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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Bitcoin: To ASIC, or not to ASIC?
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on: September 06, 2013, 07:44:18 PM
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At this point in the arms race, it's not wise to enter it with a handgun. Meanwhile, people are paying lots of money for squirt guns, thinking they'll get rich...
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware
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on: September 06, 2013, 02:02:34 PM
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Also whats the most profitable usb now on the market?
There is not one available that is expected to be profitable to run. The only question is how much you will lose.
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware
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on: September 05, 2013, 01:10:15 AM
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There are plenty of "plug and mine" boxes.
There are no "plug and mine" boxes available currently for anything that may remotely resemble a reasonable return in bitcoin.
Any "plug and mine" box that may actually be worth running is a preorder that may or may not ship.
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware
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on: September 04, 2013, 10:17:31 PM
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Well I got two choices. 5+ usb asic miners or 1 gpu because I dont want to invest too much. Any more ideas?
USB miners won't do scrypt. A GPU is not a USB device. Have you relaxed your original requirements?
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Will mining bitcoins be unprofitable in the future?
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on: September 04, 2013, 04:39:13 PM
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In general, I agree with your analysis, and think it's quite reasonable.
However, there really aren't only two options one is forced to take - there is a third, the "Do nothing" or "Buy and hold" option.
If one assumes based on observation that a large number of people will buy miners trying to get ahead, "buy and hold" is the winning option. Or just hold, if it's bitcoin holdings to start with.
I expect mining to level off eventually (a long while from now - 2-3 years total) with industrial miners (so industrial power built in very cheap electricity areas, racks with power supplies per rack, possibly oil cooling to reduce operating temperatures for overclocking, and generally a PUE around 1.1 or better) barely profitable. I don't see a way for an individual at home to compete with this profitably.
I expect within another 6 months, the Avalon chips won't be worth running.
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Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Need help on picking hardware
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on: September 04, 2013, 04:27:10 PM
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Hey! Im new to the whole idea. Just kidding not that new. I am considering buying miner. I just got two problems. One is that the miner must be a usb miner. And the worst its got to be scrypt compatible which means its got to be able to mine litecoins and etc. Im curious t your guys thoughts. The last request is its got to be under a hundred per unit and worth the money. Well got any ideas?
There is no publicly available USB based miner that can do scrypt/litecoin. Your request for a USB miner, capable of doing litecoin, for under USD$100, is currently impossible to fill. Any sort of FPGA litecoin miner, when available, will require RAM as well as the FPGA, and will be over $100. Also, this does not yet exist in a public form.
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Will mining bitcoins be unprofitable in the future?
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on: September 04, 2013, 02:19:27 PM
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The fact is, bitcoin mining is an addiction, just like leveling your WoW character or building your epic porn collection.
No, it's not. The value is in the mined coins, in securing the network, or in some combination of those. "It's not worth running but I will continue doing so as a donation to the network security" is a reasonable position. "It's not worth running so I will sell off my hardware" is also a reasonable position, and one I've taken with my FPGAs. "It's not worth running but Flowers and Puppies and Infinite Bitcoin Price Rises will make it worth it!" is somewhere between insanity and stupidity. Sadly common, though. The current market for ASICs only makes sense if you assume that a large percentage of buyers are actually acting irrationally. It's a weird market to predict now.
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Bitcoin / Mining speculation / Re: Mining with asics is already dead.
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on: September 03, 2013, 06:57:43 PM
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It has truly become where the people selling the shovels are ripping off the people that are using them to mine with.
You do realize that the shovel sellers were the most successful businesses in the various gold rushes, and that several large businesses and fortunes were created by selling shovels instead of mining gold? Same thing applies...
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Economy / Computer hardware / [WTB]: Radeon 7970s, reference or DirectCU II. Paying $250/ea, PP or btc.
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on: September 03, 2013, 01:19:11 AM
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Pretty much what the topic says.
I'm offering PayPal or Bitcoin for your 7970s. $250/card, shipped to 98033 (USA).
The card has to WORK - I 'm not interested in broken or glitchy cards. I will be testing all cards that come in with a burnin cycle consisting of compute and correctness checking in standard ambient conditions.
PM me if you're interested.
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