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D) You would report him to daniel whenever you got the chance. Also, you talking about honor is quite convenient as you seem to lack it the most out of anyone here.
To add to that, he made literally 80% of his funds from bab & ec.
But you're right. Maybe both parties at fault here.
The thing is, Enzo is already muted on all of his bustabit accounts that I know of, Daniel doesn't mute scammers unless they're directly phishing in the chatbox, or if they're spamming or being overly obnoxious. Daniel has said numerous times that he will not intervene in user deals and suggests not to transact with any other bustabit users. I do not respect Enzo for his scamming, in the same way I do not respect you for refusing payout and profiting off of stolen accounts. We are absoloutely not refusing payout. Since the bet was illegitmate due to the fact Elifeur did not know what he was betting on. He thought it was for the multiplier. Elsewise, it would be paid out to enzo, no problem : but we personally believe due to this the bet should be V O I D. We will pay out to the people enzo scammed as this bet was not done in a fair way, and he is not a fair person. |
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Oh, so you know he's a scammer? Great. Then I'm sure you will agree that if Elifeur owes Enzo money, then said money should go straight to the victims of Enzo's scams.
I don't know what arrangement would be made, nor do I really care, because it is not my position to care, all that I know or care about is that Elifeur owes someone 1000$ and that the website busts.io is not to be considered trustworthy in it's current state of leadership and site content. My goal with this post is to make people aware of this site's shady actions, if a donation to victims or whatever needs to be made, then so be it. We respect that you're looking out for your fellow man. Our argument is that there was a miscommunication which i'm pretty sure the bet should be void, as it is not a fair bet. We're aware of how we look.. trying to fix it  The money should go the people [who need it the most] who you scammed. |
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A)
Firstly, you were NOT SCAMMED $1000.
There was a bet where if you enzo was right he would get $1000. After 1 hour, it came apparent that both sides had a miscommunication where elifeur thought they were talking about the actual multiplier code [1.1x, 2x, 3x etc] and Enzo assumed that the topic was about the actual gameserver.
Due to this, i believe that the whole bet should be void.
If the population here disagrees then i will make sure half of the betted money goes to either a charity of choice or a giveaway here on bitcointalk, but i do not think someone who steals money from innocent people should deserve it.
B)
Went through this on another thread.
However, we will purchase the license soon and remove all pirated content in the coming weeks, if you do not trust until that you do not have to plah.
C) Elifeur is not the owner of the website.
His actions do not represent the site itself.
D)
Enzo has been harassing elifeur since elifeur stopped tipping him $200 a day on bustabit, and has been jealous of him for as long as possible.
He's doing this for monetary gain and thats all he's ever interested in, stealing money from innocents and he did not make this thread for anyone but himself.
Let us know about what we should do for A.
A.) Making a wager, saying deal, and then refusing to pay when you're proven to have lost, is called scamming someone. The miscommunication, as I've stated before, was ONLY on Elifeurs side. Elifeur did not articulate what he meant correctly before saying deal. Therefore he agreed to exactly what he said. Which is that the game server is different. B.) You cannot operate legally without a license. Anywhere. C.) Eli IS the owner, as proven apparent by several screenshots he's posted publicly showing admin specific functions he has access to on his site. D.) I haven't harassed Elifeur at all. I wouldn't go as far as to say I'm jealous of him, but anyone can make money illegally, there's no honor in that. Trust me. To further that, I don't think I spoke to him again until his site opened, as he sort of disappeared from Bustabit once he made his goal. A) https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/680016400244539421/691600363526029352/unknown.png?width=667&height=560Nobody had lost as the conclusion from your end was coming from Daniel. +, despite what you may think elifeur is not stupid. He would not assume 'game server' which he knows is in the repository, (he has been on this multiple times i assure you he has known it exists. B) We won't be operating without a license much longer. Did your clone have the license may i ask? C) It is known he has full access to the site. Why? He's the co-owner. I'm sure it goes without saying. If you asked us if he had full access, we would say yes. Clearly we're not hiding it if hes going to post screenshots in the server D) You would report him to daniel whenever you got the chance. Also, you talking about honor is quite convenient as you seem to lack it the most out of anyone here. To add to that, he made literally 80% of his funds from bab & ec. But you're right. Maybe both parties at fault here. E) https://gyazo.com/89a956c26517574cebe5fd9b78a87526 Enzo repeatedly said he trusts elifeur to be fair. I assure you we would not lie over $1000. Anyone claiming so is calling enzo a liar. |
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I believe the bet is voided because there was a miscommunication and both thought they were betting different things.
That's why i believe the money should go to somewhere else, as enzo thought differently and so did elifeur -> (to be realistic would a known scammer such as enzo really pay this bet if he lost in a fair way)
There's no way to say who won the bet because
Elifeur thought the bet was about the multiplier code not being in the source code
Enzo thought it was about the game server.
Both were right in what they thought so its hard to tell who won,
Sorry if i didnt explain this properly.
Well, the fortfox site didn't make ALL of elifeurs money : alot of it was from gambling on bustabit, ethercrash and such.
In addition, since the launch of the site the ownership of the site was transferred to KingSales and Elifeur has not stocked in a very long time.
Furthermore, although the accounts are stolen elifeur just sold and bought. This is still unexcusable but i'm sure it cant be as bad as enzo scamming innocent people around this community.
I apologise if you do not trust elifeur to handle your funds, if so, as others have stated there are much more reputable crash sites to visit and play and in coming time we will release an update to our site to try and prove ourselves, through buying licenses and cool gimmicks not seen anywhere else! [we'll remove the plagiarism..]
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A)
Firstly, you were NOT SCAMMED $1000.
There was a bet where if you enzo was right he would get $1000. After 1 hour, it came apparent that both sides had a miscommunication where elifeur thought they were talking about the actual multiplier code [1.1x, 2x, 3x etc] and Enzo assumed that the topic was about the actual gameserver.
Due to this, i believe that the whole bet should be void.
If the population here disagrees then i will make sure half of the betted money goes to either a charity of choice or a giveaway here on bitcointalk, but i do not think someone who steals money from innocent people should deserve it.
B)
Went through this on another thread.
However, we will purchase the license soon and remove all pirated content in the coming weeks, if you do not trust until that you do not have to plah.
C) Elifeur is not the owner of the website.
His actions do not represent the site itself.
D)
Enzo has been harassing elifeur since elifeur stopped tipping him $200 a day on bustabit, and has been jealous of him for as long as possible.
He's doing this for monetary gain and thats all he's ever interested in, stealing money from innocents and he did not make this thread for anyone but himself.
Let us know about what we should do for A.
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Hey we know it looks like a copt of BAB but thats cause we have used BAB v1 code
Now you're just lying. The bustabit homepage has nothing to do with the BaBv1 code. You literally just made an exact copy of bustabit's homepage, and then edited a few things. It's worth noting that even if you bought a copy of the updated version of BaB source it wouldn't include the current homepage. I put a comparison here: https://imgur.com/a/adhnTmjMy favorite is how you took the image that literally has bustabit's logo and then removed the logo  Wouldn't it have been easier to just use a different image? rofl. And we didnt paid for license because it was already public so we thought of making our own source code
As you know, the license doesn't require you to pay -- it just requires you to keep your changes public under the same terms you got it. Or alternatively you can pay if you don't want to do that. I always found getting trust works better when you don't tell verifiable lies in public, but hey, maybe the leaderboard idea will work too. Good luck! --- P.S. Your homepage references features that are exclusive to bustabit. Like the "enhanced privacy" stuff is custom made by bustabit, and the code you're using (BaBv1) doesn't do that Hi Ryan, We apologize for the obvious lack of care for this release. Our idea was to run this version, as a test, then purchase the license and work on a re-model of the site, stupidly assuming that people would still choose to gamble on such website.And Perchlorate (owner of ethercrash) has played on our site and withdrawed his winnings successfully. We thank you for the feedback and will make sure to fix hte misperfections of our site.Also if you have some tips or suggestions for us please let us know. -busts.io |
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Thread updated to handle certain inquiries.
Any more questions, please send us in direct messages on site.
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Just to let everyone know, the Owner/OP is 17 years old, gambling from a country where online bitcoin gambling is not allowed. He has no gaming license anywhere in the world, and his server is hosted in the USA.
If what RHavar said wasn't enough, what i said surely should be.
Hey , Firstly we arent fooling anyone or any players , the players who played in our site knows that we are legit and they have cashed the money they won without any problem. And we arent any alt of someone we are just trying to start a site from 0 and would require support of evwryone to grow. There wasnt any shady activity in our site non of the players had problems till now so please dont claim us to be a scam without any solid proof.You are always welcome to come to our site and try it if you find its suspecious. The claims you have made I have anwswered to all of them and explained how he is wrong so please read it if you need more information. And we hope we can get some support from the community to help us grow Thank you, busts.io |
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Just to let everyone know, the Owner/OP is 17 years old, gambling from a country where online bitcoin gambling is not allowed. He has no gaming license anywhere in the world, and his server is hosted in the USA.
If what RHavar said wasn't enough, what i said surely should be.
Hey you were the one who was fighting in our chat for no reason I guess. Let me clear all the claims you made. 1)It was 2 months ago where I said in my stream I am 17 and will almost be 18 in 1 month.Ans on February 2020 I turned 18 (I can provide proof of my id if needed for legal use) 2) Yes I am from Netherlands and this is what I found according to google "The Bank of Netherlands (De Nederlandsche Bank) Stand on the Bitcoin. ... But there are no active restrictions (as of yet) by the Treasury or any other body for that matter on virtual money meaning players can bet using the Bitcoin on their favorite platforms" It clearly says you are allowed to gamble so please do a bit more research before you claim something next time. 3) We have recently opened the new site 2 days ago and arent sure how successful it would be so I wouldnt consider getting a license atm but if we see its going well then we are looking to get a license in 2 months. 4) Our servers arent hosted in USA just saying, but even though it was it isnt illegal to host servers in USA I think * Thanks for reading this I hope I was able to answer all the claims you have made and I respect that you asked those but the next time please do a bit more research..... -busts.io |
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I love how you've copied bustabit's landing page (look, feel, design, text) without permission and then used the babv1 license without following the simple terms (AGPLv3) that don't even require payment No wonder: Sites that are violating the terms of bustabit's open source license and should
not be considered trustworthy:
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busts.io
If you want a bit of a pro-tip, the only way to have a successful business in this industry is having a good reputation for being a business people can truly trust. You're not doing a great job at that. Hey we know it looks like a copt of BAB but thats cause we have used BAB v1 code And we didnt paid for license because it was already public so we thought of making our own source code and players will trust us too I hope there are people who won and cashed out their $ https://busts.io/leaderboard |
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“BITCOIN GAMBLING SINCE 2020”
If that was my site, I’ll put that after let’s say 5 to 10 years, bit not now as a brand new one
You need to gain trust first
Good luck anyway
yes we know but we dont wanna do fake advertisement saying since 5 years we wanna start from the start and tell our players the 100% truth |
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BTCusts.
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- Low house edge, better than all other sites.
- Possibility of very high bonuses on rounds.
- Play with however much you want and withdraw however much you like, whenever you like.
- Easy to navigate.
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Maybe this wasn't clear in the original post.
This is not a full release, it's a test run which is why the hot wallet and such aren't as big as they will be. As for the license, this will be purchased in coming weeks time, following a FULL re-model, from
a) Daniel
b) A gambling license
In addition, to the people claiming the site is illegitimate and one not to work with: all profits have been matched with the deserved withdrawals.
Background:
Elifeur is not exactly the owner, but more of a co-owner / major investor. The person who handles the website is his silent partner, a relative.
Elifeur gained mass attraction from scoring hundreds of thousands in profit on different crash sites, which inspired him to work on this website.
To clear things up:
He is not 17.
Elifeur said he was 17 months ago in a livestream but turned 18 on the 15th of February. Anyone claiming he is 17 is spreading misinformation.
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