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181  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] eMunie: Some general news and 100% Anonymity on: August 11, 2013, 08:39:48 PM
Your problem is the aggression in your pursuit of answers to these questions, which comes across as acute arrogance and a disrespectful attitude. Both of which I have no patience for.

I gave up that pursuit. You've made it clear that it will bear no fruit by not bothering to respond on your board to some simple, direct questions--this was after encouragement from the emunies to post there.

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The proof is in the pudding so to speak, but that pudding isn't ready yet, so calling bluff on something unfinished is just childish.  That not being your intention matters not, as your execution of it is what causes friction and disgruntlement.

I haven't called your bluff on anything. I came here to respond only to those who think that this post somehow answers an unanswered question. It is, however, an ongoing trollfest at this point and I will end it here. The mentions of prior art was a touch over-dramatic, but I did recall the first thread I linked to offhand. Wink
182  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] eMunie: Some general news and 100% Anonymity on: August 11, 2013, 08:09:14 PM
Last time I checked transmission was different to encryption.  Encryption was only the part of it.

omg statements like these... How is this in any way a response to what I said? It doesn't even mean anything.

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I've never attacked anything of yours, your decrits idea is not a bad one, and yet you seem to be hell bent on criticizing me and my work. I aspire to be professional at all times but tbh I'm getting quite royally fucked off with it.

Right, criticizing meaning: I asked questions in the initial thread about the security model that are unanswered to this day, and someone asked me to provide thoughts on emunie in my thread to which your puppet army took to task. And the only reason I posted in this thread, because it once again is meaningless if your security model is inept, is because puppet #1 just had to send a pm going "look, it's secure!" when this is clearly no network security model.

The major questions of emunie's viability remain unanswered, thus any proposed bells and whistles are uninteresting. There is nothing for me to criticize except the lack of detail.
183  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] eMunie: Some general news and 100% Anonymity on: August 11, 2013, 05:14:45 PM
Whatever, it's hard to take you seriously when you bring up a bad implementation of ECDSA as evidence of a problem with ECDSA. I am always open to learning more about cryptography, but coming out of the blue with implied theoretical attacks requires a bit of exposition, don't you think?
184  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] eMunie: Some general news and 100% Anonymity on: August 11, 2013, 04:16:30 PM
There is no "key wear" problem with ECDSA as long as k is random
Is your opinion based on your own research?

Actually, I am partially incorrect, it should be (apparently) as long as k is chosen carefully.

Piss-poor implementations of ECDSA such as the thread you linked to earlier is hardly evidence of a problem of key wearing.
185  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] eMunie: Some general news and 100% Anonymity on: August 11, 2013, 02:29:59 PM
So "Looks like key wearing problem is solved by eMunie, be it intentionally or accidentally" is VERY intentional. Cheesy

There is no "key wear" problem with ECDSA as long as k is random, so it's rather odd that you've fixed a vulnerability that doesn't exist.
186  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [NEWS] eMunie: Some general news and 100% Anonymity on: August 11, 2013, 02:09:07 PM
That is strange. I saw him on our forums after this post was made, but nothing here. booo.

Oh I was just double checking that the guy proposing to patent this didn't know what ECIES was a week ago.

There is also prior art, and what looks to be a much better idea than yours and that one here. Time for a rewrite again, lol. Also prior art on using ECDSA to encrypt.


I believe Dan answered your question here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=270909.0

Did you have a chance to check that out?

What does ECDSA security have to do with double spending? (Nothing.) This does not answer anything about the viability of the network's security model. It also throws out any notion of your eMugraph, as if it had any viability to begin with. Still working on that AI to determine how much money to create?
187  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: whats better to do premine or take part of each block ? on: August 07, 2013, 04:29:33 AM
and even then it will be the fairest relece possible  Smiley

expectations++
188  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: [ANN] [ANN]!!! on: August 07, 2013, 04:25:54 AM
I like threads that use the [ANN] tag, it means I don't even have to read the title and can just skip it. (This one was short enough though Smiley)
189  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Innovative Crypto Currencies In Development on: July 31, 2013, 05:27:50 AM
Decrits might interest you, see sig
190  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MC2 ("Netcoin"): A cryptocurrency based on a hybrid PoW/PoS system on: July 30, 2013, 03:18:30 AM
If solar designer comes up with his proposed scrypt fork we can talk about that then,

Details?
191  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: eMunie on: July 26, 2013, 06:44:25 AM
lol the guy who bases currency creation on gambling has arrived
192  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: MC2 ("Netcoin"): A cryptocurrency based on a hybrid PoW/PoS system on: July 26, 2013, 06:42:40 AM
For the first $50,000, there will be 1,956,000 coins offered through stake votes;
$50,000 / 1956000 coins =  $ 0.02556237218813905930470347648262 per coin

Not only is that wiki page written atrociously, you should not be drawing any conclusion that the kickstarter has anything to do with the value of the coin. What the hell
193  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: eMunie on: July 26, 2013, 06:25:47 AM
I won't be holding my breath.
194  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Money Is the Perceived Value of Energy on: July 26, 2013, 04:16:44 AM
How can the currency be transacted "off-chain"? I guess one of these ways could be giving a person a wallet or address which holds the currency.

ewallets, for one. If transaction fees are too high, it provides an opportunity for paypal-like sites to take over where tx fees are cheaper.

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This is essentially what I was proposing. Is it not possible to recover all of the transaction in a block and the amounts that were transacted. If it is we can average out the volume across a number of blocks and measure the change in this average when each new block is found.

Sorry, I was totally unclear. I meant like if the average tx was 20 coins one year and it is 23 coins the next year, maybe there has been inflation.
195  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Money Is the Perceived Value of Energy on: July 26, 2013, 03:09:00 AM
If I have understood correctly, your design is to keep the cost of mining your currency stable by disincentivising improved technology which can mine more profitably.

This is part of it, but not all. A lot of energy has to be "burned" by the miners to even begin to create some new currency, meaning that hopefully the currency must be valued somewhat above its cost to produce before mining can even begin. In addition to this, so that lots of energy must not be wasted in creating money, and to incentivize using the money as money rather than a speculative vehicle, lots of free money is given away when people do mine so that the currency becomes unprofitable to mine again relatively quickly. If the currency is below its cost to produce, no one will likely produce it, and thus incentivizing people to accept it on the hope of it returning again to its higher value. This should be a fairly powerful motivator considering how much faith is really required for any currency to be successful.

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This may keep the currency more valuable than others to mine, but I'm not sure this will stabilise the value of the currency.

Neither am I, but I think it is the most effective design possible given what we know about how cryptocurrency will be used, which is almost nil at this point.

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I am working more on a detailed design and a basic simulation to help develop an algorithm which can lead to the network regulating its own rate of currency circulation.

Basing it on transaction activity won't work well, especially if you raise tx fees in response to increased activity. There will be many other ways to transact the currency that are "off-chain" and won't be monitored by the network, throwing off the calculations. This will in fact be encouraged if you raise tx fees and will further skew the data.

I considered using an idea where the difference in the amount of transactions could be monitored to potentially gauge inflation or deflation, but this really can't account for the changes in how cryptocurrency will be used in the future, and thus will likely be wrong more often than it is right. Maybe after the world has been using cryptocurrency for a hundred years or so and we have gobs of real data, something could be devised that will be very successful, but at this point it is just a guessing game, and I'm fairly sure every guess is going to be wrong. There are just too many factors to account for, and not nearly enough information to draw on.
196  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: eMunie on: July 26, 2013, 02:38:47 AM
The 1% who understand it could also abuse it to look like more than the rest of the 99%. Whatever metrics depend on it could be gamed for profit or just to break the system. It doesn't matter if 99% of the legitimate users don't understand how to game it, if the 1% can pretend to look like ten times the legitimate network.

Don't be so silly Agent, artificial intelligence will detect and stop you.

ecoinomist, fuserleer has been online, is he going to respond to my fairly simple question here: http://forum.emunie.com/threads/how-do-hatchers-choose-transactions.194/ ?
197  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Money Is the Perceived Value of Energy on: July 25, 2013, 06:22:16 PM
Well I was expecting to see more info in the pdf, but it is the same as the post for anyone interested.

I've designed a cryptocurrency on paper, linked in my signature, that will attempt to maintain a relatively stable value. Still in the works though.
198  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: eMunie on: July 25, 2013, 05:57:47 AM
You may be a good technical know how person, but honestly, I don't think you understand economics. Dan, however, understands both sides and that I know for a fact.

Economics is irrelevant. As I have said, the monetary scheme is tertiary to the security of the protocol. Maybe Dan understands "both", maybe he doesn't, but he has been unwilling or unable to provide a defense for the obvious vulnerabilities in his so-written design. I think the reality is that Dan knows how to program, but he does not know how to truly design a defensible system of this nature. Or perhaps he does, but he has made a very big mistake in attempting to work on the code without fully fleshing out the design. That is going to cost him a lot of time in rewriting the protocol over and over.

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So you think you understand and know everything? How come Decrits is still in paper?

This is of course irrelevant to the topic at hand, but the answer is quite simply because I did take the other route in design, one where I would be confident in the proposed design before attempting to program it. I also spent a significant amount of time researching cryptography, network protocols (and the attacks that can be made on them), economics and monetary systems, and more. Dan hasn't mentioned even a whit about the cryptography or the network protocol used in emunie. This is scary and should be ringing alarm bells.
199  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: eMunie on: July 25, 2013, 05:49:20 AM
I said MAC addresses are not transmitted, not can not. As in, it is not part of the TCP/IP protocol, as in, anyone with the slightest bit of networking background should realize that any "MAC address" received by a peer can not be verified as valid in any way, shape, or form other than it is a 6-byte string. Ergo, it is a completely meaningless metric. "Here are 1 billion 6-byte strings, award me lots of emunie pls"--"prove it"--"here are 1 billion 6-byte strings"...

I picked up on MAC addresses again and again because it is an easy one to poke holes in and show that you are not qualified to be making suggestions of this nature.

I shall go line by line quickly if you want:

1) Total balance of hatchers. -- Relies on a small, unpredictable subset of people who can collude, likely not even on purpose, to create more money for themselves. The basis of new money creation is one where hatchers are paid significantly more of the new money than the rest of the network as a reward for service. How hatchers come to be and how they acquire transactions and how they prove work are all completely unanswered questions, so there is little to do but grossly speculate on how those systems can be abused to put nefarious people in control of the hatchers and collude on purpose.
2-5) Are all essentially based on the "emugraph" concept which is likely unscalable to any reasonable degree (how much information must be kept, how often must this information be accessed, how is a consensus on what this information is reached, etc.) -- and again there is no information at all as to how it works so specific attacks can't be easily surmised at this point. But as I have already stated to your head which seems to be firmly planted in the sand--this will be easily manipulated in an open source protocol. If emunie is to remain closed source, it would be significantly more difficult to game (but far from impossible), but also completely untrustworthy.
6) Is irrelevant
7-8) Both rely on clients reporting honest information in a distributed network. It is a complete failure of design that ignores any notion of a sybil attack. It also somehow presumes that this information can be transmitted and agreed upon by a multitude of nodes who have no way of proving whatsoever that the information is reliable. It is ridiculously easy to game. No cost other than the small amount of time required to reverse engineer a very small part of the network protocol in the case of closed source, or compile in a few extra lines in open source.
200  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: eMunie on: July 25, 2013, 04:45:14 AM
What stops the client from retrieving MAC address from the device running it and distributing it to the network?

:sigh: Open source software, for one. For two, it would be fairly trivial to detect and intercept a packet prior to it leaving the computer and replace the MAC address with anything, without having access to the source code. For three, whatever mechanism that is used for compiling a list of MAC addresses could be also easily intercepted and have added any number of addresses of a malicious node's choosing. A way around this would be to have some way to hide a private and common signing key in each client (assuming closed source, of course), but that would be fairly easily for any ASM hacker to break, too. If there were some way to obfuscate the signing key in memory from the computer itself (bitcoin could sure benefit from this knowledge because as of yet there is no such thing), even then there are side-channel attacks on ECDSA when one is in control of the hardware and it could eventually be broken, assuming anyone gave a shit to put the effort into it--which I think would be excessively unlikely as few if any would be using this software.
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