In my mind it is up to these banned/sig banned DT members to explain themselves (sooner than later) and provide some context with the reason why they were sig banned and appeal to DT directly. The mods/staff/this insane new bot have done their job and now it's up to DT to act aswell.

That is something I do need to add to my notes, I will take a closer look in the next few days and attempt to work them out.


I believe the original buyers sent their own addresses in to be put onto them (maybe not the 1Unity vanity address). Also nobody did send me their CoA although two of the owners did mention them. I will reach back out to the ones I can get ahold of and see if they made their own public address or if WC created them.

Definitely a poor choice to have all caps font and to just make the supposed lower case letters 1 point smaller than the uppercase.

Monthly exposure bump. It is my hopes that eventually someone that is not regularly around sees this and reaches out with new information.

Have not searched for any clues yet. I keep pushing it off because I am scared to find or not find clues and have this adventure end.

Was curious about the symbol and loading of this coin.

I think a lot of it comes down to the fact that once you merit something it can not be removed. When handing out merit you actually need to think longer and harder about what you are doing than when leaving positive/neutral/negative trust because it can not be modified or taken away (unless post deletion/admin?). The conversation we should be having hasn't even been had yet because the attack dogs came out and tried to destroy me because I temporarily red tagged some of their favorite members, when these members permanently merited a public dox.

Did I use the wrong tool to bring light to this? Maybe/Probably. Is there a proper forum tool available? I don't think so.

When and if you paint another piece I would stay away from writing bitcoin in cursive. I just can't get past looking at bitcoim.. even though I know it is a cursive n.
Practice makes perfect.

Hey bones261 no worries at all.. I definitely know who's side I'd take in these kinds of situations if I were you. Never wanna bite the hand that feeds you.


https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5124985.msg50345864#msg50345864

"I added to my notes the fact that those users merited such a post. Meriting it is saying basically that we need more posts like this on the forum, and we do not need more posts like this on the forum."

Most important thing you should have taken away from theymos' post. You think in his notes he put these users on the good boy/girl side of his list?
To each their own I guess.

This is fine I do not fault you for standing up for something you believe to be right. Many times throughout the countless threads here I have stated that had there been another way of achieving this same effect, I would have used it. If as a merit source you believe that one day in the future you think you'll throw some of your merit down on a public doxx to expend your source then our paths will probably cross again.

Based on your previous replies to me I chose to exercise my right with the ignore button yesterday. I feel as though I lose nothing of importance by having your posts not show up. This won't change now or any time soon.

Edit to add: marlboroza was one of the four members of bitcointalk that decided a public doxxing was a meritable post.

Anyone else notice the new way these DT1 members are shutting down conversation that doesn't benefit their gang? Simply call the other person a liar or a hypocrite.
The average user just reads this and automatically believes it to be true because the people they look up to are the ones saying it.
But they want forgiveness for their friends.

I felt like theymos was giving his feedback on the steps I initially took that started this whole thing off.. not giving a green light to use his statement as the basis of future negatives. It is unacceptable what Vod did so a properly worded negative rating is appropriate, but make it your own and make it sincere. Anyone can work in private and do their own investigation into anybody they want.. it's just that taking it public was the wrong way to go about it.

I've been called out for using negative trust for merit posting but theymos does say that there is an argument to be had there.. how I took this was that permanent red trust was not the answer, which is why I explained myself in neutral ratings and then after a day of each of the four being online I removed those aswell. Theymos said that red trust is "the wrong level" which is right, but there isn't really a forum tool that is the correct level needed to effectively get the point across that it was also not very acceptable behavior. Especially for fellow DT1 members.

On the forgiving part, I also agree here and Vod can confirm that when we talked and got rid of the dox post that I told him my negative trust would remain for 1-2 weeks and then I would bump it down to a neutral, seeings how he realized his mistake and in the end made things right by removing the post completely. When someone does something wrong they shouldn't be immediately forgiven.. there should be a minor consequence aka a week or two of a lower trust score. All this immediate countering of negatives doesn't help anybody realize that they did something wrong.

Now since we are all for forgiving Vod because he edited the dox to remove OgNasty's personal info, I would hope that this goes both ways and my use of a very temporary red tag for the merit posters should also be forgiven. ( Surprisingly one of the main reasons I did what I did was to attempt to protect the four members from having their name at the top of the dox post in case something did happen and law enforcement was involved.. I was not being malicious, I was actually trying to protect ). The word hypocrite has been thrown around by two members that have excluded me over this.. they need to take a look in the mirror.

I've taken a look at the hhampuz dox thread and need to figure out the best way to approach that whack job. IMO that one is up to theymos or a moderator to get rid of as anyone that brings up anything relevant is threatened with a dox of their own. Unless you've got locktight opsec it's a toughie and that is most likely why a lot of DT1 may not have stepped in there. A lot of us being Collectibles members is a bit scary as we probably have the worst opsec of the forum due to trading bitcoin for physical coins pretty much daily.

Please no circle talk and pointless replies, this should be a turning point towards making the forum a better place for everyone, there are a lot more members here watching from afar than you think.

Edit to add: My inclusions are based on the fact that not everyone I have included in my trust list are always going to agree.. what we need are some differing views sometimes, just because someone has an unpopular opinion or creates a few waves here or there doesn't mean they should be instantly excluded. The world would be boring as fuck if we all just agreed all the time.

How long until another of these pops up?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5129675.msg50521921#msg50521921
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5137324.msg50820769#msg50820769
Very insecure individual.
Anyways I won't let this hit Vod vs OgNasty levels, very easy to press Ignore here.

I've been discouraged by my peers for the time being, hard to get shit on by people I thought were held to a higher standard. It'll be okay I'll hopefully come around by the time one of you send merit for doxxing


Any new DT1 member has to go back and fix the failures that people who have been on DT1 for years failed to take a stance on? How far back should I go? All the way to the forum beginning?

Please tell me more about my morals? I've strongly upheld them. You however flip flop back and forth. Enjoy your time on theymos' list of notes.

All of you guys' hate for OgNasty just continues to shine. You can't even hide it anymore. Visibly shaking.

Look he's doing that cute thing that Lauda does by posting a picture or gif to try to make fun of you. Pretty cute marlie.


It's not? It links to this thread because the public doxx post that you decided it was proper to merit was deleted.. I dinged all four merit posts and because it was the wrong tool to use(there is no longer a post which equals no more merit for doxx) I offered what is on your trust wall as an explanation. You may not have been online when it happened so I didn't want you blindsided.

Further up in your post I see that you have another doxx problem.. it's unfortunate that DT1 hasn't acted on that back then. Not sure what these guys have been doing for years. I'd take a look at it but it appears DT1 is okay with doxxing (my negative on Vod has been countered left and right). Don't let them catch you selling an account though. Bad bad news!

Try reading the thread for any other answers you need, I've explained my position many times quite clearly.

The question here now becomes what have the long term DT1 members been doing about this rampant doxxing? Has there not been a large enough stance taken on it to prevent future doxxing? Obviously not with all these examples you and Lauda are bringing up.

My record is 1-0 currently. I was only DT1 for a week, but I seen something wrong and I decided to do something about it. In the end I achieved what I set out to do and the post was deleted. If I'm never DT again I wouldn't care, in my very short time I have done more to set a precedent against doxxing than any of you have in the long time you've held your position. It's just unfortunate some highly valued members decided merit for doxx was an okay thing to do.

Hooo boy look at how bad that looks. Hhampuz went through a similar full doxx but thinks meritting someone elses doxx is the correct order of action.
Everyone here is so scared to speak out with an unpopular opinion because you few spin it to try and make them look badly or unfit for DT.
It's not working this time. You guys are finally showing your true intentions. Form an echo chamber, remain in power.

Every single DT1 member sat idly by while someone was publicly doxxed over a ridiculous arguement that escalated out of control. More action happened when hhampuz's trust rating turned into orange ???s. I think it's time you get your priorities in order. You guys are a laughing stock.

After having a grown up conversation with Vod, we both understand eachother's side and have had the edited dox post in Investigations deleted. I have removed my red ratings from the merit posters. If a different tool were available to achieve this same effect I would have used it, it was never my intention to tarnish the great work that the four individuals do every day on this forum. If no tool ever appears I will act no differently in the future, your exclusions may remain and you will not be excluded in retaliation.

As I had said, I would have much preferred having some sort of forum tools to address this in a completely different way. My red tags have never been permanent but I felt like this was the closest tool available to get my point across/initiate change. All the right eyes are on this topic right now.. instead of trying to hang me, lets figure out how to fix this. You think I wanted to red tag some of the best members on various boards? I've slept on making this decision for a few days now.

-- probably last post of mine on this topic, like fuck I'm going to go in circles all night with Lauda