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1  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: November 29, 2020, 07:14:09 PM
I have been part of a trading bot team and I have sold a lot of it and I can tell you from inside that bots are not for newbies, it is for people who can make money using the trading bot because it requires a lot of technical and financial information. You have to both know about the technical stuff behind the bot like the language and other stuff and make sure you understand it completely as well and how it works, but you also need to know trading stuff like indicators macd, bollinger etc etc stuff so that you can use the bot to its full extent.

If you are a noob that doesn't know anything, you are 100% going to lose your money and there is no way you can profit unless you are super lucky since it is definitely not a thing that is destined to help you unless you know what you are doing.
Common mistakes of noobs on where they do believe that easy money exist into this field where they do believe that bots can make them rich in no time without even realizing that reality doesnt work like that.

Even if you are knowledgeable into these things you cant still assure that you would able to get constant or sure profits but somewhat it is much better compared to those people who do just simply ran off their bot
without even knowing the basics or how things do work.

Make money while you sleep and do make the bot do its job? yes its possible but dont expect that results would be always positive.

When you have a plan and strategy for example R/R ratio rules in long and midterm with a high number of trades you will win
2  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: August 03, 2020, 01:14:26 AM
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Caption is nice to read and very attractive to get attention from much people. But truly I have some doubt about it. How it will run? May be it will run how we give input to it. Most importantly, will it work if the market gradually change the system without our monitoring?
How it will run? It needs those people who fully understand the market and you can set up the bot with your knowledge and skills in trading. If you don't have the knowledge you won't able to set up the bot and I guess you will end up nothing. Don't rely on bot trading because they just only the bot that will be monitoring the market while you are away from your computer to execute trading.

However, in short, this is not good for a newbie in trading it will not beneficial effect.

You can trade manually by your won and your study. There's no need to take advantage of the market.

This, not a Standalone program you can download and set up for trading, we serve our customers by API keys and now customers can subscribe to our bot all trading activity under the control of our trader's bot can decide entry zones profit and stop-loss zones by market data /Fibo levels and also decide for short/long and quantity by Funding rate it's optimized to make a profit even small bot can place 50 /sec /account by ladder orders always bot improve entry until stop if funding rate is in our side try to catch that also all this calculate in a second.

We have monthly service for the test but for better performance 3-month service advised.
everyone can join in Dephlagy.com website and also check youtube proofs  (we have a limited to 30 person discount for first orders by "8BVFC5H6" coupon code)
3  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: July 10, 2020, 02:41:37 PM
I have been a big part of this world, been a user, been a seller, even tried to make my own. I can tell you that it is not worth it. Bots are sold for a lot of money (because they know that if they do monthly you won't use it on second month and if it is monthly it is a lot of money). And the only reason to spend that much money is if you are already a veteran trader that knows everything he needs to know and only make those kinds of investments for saving some time and making sure the bot runs exactly how he wants it to run. If you are a newbie, bots are useless and only a way to lose money.

I had a friend who lost 5k dollars overnight only because he failed to set the bot up properly, wasn't bots problem because it was my friend who made a mistake, but unless you are a veteran they really don't worth it.

We don't sale our bot for individual people as a standalone app, people subscribe to Dephlagy  with a reasonable monthly subscription fee, We have many kinds of customers most of them have their own job and don't have trading knowledge they happy even with 10% of monthly profit as you know it's very easy on this market only by 2 or 3 low risks good trade in a month
I think many of peoples comment on this topic don't read our answers about the bot and how it works
it's not stand alone buy-sell only bot, it does not trade 24 hours we enter on good and safe opportunities with good Risk / Reward ratio high profit's not important for us only made money continuously is very important
4  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: July 05, 2020, 12:13:03 PM
1-Dephlagy is a Fully automated software?
– No, Dephlagy is an Ai trading bot that can calculate Vertical and Dynamic S/R lines, Fibo Levels and Also detect the best entry by R/R ratio to enter a position but market trend and waves monitor by our trading team 24×7

2- Dephlagy suitable for whom?
– Anyone, Dephlagy more suitable for whom have another job and also don’t have time for trading, or emotional peoples lost their money on the market and who wants 30%-140% (depend on the market situation) continuously income from the market.

3- Using Dephlagy is safe?
– By using Dephlagy you hold your capital in your exchange account, we don’t need to ask you your exchange credentials, Dephlagy only trade on your account by an API key with trading only permission you can provide from your exchange account.

4- Can I monitor trades?
– Yes, always you can see any open position on your exchange account and also can monitor your orders, also you can close the position manually, but this temporary disable bot and you need to ask our support to reenable.

5- How and what need to subscribe to bot?
– If you want to buy our copy-trading bot subscription (1/3/6/12 Months) goto this link,
5  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 27, 2020, 11:34:15 PM
I read topic titles like too good to be true, maybe the reality of making money is not that easy. Although I must admit a few AI bot trading
is profitable, but it usually doesn't last long. My advice if you want to successfully use trading bots, don't trust 100% bots to trade for you,
still periodically do a market analysis. Sometimes bots occur an error when the market changes suddenly due to manipulation of whales or
bad news. I personally more comfortable using manual trading, because it's fully I make the decision.


Dephlagy Allways monitor by our trading Team it's not stand-alone software ( Traders can buy our stand-alone software bot they most monitor bot trend detection by self)


I used to be in these AI trading bots and it really didn't work. It only works fine for the first 1-2 months and after that the system always fails and gives false signals. Quality bots must be created for more than $ 1 million, which is the real bot. In addition, normal bots in telegram groups will usually not work stably and can never be profitable for us.
There is a flip side to that situation, these bots will make you money when the market is moving higher, i have not personally used any AI bots but i assume that they buy low and sell higher at regular intervals and it will help when the market trend is positive, if the market goes down then the algorithm fails to deliver the results you got earlier.

Market Trend and waves detection Allways monitor by our trading team, Dephlagy is an online service, not a stand-alone software you install on the computer and it only buys and sells



I read topic titles like too good to be true, maybe the reality of making money is not that easy. Although I must admit a few AI bot trading
is profitable, but it usually doesn't last long. My advice if you want to successfully use trading bots, don't trust 100% bots to trade for you,
still periodically do a market analysis. Sometimes bots occur an error when the market changes suddenly due to manipulation of whales or
bad news. I personally more comfortable using manual trading, because it's fully I make the decision.
Bots are for automation and theres no other reason other than that but people are way expecting too much that it can generate out passive and stable profits for longer period of time or even believe that it can sustain like forever.

Making money while you sleep? This is only possible for leverage businesses in physical world but we know that this would really require homogeneous amount of capital for it to be attained but still risk would always lie ahead.

Manual trading is much more preferable but using automation isnt bad at all if you do know on what you are doing but dont expect much like on this one.

As we said before Dephlagy very suitable for whom have another job and don't have enough time for trading also good for emotional peoples, Dephlagy not magic it's not 2 or 3x your wallet in the month but if anyone wants to earn 30%-140% continuously on month depend on the market situation Dephlagy can be the best choice



6  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 24, 2020, 11:26:56 PM
I see that the bots are not a new thing, they have been around for a while. Frankly, I never trust these bots, despite the way they work. I always prefer to work manually, it is safer and more reliable for me

For people don't have enough time Dephlagy bot + traders support is the best select
Our customers do own job and make monthly 30 -70% from the market by Dephlagy
7  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 21, 2020, 04:18:45 PM
Can someone further explain this trading bot to me, I am trying to learn as much as I can and think that this is a part of the journey, what are the pros and cons of bot trading, is there a recommended bot? Thank you for the response.

We explained on several posts before also you can find details on our website


Can someone further explain this trading bot to me, I am trying to learn as much as I can and think that this is a part of the journey, what are the pros and cons of bot trading, is there a recommended bot?
You can find lots of suggestions and warning against trading bots across this forum as we have lots of topics here on bots time to time.

Let me try to summarize few of them along with my personal opinion on trading bots:
  • Trading bots cannot get you profits all the times. You must be ready to face losses even you start using them.
  • Bots are just program codes hence we cannot expect it would be covering all the trading strategy. Please remember all startgies are having some limitations due to wild fluctuations and new triggered markets.
  • Using bots on your trades makes you unable to develop your skills which means you might need to depending on bots for your rest of life.
  • You may try bots for your technical analyzing part but trade purely based on your final decision.
  • Bots through API may lead to security breaches hence do not use them with all your 100% capital.
  • Try to code your own bots and have multiple bot on your one single trade and make trades based on multiple bot's signal which us usually known for its highest possibilities to happen.


As I said before this is not a stand-alone bot like bots you seen before, bot decisions monitor by our traders also this kind of trading very suitable for people have another job and don't want to waste time on charts also good for some emotional people always loss on the market
We need API with Trading (open position and place order) permission this manages by exchange any security issue not related to us.
And also bot always use stop losses and enter to trades with good R/R ratio this is not a 24h buy sell bot
We try to build a mechanism to our customers to make money continuously from the market and this kind of trade not good for gamblers want to buy Lambo in 1 month
8  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 20, 2020, 12:01:00 AM
As someone who actually is developing an AI trading system, I take offence to your "Ai" claim... :/

Also, don't post more than once per 24 hours.   Edit old post if you have new info. 

it's the different mean of AI for projects and peoples, we play with the results and respect everyone idea


9  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 17, 2020, 11:45:48 AM
Most people are not using trading Bots not that they don't trust this AI system but because they are not comfortable of using it rather than to do manually. I understand you would like to promote it and that's your stand anyway but you can't push traders to use it for they hear some bad feedbacks from the others. Should we think that trust issues could easily be settled down, not really for sure and these traders might suffer already a bad experience having this trading Bot which it brought them to give doubts.

I completely agree with you, most of the trading bot's only do sell/buy don't calculate ROE, Risk and Reward Ratio and don't check latest trades ROE and overall account ROE to decide about position size and how much can risk
10  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 16, 2020, 08:50:39 PM
Bots are known for making automated way of profiting in trading but you are sounding like too intensive type of bot which may work all the 24 hours to get us profits? I am sorry I am not ready to believe into such a thing.

Because, if you trade more the chances for losses also too high. So, an effective bot must choose right signal and this way must maximize the chances to be profitable.

No, Dephlagy take 2 or 3 some times even 1 position each week, I don't say our bot trades all the 24 hours but when bot enter in position continuously short/long upper/below the entry (Safe range till stop loss) and exit on take profit ranges by huge amount of orders as maker
11  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 16, 2020, 07:22:05 PM
You are the one who are accountable with your decisions in your trading so your strategy and action matters.

If you think that you're trading skills is not enough and you're relying on trading bot, then that's really bad for your assets. You should how to manipulate your coins using your own strategy, you should make yourself better in trading and learn a lot of stuffs about it. Trading bots will not give you huge amount of profit, but you yourself will do. Make different effective and useful strategies that you will benefit whenever you perform in a trading transactions.

Manual trading gives full access to the capital used for trading, manual trading is always better than BOT. BOT is only an alternative for people who really need it.

Yes, manual trading can give you full control with your money so that you will not have a hard time in trading. Bots usually are not that effective when the market situation changes. You can use trading bot if you have some things to do, if you have other things to prioritize rather than trading, just like your job.




I agree with you bot's very suitable for peoples to have another job and don't have time waste on charts, also many amateur peoples don't take profit from the market and after 2 or 3 success trade emotionally loss all capital on the market because they don't trade they gamble with 50x or higher leverages.
Dephlagy is an intelligence bot build a history of the market and calculate S/R lines Fibo lines also R/R ratio for positions also bot overall trend control by our traders manually
This is our last month's portfolio chart we don't make 2x 3x but we made a profit for our customers don't make huge losses
https://twitter.com/dephlagy/status/1272970685908910080
for our customers 20% 30% in one month I very good profit ever this is higher than everything can you invest.
but we always tell our customers Cryptocurrency or forex markets very risky and some times maybe they have losses but we try our best to reduce loss.
12  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 16, 2020, 09:23:56 AM
I used to be in these AI trading bots and it really didn't work. It only works fine for the first 1-2 months and after that the system always fails and gives false signals. Quality bots must be created for more than $ 1 million, which is the real bot. In addition, normal bots in telegram groups will usually not work stably and can never be profitable for us.

I've never used a bot before but i have lots of friends both even the ones i met online who have used the services of the so called trading bots in the past and the review they gave is exactly thesame with yours, trading bots do make people lose their investments due to inacurate signals.  I believe more work is needed to be done on bots algorithms inorder for tge Ai to function in real time and provide traders with profit

Yes, you are right many of bots only scripts to buy and sell, but we always monitor Dephlagy to ensure bot trades on the right direction and even bot due to the machine learning function always build a history of the market for future use, Dephlagy, not a stand-alone simple buy-sell bot, Dephlagy learn every day every second and get better day today
13  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 15, 2020, 10:02:57 PM
Using a trading bot to trade and earn money is definitely not the right thing to do.  Especially if the boat you will use is of poor quality, you will definitely regret it. As I mentioned in their previous posts and similar topics, using bot is definitely something that should not be done. If you think that there are bots that have been turned upside down by big movements frequently, bots that do wrong, and dozens of bots that cannot complete the processes, you will easily understand why I am against the use of bots. Personally, I do not recommend using trading bots.

how much time take you calculate a short entry between 9800 -10000 range with 50 ladders increasing order by Fibo levels depend on the last 3 candles?  definitely it takes more than 1 second for you


I don't trust trading bots. Making money while you are sleeping? I don't think so. If that was so easy then everyone in cryptocurrencies would be rich and we all know that isn't so.
Trading is demanding discipline and if you want to be successful you have to be present at the market, watch, predict, make decisions, act. Bots can't do that instead of you, they can't replace the human mind and ability to make decisions.
You can use bots for fun but not for serious trading.

You trust in betting cause they paid you bot don't trust bots who not paid-for the advertisement, like peoples in 2015 say we don't trust bitcoin or cryptocurrency.
So you don't need to use google for searching and I think you search for websites on the internet one by one because google has bots as you know, also trading bots get smarter, and now machine learning make them better.

Finally, everyone have own idea we don't force anyone to use the bot's even our bot but I can tell everyone don't gamble don't bet even on bet websites or markets

 
14  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 15, 2020, 03:13:02 PM
we don't have any negative month in our profit since Jan we officially started bot
Any proof on your performances? I just saw you have sold out up to 100 copies of your bot for discounted prices then why not ask few of your customers who are maintaining good reputation along with good rank to share their real experiences here? That must be the right way to prove your no-negative-months since January. We had seen 100s of bots were promoted here but when people start testing them here on this forum on open manner, results were not as per promised.

if anyone wants to gamble on the market our bot can not help him
This sounds like really a good approach. This makes me to think about trying your bot. But, making only 5% of capital means I guess I must need some very big money so that I may get my dream returns on regular basis. Is there options available to increase that 5% into higher levels?


You should not post continuously. You may combine like how I did on this post. Double posting may lead to temporary to permanent ban as well. Hope you take time to read forum rules from meta.
You are warned for double posting.


Sorry for more posts, we just have seen all now
you can check our youtube channel: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCp64XZSyKm57Fa_vBquvZKA
Also we publish screenshots of our 3comma portfolio on our twitter account: https://twitter.com/dephlagy

5% of wallet available balance on each position made monthly 20-60% profit for all wallet balance this is very safe and good profit for most of our customers.
We don't want risk more cause we need to keep our customers,
our subscribers with 0.2 or 0.3 BTC or higher wallet balance happy with these results but we have also some customers with 0.005 wallet balance want's from us to do magic

15  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 15, 2020, 03:05:37 PM
for others:
1-We don't say our bot is magic and double your money in 1 month, bot take positions with max 5% of the available balance of each account
2-We also trade for ourselves and it's don't have any extra cost for us to copy our trading to others accounts and make money by this feature
3-Our bot automatically detect S/R lines and Fibo levels on multi time frames also it can very fast place 100 orders for each account on 1-5 seconds to get better entry and exits Also bot operation monitor by traders some time on fake movements may bot trend detection make mistake and this correct by our traders
4-60% of our users don't know about trading strategies and they have their own business, they only want an extra income gives them higher than banks and at least a monthly 20% makes them very very happy.
5-some times like others, bot we have wrong positions but on this situation bot by placing a high amount of orders tray to improve entry and on first accumulation exit from the position by small loss or most of the time small profit
6-Also bot calculate R/R ration very faster than human traders, can place Postonly orders very fast to avoid paying a fee to exchange (bybit - BitMEX pay makers)
and many reasons bots can make extra income for everyone have other jobs, or whom emotionally decide on the market and loss.
16  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 15, 2020, 02:52:13 PM
I used to be in these AI trading bots and it really didn't work. It only works fine for the first 1-2 months and after that the system always fails and gives false signals. Quality bots must be created for more than $ 1 million, which is the real bot. In addition, normal bots in telegram groups will usually not work stably and can never be profitable for us.

if your means you are one of our customers please provide email to check and publish your account history, or email seupport@dephlagy.com  we don't have any negative month in our profit since Jan we officially started bot
17  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Make Money While You Sleep? Welcome To The World Of Crypto Trading Ai Bots on: June 15, 2020, 02:40:45 PM
Auto or Bot trading isnt something new and also i dont really like for these new popped out trading bots from nowhere whom do tell nor say that they can give out guaranteed profits on daily basis for some 1%-2% a day.
Theres no such thing about consistency or assurance on profiting on daily basis. Bots are for automation not just some sort of money making thing on where most people do have that kind of wrong perception.
Automation settings and its outcome will always vary on users capability on tweaking things basing on its trading knowledge.

Next, Do you really believe that someone will have that kind of confidence on throwing up some bucks into that address given? I would rather trust up https://www.gunbot.com/ than on this one.

We don't grantee anything but of portfolio shows everything our bot record all market movements analysis, find S/R point in multi time frames also respect Fibo levels for entry and exit of positions all of this thing monitoring by a trading team, Also we don't get into positions with 30x or 60x leverages bot always max 5% of wallet available balance to take into position or improve entry small profits 5 -6% weekly/Wallet balance but continuously.
if anyone wants to gamble on the market our bot can not help him
18  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 💻 Ai Cryptocurrency And Bitcoin Copy-Trading Bot April 2020 Results 💻 on: June 15, 2020, 01:51:42 PM


If your first 100 slots have already been filled for this month then it's probably likely your profits on your bot will take a large hit. Unless you've tried to make the strategies slightly different for each (which would be almost impossible to do)...

255$ for a potential 2x is quite attractive, if you do a version more expensive with a lower pool of participants (limited to 10 for example) then it might be an interesting thing to look at...

As said in the previous post we have many different customers, also we provide some VIP offers to higher than 2 BTC balance customers its start from 800$/monthly for this kind of account we have 3 traders always monitor trades and decide points to exit position, our bot exit positions by ladder orders but in some trades, the trader can edit this for this kind accounts to exit on max profit,

Our subscription fee usually return to subscribers (with more than 0.3 BTC wallet balance) accounts after second trade

Also, we are working on our new website we will separate this kind of deals on our new website but for now, we do it manually
19  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 💻 Ai Cryptocurrency And Bitcoin Copy-Trading Bot April 2020 Results 💻 on: June 15, 2020, 01:36:34 PM
Do you have plan to provide a vouch copy for your bot? If you are really serious about your bot and its promotions then you should consider at least providing your bot with some discounts so that people from this community will check and review your bot and then will share here; which will definitely do all the needful for your bot.

Our 100 Slot filled and this discount code not valid anymore, thanks for our users
I just see this. Probably I completely missed this promotion. How much discount were provided?
Why not you ask the people who are all using your bot may share their results here rather than you alone sharing the performance sheet of your bot.

When the review is from highly trusted member of this forum then that will definitely do big thing for your business compared to what you are doing here for months.


We have customers with different investment amounts, some are real investors and by depositing reasonable amount on their wallets want to make money from this market even monthly 30% they are happy, from Jan our monthly profit doesn't go below 60% ( it different for each customer due to date trading started on their account) our outlook is mid-term to short term also we publish customers exchange account videos and shots of our trading servers on youtube and twitter, but as you now many people don't like to share the amount of their investment for that we only share whole accounts portfolio on 3comma.
 Also after our partnership with 3comma, we increase a bit our prices but we have some promotions like 30% also we keep active until this week https://twitter.com/dephlagy/status/1271410273728036864.
20  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: 💻 Ai Cryptocurrency And Bitcoin Copy-Trading Bot April 2020 Results 💻 on: June 10, 2020, 03:57:12 PM







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