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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Launching the Antminer L3+, World's Most Powerful and Efficient Litecoin Miner on: April 20, 2018, 02:07:04 AM
L3+ is coming to the doorstop Era  Grin Grin Grin

I've had mine for around 8 months and it took me a little over 2 months to get my money back.


How is that possible?

at one time you could make close to 40 a day with one miner then it went down to 20 and when they first came out i think it was even more .
2  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] S9 x14, L3+ x18, with power supplies on: April 14, 2018, 04:10:57 PM
If I can't sell them at the price I'm asking for then I'll just keep mining with them until I can, they're worth more than what bitmain is selling them for, and when the price of bitcoin goes back up they'll be plenty profitable.

If you're not interested, move along, thanks.

I agree fully once the price of btc goes up so will profits even from older gear that's why i buy cheap now an so will the gear old or used an if you have solar, some one else pays your power bill i hate using the word free for that , or cheap power it shouldn't matter much now .

I'm lucky i have solar and running old or used gear i bought last month. an looking to buy another L3 plus might buy a coupon then buy it .

got any coupon for sell ..
3  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTS] Bitmain 200/100 USD coupons- large quantity available on: April 14, 2018, 04:00:40 PM
I'll take one 200 dollar coupon

pm sent

4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: [Awesome Miner] - Powerful Windows GUI to manage and monitor up to 10000 miners on: April 14, 2018, 01:55:03 PM
Hey another request, this time im being lazy not about to look though 286 pages here Smiley sadly so yell at me if you must .

here goes

can you add  to the Pool balance list it works a lot like mining pool hub does with API key's but only uses two ports to get to get to it that i know of, not sure if that makes it a issue .

5  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer V9 4TH on: April 14, 2018, 12:40:14 AM
I know this is a crazy question, but can anyone let me know if this device supports the cgminer API set like the S9 does?


Yea it does . it use CGminer as the soft ware miner .
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU mining will die in 2018! on: April 13, 2018, 02:06:30 AM

not if i can help it... (Solar Power/Grid Tie FTW)

Same they turned my solar on today .after two months of waiting after it was installed i was so happy i had used 8 bucks so far for the day usages once it was turned on that dropped down to 6 bucks, i also use this  Ted Pro home it actually works and keep good track of min to min to hour to hour as i use it etc ,,, lets me know the second I'm back using the power company worth the 300 bucks it cost when i bought it i think it sells for more now ..
7  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: Best/Cheapest/Easiest GPU Miners on the internet! on: April 10, 2018, 06:18:22 AM
MetaMask believes this domain to have malicious intent and has prevented you from interacting with it.  same as above poster .
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: GPU mining will die in 2018! on: April 08, 2018, 06:47:54 PM
it won't die it may slow down a lot but die nah ...
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: What algorithm is Bitmain secretly mining right now? on: April 08, 2018, 06:40:07 PM
some said Equihash difficulty it going up to fast , so I'd say Equihash what's left ?.
10  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Antminer S9 Firmware Update - Settings Per Chain - ASIC Voltage - Frequency on: April 06, 2018, 01:10:29 AM
Maybe the right question is how much for this ? Grin

122.something us plus vat no idea  why they want a charge me vat im in the US last I looked i don't have to pay it . so i won't be buying it an it looks like they stole some of blissz idea  for the l3 and d3 .....unless it is blissz.
11  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: Antminer S9 Firmware Update - Settings Per Chain - ASIC Voltage - Frequency on: April 06, 2018, 01:08:52 AM
So where is the download link? is it ready for use?
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 03, 2018, 03:34:26 PM
Yesterday the ethereum EIP guys started having much more serious technical discussions about a hard fork.  Maybe this scared Bitmain a little and they released this lame miner to take the pressure off and try to avoid a hard fork.  They probably already have a way more powerful version in the works and are mining with this already given the doubling in hashrate over the past two months.  

Also dont forget.....Halong, Baikal and others will be releasing their versions soon.....just like Cryptonight.

Hark Fork is best solution to kill asics, allow decentralization and reduce risk from mostly one company.

More importantly, we need miners to embrace Ethereum and support it....thus building community.  It should not be underestimated how big of a role that miners play in the success and the popularity of Ethereum.  Miners play a big role in public relations and building community and the ultimate success of Ethereum.  Dont scare them away by only allowing the big boys to play with massive Asic mining factories.

I hope so they can hand butmain there assess for once ......I'll still ASIC mine but won't mine till the used miners sell cheap unless it's cheap LTC or BTC new miners,I'll buy them new but not the GPU killers,I'll buy them used an ...I'll keep building GPU rigs as long as i can ....
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 03, 2018, 03:25:22 PM
180mh at 800w is too close to a 6GPU RX 470/570 rigs numbers ... this makes me extremely suspicious this "ASIC" is just another attempt at putting multiple regular GPU dies on one mainboard PCB, kinda similar to what Pandaminer did with mxm module gpu's, but on a smaller form factor. I would love to see a teardown of these.

I was thinking the same thing only 180 MH @ 800 watts . may be they can't really make a ASIC for eth or it cost to much and this is the best they can do or failed to do and need to sell off  failed samples to make some thing back . i can see why it only cost 800 bucks if they charged any more there would be complaints out the ASS .
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Bitmain E3 Ethash Miner ASIC (Shipping:16-31 July. $800 USD) on: April 03, 2018, 03:19:50 PM

Horrible ROI for a miner thats months away from release.

180 mh/s is barely 170$ a month. By the time they release it if prices dont go up that miner will be worthless. But yeah GPU mining is dead thats the cost of 2 rx 580

The thing is everyone is comparing it to the current (highly inflated) price of GPUs. If it wasn't for the run-up in GPU prices because something like this wasn't available last year those RX580's would probably be going for $150 each by now, so this would actually be more like the cost of 5 of them.

Sure you have the mobo and other stuff to add to the price, but then again that GPU based rig is more flexible in that it can mine other alogs, including new ones that may come out. Also, as others have pointed out, the GPU rig can be parted out and resold if need be, whereas the ASIC is just a paperweight.
So long-term I think this is actually great news, as it isn't quite the GPU killer everyone had feared. It beats out GPU rigs on price alone, but as I stated only because GPU prices are so over inflated right now. Once the E3 hits the market GPU prices will come back down to normal and probably become bargains. At that point I expect you can put together a 6x RX580 rig for closer to $1,100 by then, so it will be a even match considering the GPU rig will have other uses and resale value so worth the extra $300.

The sense able posts GPU mining won't die just be slowed down some and then some thing new comes along it's back full @ force for a while. it's just sad it had to BE eth and Yet to come Zec , I guess they lied about it being ASIC resistant or the money did,it all ways happen that way good intentions at first an then the Money an greed, power steps in and ruins a good thing till the next good thing an then it's the same thing all over again .
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Is ETH upgrading now to PoW/PoS ? on: April 02, 2018, 08:17:28 PM
Reward per blocked reduce !! if that happen then it is time to switch my rigs to another coin or maybe even shut them down all together . The current ROI is a joke can not even think about what the ROI will be after reward reduced . This gonna be a disaster to a lot of GPU miners .  Undecided

may be not's sure better then ASIC killing it at this point till id  say the 2 or 3rd Q prices will stay low so if ROI is your bag GL ....
16  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: Antminer V9 4TH on: April 02, 2018, 07:48:11 PM
How loud are these miners?

Presumably as loud as the S7 miners are.

Indeed they are or as loud as any of the new ones from but main around 76 DB . but you can either make a sound box or buy one off ebay and run it at 100 % an even over clocked it if you want in the box the DB drop to normal levels or were you can sleep in the same room . I made a sound box /hotbox whatever you want a call it for one of my D3's and it works Great .....

My electricity rate up here in Canada is 0.04 kWh so I should definitely be seeing profit.

yes you should right now till id say some time into the 3Q of this year, it won't be much you might even hit ROI if that's your bag or worry because of the price of the miner an depending on what the Diff stays at with them testing new stuff . . with solar it's the same just watch the meters with solar an the disconnect to the power company at nite unless your off the gild  .  . if your power is high without using solar .

The price on these things have really come down.  I just bought a used one for $200 and an APW3++ for $200 off Amazon.  This will be my first foray into bitcoin mining and from the research I did there really isn't any cheaper way to get 4TH/s than an Antminer V9.

an yes again i can't believe there is fools still selling S7 for more then the V9  i just hope whoever buys these things shops and learns not to buy a S7 when the V9 is basically a S7 at a lot cheaper price. it amazes me the greed of some... when there is more then enough to go around .

Moderator's note: This post was edited by frodocooper to correct erroneous quote formatting.
17  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: (Review/Guide) WhatsMiner M3 11.5 Th/s, 2000W Bitcoin (SHA-256) ASIC miner on: March 31, 2018, 12:04:20 AM
That is still kind of expensive with a 2000w power consumption.. sheesh.

yup i was about to say the same thing....     2000 wats to run it an all you get is 11.5 th ,,

why not go for  the avalon 841 13.5 th @ 1290 watts, i can't believe they pass this off as a good thing .

I wouldn't use it if some one gave it to me and i have solar .
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Is the release of a new ASIC for mining Eth a good thing for its price? on: March 30, 2018, 10:21:25 PM
No because those ASIC miners will be useless by December, 2018. Ethereum will be switching to their new PoS system called Casper, remember?

It will also be a losing investment by Bitmain and the rest of the ETH ASIC producers, if you ask me.

I doubt about the news there will be asic miner for eth. Ethereum as far as i know is asic proof because of DAG. But if someone created asoc miner for ethereum it will be obsolete or no one want to buy it. Because people will choose staking their ethereum then mining it.

If such ASIC would be created, which would be good for ETH, it would be loaded with RAM and DRAM.
But not only ETH uses memory intensive mining, so I dont think the investment into such ASIC would be a bad idea.
Even if ETH would switch to PoS, there are other coins to be mined with such an asic, like:
VTC, ETH, XMR, GRS, FTC, AEON, Zencash, Btcz, DMD, NAV, and might be others (these are the ones I found).
While it is true, that ETH might switch to PoS, but there are plenty of other options to mine with a memory-stuffed ASIC.

Note: I only found one rig, Bitmain F3 ASIC Miner, it will come out in 2018 Q2.

Please explain how Destroying mining is a good thing ....? ....  I'm willing to bet your reply is like the Republican's reply here in the US for healthcare , schools etc which is not good for any one but them or your self , ASIC miner will always be bad unless they lower the price of the miners an share the wealth So everyone can enjoy it, there is plenty to go around,they make more money then they will ever need or use in a life time .......
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / US Tech Company Intel Files Patent To crypto mining Energy Use on: March 30, 2018, 10:11:24 PM

US technology company Intel has filed a patent for a Bitcoin (BTC) mining hardware accelerator that would reduce the amount of electricity used in crypto mining by “reducing the space utilized and power consumed by Bitcoin mining hardware,” according to a US Patent and Trademark Office patent application released yesterday, March 29.

The patent, originally filed on Sept. 23 of last year, seeks to solve the “challenge for miners” of “search[ing] through the entire nonce space in a brute force manner while minimizing energy consumption per hash and maximizing performance per watt.”

According to Intel, this can be done by “optimizing the critical paths in the computation intensive message digest and scheduler datapaths,” resulting in “extra time” that can “reduce switching capacitance or scale the supply voltage” to create a “35% combinational power improvement in the message digest logic.”

The mining of Bitcoin, which Intel refers to as the “most popular type of (e.g., unit of) digital currency used in the digital currency eco-system,” needs large amounts of electricity to solve algorithms to mine for the coin. Bitcoin mining energy has been called by some as as an “environmental disaster,” while the other side argues that the possibility of using leftover electricity and renewable energy makes mining a “non-issue” for the environment.

The patent application writes that “because of the large amount of power utilized, and the relatively high cost of that power, mining Bitcoins can be a very costly endeavor. In some embodiments, the cost to mine a single Bitcoin may exceed the value of the mined Bitcoin.”

This negative mining cost ratio, which occurs temporarily during market dips, was pointed out by Fundstrat’s Tom Lee in a report earlier this month.

Intel’s patent application notes that it refers to ASIC implementations for “convenience,” although their system could apply to “any other logic device [...] including, but not limited to Processors, SoCs, and FPGA platforms.”

This patent application is not Intel’s first foray into the crypto sphere. In May of last year, Intel partnered with healthcare transaction service provider and software development firm PokitDok in order to utilize Blockchain technology in the healthcare industry.

In September 2017, Intel announced a collaboration with Chinese media and technology firm Tencent for working on an Internet of Things (IoT) Blockchain solution, and in October, Intel partnered with virtual currency hardware startup firm Ledger in order to use their Blockchain platform for storing crypto holdings.
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: ETH ASIC is this true? on: March 28, 2018, 02:33:24 PM
i can surely answer you the point 3

Once ETH reaches 100 million coins, it's ground for Vitalik to apply PoS. once announced, ASIC miners for ETH would be worth NOTHING. So they need to sell them as soon as possible before PoS is announced.

they've used them as much as possible for a while now. But now they need to get rid of it since PoS is very near. probably they've done the maths, and they've seen that it's more profitable to sell the Asic miner to an ignorant, rather than mining with it at current prices.

No one is going to pay 10K plus for these things. Especially if they hash at the rate people have been throwing around 200-600 MH/s.

Let's take a miner that hashes at 400 MH/s. That will make about $4k a year at today's prices. So, let's use $8K because the prices wasn't this low when this all started, but it also wasn't at it's max either.

Who would pay $6000-$8000 for a device that has a break even of 1 year? I know, someone will but will they be able to sell these things in any sort of volume?

Why would they want to risk all the bad press from the cryptonight miner release? To me it just seems more profitable for them to mine ETH until they can't.

Besides, POS is never going to happen. That is just my opinion. If it does happen it won't be in the next 2 years.

How many of these Asic ETH devices do you think they have? Will they really be able to sell a significant number of them? Maybe if ETH was $1,200... but if ETH is $1,200 it really doesn't make sense to offload them--- especially if POS isn't right around the corner.

Your wrong about one thing some dumb ass fool will pay 12 k because he either can or he thinks he has the edge on some one . but Yea no one in there right mine will or even pay 2 k for one . if it came out as 600 bucks, I won't lie, i would buy one because that's about all there worth to me, IMO there not real ASIC miners if they need DDR memory to allow the ASIC chips to mine ETH . an I don't really see this killing off GPU Mining more like slowing it down some, like it did a few years ago, they kept mining with GPUS building rigs etc till ETH Made it strong or bought it back to some degree you could still make a profit with GPU just couldn't mine BTC or LTC .... when those ASIC Miners came out, which seemed to kill off GPU mining as well as CPU mining but didn't. home mining won't die either unless they start making miner that need 5k watts to run one, i would think that won't happen because of the cost to run it even with cheap power in data mines unless the coins it mines are Worth 100k or more per coin but then again any one with more money then time on there hands will try any thing ..
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