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861  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 26, 2016, 04:54:38 PM
Did it stop the trades?
It will never but the Thinking to force them as far as you can just because "forcing for a good cause is Right" is what i am talking about.

How is this relevant here? I dont see anything related to (potentially) stolen gift cards.
Those are the risks for a third party interference and i linked that because you said i am "inhumane".

nope. i dont have to proof what i think or belive.
Strange,cause i don't believe anything unless it has some sense in it and is mostly based on facts rather than my likes and fucking opinions.And if i do then i make sure that i am believing it because i like it but there is a high possibility that it could be wrong.

What evidence would you like to see if we say: "Those GCs are not legit"?
There is none and i am not going to observe how a user is treating his wife and tag them here on forum.Fuck it's their personal life and how they get them is impossible to know and is also not my job, because i could post a fully functional s7 in Auctions and sell it for half the price and it would be impossible to know if i stole that or actually bought that.

I check if the user is avoiding Escrow,insisting others to go first(If new account),convincing users to trade somewhere on skype etc..

So td;lr: you dont have a clue how it should be handled but you think everything what others do is wrong? If you dont care about it i am cool with but i care.

Ps: (sticking at your s7) it would be possible thats what emais are made for... i think your counter examples are somehow horrible...
862  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 26, 2016, 12:50:52 PM
whos job is it to proof my thoughts are wrong?
Your Own cause you are the accuser.

nope. i dont have to proof what i think or belive. also again for you what the neg option states:

Quote
Negative - You were scammed or you strongly believe that this person is a scammer.

It doesnt say something about having evidence. In most of the cases we present one by leaving a correct reference. Just because i think someone is a scammer doesnt make him one, thats why most of the people -veing take their feedbacks back when proven wrong. I know it should be the other way around BUT no one dies, no one goes to jail because he has a feedback.

Lets do it the other way around and lets stick with GCs. What evidence would you like to see if we say: "Those GCs are not legit"?
863  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 26, 2016, 12:28:27 PM
How did anyone force anyone to stop trading gift cards
Tagging and trolling their thread and business unless they reveal you the method is not forcing ?

paid with stolen credit cards?
Evidence ?

link?
I am not going to make anything public but anyways some public info might of help.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1334378.msg13621674#msg13621674

The rating says "or belive..." so if i belive someone is a scammer whos job is it to proof my thoughts are wrong?
864  Economy / Reputation / Re: Default Trust List is a Joke.Theymos Save This Forum. on: February 26, 2016, 01:43:46 AM
the drama occurs because biased scammers got tagged and than cry because they got caught.

So here's what's going to happen next.I shall be creating a group of my own {we DT 1 members} and negative tag everyone who is selling forum accounts.Try not to be astounded when you will be the primary part we might be negative rating.A random account messaged me you being a lender with possession of multiple accounts as defaulted loans.

If you're laws to step-up to the selling of Unauthorized Goods are truthful , you should be negative trusting yourself as selling of forum accounts is a heinous crime.I would categorize it as even worser than selling of third party Goods.

@Mexxer-2 You truly included a member who offers forum account sells  to your trust list ? Just includes to your youthfulness {immaturity} to be on the DT.  

Just proved one of my issues with this group forming in this response. A continued escalation against those that you personally feel are bad for the community and not what is right for the community all around. Try to look at the other side of this and you will notice a lot of coup attempts look exactly like this.

if you want to -ve me because you are thinking selling accs from defaulted loans is not right, i welcome you to do so!

Nice to have the permission and all,but I am not interested in getting into the forum in that aspect.
But I am willing to voice concern for a group I think is going about things in a scary manner.

The tactics are very heavy handed and that is my only issue,but it seems like as I read this may expand as well. Smiley

you dont need permission to do so. its the same system i use. if think its scam i leave a feedaback. so if others think i am a scammer they should leave a feedback too! if someone proofs my my feedback is wrong i will remove it. said this numerous times.

Was sarcasm. You are glossing over the point that people need to prove innocence because you want them too. That is not a good way to go about correcting a issue. Its called being a bully.
If they do not play ball you neg rep them.
That is the issue,who is to say you are trying to get rid of competition. If you want to attack people be prepared for people to look into you.

Its disturbing to know there are people like you that are willing to walk on people to get to their goal.
Sad this is how the forum wants to be.

Lack of voice shows people are scared or agree with you.

You missing an important fact: the forum is not real life. If i think you are a scammer i can -ve you and i will do so including a refference. Are you guys just wroting or actually reading?? Again if i think so and there is no proof that i am wrong, how could i change my mind if no one proofs me wrong? Its simple.
865  Economy / Digital goods / Re: Buying download links - Easy job for $40 on: February 26, 2016, 12:31:51 AM
https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/software-download/windows7 is always online... just as example
https://www.microsoft.com/de-de/software-download/windows8 also
866  Other / Meta / Re: idea--- A decentralised trust system on: February 26, 2016, 12:27:44 AM
If 20-100 people decide how the bulk of the forum views a person's profile then the system is centralised, do you disagree? You have to be an idiot to disagree
Your arguments are plain stupid, one can't just say 'This and this, if you disagree you're stupid'. Constructive criticism is one thing but what you're doing is called trolling

No he doesnt, he plans to go into the new forum using a similar system as we are using now, there would be a system to identify alts in the new forum
You don't know , there hasn't been an official announcement or even any rumors about it. Again, I can easily make 50 alts or buy them, discredit someone and sell them and move on with my life. Know VPN much?

You're making bogus up at this point. Although I agree DT might be giving power in the hands of a few individuals henceforth making it centralized and ab-usable, its tolerable at this point

If 100 out of half a million people decide on a person's general rating then this system is centralised, do you disagree?

also im not making anything up, read this document that theymos wrote- https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bHlm4NQkSzaBTT5tLIqQBmV92wSsbdOX5r-dRR9Dgg0/edit

Again, you just showed you dont understand how the trust system works. I see you are still having mexxer on it and in addition you accept lutpin if your depth is at least 2. oh and see, i am on DT2 with your current settings as you still have mexxer in. funny...

so you dont think we are untrustworthy? nvm, ill stop to write more posts in here. doesnt make any sense...

867  Economy / Reputation / Re: Default Trust List is a Joke.Theymos Save This Forum. on: February 26, 2016, 12:20:53 AM
The trust system is broken
Are we still acting as if any of your/our opinions on this matter, matter? Cool. Lord theymos, please change the trust system
If you, lutpin and others to follow keep doing what you guys are doing, then he will have no choice but to change the system,

If you want the system changed go here

For my part: i will go on with what i currently do: Cleaning the Digital Goods section.
868  Other / Meta / Re: idea--- A decentralised trust system on: February 26, 2016, 12:01:50 AM
How about a decentralised trust system, the current system is clearly broken
Decentralised trust systems such as the one found over on thebot.net and hackforums.net to some extent run much better than what we currently have, although people only leave positive or negative feedback for trades which i think is good, i dont need to leave a positive or negative rating because you are my cousin

I think that if everyone's trust ratings count then there wouldnt be pressure on people in DT1

just my 2 cents

this posts just shows what i thought the whole time: you dont know how the system works.
869  Economy / Lending / Re: manyproofs loanding service (I am pro lender to this Place) on: February 25, 2016, 11:59:48 PM
I SEND U LOANDER!!! U ADMIT U GOT IT


NEW RULE for this Place. I am PRO loander  if U are not costumer

THEN U NOT POST HERE

IT IS RULE

OK PLEASE POST THE TRANSACTION ID IDIOT , GUYS HE IS SCAMMER, LET ME GET HIM BANNED !

I used to think as if you were innocent, but you were not man, you are hardcore idiotic and scammer !

look who's back... expect an increased number of newbies asking loans, everyone.

I SEND U LOANDER!!! U ADMIT U GOT IT


NEW RULE for this Place. I am PRO loander  if U are not costumer

THEN U NOT POST HERE

IT IS RULE

ouuukay.

HE SCAMMED ME ,TOOK MY ACCOUNT, GAVE NO LOAN, SEE ADDRESS

MANYPROOFS HAS ROBBED MY ACCOUNT !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


do this: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=497545.0
870  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 25, 2016, 11:56:52 PM
Also why dont you acknowledge the fact that acquiring giftcards and then selling in bulk at a loss is feasible

please explain how one can buy GCs in bulk so he gets awesome discounts like 80%
You dont have to buy them, skip back a few pages, and an 80% discount is probably not legit, in talking about people giving discounts in the  20-30% region

i know there are websites out there, and i think i posted it before, that enables reselling with that rates. i didnt check anonymous22 cards against public offers, but i know a few sellers that use that as their source.

so basicly your fighting for anonymous22 because this might be his source while we talking about hardcore discounts. so we talking in different directions. BUT if OgNasty confirms the source is fine, anons feedback will be removed. So the system works.
The system doesnt work if there doesnt need to be proof for the feedback to be left but there needs to be proof for it to be removed

if something looks like fish, smells like fish people might think it is fish. that is how it goes
871  Economy / Reputation / Re: Default Trust List is a Joke.Theymos Save This Forum. on: February 25, 2016, 10:54:26 PM
the drama occurs because biased scammers got tagged and than cry because they got caught.

So here's what's going to happen next.I shall be creating a group of my own {we DT 1 members} and negative tag everyone who is selling forum accounts.Try not to be astounded when you will be the primary part we might be negative rating.A random account messaged me you being a lender with possession of multiple accounts as defaulted loans.

If you're laws to step-up to the selling of Unauthorized Goods are truthful , you should be negative trusting yourself as selling of forum accounts is a heinous crime.I would categorize it as even worser than selling of third party Goods.

@Mexxer-2 You truly included a member who offers forum account sells  to your trust list ? Just includes to your youthfulness {immaturity} to be on the DT.  

Just proved one of my issues with this group forming in this response. A continued escalation against those that you personally feel are bad for the community and not what is right for the community all around. Try to look at the other side of this and you will notice a lot of coup attempts look exactly like this.

if you want to -ve me because you are thinking selling accs from defaulted loans is not right, i welcome you to do so!

Nice to have the permission and all,but I am not interested in getting into the forum in that aspect.
But I am willing to voice concern for a group I think is going about things in a scary manner.

The tactics are very heavy handed and that is my only issue,but it seems like as I read this may expand as well. Smiley

you dont need permission to do so. its the same system i use. if think its scam i leave a feedaback. so if others think i am a scammer they should leave a feedback too! if someone proofs my my feedback is wrong i will remove it. said this numerous times.
872  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 25, 2016, 10:51:02 PM
Also why dont you acknowledge the fact that acquiring giftcards and then selling in bulk at a loss is feasible

please explain how one can buy GCs in bulk so he gets awesome discounts like 80%
You dont have to buy them, skip back a few pages, and an 80% discount is probably not legit, in talking about people giving discounts in the  20-30% region

i know there are websites out there, and i think i posted it before, that enables reselling with that rates. i didnt check anonymous22 cards against public offers, but i know a few sellers that use that as their source.

so basicly your fighting for anonymous22 because this might be his source while we talking about hardcore discounts. so we talking in different directions. BUT if OgNasty confirms the source is fine, anons feedback will be removed. So the system works.
873  Economy / Reputation / Re: Default Trust List is a Joke.Theymos Save This Forum. on: February 25, 2016, 10:42:51 PM
posted by the guy hiding behind a throwaway...

Aren't rats like you who re sell accounts are the reasons for primary scams in the first place ? I don't like repeating myself I'm operating through a Public Computer in a Remote Offsite work.How does knowing my real identity make you less guilty ?

if you and your "dt friends" and the random account follow the tracks you will see i sold 1 account so far, the terms state i will reveal all information about the sale as soon as i see the account involved in something shady. i keep following the accs i might sell and the one i already sold. if you think this is wrong, i welcome everyone to leave a feedback with a refference.

i would like to know who i am speaking to, just asking.
874  Economy / Reputation / Re: Default Trust List is a Joke.Theymos Save This Forum. on: February 25, 2016, 10:39:03 PM
the drama occurs because biased scammers got tagged and than cry because they got caught.

So here's what's going to happen next.I shall be creating a group of my own {we DT 1 members} and negative tag everyone who is selling forum accounts.Try not to be astounded when you will be the primary part we might be negative rating.A random account messaged me you being a lender with possession of multiple accounts as defaulted loans.

If you're laws to step-up to the selling of Unauthorized Goods are truthful , you should be negative trusting yourself as selling of forum accounts is a heinous crime.I would categorize it as even worser than selling of third party Goods.

@Mexxer-2 You truly included a member who offers forum account sells  to your trust list ? Just includes to your youthfulness {immaturity} to be on the DT.  

Just proved one of my issues with this group forming in this response. A continued escalation against those that you personally feel are bad for the community and not what is right for the community all around. Try to look at the other side of this and you will notice a lot of coup attempts look exactly like this.

if you want to -ve me because you are thinking selling accs from defaulted loans is not right, i welcome you to do so!

Heutenamos, your name was randomly used as an example because YPII brought it up, not more not less
875  Economy / Reputation / Re: Default Trust List is a Joke.Theymos Save This Forum. on: February 25, 2016, 10:34:36 PM
the drama occurs because biased scammers got tagged and than cry because they got caught.

So here's what's going to happen next.I shall be creating a group of my own {we DT 1 members} and negative tag everyone who is selling forum accounts.Try not to be astounded when you will be the primary part we might be negative rating.A random account messaged me you being a lender with possession of multiple accounts as defaulted loans.

If you're laws to step-up to the selling of Unauthorized Goods are truthful , you should be negative trusting yourself as selling of forum accounts is a heinous crime.I would categorize it as even worser than selling of third party Goods.

@Mexxer-2 You truly included a member who offers forum account sells  to your trust list ? Just includes to your youthfulness {immaturity} to be on the DT.  

Yes i do, like most lenders that accept accounts as collateral. If the "random account" is able to read he might have seen that there is a list available of loans i had given. suprise, suprise. And yes, i am currently selling accounts of defaulted loan. All without trusted feedbacks! If you decide to -ve me with your main acc because i do so, please make sure you leave the correct refference so people can see it. I own them so i can sell them. i got them by a legit way, documented with signed messages. ask me about them i can proof it.

Instead of trying to sound like the cool hardcore btct pro bitcoin expert, who coded like 6000 lines while having a cold, being blind with his hands behind his back and using his nose to hit the keyboard, enlight us who you are and i welcome your friends to directly ask me what i am doing and why. i wait five minutes before i check back for you reply.

oh and btw, yes i have socks i use to contact sellers and guess what people know about it.
876  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 25, 2016, 10:29:25 PM
Also why dont you acknowledge the fact that acquiring giftcards and then selling in bulk at a loss is feasible

please explain how one can buy GCs in bulk so he gets awesome discounts like 80%
877  Economy / Reputation / Re: Default Trust List is a Joke.Theymos Save This Forum. on: February 25, 2016, 10:24:25 PM
But I guess being new in DT doesn't give you that privilege, gotta wait for a few more months I guess.
I'm surprised your brainchild lutpin has not commented here yet ? On the other hand is it hard to post answers utilizing your Alternative record ?

I would not be blown away if the other shill account lutpin comments afterwards.The sole reason you literally begged to drive in the pool of DT was to use it is a privilege and not a Responsibility.

posted by the guy hiding behind a throwaway...
878  Other / Meta / Re: Stopping gift card money laundering on: February 25, 2016, 10:19:05 PM
I strongly believe forcing untrustworthy users to stop being untrustworthy is right.
Believes,right ?

That's why the police forces criminals to stop and go to jail, or even just drivers not to go too fast. (Just an example).
If that is reported with proper evidence then the Cop goes inn for some years or even a decade.You cannot touch the criminal before you present him to the court.It is abuse which is what you agree to do.

It was about picking up soemthing you want to change.
Yes, but not by forcing anybody but by helping.There is a difference.


What you people are saying is ,Raping a bitch is good because she is scamming, hurting many people.Sorry,I don't agree to that, Sir.

we dont rape people, we leave feedbacks on them. thats two pairs of shoes. i dont tell them to stop something, sometime i suggest it in other topics. while they are tagged i try to get their threads deleted. worked fine so far.

and btw: bitches are not scamming... they are just bitches
879  Economy / Reputation / Re: Default Trust List is a Joke.Theymos Save This Forum. on: February 25, 2016, 10:16:37 PM
I am not attacking Blazed but when i see multiple threads daily then obviously it is silly drama for nothing in return and that is what i said.

While you are harassing me to accept your opinion
which opinion ? how am i harassing you ? i am talking to you and i didn't tagged you a negative to do what i want.


Now, as i see you have started trolling & i am not interested in it,you may continue.Thanks.

the drama occurs because biased scammers got tagged and than cry because they got caught.
880  Economy / Lending / Re: manyproofs loanding service (I am pro lender to this Place) on: February 25, 2016, 09:53:46 PM
Many is back! This makes my day! Where have you been?

he is a scammer, how he made your day ? he scammed shoaibbtc and robbed his account

maybe, just maybe i was a lender here at the time this stuff started and i enjoyed all the fun we had in here when the section was flooded by pro lender requests. but, please tell me more...  Roll Eyes
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