her life, say to me her mums life was more appealing.
House price gone expensive. Girls working all full time. No time for relax at home with children.
Because 2 wages house gone 2x more and worse with low interest mortgage and long term.
Some girls can be clever with a lot of help and patience just as smart as some men. It is true. Some have a nice salary. Most working supermarkets and shops. They are worse off now. They don't have time with their own children and enjoy relax go to th park, picnic, knitting and needle work. Mothers gathering and fun.
Did they fight to get equal and now it is gone bad for them and men. Now no kids people can have house each and be alone with more bills to pay each one not together.
Should we have been firm and kinder to them for the longer benefit of all?
This is not a sexism post. Girls are equal or best for their own suited tasks.
This is my honest answer. Put them back to more female natural role but how? Both need to work or debt will accrue.
Children can be suffering the parents both work long weeks
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Will return with new account. Best action to warn member will blacklist his shop address on bitcointalk if repetitive behavior. Rule say unsolicited personal message advertising will a ban. Can make to newbie we can not send personal message.
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They're not even cryptohunter. Not that cryptohunter wasn't a nobody, which he was.
I'm pretty sure they're the same person, and I've had a suspicion for a long time that that person is Bruno. Funny how one disappeared with a grudge against the forum and another appeared, also with a grudge against the forum.
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| | Name: YuTü.Co.in
Posts: 2200
Activity: 728
Merit: 346
Position: Sr. Member
Date Registered: 03 January 2015, 14:28:11
Last Active: 12 April 2019, 02:41:02
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Location: Nashville, TN
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| Name: The-One-Above-All
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Activity: 238
Merit: 56
Position: Member
Date Registered: 12 April 2019, 02:18:42
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In one of his latest thread he said that he won't return after 2 days. Just ignore him for the coming 48 hours and see if he is provably (dis)honest. We shall likely NOT return at all again after the next 2 days.
TOAA is NOT Bruno. No chance in hell. Take it from someone who knows Bruno personally that they're not the same person. Bruno never disappeared -- he was quite active in my BSV Scam Accusation thread as Phinnaeus Gage until very recently.
OK., thanks for stopping by. Can the local time say different if the same one ? pugmon say different voice on phone when speak with them, can't change voice. Both know long history of forum events from years past. Long lasting members both. All different or one is all. Does any one do a scam? Bruno is ban? Not post from long time. If not scam we leave it alone. Arguing is okay. All forum get e same and member enjoy to read it. Swearing can slow down to gain a best result. |
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When start forum 2009, rank policy system only activities then 2018 change forum rules rank up policy merit + Activities , I ask @theymos again any Possibility change forum rules upcoming future.
Only theymos can know, this why you ask him only . I see some adaptions suggest by members for improvements of merit. Further time required for for testing. Theymos like Bitcoin developers. Slow and gradual test not quick to change like alt coin developers, big timeframe for evaluate before further change. Some member want fast tweak they suggest, they think it will improve. Merit stop lot spams and bot used to grow high rank for sale . I think rank is over concern by members. Only Ivy tower you are prevented. Small rank can post everything and read same as legendary rank, so rank not important but can pay more for signature if you want to have when you are hero or legend but will take some years . Merit make some problems with dispute and argument. This will maybe fix next update. To conclude, no big change nothing I notice being talked about , tweak and improve to merit is possible reduce 50 to less amount . |
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