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621  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 12, 2017, 06:15:44 PM
You forget a crucial detail: the exchange doesn't send the change back to the original address, it sends it to another address. When you withdraw for the second time, it comes from a different address.

Not true.
First, several exchanges reuse addresses with large amounts of coins.  Same for gambling sites using multisig accounts.  I can prove this with 100% certainty.

No one moves ALL the coins in an address as change to another.  If they did, there would be no reason to even change addresses.

An address having 100 coins normally isn't a single input.  So, if they send you 25 coins, then only the inputs needed to pay you are used and the change of those selected inputs go to a new address.  So, this leaves the majority of coins in the original address.
622  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 12, 2017, 05:07:11 PM
I see that there is another airdrop for Byteball on 9th of next month, got this information from https://www.icocountdown.com/

May I know how many bytes and black bytes will be distributed during this period?

it depends on two factors: 1) amount of btc linked to BB addresses by the time of snapshot 2) the sum of bytes all BB addresses keep by the time of snapshot. Both are changeable cause for example one can buy Gbytes at markets and bring them to his/her wallet

rules for 6th round can be found at http://whatis.wikidot.com/get-gbyte

Just a small correction Smiley 1) is changeable but 2) is not, if people don't buy, then the exchange's wallet will get bytes from the distribution, so the amount of bytes that is going to be distributed depending on bytes in circulation is already known and will always be.

May be wrong, but exchange addresses may be blacklisted from distributions

It's simple.
OP says that if the same address is linked to two different byteball accounts, then the BTC addy is blocked from both.  To fix this (cause you might have made a mistake or tried to claim an exchange address), you must register another BTC address and move the coins there.  (If it's an exchange address, then you can't possibly move all the coins to the newly registered address, unless you actually own them all and made a withdraw from the exchange).   That covers byteball from being hit for double airdrop and rightfully blocks the BTC addy to prevent a large number of people trying to claim exchange/gambling BTC addresses.

That said....
Yes, you can register an exchange address by the following method.
First, you know it's an address from an exchange (or even a gambling site), because you have coins on it.  You make a withdraw to yourself, so you see where it came from so you know how much is in it.    Now, setup a byteball wallet.  transition bot, you give it the address, and it says to send a small payment to an address.  On the exchange, you withdraw the specific amount to the byteball transition bot.  If the exchange uses that wallet to pay you (the bot), then the bot believes you own that address.   So, if no one else does this, then you just scored free bytes/blackbytes during that snapshot.

623  Bitcoin / Mycelium / Re: Mycelium Bitcoin Wallet on: May 12, 2017, 01:07:01 PM
Moral of the story: DON'T collect dust.

Or collect dust into an old-fashioned single-address wallet or perhaps into a paper wallet. Would that work better? If so, then the moral could be amended to, "Don't collect dust into a HD wallet."

No.

50 inputs is still 50 inputs.  It doesn't matter if it's a single bitcoin address or 50 different addresses.

Example.... a 50cent coin (1 input) takes a lot less space, easier to count, move and spend than 50 pennies (50 inputs).
624  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 12, 2017, 07:07:32 AM

Thanks for answering: with the bolded part you mean you manually copy/pasted the c/users/userrname/byteball folders in a safe place before running installer.
If it's the case: does this "manual backup" + seed backup allow to recover GB and GBB stored in wallet?

yes.

I have a few wallets in the directory.   named byteball0, byteball1, etc etc.
When I want to see a specific wallet, I rename it to simply byteball
then I open the app and all good.  When done, I rename it back.

As for copy, you can simply right click the folder, select copy, then right click and say paste.
windows makes a new folder but adds - Copy   to the name.  Or, you can copy it to another folder or drive directly.   Everything needed is in the folder.

This manual backup is all you need (that I know of - not a seed).
625  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 12, 2017, 05:58:56 AM
I am unable to make a full backup of my recently installed wallet so am worried to do something wrong during upgrade process: may someone please explain with some details how to upgrade from 1.8.2 to 1.8.3?

Do I just have to run installer over the previous version or what?

How may I stay in a safe position without beig able to make a full backup before upgrading?


Close down byteball, run the installer.

I just confirmed on 2x windows machines.  No problem.

(Admittedly, I made a backup of the full directory prior to doing the upgrade - ya know, just in case).

Now running version 1.8.3.
- Also confirmed that switching byteball wallets (directories) is no problem either (both between full and lite wallets as well).

626  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 12, 2017, 05:54:13 AM
Any news about blackbytes distribution? ... No blackbytes yet...   Huh

How many times are you going to complain that you haven't received your free blackbytes yet? 
Why ask the question if you haven't bothered reading the posts yet?

Plenty of news and responses.
Most, if not all, have received them already.

627  Other / Meta / Re: Get Donator status by donating 10 BTC on: May 12, 2017, 05:48:59 AM

I saw the list, and donated 50 btс. But I can not even collect 10 here. I hope there are real philanthropists. Thank you in advance ..


If you're going to claim to have donated 50 BTC, you should be on the list and/or able to prove it.

Do you honestly want people to believe you donated 50 BTC, but you're asking for free coins?  Ha.  Funny first posts by you.
628  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 12, 2017, 05:29:38 AM
Thanks, got the bytes! waiting for GBBs.

I'm happy that the overall distribution will be accelerated by the doubling at the next round! With that the coin's value shoud settle faster.

Uhhh, NO.

They are not doubling the distribution.
Byteball is doubling the BONUS at the next distribution.
- Instead of a bonus of 10% of your byteball balance, you get a 20% bonus.

So, if you have a balance of 1 byteball now, you will get a multiplier of 1.2 on the next full moon (distribution) = You will have 1.2 byteballs.


Let's say for this distribution (May 10th) you had 16BTC linked.
You received (16*.0625 =) 1 byteball.
So, if your balances don't change for the next distribution (June 9th), you will get.....
(16*.0625 =) 1 byteball + 20% increase of your prior balance (1 byteball from May 10th = .2 byteball)
- Your new balance will be a total of   2.2 byteball

Another way to look at it:

1 byteball (May 10th)
1 byteball (June 9th) + 20% of 1 byteball from May 10th
------------------------------------------------------------------
2.2 byteball total



629  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 10:04:24 PM
So I uninstalled/cleaned PC for Byteball files/downloaded/reinstalled Byteball AGAIN on my Windows 10 Pro 64 Bit. Still crashes directly after starting up. Would be nice if I could get some support here. Not impressed so far.

Just installed on a Win10Pro64 myself as a test.  Took 4-5 mins to install.   Set to lite wallet.  Took about 20 seconds to sync.
630  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 07:56:20 PM
Still no blackbytes, how much are they worth anyway per 1 btc snapshot?

Someone answered before but answered about byteball not blackbytes.

The very first post.


The snapshots for the 5th round will be taken on the Full Moon of May, on May 10, 2017 at 21:42 UTC.  This is what you receive:
BTC to bytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 62.5 MB (0.0625 GB)
BTC to blackbytes: 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 2.1111 * 62.5 million blackbytes (money supply of blackbytes is 2.1111 times more than that of bytes)
Bytes to bytes: 1 byte on any Byteball address gives you 0.1 new bytes
Bytes to blackbytes: 1 byte on linked Byteball address gives you 0.21111 blackbytes

631  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 07:52:55 PM
Thanks, got the bytes! waiting for GBBs.

I'm happy that the overall distribution will be accelerated by the doubling at the next round! With that the coin's value shoud settle faster.

Doubling next round? Where did they say that?
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1608859.msg18963073#msg18963073

It was promised that the distribution formula will change in the future rounds to give more new Bytes to current Byte holders relative to BTC holders.

On June 9 we'll have the 6th round of distribution, and after more than 4 months in the wild and having survived multiple post-distribution dumps, I think now it feels safer than before to participate in the distribution with Bytes, that's why the formula will change in favor of Byte-holders.  Also, I want to accelerate the distribution to minimize the perceived uncertainty connected with undistributed coins.

So, these are the rules for the distribution on June 9 (nothing changes for the today's round):

BTC to bytes: (no change) 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 62.5 MB (0.0625 GB)
BTC to blackbytes: (no change) 1 BTC of proven balance gives you 2.1111 * 62.5 million blackbytes (money supply of blackbytes is 2.1111 times more than that of bytes)
Bytes to bytes: (2x increase) 1 byte on any Byteball address gives you 0.2 new bytes
Bytes to blackbytes: (2x increase) 1 byte on linked Byteball address gives you 0.42222 blackbytes

632  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 04:21:44 PM
I got Byteballs, but not any blackballs. Are they sent at the same time?

No
633  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 03:30:01 PM
I also signed with several BTC keys and the bot confirmed all the balances ...  have not received anything at all.
byteball v 1.8.2 on osx ..  


Everyone bitching, but not one has shown a single address they believe they registered.

Just 1 BTC addy shown and we can see if registered and if coins in it.   Or, just PM me and I can check.

or... check for yourself...
http://transition.byteball.org/
Top right has a search box.  Just fill in your BTC addy to see if registered.

If so, then check a blockchain explorer to see if coins are in the addy AND confirmed at the time of the snapshot block.
634  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 0 received on: May 11, 2017, 02:27:36 PM
Hi,

I received 0 in this airdrop, despite having linked everything and sent all BTC to that linked address. I wrote to the email address on the byteball hp. anything else I can do about it?



Are u synced? Check your address on explorer https://explorer.byteball.org/

I did everything as the bot asked me to. even got this message:

Your payment from xxx has 1 confirmations now.

Please make sure that xxx is indeed your address and move all your coins to this address. You receive 62.5 MB and 131,943,750 blackbytes for each 1 BTC of the total balance of this Bitcoin address on May 10.

Current balance of this address is 0 BTC.


I have sent the BTC in time 12 hours before the snapshot to the BTC address. My address is not in that explorer.... I am sure I did everything right, as I told my friends how to do it, and they all received their free coins

If you did everything  as the bot said correctly, then you would have byteball like everyone else.  There was an issue which we can't see without more info.
Without any real information, no one can see what happened.

You're gonna have to tell use your BB address or BTC address.
635  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 07:53:45 AM
One more try.  Grin

1. I created Copay wallet. It contained 1 address (AAAAA).
2. I sent 8 BTC to AAAAA
3. Then I sent 0.001xxx BTC from AAAAA to Byteball
4. What Copay did:
   a) They sent 0.001xxx BTC from AAAAA to Byteball
   b) They sent 0.05 BTC from AAAAA to BBBBB (I never did this transaction - it's done automatically for what ever reason)
5. Now I have two addresses in my Copay wallet (AAAAA with 7.949 BTC + BBBBB with 0.05 BTC)
6. How do I get the BTC from BBBBB to AAAAA?

I hope this makes it clear.

This is not correctly.  You could not have put in 8 btc and only sent out .05.
There has to be input and output.
So, I think you have several small transactions going into AAAAA and the wallet app took the closest matching which was close to the TX you wanted to make.  it was done and then a fee was paid and the rest of the change went back to another address.

What is the Transaction ID for your step 3?
636  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 07:48:22 AM

Read at LEAST a couple of pages back on a forum thread before posting questions that were just answered.

That said, you don't get free byteballs for simply linking an address.  You had to actually own bitcoin in that address at the time of the snapshot.  And, the byteballs haven't been dropped yet.

of course i know that, this is implicit, i linked it with an address with two bitcoin, but still zero balance on my wallet

So, you ignored the posts about the distribution happening sometime "tomorrow morning" which is today?
637  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 07:04:04 AM
hello, i tried the android apps, am i need to send btc to claim the byte ball ? or i can claim it with only sign address ?

It's too late for this round which happened today.  Next one in a month.

You need to send btc to the bitcoin address that you register with the byteball transition bot.  You register that address by sending a small amount to where it says OR by signing from that bitcoin address.
638  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 06:07:16 AM
so i linked my btc address but didn't receive anything, what i'm missing? i still have 0 byteball in my wallet, the last thign the bot said is move your bytes to the linked address etc..., what i need to do?

Read at LEAST a couple of pages back on a forum thread before posting questions that were just answered.

That said, you don't get free byteballs for simply linking an address.  You had to actually own bitcoin in that address at the time of the snapshot.  And, the byteballs haven't been dropped yet.
639  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 11, 2017, 05:22:44 AM
People really complaining about not receiving PHREE moniez yet?   Geesh.
640  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: BYTEBALL: Totally new consensus algorithm + private untraceable payments on: May 10, 2017, 10:42:45 PM
Hey Michail. No. It's like what I said. I had 1 address in my CoPay wallet.
I send 0.001 from it. But what CoPay did: It sent the 0.001 + 0.05 to a new adress which contains now to my wallet.
The 0.05 are still mine. But now I don't know how to get the 0.05 back to my big address.

Which is what I said.  Change address.

But, without seeing the transaction ID, it's hard to explain/guess.  You're welcome to message me directly to work through this, but asking in a forum without any information is simply going to get a lot of guessing done.   What you think and what I think are simply guesswork until we're both looking at the same thing.
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