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1661  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: December 01, 2011, 12:53:10 PM
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Ambitious Decentralized Projects That Aim to Create a Better Internet

Chinmoy Kanjilal
2011-11-30

http://techie-buzz.com/foss/decentralized-project-bitcoin-darknet-yacy-internet.html?tb_spage=true
1662  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $500 — Butterflylabs, is it a scam? on: December 01, 2011, 07:29:23 AM
I would have thought he would have been back too but things happen...

Yes, like being locked in a room while guys with baseball bats 'persuade' you to tweet/post glowing reports to your 'investors'.

The address given 'Chambers Lofts' in Kansas City has a primary use of 'Residential'.  Not the address I'd expect from an outfit that is currently claiming on it's site to be hiring 2 engineers and a communications director.

Going alone to meet suspected scammers isn't something I'd do in a hurry.
Don't leave it too long before calling the cops.


1663  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: December 01, 2011, 05:42:36 AM
A blogger gives a fairly thorough 6 part series on how Bitcoin works

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1664  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: [TECHDIRT] The Rise And Fall Of Bitcoin... But Is It Really Over Yet? on: December 01, 2011, 04:39:53 AM
save the day like SolidCoin

ROFL.
Welcome back you jokester!

Actually support for that diseased hogwash shows there is a bigger niche than people realize - cryptocurrencies for those who won't understand the value of decentralization, and prefer to put faith in the marketing machinations of a "Dear Leader".
SolidCoin is Solid in just the sort of way the Democratic Republic of North Korea is Democratic.
Those handcuffs don't feel so bad when they're covered in the pink fluff of marketing.. in fact BCP rather enjoys them.. and CoinHunter *promises* he won't hurt you! Wink
1665  Other / Off-topic / Re: 1GH/s, 20w, $500 — Butterflylabs, is it a scam? on: November 30, 2011, 07:24:10 PM
We plan on meeting at 16:00 ... I have some other engagements afterwards, so I won't be able to post in regard to it until mid-evening time CST when I get home.


Stay safe..  They only need to kidnap you for about 24hrs whilst forcing you to post glowing reports, and they'll rake it in Wink
1666  Economy / Speculation / Re: Is the price slowly climbing? on: November 30, 2011, 05:22:41 PM
Look at all the ask volume filling right back in.

Similarly on the other side - I've been watching the bid-ghostlines re-solidifying.  I guess both buyers and sellers are happily trickling in their hidden liquidity.
Who will run out first?
1667  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: November 30, 2011, 11:58:57 AM
Well back to the topic..  even if this show does hit millions of eyeballs, I'm not expecting that to translate to sudden Bitcoin interest.

Judging by the casting notes - it looks like Bitcoin will be covered as some sort of shady,risky,illegal thing.
Is there an uptick in cocaine use when a major TV crime show features cops and lawyers chasing users?
I'm guessing not, and similarly - I don't expect this to bring the hordes to bitcoin.

It might get a few people intrigued, or at least make them more likely to read when they later come across the word bitcoin online, so in a way it's still a good bit of publicity (I hope!)



If .0001% knew about cocaine a show about it would probably increase use by 10x.

Probably many will think it's a made up for the show thing. Later they'll be like "wait what, that's real what am I missing?"

Yeah.. well honestly I don't know what to expect.  Perhaps cocaine was a bad example - maybe better would be some new designer drug X that nobody has heard of. I don't think it'd make people suddenly hunt for that, except for a few people already into drugs. So maybe this show will just push a few more of the IT savvy people towards bitcoin.
I recently encountered a young bloke studying IT at university who'd never heard of it - so the awareness is still pretty patchy despite all the coverage. What really pushes people towards something is if your peers are using it.

1668  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: November 30, 2011, 11:22:30 AM
Well back to the topic..  even if this show does hit millions of eyeballs, I'm not expecting that to translate to sudden Bitcoin interest.

Judging by the casting notes - it looks like Bitcoin will be covered as some sort of shady,risky,illegal thing.
Is there an uptick in cocaine use when a major TV crime show features cops and lawyers chasing users?
I'm guessing not, and similarly - I don't expect this to bring the hordes to bitcoin.

It might get a few people intrigued, or at least make them more likely to read when they later come across the word bitcoin online, so in a way it's still a good bit of publicity (I hope!)

1669  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: November 30, 2011, 11:09:19 AM

10 000 is to high, maybe 1000 is to low, but as I see it at this high inflation environment Bitcoin needs at least 3000-4000 active users to sustain the price at this levels.



Looks like at least 5Million page views in November -   take 5M / 1K people - you'd get an average of 5500 page views per person.  Now sure - some people do a lot of clicking around in a forum - but I don't think an average of 5500 per person is anywhere near reasonable.   10K people and 550 page views per person on average?  Well I'm still guessing wildly - but it passes my sniff test a bit better.

(and I guess there would be a number of hits from non forum members of course)

I think at least 3000-4000 active users is *easily* what we have now.


It would be interesting if someone could show that number, total active users the last month.

Agreed.. I hope someone has a better estimate.
1670  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: November 30, 2011, 10:58:52 AM
Ok, lets say 800, or even 1000. 1000 active members, that is still not that of a big number if you think about the inflation numbers, it is 7500 USD/person for a year ((7200 x 2,86 x 365) / 1000). I don't think that the average user will put that type of USD in to the Bitcoin Economy per year. As an example this thread have 600 users looking at it for the last two days.

I agree in general with your sentiment that there are a lot of new coins available for a relatively small number of people - but I suspect your idea of 'active members' is on the low side.

There were over 1900 new members this month - plus I would guess a fair few thousand existing members who check in at least a few times during the month.

There have been over 200K page views per day for many days this month.
You can't look at the 'average page views per day' figure in the general statistics - as it presumably calculates for the entire period the forum has been running - and many of the older values are zeroed.

Anyway - I don't know what the real figure for how many 'active users' there are of the forum - but I strongly suspect it's more like 10K or more.  
1K sounds way too low based on the available forum stats.

1671  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: November 30, 2011, 10:33:40 AM
... a pretty big sum with the Bitcoin community that have around 400 active users (top number for this month) on its biggest forum.

That would be 400+ online *at one time*  - not the total active for the month.
1672  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Is Satoshi going to appear in The Good Wife? on: November 30, 2011, 06:46:04 AM
Already a thread for this:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=53235.0


c'mon people - 'search' is not that hard.  In this case the other thread is still on the same page!
1673  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The Week in Bitcoin on: November 30, 2011, 06:37:13 AM
We at Coinlab are producing a weekly round-up of the most interesting Bitcoin news and stories we find.  Thought some of you guys might find it useful as well.  Did we miss something good? Email your most interesting stories to chris [at] coinlab.com

Gosh.. not only do you pimp your own boring interest in a controversial(scam?) hardware investment, you don't even mention the Bitcoin conference in Prague?

No mention of the Fox News TV story?

Also - Rick Falkvinge named in 'Top 100 Global Thinkers' list by ForeignPolicy magazine - partly because of his Bitcoin evangelism


Yes - you are missing the interesting stuff about Bitcoin. Perhaps because you're being too self-important?

First 2 entries start..
"Coinlabs..."

Really?   You dare call it "A round-up of the most interesting Bitcoin news and stories" Huh
Interesting to you - the self absorbed.

Nevertheless - in the interests of helping out - let me point you to a thread that's been in front of your nose the whole time:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1958.1640

Edit: You guys even made that thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1958.msg542340;topicseen#msg542340


1674  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: November 30, 2011, 06:06:41 AM
This is quite a high profile hit!
Congrats to Rick Falkvinge.

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Special Report

The FP Top 100 Global Thinkers
Foreign Policy presents a unique portrait of 2011's global marketplace of ideas and the thinkers who make them.


December 2011 (published 2011-11)


http://www.foreignpolicy.com/articles/2011/11/28/the_fp_top_100_global_thinkers?page=full



98 Rick Falkvinge
For taking pirates into politics
Founder, Pirate Party | Sweden

"It's more fun to be a pirate than to join the navy," the late Steve Jobs once said. No one had to tell Rick Falkvinge, founder and chief evangelist of the growing global Pirate Party movement. A former software entrepreneur and Microsoft employee, Falkvinge founded the original party in Sweden in 2006. It rose to prominence following a government crackdown on the Pirate Bay file-sharing site, and Pirate parties are now active in more than 25 countries.

Indeed, 2011 may be remembered as the year Falkvinge's big idea broke through into the public consciousness. His Pirates still aren't exactly mainstream, but the issues they focus on -- government transparency, Internet privacy, and copyright law -- are very much in the zeitgeist, and their ranks are growing. The Swedish and Swiss Pirate parties have aided WikiLeaks, offering the controversial site server space and web hosting; a self-described Pirate Party activist was named secretary of youth and sports in Tunisia's revolutionary cabinet; and in September, the Pirates won a shocking 8.9 percent of the vote in Berlin's state elections.

Falkvinge also made Internet waves this year with his high-profile advocacy of Bitcoin, a digital currency that is either the future of global commerce or a high-tech form of money laundering -- depending on whom you ask.

...

Best idea
Bitcoin. Distributed cryptocurrency will change the economic game entirely, wrestling financial power from banks and governments.




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Swedish Pirate Party founder named a ‘Top 100 Global Thinker’

Justin Massoud
2011-11-29

http://www.myce.com/news/swedish-pirate-party-founder-named-a-top-100-global-thinker-55176/


Falkvinge made the cut thanks to his staunch advocacy of controversial p2p transaction system BitCoin and “for taking pirates into politics.”

1675  Economy / Speculation / Re: Manipulator is back on: November 30, 2011, 02:55:34 AM
Not a glitch, someone genuinely has over $36Billion USD on deposit with mtgox and they're about to make you rich Wink

(coz that's just the kind of fantasy that flies around here!)


1676  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: November 30, 2011, 01:37:57 AM
SCPR - Southern California Public Radio

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Bitcoin: Who needs the almighty dollar after all?

Matthew DeBord
2011-11-29?

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/economy/2011/11/29/3906/bitcoin-who-needs-almighty-dollar-after-all/

"In this way, I think it's illiquidity waiting to happen. And of course illiquidity did doom Bitcoin 1.0.

Any future version that actually works would have to solve this problem. Probably by striking a compromise between distributed and centrally managed value."
1677  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: November 29, 2011, 05:23:52 PM
Seriously?
This is awesome if it's real!

Yeah.. I'm not sure if it's real.  I don't know how that site works, it could be a post by a random fan for all I know.
I'm hoping someone can shed some light.
1678  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin in tv show -The Good Wife - Episode 3.13 - Finding Mr. Bitcoin on: November 29, 2011, 05:15:27 PM
I know nothing about this show..  but sounds cool!

http://www.spoilertv.com/2011/11/good-wife-episode-313-finding-mr.html
1679  Bitcoin / Press / Re: Bitcoin press hits, notable sources on: November 29, 2011, 06:33:24 AM
Some more meta-articles on the recent Wired piece.

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The Rise And Fall Of Bitcoin... But Is It Really Over Yet?
from the not-quite dept

Mike Masnick
2011-11-28

http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20111128/03295016910/rise-fall-bitcoin-is-it-really-over-yet.shtml


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1680  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bruce Wagner and Wired.. on: November 28, 2011, 07:49:44 PM

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TLDR;  some hot(?) buttcoin fan-fiction.



The more you sling theoretical mud like this - the less likely the real mud will stick.
The real mud is the Bold Funding sliminess.

Save the cheese-o-drama scripts of paranoid MyBitcoin scenarios featuring your favourite villain for your pitch to the movie moguls.


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