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1  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: |WTB| Bitcoins for MoneyPaks on: July 26, 2013, 04:44:50 PM
Heya hun,
  I'm in need of a $250 MP code. Will send a PM as well. Let me know a price, addy and when you are available. Off to work in an ~hour but will check in when I can there. Thanks in advance.

-Panda
2  Other / Archival / Re: TheButterZone's Mystery Boxes on: June 04, 2013, 03:37:46 AM
If they have or when they do receive the mystery item would you or the buyer mind posting to share the experience here with us old, tired and easily ammused folks? =)

Cheers,
 Panda
3  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling Moneypak for BTC, Mt. Gox +5% (Buying your BTC @ a Premium, you make 5%) on: June 03, 2013, 08:18:43 PM
Just completed another transaction with DM90. Quick, professional and available.

Cheers,
 Panda
4  Economy / Reputation / Re: DM Feedback thread! on: June 03, 2013, 12:08:12 AM
I bought a $300 MP. He was very quick to respond to PMs. Loaded the MP for me just as quickly. I would do business again and likely will here again soon.
5  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Selling Moneypak for BTC, Mt. Gox +5% (Buying your BTC @ a Premium, you make 5%) on: June 02, 2013, 08:52:25 PM
I'm interested in a $400 MP and will like another $400 and $300 soon after(some time in the next 2-36 hours) if that goes well.

Would be interested in escrow or immediatly after I go to the ATM (10 minutes, verify MP to card, drive and back) I would send.

Whichever works, I am fine with. I move quick in any effect.


Regards,
 Panda

Update; Purchased  $300 MP thus far. The deal went quick, smooth and I have cash in hand already from it.

Thank you, DM90
6  Economy / Trading Discussion / Re: Fastest and Cheapest Way to Buy Bitcoin on: June 01, 2013, 07:56:56 PM
Anyone mind reposting a link to that face-to-face BTC local exchange site for us new people? ;p
7  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: BFL - butterfly labs - a SAD state of affairs on: May 30, 2013, 11:56:55 AM
To put it mildly.

Ludicrous. You just couldn't make it up.

Congratulations to SadPanda. He definitively has some fun with those, but it is an exception from general rule that people spend fat $$$$, wait ages and get nothing in return.

Thanks. They can and soem already do run much faster than 5GH.

I would like to point out that I did not pre-order and never would. If it were not for the fact that I knew the person selling their pre-order and knew they needed the cash I would not have purchased. As it turned out, I was very lucky in the ROI on this.

Looking to buy some Avalon chips if I am going to do anything with mining and suggest to anyone else that is the best ROI mining wise atm.

cheers
8  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS/A] BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 27, 2013, 03:39:08 PM
so did u alred sold this?

Yes, I did m8. And both winning bidders have honored their bids.

Going to change title now. Sorry if that wasted anyones time reading here.

cheers,
 Panda
9  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: BFL - butterfly labs - a SAD state of affairs on: May 25, 2013, 10:29:58 PM
Got my 2 Jalepenos. Completely random as I bought someone else pre-order like forever ago. Working on getting BFGminer configed to see what it will run them at. BFGminer's author had his unit running at almost 5.5GHs. mmmmmmmmmm

pics here;





10  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS/A] BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 25, 2013, 09:55:36 PM
In case anyone wants to see pics of these. Here you go.  Also, did anyone else notice Luke-jr was mining on one of these at almost 5.5GHs using BFGminer?





11  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB] Mostly Complete Computer for Home User on: May 24, 2013, 08:11:36 PM
If you could show me the build you have in your Amazon cart I can order it for you for 2.3 BTC (if it's ~$350)

I very well may do that. I am in-between offices atm. When I get to one for more than a few minutes later on, I will draw up a cart again and send it to you. Think I can gift cart and link it but not sure as I have not done it with Amazon in a while.

Can you do it with other amounts as well? I have a few other parts and possibly another build I want to order up some time between today and the next 4 days.

Thanks for your reply

Regards,
 Panda
12  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFL EasyMiner v1.0.6 Administrative Mode Gone? on: May 24, 2013, 04:49:15 PM
I've been gone from mining for a while so this may be a dumb question.

But does BFGminer not allow for tweaking hash/clock speeds for BFL units yet?
13  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTB] Mostly Complete Computer for Home User on: May 24, 2013, 02:40:21 PM
I am looking for a complete or mostly complete computer build for a client of mine.

My main requirements are as follows;

1.  Must be atleast quad core cpu or apu, 2.8Ghz+  (prefer AMD as it is likely cheaper and I'm a fanboy but that is not a req)
2.  Mobo atleast having USB 3 and Sata 3 connections
3.  preferably 8GB of dual chan but will consider 4GB, 1066Mhz is fine but prefer 1333+
4.  Needs an independent vid card. Consumer grade, but atleast Nvidia 500-600 series or ATI 6xxx-7xxx (something under $100 here, like a GT 610, etc.)
5.  Vid card not needed if using APU/CPU
6.  cheap mouse/keyboard, wireless.
7.  mini wifi usb adapter. one of the lil $7-12 ones. atlast N though.
8.  minimum 500w PSU, (those lil Corsair system builders ones hold up pretty well for home users, as an example. nothing completely generic here please.)
9.  atleast mid tower sized case, nothing too plain but not too fancy either. no Lian Li (fancy) or Sun Co's (plain beige) ;p
10. Don't need monitor.
11. Needs a DVD +-RW burner, sata connection atleast. something cheap.
12. 1TB or larger HDD, sata 3, nothing less than 32mb cache, prefer 64mb.

Would like a bid for parts only shipped/drop shipped to my location in FL
And a bid for assembled with Win7 installed. Don't need key but if you got it cheap, a price for w/without key would be appreicated.

Starting prices;
-Parts only, shipped = $450 or less ( I have very similar build sitting in my Amazon cart for $350)
-Assm w/ or without key = $550 or less

Will work out payment details with any winning bidders. Can pay cash upon receipt or BTC in escrow, seller's choice.

Thanks for your time!

Kind Regards,
 Panda
14  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS/A] BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 24, 2013, 11:55:40 AM
Cheers, ISAWHIM (who u see? Slenderman?)

I'm butthurt that I waited 10+ months for these and will be shipping them out instead of hiding them in the closet and letting them mine away for a while. :/

With the price of BTC in USD at the time of preorder the payoff time at that moment with BTC at ~$4 and diff at what it was the payoff time was friggin 10 months+.  Now it is down to ~110-120 days at my sales price. That is even considering the next few diff increases.

What really changes things is the increase in BTC price. For every 1$ BTC increases in value it shortens the payoff time by a day.


The last time I had 8GH in vid card rig going it was costing me $500 per month in electricity. ouchhhhhhh  We wont know for sure until we plug these in but according to BFL they should run in the 12-18W range per 5GH. That's a huge change from vid carding.


I miss mining as well and will continue to hunt for something to mine with.

Cheers to all who saw this thread and were itching to hit the bid button. I know your pain. =)
15  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS/A] BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 24, 2013, 01:28:05 AM
Did I win?

Yes you did, m8.  I will follow up in PM with you to get the paper work finalized. =)




Also to everyone else, the second unit is going to go to Photon939. Assuming he wants it and no one wants to make the min bid in the next few minutes since I set no reserve.

Thanks all who showed interest here and in PMs

Regards,
 Panda
16  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 23, 2013, 01:43:17 AM
Wow, that's rather aggressive to call me a troll or incompetent. Looking at the spreadsheet you linked, and the 4-6 week period I mentioned, my hashrate of 1800 MH/s:

DATE             DIFF   BTC/DAY   CHANGE
17-Apr   8974296   0.100            ---
29-Apr   10076293   0.090            -10.2%
12-May   11187257   0.081            -9.9%
26-May   12305983   0.074            -9.1%

So my guesstimate of -20%/2 weeks is more like -10%/2 weeks. At the end of 90 days @ 5 GH/s you would have gone from earning 0.22 BTC/d to 0.13 BTC/d, and would have earned a total of 14.4 BTC.

Last increase was 10% and next is currently estimated at 7%

Again, using the numbers about from the spreadsheet you linked, the next projected difficulty increase is (12305983 - 11187257)/11187257 = 10%, not 7%. Oh, and the BTC/USD in that spreadsheet you linked? On 17-Apr it was $139. At the time of this writing? It is $124. sad panda indeed! Please feel free to check my math, as I may be incompetent.

Either way, your 20% was 10%

And the upcoming is now 6%.

I linked a different source for the upcoming change for a reason. It is in real time. The google doc chart is updated manually so is not accurate for next diff change.
http://dot-bit.org/tools/nextDifficulty.php

I'm not going to waste any more time debating the usefulness of the periods of time you picked for the price as they are only relevant for those periods of time and do not at all show a complete picture whne dealing with investment periods of 90-100 days.

I take back the troll/horrible maths (you are the only one who said incompotent btw) and leave you with 'Exaggerator,' who is posting in a sales thread. With you having no interest in it because?

If you want to make a bid, feel free. I can play nice. Otherwise, please save the other discussions for the appropriate threads.

Regards,
 Panda
17  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 23, 2013, 12:04:41 AM
Given recent exponential rise in difficulty, I've personally experienced a 20% reduction in returns every 2 weeks over the past 4-6 weeks at constant hashrate. Have others experienced a similar trend?

If this trend is valid and continues, then 5 GH/s would generate 0.22 btc/day now, 0.176 in 2 weeks, etc etc.

After 90 days (12 weeks), it would only generate 0.07 btc/day, and you would have earned only 11 BTC.


You've personally experienced getting ripped off by your pool then.


This increase in difficulty has imho stabalized a bit for now as most current asic hardware is out in the wild now and BFL have a new delay on getting any more units than the first few days worth (and only Jalepenos at that) that very few people actually ordered in that time period. I was lucky enough to buy one of those first few orders on a hunch/whim.

Last increase was 10% and next is currently estimated at 7%, The few before that were even greater as referenced here;
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?hl=en&hl=en&key=0AmcTCtjBoRWUdHVRMHpqWUJValI1RlZiaEtCT1RrQmc

3/24/2013    38.13%
4/5/2013      14.59%
4/17/2013    16.96%
4/29/2013    12.28%
5/12/2013    11.03%
and
Next 237888 25/05/2013 21:17 11'969'606.20 x1.07   Thats ~7%  estimated of course. source;
http://dot-bit.org/tools/nextDifficulty.php

Not to mention the Price has GREATLY outweighed the difficulty increase.............

Not sure if you're trolling or just horrible at maths but thanks for your input, m8. ;p

Regards,
  Panda
18  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 22, 2013, 11:30:21 PM
my bid was for one unit, also where are you located roughly?
23 btc
Gotcha
Bid Noted

Florida, US

one for 25btc

Bid Noted

19  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 22, 2013, 07:50:20 PM
I think people were able to get 12 gh/s off of them quite easily plus they've been released for some time compared to the pre order. You do make some sense though as its fair to want to get more than 90 day investment. Best of luck.

Aye, those blade units are very nice. Thanks for your input.

  Yea, from a sales perspective, the old thinking for earnings calculations was 9-10 months. In this fast paced, ASIC driven hashing environment it is prudent to bring those calculations down closer to the 90 day range. And following that, of course it makes sense to utilize hardware versus selling it if one cannot sell it for atleast 90 days of earnings. This time basis for cost averaging may even come down tighter as difficulty increases and I will continue to readjust with it as all interested parties in the mining sector should.

  I'm in no bind financially or outside of my desire to continue mining to want to let them go for too little. Though I am not at all close minded to the benefit of receiving the earnings up front in exchange for having the liquid assets to use in other ways now versus waiting for the earnings. I stay pretty busy when it comes to calculating and recalculating the best use of my time and assets.


Yep I paid about $410 for these 10 months ago. I believe it costs me ~137BTC at the time.

Now I intend to operate them and generally calculate my numbers using a 90-120 day scale.

If I cannot get 90 days earnings for these in cash (BTC preferably) then it is not worth selling.  This pricing formula is more than fair and is in-line and in many cases lower than buying any other mining gear right now.

Optionally, one could buy their own Jale now and maybe receive it in 10 months when they make 1/4 per day what they will for the next few months.

cheers,
 Panda

You're in a pickle, I would say no one would pay 24BTC and you spent 137 BTC. Whoever is buying at 24 BTC will have at least 4 months for an ROI and that is if the difficulty doesn't spike up like crazy. If you mine yourself you will never get the 137 back with those not even in a year or two of mining as they will be obsolete in a year.
I would just mine with them and try to shorten my losses, but who knows, there's always someone that wants to buy something at those prices... you can only hope! Smiley

HEHE, no pickle here, m8. =)  I did and maintain still today that it was better to hold bitcoins in pocket than it was to buy hardware (especially preorder hardware) with them. This was an opportunity that I grabbed because I could and had the spare coins laying about outside of other investments at the time. I stated that I used about 137BTC just for full disclosure of the circumstances at the time and to add to the convo, as it were. As such, I was not and am not under any false assumptions that this hardware would ever return xn BTC, due to the long lead times involved.

Yep, @ 24BTC per unit it would take ~106 days at current difficulty to pay off. No one with any sense is missing that ball, as I would like to think myself and anyone else who spends money on mining spends an equal amount of energy constantly recalculating costs/earnings/time.

That said, there are no losses to shorten and only opportunities to gain. Gain by mining and utilizing the earnings intelligently as they are made or gain by short selling and utilizing the earnings intelligently now.

Thanks for your inputs, friend.

Cheers,
 Panda
20  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: BFL Jalepeno Preorders 5GHs - Order #1776 6/23/2012 on: May 22, 2013, 07:06:42 PM
23 btc

Each or on one, m8?


I am of course willing to use escrow for anyone that is wondering.

cheers
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