For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets. Lawsuit is a normal thing as this business may concern because I don't see anything wrong for a company to have a lawsuit or a matter in the court. Same thing happens when stake was taken to court and many were think of reducing the rate at which they make bets on the platform.
Lawsuit is not common in online casino because the only way customer will file a lawsuit is when he is confident enough to his case. Exactly, especially when the lawyer taking the case is a very well known lawyer. What common instances is casino always have an active scam accusation in the forum.
In instances where you have some scammers like FortuneJack who think they're smarter than God Himself. So if the casino has a an active lawsuit therefore something is really wrong.
Exactly, but it depends. If the casino has an active lawsuit because it is not paying winnings, then yes something is really wrong. But you don't have to go that far to say something is really wrong. Just check the link in my original post, and see for yourself. You don't need a judge to say this is theft, but I guess I'll have to take it to the judge. PS: Up to this day, no one seems to have contacted FortuneJack to know if this is true or not, especially among those who doubt what I say. Hey you guys who are doubting, where are you? Have you seen for yourself if this is true or not? |
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For a gambling platform to have a lawsuit does not mean that the casino is not good for other gamblers to use and make bets.
No wonder coming from someone like you who supports 1xbit.com, so of course scamming some gamblers doesn't mean that it is not good for other gamblers, seems logic. OP should at least having the time on telling the public on whats happening so that discussions and speculations would be stopped into this thread and would move on.
There is no need to speculate, once the legal side is settled, I will come here and post what the result was. But there is someone for sure who can come here and comment and end speculations right now about what's happening, it's @FortuneJack. Seems like he doesn't want to. |
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May be i missed, but have you any information when the court will show their decision?
I am not giving details about the lawsuit, but even if I had information, a lot of the times the judgement can be postponed. As an example, the appeal court decision I have talked about in my original post has been postponed about 6 times, each time postponed for one month... I understand this situation and i don`t ask any private information. But i think it would be correct to inform the members about the result. I think that information about appeals not so value, but the result decision of the court we must know. And it doesn`t matter who will win - if you decided to move to the court we have to believe their decision. Sure no problem, once this issue is settled from the legal side, I will be giving all the information. I will be posting it here in this thread. Of course all of us (including FortuneJack and me) should accept the decision whatever it may be. I think the Op has provided evidence in his thread of accusations and this is still a pro and con when from FJ's side there is no answer yet and everything will be proven for example an FJ representative co-wrote a reply in this thread and makes it all clear who is right and who is wrong.
Yeah that's what I said many times, let the FortuneJack representative come here and say if this is true or not. |
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Guys, just ask FortuneJack, let's see what they say, right?
I don't think they are going to respond to your bold claims in this thread frankly speaking. Why not? Some here seem to be interested in this subject, so they might just try and ask. You might as well try asking Sir Hhampuz. 2.Almost every major company has to deal with one or more lawsuits. This is something normal in the business world.
What reputable online casino has a lawsuit for not paying winnings? In Curacao it happened before "due to terms and conditions", and they paid a much higher price with lawsuits. Some of them flew from Curacao and it was their regulator who had to pay the price. May be i missed, but have you any information when the court will show their decision?
I am not giving details about the lawsuit, but even if I had information, a lot of the times the judgement can be postponed. As an example, the appeal court decision I have talked about in my original post has been postponed about 6 times, each time postponed for one month... "I think this post is worth reading".
Why you think it is worth reading? |
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PS. I don`t think that FJ will lose lots of their gamblers. The most part even don`t know about this situation i think.
Maybe, but they should know. Seeing on the link given it was indeed already 2 years ago but it turns out to be still that unresolved?
Sometimes lawsuits take time, especially if FortuneJack has chosen the slowest lawyer in the country. But no problem I'd consider I've loaned them the money and they would pay for the interest. It's been more than a week that I've posted this. A lot of people came here, interested about this subject, some said they will discover for themselves, some said this is FUD, but we haven't heard since then from any of them what is the truth. Guys, just ask FortuneJack, let's see what they say, right? |
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But I would understand those people who would already avoid this gambling platform simply because of the impression this instance have created wherein it even resulted into a lawsuit than to be solved internally IF the accusation is true.
Of course... You want someone to pay out when accepting bets right? In our country, this is the pressumption of Innocence. But I would understand those people who would already avoid this gambling platform simply because of the impression this instance have created wherein it even resulted into a lawsuit than to be solved internally IF the accusation is true.
Which country? Any platform accepting bets and refusing to pay is a scam, that simple. Add to it deleting a player's betting history... |
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OP I can't answer your question for sure, but I must think about something that happened recently in Curacao, on the 14th of last march, that concerns their casinos, and that never happened before (from the legal side). I talked about it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449674.0Maybe there's a logical connection between the decision on the 14th of march and what's happening now, chronologically seems coherent. |
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[...]but not sharing any evidence of your ongoing lawsuit is just weird op [...] and your messed up attitude aren't doing you any favours op. Think!
Thank you for pointing this out. Could you please explain what favours am I missing out on? @Haunebu no answer? Seems I am not missing out on anything. Whether what the OP said is right or wrong, we have to find out all the information ourselves so that there are no misunderstandings.
Ok me and others here are waiting for you when you find all the information yourself, please keep us posted. Any news @tusandii? Have you found out? A lot of the posters here just came up and posted without making any interactions with others.... there is no such thing as caught in the act when it comes to online gambling casinos
Well, they've been caught deleting my betting history, little by little, since it was unthinkable for them that I was screen recording everything on my account (which I was). This is not something a honest organisation would do to say the least. |
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I do not know what FortuneJack terms and conditions state about jurisdiction therefore if your lawsuit is proceeding, which country will it take place in and do you have a date for the hearing?
It takes place in Curacao. I am not giving any details on the lawsuit (for now), but for sure there are legal proceedings ongoing. You're one of the very few respectable members here (even if you did not support my flag), nice to see you're still out there. |
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FortuneJack has been around for many years, so it is strange that these things are only being reported now. I have used Google to see if there are a lot of scam accusations against them, but there are not significant complaints to justify a "scam" label.  You can see this report about another case here: https://www.cryptoinfowatch.com/fortunejack-when-gambling-houses-wont-pay-winnings/No they're not scam for most people, but I know for a fact that they scammed me. You are not really giving a lot of information on the lawsuit, so I cannot judge this scenario ...based on the evidence that are being provided. Do you think a long lawsuit will cost you more than the money that are owned to you?
No worries, the lawsuit fees are sponsored by FortuneJack, or if they run away by AntillePhone, their regulator. |
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What ever is happening to any casino has nothing to do with the user managing their campaign.
The campaign manager is only providing a service which he or she is hired and paid to provide, how the casino itself is being managed, the decisions that are being taken, things that are implemented or not implemented, is non the campaign managers business..
I understand. It's not in the sense that this is their job to do that, their job is only to do what they are paid for I guess, and that is to promote them. Although not all people work the same way. Some as an example have some consciousness and reputation that they don't like promoting bad actors for money. And since many here were saying what I claim is false, I suggest that the members of the community who are campaign managers might want to ask FortuneJack to see if it's true or not. Just a suggestion. The problem is FortuneJack won't be able to lie since they can't hide it. It happened before once though when they deleted my betting history thinking I haven't taken any evidence. |
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I just had a wager cancelled, after it had already won. I placed a wager on soccer Turkey Super League 4/24 Fenerbahce - Istanbulspor I had Fenerbahce first half. I placed the wager live at the 8 minute mark. I got odds of 1.39. Pre match odds were around 1.44. They are trying to tell me “Bet was accepted with wrong odds, it was the error of the system, this bet should have never been accepted in the first place. Therefore it got returned,” The odds were fine. No goal was scored until the 25th minute. They refuse to show any proof that their numbers were off. Plus they didn’t even cancel the wager until 10 minutes after half time came. Below is a link showing prematch odds. Is there anyone that can help me? You can see their first half is -187 https://www.sofascore.com/istanbulspor-fenerbahce/clbsqlbBet id is 08566345 You're not the only to have his bets cancelled after a win with this "sports betting website". Check this out: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5449674.0 |
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I stopped playing at FortuneJack on February 19, 2018. I found my thread from that time... Not a huge problem, but their support was horrible, and after that "incident" with slots I stopped playing and I never visited FJ again. I found much better casinos around, and I still think that some other casinos are better than FJ.
As Notblox1 I will not say that FJ is a scam, they had a good start, but something in their "relationship" with us players went sideways. I don't have any plans to try them again...
Depends on how you define "a scam". If it's an organisation that always scams, of course not, FortuneJack is not a scam. If a scammer is someone who sometimes scams, sometimes not, then yes they're a scam. But for most people I have to agree they're not a scam yet. |
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You are just using this thread to gain sympathy and use people that will believe you to question FJ integrity for a chance that they will reach you for settlement.
Lol really, please have sympathy, please give me a chance. I've already said it, and I'm not a shitposter: I don't settle anything with thieves. They'll have to pay, willingly or unwillingly, all my winnings, at the same value they were on the day I won, + interest rate + legal fees, at least. |
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If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.
Of course... But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any? Of what use is it asking FortuneJack anything? Even if all that you said here is true, as long as it is not in the public media yet, I am 100 percent sure that FortuneJack won't divulge any of this information to their customers at all level, as they already know that this could cause panic, and their business will suffer greatly, for no doubt, they will lose customers. If someone says this is FUD, then he should be asking FortuneJack if this is true or not beforehand. Me personally I've never lied here and never called anybody a liar in vain. So what even if their business suffers, it's for the greater good of everyone else. Some people here said they want to discover for themselves so go ahead and ask. They won't be ignoring their campaign managers are they? And I am not trying to save every customer of FortuneJack. We've seen casinos run away from their license countries before. Just the ones who believe me and deserve it. For me, no problem, it's going to be their regulator who will pay if that would be the case. |
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If casinos decide to not pay as they think the law would not enforce them, people like OP posting here about it and if found to be true are a real danger for these casinos as people will migrate to other casinos who can pay that amount without questions asked,a win is a win at whatever amount it may be as long as is valid and the player has not cheated the casino.
Of course... But for the other people there, hey, what about asking FortuneJack? Perhaps by luck they can tell you what's the truth. Why waste energy asking me for evidence since I said I won't (for the time being) give any? And for sure I won't because some people here ask lol. |
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Checked your scam accusation which did seem legit
Are you sure? then you might want support the flag https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;u=303298;page=iflags[...]but not sharing any evidence of your ongoing lawsuit is just weird op [...] and your messed up attitude aren't doing you any favours op. Think!
Thank you for pointing this out. Could you please explain what favours am I missing out on? |
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I think if you say always be careful and use small amounts of money in FJ, it's only one-sided thinking.
How funny is this. Are these real humans or bots? I thought at some point there should be a CaptCha when posting to verify that every post has a human behind it. I am not seeing any of this when posting myself. |
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Whether what the OP said is right or wrong, we have to find out all the information ourselves so that there are no misunderstandings.
Ok me and others here are waiting for you when you find all the information yourself, please keep us posted. |
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He already has two threads against Fortunejack he even offers to pay people just by supporting the flag
Once a liar, always a liar. FortuneJack are as much reputable as this individual, and that is pretty much most "reputable" members here. The bitcointalk community is one of most dishonest out there. Thieves and liars. They're making money out of promoting scams, from third world countries, pretty much the same mentality that made those third world countries, and they deserve to be living there. This thread is made though for some readers, I just don't care about most members here. |
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