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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Ziber - Revolutionary Blockchain Platform for IP-telephony on: July 08, 2017, 03:37:06 PM
When we can get mobile app?
2  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone Random Trademarked "bitcoin" : Now we can't use the term? on: July 07, 2011, 01:11:48 PM
maybe we can just avoid all this nonsense - change the name - and do it right this time.

Bah. Honestly it would be seriously counter to the spirit of Bitcoin if we trademarked the name. No one person should hold licensing rights to a decentralized currency that we all helped build.

I agree.  The Apache folks created a foundation to hold some of their trademarks and such but it just rubs me the wrong way as bitcoin should remain as OS and decentralized as possible.

I'm still of the opinion that the trademark will not stand as bitcoin was already in common use well before this guy tried to TM it.
3  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone Random Trademarked "bitcoin" : Now we can't use the term? on: July 06, 2011, 06:46:35 PM
LOL, sadly I'm not familiar with the Bezos thing. It sounds like a riot though.  And yea, the primary concern is not so much the legitimacy of this app but the potential troubles it could cause for the valid 'owners' of Bitcoin.

  Which, brings to mind some other questions. In order to avoid other app ninjas in the future both trademark and patent wise, is there a way to trademark/patent
Bitcoin in a way the limits the amount of control the US gov would have over it?
I.e possible to register it as a community project and still be afforded the same protections? Maybe reg as  aco-op type deal?
I am completely lost at that point. Will give a close business attorney friend of mine a call and see if he has any insight.

Bezos did the controversial 1-click patent on behalf of Amazon for something which was commonly in use at the time which was the use of a web browser and a cookie to facilitate online sales transactions irrespective of how many clicky it took one to get to their cart.

There is seemingly no limit that the US gov has when concerned with commerce under the Commerce Clause within the US.  I say this not tongue in cheek but with an eye toward the types of decisions that the Fed has permitted itself under the Commerce Clause.

IMHO the limiting factor for the US gov concerning Bitcoin is the design of the P2P currency itself and it's usage across the .net.  The design itself is limiting to the amount of oversight that can be exerted over the usage of the currency.  

4  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone Random Trademarked "bitcoin" : Now we can't use the term? on: July 06, 2011, 06:25:41 PM
The trademark is invalid.  Bitcoin is covered within the MIT License and the term 'Bitcoin' is used extensively within the software covered by the license.  First use and all that.  

One could easily argue that the this nob polisher's use of the term Bitcoin in any commercial enterprise would be confusing.

This is a fail even if Jeff Bezos tried it.  

You are very correct, and one would trust this would be discovered in the course of due diligence in the processing of such an application.
However, we have the capacity to present such facts before hand to stop it before it even reaches that point.
Just in case...

No doubt.  If by chance the .gov didn't find it and provided the TM it will save us legal troubles down the road when this guy pulls a Bezos and sues everybody that ever used an HTTPSession Cookie for 'buying' stuff on the webz with a 'single click'!!!! 
5  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Someone Random Trademarked "bitcoin" : Now we can't use the term? on: July 06, 2011, 06:17:01 PM
The trademark is invalid.  Bitcoin is covered within the MIT License and the term 'Bitcoin' is used extensively within the software covered by the license.  First use and all that.  

One could easily argue that the this nob polisher's use of the term Bitcoin in any commercial enterprise would be confusing.

This is a fail even if Jeff Bezos tried it.  
6  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Al jazeera English showing Bitcoin piece in regular news rotation on: July 05, 2011, 07:00:22 PM
How crazy is it that the best / non-biased cabal news sources for the US is from Al Jazeera and Russia Times?  

It's fun being an American.  We are literally treated like mushrooms ~ kept in the dark and fed a steady diet of shite.
7  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: As Predicted on: July 05, 2011, 06:55:45 PM

Bitcoin don't give a shit.


Bitcoin is the Honey Badger of digital currencies.... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4r7wHMg5Yjg
8  Bitcoin / Mining support / Re: 5850 underclocking itself on: June 24, 2011, 08:53:14 PM
I'm just going to guess this is a windows machine as you said it was also a gaming machine.

If that's the case have you checked the power plan settings in the Control Panel (win 7)?  This happened on a notebook with a mobility 5850 in that the OS would downclock the chip.  Def apples to oranges but the desktop ver of Win 7 should still have the Power Plan settings that can be adjusted.

Under the Power Plan settings set to High Performance and then click the Advanced link and make sure the ATI Graphics Power Settings are set to Maximize Performance.

I also set the screen saver to none, not blank but none.
9  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Hardcore libertarians: explain your anti-IP-rights position to me. on: June 23, 2011, 11:23:14 PM
Why not go somewhere focused on the subject or read Kinesella's book http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000003082

http://www.againstmonopoly.org/index.php?perm=593056000000001487

10  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: NEW WORLD ECONOMY - PART TWO on: June 23, 2011, 08:46:31 PM
Man I said I wouldn't comment on this as it has a little of the 'Workers of the World Unite' type of fluff but I like your enthusiasm.

So you mentioned the usage of the Internet and later focused to the web.  There are so many other actors and roles using the network itself over TCP using differing protocols to exchange all types of data to aid in commerce, GIS, medicine, etc. So I don't really see where you are going with this because the premise seems thin.

Regarding this post you are basically describing the market place where two or more individuals enter into a mutually beneficial exchange.  Adam Smith's Invisible Hand if you will.  Regarding changing the system which is a statist/collectivist system which favors centralization and politically connected players the question is perhaps as old as time.  It is a questions of the struggle between those that would control others and those that favor freedom and liberty.  

From a practical standpoint changing the balance between centralized control systems and individual liberty can be done in many ways, toward one end of the spectrum and back again.  One way is of course changing who controls the currency and here we are.

Focusing on the practical uptake of BTC or a P2P economy is perhaps where the loin's share of intellectual capital should be spent because philosophically most people here will agree with your underlying premise of which I believe is how to change/influence how currency systems currently operate (I could have misunderstood your main thrust though and I apologize if that's the case).

At the end of the day there are two ways that are commonly used to solve the challenges of the allocation of scare resources.  They are either economic or they are political in nature.  One requires choice and the other requires force.  
11  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: 1 Lancair flights for 5 BTC on: June 23, 2011, 08:22:38 PM
OMG I would so take this offer if It was not a 6hr. flight from here. That is such a cool little aircraft.

It is definitely a fun airplane to fly.
12  Other / Beginners & Help / 1 Lancair flights for 5 BTC on: June 23, 2011, 06:42:07 PM
I live in South Florida.  If you live here or are visiting and would like to take an hour flight in a high performance Lancair 360 I will offer the ride for 5 btc.  You can do all the flying you feel comfortable with after take off and prior to landing.

The Lancair 360 is a two passenger aircraft so only one passenger at a time besides the pilot (me).

Keep the blue side up.
13  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: What the Early Adoptors Don't want you to know on: June 23, 2011, 06:29:38 PM
The seen and the unseen.

Let's say that we take the OP suggestion that btc's design creates or created an unfair distribution.  I ask the following with no malice intended and am just interested to know what an alternative might look like.

What would an alternative cryptocurrency look like and how would interest in such a currency be promulgated?

Let's say further that this cryptocurrency was introduced with a finite supply.  How would it be distributed with a subjective fairness or otherwise?  How would interest be generated for use by users, merchants, speculators, market exchanges, etc.?

Don't forget that this is new and has never been tried.  The design in and of itself whereby people mine to bring the currency units into existence builds interest in and of itself.  That is IMO brilliant.  Then the market makers follow providing liquidity and then hopefully more minds are focused on the challenges to make this useful in POS systems, online sales, gaming, etc.

The fact that I can accept a payment wile vacationing in Vietnam by somebody working on a ship crossing the Indian Ocean while my wallet is on a USB stick in a safe in Mexico City and then confirm the transaction online is simply mind blowing.  

Also this endeavor must be compared against the use of fiat currency which are at this time the most widely used tool for commerce .  This is somewhat philosophical but so was the original question.  Centrally controlled inflationary currencies are the single most criminal and destructive thing to be wielded against individuals throughout time other than outright murder.  They steal purchasing power over time in a hidden manner while reducing the ability for participants to effectively plan how to allocate assets and time thus throwing a wrench into the works of civilization itself and its progress.  Once the distribution of coins evens out over time this type of thing will seemingly become nonexistent.  

With regard to the benefits or detriments to fractional reserve banking I have not read the threads on btc and the impact to fractional reserve banking or lending in particular.  



14  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do I find my wallet? on: June 22, 2011, 09:05:30 PM
~ is a shortcut for your home directory or home directory of your currently logged in session.

if you open a terminal and type > cd ~

you will end up in your home directory.
15  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How do I find my wallet? on: June 22, 2011, 08:05:43 PM
Winderz

c:\users\<user>\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin

*Nix

~/.bitcoin

Apple ][

Insert 5.25" disk ......
16  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Bitcoin Businesses and Developers, Let's Get Started! on: June 22, 2011, 07:57:19 PM
I am in the process of getting an online pet store up and running (www . luckyandjinx . com) and I would very much like to participate in the thread re: BTC Meganto plugin so that we can offer goods and services for btc. 

The site is up but not released to the public yet.

I am currently mining with a 5850 and am familiar with the concepts of BTC, forum etiquette, etc and am a Java and c# developer with over a decade of experience.

Please white list my account.

 
17  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Whitelist Requests (Want out of here?) on: June 21, 2011, 10:58:53 PM
My current setup is mining with a 5850 stock using DiabloMiner and eligius.

I also have a pretty firm grasp on technology in general being a longtime software developer.

I'm passionate about all things that fall within the realm of Austrian Economics, AnCap and Agorist philosophy and technology that can be deemed disruptive which I believe BitCoin is. 

Requesting to please be allowed to post in the general forums
18  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much systemic risk in BTC? on: June 21, 2011, 08:23:05 PM
For myself bitcoins has many problems.

1. who and how makes the decision about the wallet software.
2. there are to many people with a to big amount % of bitcoins. They can crash with a sell of 350.000 the whole currency.
3. how i can build a business on a currency which isn't stabilized.

that so far

1) The software is open source and anybody can view the source.  You can commit to it here https://github.com/bitcoin/bitcoin If your contribution is useful it might be included in the main branch or you could simply decide to use your own branch or write something from scratch.  Short answer: You decide Smiley

2) Possibly but that will hopefully even out over time as more people/entities accept BTC for payment and more btc are 'discovered'.

3) See number 2.  It is new and as such will have certain risks which is often the case with new ideas/technology.  The risks are high but perhaps the potential rewards of being an early adopter are high (only you can determine that - which is the beauty of such a thing).  Your point is a valid one given that a lack of predictability of btc value (relative to other currencies) makes it hard to evaluate business decisions.  Present participants in the US dollar climate are also finding the same lake of predictability (due to inflation, tax, regulation - planned regulation, etc).    

You are asking the right questions but give it time.

Finally given what history depicts happens to all fiat currencies vs a system that has a finite supply of currency units, where do you think the long term trends will lead when comparing the two types of currencies and why?  Hmmmmmm.


19  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: How much systemic risk in BTC? on: June 21, 2011, 07:58:07 PM
Heard the same rationale during the tech bubble.  Bitcon is growing due to speculation, pure and simple.  Those who got in early have ridden the bubble up, hopefully exiting before the burst, what you have now are all the fool lemmings following in their footsteps trying to make an easy buck only to watch their profits go bye bye.

But there are some enduring technologies as well as notable companies that came from the tech boom.

I believe that the same can be said for Bitcoin.  Even if Bitcoin itself does not make it, the idea of a P2P currency concept like BitCoin is probably going to impact the world in significant ways that we cannot predict at present.  

Also aspects of Bitcoin may fail while others survive and become more robust (certain exchanges, certain business ventures, client software, etc).

And the systemic risk argument has been beaten to death.  The BitCoin block-chain has never been compromised.  

Regarding making a quick buck by mining and speculation that was probably a necessary side effect of the design such that there would be a way to provide value for growing the btc base.  That is simply brilliant.

IMHO the biggest risk is a lack of acceptance for BTC in trade vs some type of systemic technological risk.
20  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Deflation: Wage rates and the employee VS the Employer on: June 21, 2011, 07:32:45 PM
"I am asking if job stability would suffer in a deflationary economy."?

Since it is a very general question I'll venture a general answer.

No.

All things being equal "I" would have to assume that this economy was based on a stable and mature monetary system with no centrally controlled inflationary mechanism (btc of 2017).  Given that I believe that said economy would lead to a much higher level of predictability for participants over the long term.

So companies would figure out ways to keep valuable employees given your example of deflation at a steady and given percentage.  Some methods; Contracting on a yearly basis (with the ability to adjust terms with the new year's contract) is one method, contracting + profit sharing, exchanging ownership for lower wages (options). etc, etc, etc.

And as mentioned in another post if wages are going down across a given industry and job skill set, the employee is likely to take the lower/current market salary (at the present job) as the market overall will not offer his/her present salary (all other things being equal as well as the receptionist having specific unique skill sets).
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