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161  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin: To ASIC, or not to ASIC? on: September 06, 2013, 07:44:18 PM
At this point in the arms race, it's not wise to enter it with a handgun.

Meanwhile, people are paying lots of money for squirt guns, thinking they'll get rich...
162  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit? on: September 06, 2013, 07:39:18 PM
The games people play to try and pretend the USB miners are worth buying make the games that crashed the economy in 2008 look like child's play...
163  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: USB Miner 330 MHs Profit? on: September 06, 2013, 06:34:26 PM
Solar is not "free power" if you calculate the system costs in...
164  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware on: September 06, 2013, 02:02:34 PM
Also whats the most profitable usb now on the market?

There is not one available that is expected to be profitable to run. The only question is how much you will lose.
165  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware on: September 06, 2013, 02:01:39 PM
So is the only reasonable path using gpus?

I can't speak for Litecoin but they're worthless for bitcoin mining right now.
166  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware on: September 05, 2013, 01:10:15 AM
There are plenty of "plug and mine" boxes.

There are no "plug and mine" boxes available currently for anything that may remotely resemble a reasonable return in bitcoin.

Any "plug and mine" box that may actually be worth running is a preorder that may or may not ship.
167  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware on: September 04, 2013, 10:17:31 PM
Well I got two choices. 5+ usb asic miners or  1 gpu because I dont want to invest too much. Any more ideas?

USB miners won't do scrypt.

A GPU is not a USB device.

Have you relaxed your original requirements?
168  Economy / Goods / Re: [FREE]Plantman Andrew's Ghost Chilis (seeds, dried peppers, fresh ground powder) on: September 04, 2013, 06:13:19 PM
I'm in. Smiley  And let me know when you're selling.
169  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Will mining bitcoins be unprofitable in the future? on: September 04, 2013, 04:39:13 PM
In general, I agree with your analysis, and think it's quite reasonable.

However, there really aren't only two options one is forced to take - there is a third, the "Do nothing" or "Buy and hold" option.

If one assumes based on observation that a large number of people will buy miners trying to get ahead, "buy and hold" is the winning option.  Or just hold, if it's bitcoin holdings to start with.

I expect mining to level off eventually (a long while from now - 2-3 years total) with industrial miners (so industrial power built in very cheap electricity areas, racks with power supplies per rack, possibly oil cooling to reduce operating temperatures for overclocking, and generally a PUE around 1.1 or better) barely profitable.  I don't see a way for an individual at home to compete with this profitably.

I expect within another 6 months, the Avalon chips won't be worth running.
170  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware on: September 04, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
Hey! Im new to the whole idea. Just kidding not that new. I am considering buying  miner. I just got two problems. One is that the miner must be a usb miner. And the worst its got to be scrypt compatible which means its got to be able to mine litecoins and etc. Im curious t your guys thoughts. The last request is its got to be under a hundred per unit and worth the money. Well got any ideas?

There is no publicly available USB based miner that can do scrypt/litecoin.

Your request for a USB miner, capable of doing litecoin, for under USD$100, is currently impossible to fill.

Any sort of FPGA litecoin miner, when available, will require RAM as well as the FPGA, and will be over $100.  Also, this does not yet exist in a public form.
171  Economy / Securities / Re: [PicoStocks] 100TH/s bitcoin mine [100th] on: September 04, 2013, 03:02:51 PM
"So long and thanks for all the bitcoin"?

There's still flow into the dividend account, at least.
172  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Will mining bitcoins be unprofitable in the future? on: September 04, 2013, 02:19:27 PM
The fact is, bitcoin mining is an addiction, just like leveling your WoW character or building your epic porn collection.

No, it's not.

The value is in the mined coins, in securing the network, or in some combination of those.

"It's not worth running but I will continue doing so as a donation to the network security" is a reasonable position.

"It's not worth running so I will sell off my hardware" is also a reasonable position, and one I've taken with my FPGAs.

"It's not worth running but Flowers and Puppies and Infinite Bitcoin Price Rises will make it worth it!" is somewhere between insanity and stupidity.  Sadly common, though.

The current market for ASICs only makes sense if you assume that a large percentage of buyers are actually acting irrationally.  It's a weird market to predict now.
173  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB]: Radeon 7970s, reference or DirectCU II. Paying $250/ea, PP or btc. on: September 03, 2013, 11:30:02 PM
i have a 7990 fs  , sapphire 7990, very nice card.

Are you selling it?  If not, why did you post?  I'm not looking for 7990s.
174  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB]: Radeon 7970s, reference or DirectCU II. Paying $250/ea, PP or btc. on: September 03, 2013, 11:11:28 PM
Hi,
I can offer a Gigabyte GV-R7970OC-3GD for sale
Let me know if you are interested
Thanks

I am not unless you are willing to go below $250.  It has a weird aftermarket style cooler that does not work well in server chassis for cooling.
175  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: The mining hardware turndown thread on: September 03, 2013, 10:00:00 PM
whats he using em for?? im sooo intrested!

I think some variety of math.  I really don't know.  Don't care either. Smiley
176  Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining with asics is already dead. on: September 03, 2013, 06:57:43 PM
It has truly become where the people selling the shovels are ripping off the people that are using them to mine with. 

You do realize that the shovel sellers were the most successful businesses in the various gold rushes, and that several large businesses and fortunes were created by selling shovels instead of mining gold?

Same thing applies...
177  Economy / Computer hardware / Re: [WTB]: Radeon 7970s, reference or DirectCU II. Paying $250/ea, PP or btc. on: September 03, 2013, 04:34:20 PM
I have a 7950, that when tweaked i was getting around 650khs (litecoin) for.. would you be interested in that?

No. I'm interested in 7970s only. I'm not mining with them.
178  Economy / Economics / Re: Mt Gox account hacked! on: September 03, 2013, 05:07:41 AM
The good news is that the thief won't be able to get the fiat out for months...
179  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTB]: ZTEX LX75 based dev board or two on: September 03, 2013, 01:22:09 AM
I'm interested in picking up one of the WebPack supported ZTEX boards (so LX75 or below).  I'd prefer one with RAM onboard, though that's not strictly required.

Looking to pay with PayPal or bitcoin.
180  Economy / Computer hardware / [WTB]: Radeon 7970s, reference or DirectCU II. Paying $250/ea, PP or btc. on: September 03, 2013, 01:19:11 AM
Pretty much what the topic says.

I'm offering PayPal or Bitcoin for your 7970s.  $250/card, shipped to 98033 (USA).

The card has to WORK - I 'm not interested in broken or glitchy cards.  I will be testing all cards that come in with a burnin cycle consisting of compute and correctness checking in standard ambient conditions.

PM me if you're interested.
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