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1  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bugaj: ...."or PiS [the Polish govt] will have to be executed by firing squad." on: April 27, 2016, 06:50:37 PM

Stupid, nazis, fanatics... that's some scary shit. How do you sleep at night?


Touched a nerve, did I?

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What was the alternative again
PO, Nowoczesna... look it up yourself, dumbass.

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and why did they lose badly?

"badly" is a relative term. But you're correct, 51% vs. 49% is indeed a disaster with the aforementioned party in charge of the legislative branch of government.

Like I already mentioned, people voted for small parties that didn't cross the 5% threshold. Those lost votes got redistributed among the parties that did get in.

The main opposition party, PO, was politically attacked by a recording tape scandal, which PiS exploited before the election. Their internal leadership also failed to recover after Donald Tusk went into the EU parliament.

A washed-up b-grade rocker entered the presidential race, and then he made his own party. Some 9% of voters lapped up the kool-aid.

The catholic church used its own resources, and government subsidies, to help fund and propagandise PiS' election campaign. They also have a millionaire businessman (Rydzyk) who calls himself a priest but spends his time running a media company, which was extremely biased in favour of PiS.


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Your above comment and the 'juicy quote' don't quite match, the quote criticises the opposition. The execution part is laughable.

If you had a better understanding of the situation in Poland, you wouldn't be so cocky.

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Looks like "Maidan 2.0 - Polish edition" isn't getting the desired traction.

You're an idiot. Nobody wants a repeat of Ukraine. Except maybe the Russians. They seem to be very supportive of how things are going in Poland.


If the turnout is less than 50% (as was the case)...

Turnaround was 50.92%.
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My bad. 1% difference. That wouldn't phase an egomaniac like MP Kaczynski.

Anything else I can help you with?
2  Other / Politics & Society / Re: THE CLIMATE CHANGE COMMUNIST MANIFESTO on: April 26, 2016, 10:02:36 PM
What I don't understand is how Climate change has become a social and popular question.

We have nothing to do on that question. This is not our business.

Are people arguing in their daily life of the relevance of using ethanol as a solvant in an organic synthesis? No of course not! They don't give a fuck and even if they'd do they know they don't have the skills required to understand fully the process. They let this question for the chimists.

So why don't we just stop discussing climate change and listen to the scientists results?

The science behind it may be science, but a lay-person's faith in it would be religious expression. By being sceptical and questioning the self-styled experts in the field, lay people are actually being more scientific than they would otherwise be if they blindly believed the paid scientific professionals.

Besides, from a philosophical point of view, science is a personal endeavour where a person seeks objective knowledge about the world. Even incredulity or emotional reactions could be thought of as a kind of experimentation, where the participants exert pressure on the system, and then they find out what happens in response.
3  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Bugaj: ...."or PiS [the Polish govt] will have to be executed by firing squad." on: April 26, 2016, 09:14:24 PM
PiS was voted in with like 40% as the strongest power?

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So this is how liberty dies...with thunderous applause.

Something like that. It might've even been the high 30s, but with several small Left parties not making the 5% cut (~8% for coalitions), they made a slight majority.

With 20-20 hindsight, the voting system and the public's attitude toward it seem naive. If the turnout is less than 50% (as was the case), by default it implies that a majority of the population don't care enough about democracy to even bother participating in a small voting ritual. Thus, in that case, the country's president should probably take over and declare the election null and void. But unless he's the dictatorial type, his best bet would be to promptly announce a new round of elections. I like Spain's system far better.
4  Other / Politics & Society / Bugaj: ...."or PiS [the Polish govt] will have to be executed by firing squad." on: April 26, 2016, 08:32:38 PM
Commentary on Poland's new government, which offers a diabolical mix of stupidity, National-Socialist tendencies and Catholic fanaticism.

http://www.polskatimes.pl/magazyny/magazyn-polski/a/ryszard-bugaj-nie-podoba-mi-sie-co-pis-robi-z-trybunalem-do-opozycji-jednak-sie-nie-przylacze,9915241/


The juicy quote is on page 4.

"Opozycja nie jest wyraźnie zainteresowana jakimikolwiek rozmowami o kompromisie. Zachowują się tak, jakby intensyfikacja tego sporu była im na rękę.
Sprawa trybunału sprawia, że narasta bardzo poważne zagrożenie rozchwiania porządku prawnego w kraju. Opozycja nie powinna lekceważyć zagrożeń dla państwa. Ewentualny kompromis nie może prawnych zaszłości ignorować ale bez politycznego porozumienia impas jest nieuchronny. Zabrnęliśmy już bardzo daleko. Jeszcze chwila i będziemy mieli tylko dwa wyjścia: albo PiS wszystko ułoży po swojemu, albo trzeba będzie PiS rozstrzelać. Trzeciego wyjścia nie będzie."


"The opposition is not clearly interested in any talk of compromise. They're behaving as if an intensification of the dispute works in their favour.
The tribunal issue means there's a very serious, rising threat of a destabilization of the legal order in the country. The opposition should not neglect these threats to the state. A possible compromise cannot ignore the legal legacy, but without coming to a political understanding, an impasse is inevitable. We're already mired neck-deep in this. Another moment and we will have only two choices left: either PiS will arrange everything however they want, or they will have to be executed by firing squad. There won't be any third option."
5  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Proof that God exists on: February 08, 2016, 01:26:00 PM

BADecker,

Ask God to post on this forum, asking him to use id from 2011. Or better yet, post on all the forums out there.  "Hey people, I'm your God, you know....blah,blah, have been busy for the last 6000 years, sorry for not getting back to you sooner..."

He is all knowing, so he is obviously reading this thread.  Hey God, where the fuck are you when BADecker needs you?

God my ass, you fool.


Hey guys, sorry I couldn't back you sooner. Been busy Wink

Goedel's ontological proof thingie (page 1-2 somewhere) sounds a bit airy-fairy compared to the way some programmers think.

Anyone who speaks of 'God', "a god", some hypothetical god" or whatever, clearly has some kind of idea or 'model' of what constitutes a god in their mind. Let's call that model an "object".

In programming jargon, order to have an object, what else do we need to have?... A 'class'.

This separation between classes and their objects is akin to Plato's Forms and Images, a philosophical construct that's 1000s of years old.

That's all for now...
6  Other / Politics & Society / Re: IS video threatens attacks in Russia on: November 15, 2015, 07:13:50 PM
Maybe the Russian intelligence services aren´t in the freakin bed with these terrorists. I don´t know; I guess terrorists look for easy soft targets where they can set up their operations without too much interference. Also for publicity, in the western world at least, Paris in France carries more weight than Makhachkala in Russia.  Western presstitutes and other morons might go on for a few days about how it´s pronounced. No emotional porn binge equity for them there.



Nah, Putin's loving it. Rising levels of nationalism in Europe play right into Putin's hands because it weakens the EU. "Divide and conquer" is the name of the game.
7  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Women are "either bisexual or gay but NEVER straight" on: November 08, 2015, 10:58:02 AM
It shows how women are professional liars and social chameleons. Special probes inside the crotch that measure sexual arousal DO NOT LIE.
A woman "identifying" as straight is about as truthful as the "I have a boyfriend" excuse that they all parrot. They only say it to avoid a tiny bit of awkwardness. It's actually quite enlightening for me. As, I guess an 'ally' of the LGBT community, I've often wondered what is it about lesbians and bisexuals that makes them so different and interesting? It turns out that it's not just their unavailability, or me sabotaging myself by wanting what I can't have, my intuition was right all along in that they're simply more HONEST human beings.
8  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sweden. Africans rape girl. Principal: boys will be boys, parents are rasist on: November 08, 2015, 10:13:21 AM
Sweden always had lax punishment for violent crimes. It worked when 99% of the population was European (that was the case until the 1980s). Things changed when radical feminists and left wing nuts seized power in the 1980s. They "invited" all the Somalis and Afghans they could find to come and live in Sweden, so that the country would become "diverse". When the Muslims found out that raping the infidel women will not put them in jail they went berserk. According to the latest stats, 77% of all the rapes in Sweden are committed by Muslims.



Inviting different genetics was probably essential to prevent various diseases related to incest. That's what happens when blond/e Aryans only have sex with other blond/e Aryans for several generations. They might be retarded, but they did something right. Their problem seems to be a broader inability to understand things like "unintended side-effects" of their control-freak desire to make their society run like a machine.
9  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Sweden. Africans rape girl. Principal: boys will be boys, parents are rasist on: November 08, 2015, 09:50:45 AM
Perhaps there are details that we are missing?

It's Sweden, duh.
Broken condom = rape.
No condom, rape.
She passes out and the guy doesn't do anything, it's rape, due to lack of evidence that a rape did not occur.
Someone gives her the "male gaze" on a bus = RAPE.
She goes shopping. Store attendant has a penis. RAPE!
Bitcointalk nerds will be on-line nerds. OMG potential RAPISTS!
EVERYTHING is rape in this fucked up, gynocentric, 3rd-wave feminist dystopia.

Normally, I would be horrified that maybe some nasty boy committed some terrible acts on an innocent victim, but with the gradual escalation and massive overuse of the word "rape" in recent years, right now I feel like I'M THE ONE who getting abused! Just for being biologically male, there is all this constant bullshit in society around me. If I'm a stranger, women are brainwashed to be incredibly fearful, just in case I might be a rapist. It's everywhere. Modern society is a fucking insult to men.
10  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 05, 2015, 01:15:33 PM

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When you say slavery, what would they make the people DO? Work harder? Wouldn't they have to market it as some kind of utopia first?
Taxation is slavery.
Then why does the English language have 2 different words for it?



Incidentally, Orwell covered this extensively in his clever satire, 1984, where the dictatorship was trying to purge all unnecessary words from the English language. Nuance? Devil in the details? Fuck that shit, it's all black OR white.


11  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 05, 2015, 01:09:07 PM
WHY would a military just randomly "arrest" the entire country? Is it a coup? Was it shoddy leadership and they want to topple the incumbent?
Who said anything about a military randomly arresting a country?

You missed the greatest reason why a military does anything. A military does what it is ordered to do by whoever is in control.
Like any good ideologue, you're doing this thing where you hand-wave away the nuances of real life, and hide behind vague language like "control". It's obviously not mind-rays and alien technology, so what's the exact story explaining that control?
I'll even help you out, E.g.:
some military generals are in a meeting with the political elite, and there's tension because one side wants to cut the weapons budget and put the money elsewhere. After the meeting, the generals then make a secret pact to overthrow those clowns, and there's your coup in progress.

So who's "in control"? Nobody. It's a dynamic situation with negotiations and passing the ball around on the fly.



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In almost all cases, people in government are there because they like to be in control. Many of these people are control freaks. Usually, they own the military... at least as far as being able to command the military.
And Donald Trump could statistically be a very lucky idiot who got where he is today by a series of lucky accidents. Sounds like you're projecting evilness and malicious intent into the actions of others, when you don't know what makes them tick.



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Control freaks often like more money, usually so that they can get more control. What do they want to control? The people, of course. Why? So that they can tax the people for more money, of course.

If the people don't have guns and the military does, government leaders who control the military can take control whenever they want, via their military.
So goes your theory.



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Why don't many of the governments of the world make literal slaves of their nations? Because everybody sees that American gun freedom works. Push the people too hard, and they will get guns, and you will be dead. At the very least, you will lose control.
I realise America is the centre of the universe, but why so modest?



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When you say slavery, what would they make the people DO? Work harder? Wouldn't they have to market it as some kind of utopia first?
Taxation is slavery.
Then why does the English language have 2 different words for it?

12  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 04, 2015, 08:16:25 PM

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But it's a sad and rather tragic thing with these perverted monster control freaks (anti-gun politicians) try to focus their control freakness on firearms.  Seems like that always turns out badly.

Except pretty much everywhere in the developed world outside of America.


Except that you are missing the greatest point of all in this. And it isn't really your fault. Because around the world, in countries that have gun control, and the common people who love the gun control, because they have relative peace, have missed it as well.

Here it is in a simple nutshell. The only reason peace abounds in many nations with gun control is, there isn't much gun control in the United States. To say it more bluntly, it is the gun freedom in the U.S. that is causing the peace around the world, and even in nations that have gun control.

How does this work? Like this. If the governments of gun control nations moved their militaries in and made literal slaves of their nations, the people of the U.S. would find out, and the people of the gun control nations that remained free would see it as well.

Everybody would realize that gun control meant slavery, and that gun freedom was the best thing for the people. When this happened, the people of the United States would implement more guns among themselves and friends and relatives than they have now. The U.S. government would NEVER have a chance at gun control outside of a full, militarized take-over... which might even fail.

In addition, the people of the gun control countries would follow the lead, and soon everyone around the world would be swimming in guns. Anti-freedom nations would fall over night. Free nations would become even freer. Peace would abound. The gun control crowd - which is really the slave-making, one-world government crowd - Would have lost any chance that they had to take over the world.

So you see? It is American gun freedom that is keeping the world free!

Smiley

A few questions about your story...
WHY would a military just randomly "arrest" the entire country? Is it a coup? Was it shoddy leadership and they want to topple the incumbent?
How would they keep their morale above water, knowing that their own families are affected the same way?
When you say slavery, what would they make the people DO? Work harder? Wouldn't they have to market it as some kind of utopia first?
There have been plenty of coup d'etat over the years, so what stopped all the amazing freedom from happening? Is it just that none of them sent a clear enough message that the nation turned to shit precisely *because* of the population being unarmed, and had nothing to do with the charismatic psycho cult leader?
13  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 04, 2015, 07:31:58 PM
I find it funny that the woman I know (myself included) are arguing for us to keep our guns, and the men on this forum are arguing over us losing them, yet you blame women.

I would say blame the men who have gone soft and forgotten why we were allowed the right to own guns in the first place.

I find it funny that guns are marketed as tough and manly, when the reality is that gun holders seem so fucking scared all the time.

"I feel so naked without my shiny metal dildo"  Roll Eyes

The corporations are just profiting off of your base instincts, the same way they put cigarettes, gum, chocolates, and Panadol on display near the checkouts in stores, so people have all their impulsive needs met. And the chocolate shelving goes all the way down to the ground, so that tiny kids whose brains haven't fully developed yet get enticed by the bright colours.

Guns. Fear of death. Same shit, different day.
14  Other / Politics & Society / Re: What's your opinion of gun control? on: October 04, 2015, 07:10:57 PM

For the  benefit of those outside the USA, I will say this.  Believers in the second amendment and conceal carry crosses all the political spectrums in the USA. It's only seemingly a political issue at the top, where the media projects opinion and attitude out to the masses.  Or tries to.  Any political goes wacko anti-gun, he gets booted out in short order.  Obama's done it in stealth mode, lying to get elected and then showing his true colors.

Well then you're stuck sleeping in the bed you sharted in.
Populism, population control, and keeping people on their toes, all with the one policy.

Or maybe it's not populism... Are you suggesting that a majority of the "dumb masses" were actually against more gun freedoms, but the politicians weren't? Didn't you mention something about control freaks? Ah, yes...

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But it's a sad and rather tragic thing with these perverted monster control freaks (anti-gun politicians) try to focus their control freakness on firearms.  Seems like that always turns out badly.

Except pretty much everywhere in the developed world outside of America.

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Towns in the Old West handled this on a practical basis.  You went in a bar, you left the guns at the door.

You guys always make the Old West sound so romantic  Wink

Were the musket holders a bit like those wrought iron umbrella stands? And after happy hour, drunken groups would go on a mini safari on horseback, and the one who shot the least Indians had to shout the next round?

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We need to get practical again.  Until the bastards pushing a simplified anti-gun agenda start vocalizing the issue of prescription psychoactive drugs and their various causative effects on crazed killings, there will be no improvement in the statistics.  I'm not optimistic.

That's Libertarianism for ya. Lots of gun freedoms, and the freedom for corporations to run a cynical profit-driven health system.
Oh wait, you'd rather have a slave class, that is forcibly medicated and/or locked up, so their crazy tendencies don't get in the way of your perfectly rational religion?
15  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Chinese warplanes to join Russia in Syria on: October 03, 2015, 11:57:14 PM
So, it is NATO vs China+Russia on Syrian soil ? Awesome... oil price gonna go up again and economin depression would come. Bitcoin, the dark money, will rise again.



This moved is to raise the price of oil and to control the pipelines that would soon goes through Syria to Europe.
So, why China is getting involved ? How do they benefit ?

More profit from the West Chinese province of "Russia".
16  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Nethanyahood is sooo stupid, a typical MUPPET. on: October 01, 2015, 07:57:41 PM
a bad mushroom that he eat by accident Smiley.

Mushrooms in hot climate?

They grow on the bull poop, which he puts in the coke fridge.
17  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fermi Paradox on: October 01, 2015, 06:05:48 PM
https://youtu.be/sNhhvQGsMEc?t=57s


They always make the same mistake when talking about high-speed travel.
Really fast spaceships would appear to take billions of years to reach another galaxy, for observers stuck on Earth. However, the occupants in a relativistic spaceship could experience something completely different: their destination arrives at the blink of an eye, and it (the galaxy) undergoes accelerated ageing, while the passengers stay young.

It seems like a pretty bad side-effect of interstellar travel when everything else gets old around you. And every journey is a one-way trip into the unknown.
18  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Will you support systemic extermination of those behind the fukushima cover up? on: October 01, 2015, 12:33:16 PM
Nobody exterminated the people responsible for Chernobyl and we Europeans still have only one head each Wink

There was a spike in spontaneous abortions all over Europe in 1986, and there was a huge increase in the number of children suffering from leukaemia, deformities, and other genetic illnesses, particularly in Belarus which took most of the fallout. Also, heart disease due to bio-accumulation of cesium.

0.5 million "liquidators" injured or killed (including cancers and early deaths) because of the clean-up operation. It would be interesting to find out the demographics of the soldiers who were ordered to help out.

The information is out there, look it up.

Also, let's not ignore that the rebuilding of the Russian Federation after the collapse of the USSR was (and continues to be) backed-up by its military power, including its nuclear arsenal. How was that arsenal made? By using plutonium factories such as the Chernobyl reactors, located at a safe distance away from Moscow of course.
19  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Fermi Paradox on: October 01, 2015, 11:49:44 AM
"Where is everybody"?

They're all right here on Earth. If there's anything else, then it's unknown.

If we measure ourselves relative to the size of the universe and the Planck length, we might find that we're actually bigger than we are small. If that's the case, then that would make extraterrestrial life intuitively a bit less likely.

In addition, the requirement for extraterrestrial life to be extraterrestrial seems completely arbitrary. If we had been born in a world where a multitude of intelligent species fly around in spaceships and trade baking recipes at the centre of the Milky Way, most likely we'd still be bitching that we're all alone and that the other galaxies are unreachable.

The idea of a pass-fail test for civilisations seems a bit clunky to me. It touches on the same philosophical problem as that of "witnessing one's own demise". If we're too dead to see it, does it really happen? The ability to observe the universe seems to be a fundamental property of its own existence. Schrödinger's cat probably gets really bored after a while.
20  Other / Off-topic / Re: True Love on: October 01, 2015, 09:57:01 AM
TO BLAVE.
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