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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 17, 2021, 04:14:05 PM
haha yeah exactly what i tryed to do xD
My next goal is to do a cashout to see if it works then i can make a real rig cause it's not easy to do that where i live, all payement way is locked or don't accept my identity cause my country "Morocco" does not accept dealing with cryptocurrency (-__-) so must find a way to handle this.
After that i can chase left graphic cards still in market.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 16, 2021, 08:12:59 PM
Well thanks for trying my advice out.

Most likely the gear was over clocked and tossing errors.

So you now help the card run at a more relaxed and error free speed.

Mining is so profitable right now that the only way to fuck up mining is to burn out the card.

My fear was you were going to do that with the 116% power setting.

 I have a rig with 3x 3080 cards.


Eth speed: 273.408 MH/s, shares: 904/1/0, time: 1:30

GPUs: 1: 91.497 MH/s (289) 2: 90.427 MH/s (295) 3: 91.483 MH/s (321)

GPU1: 64C 79% 222W, GPU2: 61C 77% 222W, GPU3: 53C 77% 222W

GPUs power: 665.3 W

note the 904/1/0 only 1 lost share as I make clocks gentler.

the cards do 91-93 each .  and just run

if your card can do a relaxed  25.5 and makes 1 of 500 errors

it is better than a stressed 26.5 and making 60 of 500 errors

more money  is made as 499/500 x 25.5 = 25.449 net on lower power

vs  440/500 x 26.5 = 23.32 net on higher power.


Plus killing the card is more likely at 116% power vs 100% power.

Same for ram.

 maybe 980 ram vs 1000
 maybe 900 ram vs 1000
 maybe 850 ram vs 1000
 maybe 800 ram vs 1000

great setting may be 95% power 950 ram or 90% power 900 ram

play with power

100% at ram of 1000,950,900,850,800.   so you  tested this at 1000 ram try the other rams

 then play with this one

 95% at ram of   "       "     "     "     "



 
then play with this one
 90% at ram of  "       "     "     "      "


then this one
 85% at ram of   "     "      "    "      " 


That is a lot of tests about 20 of them but even if you just do

100%. 1000 ram 950 ram 900 ram
 95%.  1000 ram 950 ram 900 ram


you will know you did some good testing. with 6 different settings






Hi dear Philip

Thank you, you just save my little card from being burned out as i used max limit of power.
I'll definitely try the settings you told me, good luck in your mining dude  Grin
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 16, 2021, 03:10:09 PM
Yeah i think so "Aero cool" is a crappy psu and though it does only have 1 connector of gpu, i did'nt make attention to that  Cry

is this the psu

https://aerocool.io/product/aero-bronze-650w/


adding this adapter would let you do a second 1060

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-GeForce-Gigabyte-Sapphire-Graphics/dp/B078W7W8L2/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

clock the gpu to 80 watts or so. you should be fine.

Hi Philip

Thank you for your response, yes it's same as the one in the link, then you encourage me to use a seconds graphic card, but i don't know about using 80wat for my gpu
Is it in oc tool ?  i use msi afterburner and there is Core Voltage in % as 0 value
here is my oc config


First off let me give you credit for asking about your settings.


And oh my god wtf are you doing look at your power number 116%

give me a minute to fix this for you
power limit needs to be 70 not 116 this was a really bad setting




core clock  can be +0 like it is
core volts can be +0 like it is

power limit needs to be 70 not 116 this was a really bad setting
ram can be +600 to + 850 not + 1000
temp limit of 75c vs 92c

fan in the 60-80 range

microvolt is 1049 if you lower power setting to 70 I think that will self lower

the key is drop the  power limit down to 70
and drop the ram down to say 800




Yo Philip
Thank you for the time you gives me and for tips, but when i used the settings you told me i got a lower rate 22.44 mhs OMG



but when i used mine, dude it rock like a hell, 26.2 Mhs



I have a Gtx 1060 6gb super clocked, already overclocked by factory, that why i can't increase core clock it crash my pc instantly
But what about Memory clock, i've seen in internet that we use the stable value and in fact 1000 is stable.
Power limit does unlock my gpu and can reach  26.2 otherwize it crash my pc cause not enough power i guess
Fan speed is on Auto most of time 50, if i do like you told me i need to fix it to a specifi value, but what happen if it need more fan, i tough fixing this value is bad thing is int it ?

About Power limit, i think you wanted to say that it's about efficiency and power comsumption right ? if it so well in reality i use a shared electricity with some dudes and it's not a big deal if it needs more power as long as it gives me more mhs but in fact i still pay the shared bill with the others but i think it's more profitable like that !!

waiting for your response.

so do everything the same but try 90% power.  see your hash rate then

I could give two fucks about watts per hash.

What matters is not killing  off gear.

no mining gpu should ever run at max power. it simply kills off the gear.

Hi

I reduced my setting as shown in picture



And my hashrate has reduced in the miner but not in the stats in the pool ethermine.org



there's event improvement in the Estimated Earnings 0.00151 ETH per day (before it was 0.00147 ETH with a higher hashrate)
So i don't understand the fact that before i use 26.5 mhs using agressive oc and result to less earning and now with low oc setting it tells me that i earn more, what's the point ?!!
Is its stales that are less happening ? cause i don't know which criteria should i take

I'll try reduce memory clock to 800 and see if there's some improovement maybe power limite to 90% regardless of hashrate and see
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 13, 2021, 10:06:07 PM
Yeah i think so "Aero cool" is a crappy psu and though it does only have 1 connector of gpu, i did'nt make attention to that  Cry

is this the psu

https://aerocool.io/product/aero-bronze-650w/


adding this adapter would let you do a second 1060

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-GeForce-Gigabyte-Sapphire-Graphics/dp/B078W7W8L2/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

clock the gpu to 80 watts or so. you should be fine.

Hi Philip

Thank you for your response, yes it's same as the one in the link, then you encourage me to use a seconds graphic card, but i don't know about using 80wat for my gpu
Is it in oc tool ?  i use msi afterburner and there is Core Voltage in % as 0 value
here is my oc config


First off let me give you credit for asking about your settings.


And oh my god wtf are you doing look at your power number 116%

give me a minute to fix this for you
power limit needs to be 70 not 116 this was a really bad setting




core clock  can be +0 like it is
core volts can be +0 like it is

power limit needs to be 70 not 116 this was a really bad setting
ram can be +600 to + 850 not + 1000
temp limit of 75c vs 92c

fan in the 60-80 range

microvolt is 1049 if you lower power setting to 70 I think that will self lower

the key is drop the  power limit down to 70
and drop the ram down to say 800




Yo Philip
Thank you for the time you gives me and for tips, but when i used the settings you told me i got a lower rate 22.44 mhs OMG



but when i used mine, dude it rock like a hell, 26.2 Mhs



I have a Gtx 1060 6gb super clocked, already overclocked by factory, that why i can't increase core clock it crash my pc instantly
But what about Memory clock, i've seen in internet that we use the stable value and in fact 1000 is stable.
Power limit does unlock my gpu and can reach  26.2 otherwize it crash my pc cause not enough power i guess
Fan speed is on Auto most of time 50, if i do like you told me i need to fix it to a specifi value, but what happen if it need more fan, i tough fixing this value is bad thing is int it ?

About Power limit, i think you wanted to say that it's about efficiency and power comsumption right ? if it so well in reality i use a shared electricity with some dudes and it's not a big deal if it needs more power as long as it gives me more mhs but in fact i still pay the shared bill with the others but i think it's more profitable like that !!

waiting for your response.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 13, 2021, 09:27:34 PM
Back in 2014 I was cheap and instead of buying quality PSUs I would use these no name type of low quality PSUs which were like 450Watts max. I had tons of these because they generally were always included in a computer case and I never used them.

They only had 1 PCIe connector but you would easily make another PCIe connector if you rewired some of the other unused plugs. Keep in mind I used this to run an Antminer not power a GPU rig.

The issue was that the efficiency was crazy bad. It was like 65% or something. So if you are pulling 100 Watts from the wall, 35 Watts  is basically lost as heat and only 65 Watts went to power my Antminers.

They also usually only lasted 2 weeks and then would just die. I didn't even run them at 100% load, maybe 70% load and they just died shortly after. I think they are mostly for housewives who use their computer to browse facebook and pull less than 40 watts total from the PSU. But for mining... forget about it.

Hi Adaseb

Well yeah my pc was for gaming, but as games sucks today at least for me "prefer metal  gear solid 1000 times than the latest metal gear" i switch it to mining, and my first psu just died like in 2 years i think and i just buy another crappy psu -__-

Thank for your advice and experiance, i really appreciate that.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 12, 2021, 05:15:03 PM
Hi

I want to add a second graphic card to my pc to mine ethereum.
I have already a pc with Gtx 1060 6gb sc that i use for mining and i want to add another gtx 1060 6gb.

So my question is about my psu, i have a Aero cool 650wat, how do i calculate how many graphic card i can use depending on my power.

My second question is about graphic card choice, is it ok to use another range like gtx 1070 ti ?
If so should one miner per graphic card or one to handle them  both ?

I use PhoenixMiner and Gminer (i alternate to test them xD)

Thank you in advance for your time to respond me.

Yes you can, even running 3gpus still doable but not good for long term health of your psu, best advice is using only 50% of psu capacity and thats the peak efficiency for psu

Thank you Fmz, i think i am gonna do it, but what about cooling, is it enough if i left the left panel side of my pc open or should i use extra fan ?

thanx in advance
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 12, 2021, 05:12:40 PM
Yeah i think so "Aero cool" is a crappy psu and though it does only have 1 connector of gpu, i did'nt make attention to that  Cry

is this the psu

https://aerocool.io/product/aero-bronze-650w/


adding this adapter would let you do a second 1060

https://www.amazon.com/CableCreation-GeForce-Gigabyte-Sapphire-Graphics/dp/B078W7W8L2/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?

clock the gpu to 80 watts or so. you should be fine.

Hi Philip

Thank you for your response, yes it's same as the one in the link, then you encourage me to use a seconds graphic card, but i don't know about using 80wat for my gpu
Is it in oc tool ?  i use msi afterburner and there is Core Voltage in % as 0 value
here is my oc config
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 12, 2021, 07:26:18 AM
Yeah i think so "Aero cool" is a crappy psu and though it does only have 1 connector of gpu, i did'nt make attention to that  Cry
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / can i add extra graphic card with my psu 650wat Aerocool on: March 11, 2021, 10:21:23 PM
Hi

I want to add a second graphic card to my pc to mine ethereum.
I have already a pc with Gtx 1060 6gb sc that i use for mining and i want to add another gtx 1060 6gb.

So my question is about my psu, i have a Aero cool 650wat, how do i calculate how many graphic card i can use depending on my power.

My second question is about graphic card choice, is it ok to use another range like gtx 1070 ti ?
If so should one miner per graphic card or one to handle them  both ?

I use PhoenixMiner and Gminer (i alternate to test them xD)

Thank you in advance for your time to respond me.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / How to monitor my stats current vs reported vs averrage vs number of shares ? on: February 27, 2021, 11:03:27 AM
Hello

I can't decide between Phoenixminer and Gminer, in some article i read that mh/s in Phoenixminer is a bit increased and does not reflect the trute, and kinda have feeling that Phoenixminer does generate more stales than Gminer ofthen (well stil 2 stales max in 8 hours).

So my question is how to make my choice ?
Is it based on mh/s ?   Phoenixminer reach 26.555 , Gminer 26.300

---- Phoenixminer log (mh/s is lower when I am using my pc) ----
Eth: Maximum difficulty of found share: 475.6 GH (!)
Eth: Average speed (5 min): 25.415 MH/s
Eth: Effective speed: 26.10 MH/s; at pool: 26.10 MH/s

Eth speed: 25.484 MH/s, shares: 96/0/0, time: 4:03


I stop Phoenixminer and launche Gminer

---- Gminer ------
+------+----+-----+-----------+------+----+-----+-----+-----------+
|  GPU  Temp  Fan     Speed    Shares Core  Mem  Power Efficiency |
+------+----+-----+-----------+------+----+-----+-----+-----------+
|  GPU0 66 C  47 %  25.35 MH/s  1/0/0 1949  4799   N/A        N/A |
+------+----+-----+-----------+------+----+-----+-----+-----------+


Bellow a grah of my Gminer data for yesterday and Phoenixminer for last 4 hours

https://ibb.co/WD0R3MC

What criteria should I be interested about ? current hashrate, average, reported maybe should i count how many shares generated by Gminer vs Phoenixminer during specific time in term of code speed and efficiency

Gtx 1060 6gb superclocked (+0 coreclock, +1000 memoryclock)

Any advice how to monitor my stats?
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: what does mean shares: x/y/z in Pheonixminer on: February 23, 2021, 02:28:03 PM
1% stale is no issue.  You are better in this case to have fewer rejected shares.  In the case of the 134/1/81...that 81 is almost 40% of your shares...so 2mhs doesnt help if you are losing 4 out of 10 shares.  I would need to know gpu and oc settings to advise what to lower.  But definetly too high one or both... core/memory.

hi i use gtx 1060 6gb sc with 2 overclock configs

low config use +0 core clock which it does not crash my computer, + 1000 memory clock
high config use +100 core clock +1000 memory clock

My gtx 1060 is superclocked so i can't increase core clock much without it crash my pc WHEN i work on it

when i work on my computer i use the low config to prevent my pc from crashing it goes for 25.9 mh/s
when i go to sleep i leave my pc on screen saver and i use high config and it did not crash my pc when it's on screen saver. it goes for 26.550 mh/s

so the data i mention 134/1/81 is when it was on the high config
I did'nt test when using low config to check if i have less rejected shares, i'll test this night and see.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: what does mean shares: x/y/z in Pheonixminer on: February 23, 2021, 12:21:08 PM
134 accepted shares / 1 stale / 81 invalid-rejected


Here is one off a rig of 1070/1080's

Eth speed: 165.945 MH/s, shares: 1015/0/0, time: 6:58

Something is up with your last number...either internet is spotty (wifi is sometimes an issue i prefer ethernet cable) or OC is too high.  


hi
I use ethernet cable but about oc yes i can say that it's in the very limit of it.
what should i have, invalid-rejected should be 0 or very less number ?
Should i decrease my oc ? core and memory clock ?
If i decrease oc then my mh will decrease too, is it better to have 26.5 mh/s with invalid/rejected shares or 24 mh/s with less invalid/rejected shares ?

for 1 stale i guess ethermine.org "eu1.ethermine.org:14444" does not support long pool i think which lead me to think if i should move to another pool, but 1 stale i think is not bad

thank you in advance
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / what does mean shares: x/y/z in Pheonixminer on: February 22, 2021, 07:38:12 PM
Hi
I tryed googling this but i can't seem's to figure out what does values (134/1/81) in Eth speed: 26.225 MH/s, shares: 134/1/81, time: 7:28 mean ?
it grow and when i restart miner it reset (obviously).
Then is it better to let my miner always running or if i restart it for will decrease my earning ? "some time I need to reboot my computer or test new overclocking or another miner".

Best Regards
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: why hashrate is go increased in screen saver ? on: February 22, 2021, 07:16:00 PM
The option to activate or deactivate dedicated GPU in BIOS may not be available if your CPU doesn't have any integrated GPU on board my question is what type of CPU are you using are you sure it has integrated GPU cos not all CPU has integrated GPU you have to figure that out first

I do have a gpu on board "Intel(R) HD Graphics" and it works when i unplug dedicated gpu but can't make them work together maybe it's bios limitation can't enable options in bios and my motherboard is Gateway Dt71 already try their new bios version of 2012 -__-.

My cpu is i7 2600
I don't know what is going on here but I can see that it's your motherboard issue because I have a motherboard here and the BIOS has no settings to activate or deactivate igpu or even graphics card but still whenever I connect my HDMI cable direct to the motherboard I always get a display even when my graphics card is connected

Yeah Furryball it depend on the motherboard, some allow the integrated gpu to work aswell as dedicated one same time, not the case for me unfortunatly
How about if OP can upgrade the motherboard BIOS first before concluding that it's not working? there are some motherboards like that, after you upgrade the BIOS it will start working or the on-and-off button of PCIe and igpu will be visible, don't give up yet OP


Thank you Apostlekin for encouragement  Grin
But my motherboard sucks, i already apply there second and final flash bois 2012 -___- nothing changed, instead to buy another motherboard just to free some ressources better buy another graphic card but it's not the time to buy anyone now, let's see when my 25mh/s will brough me a new graphic card  Embarrassed (i think the exact time when i'll lose the first one xD)
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: why hashrate is go increased in screen saver ? on: February 22, 2021, 04:11:25 PM
The option to activate or deactivate dedicated GPU in BIOS may not be available if your CPU doesn't have any integrated GPU on board my question is what type of CPU are you using are you sure it has integrated GPU cos not all CPU has integrated GPU you have to figure that out first

I do have a gpu on board "Intel(R) HD Graphics" and it works when i unplug dedicated gpu but can't make them work together maybe it's bios limitation can't enable options in bios and my motherboard is Gateway Dt71 already try their new bios version of 2012 -__-.

My cpu is i7 2600
I don't know what is going on here but I can see that it's your motherboard issue because I have a motherboard here and the BIOS has no settings to activate or deactivate igpu or even graphics card but still whenever I connect my HDMI cable direct to the motherboard I always get a display even when my graphics card is connected

Yeah Furryball it depend on the motherboard, some allow the integrated gpu to work aswell as dedicated one same time, not the case for me unfortunatly
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: why hashrate is go increased in screen saver ? on: February 21, 2021, 10:12:08 PM
The option to activate or deactivate dedicated GPU in BIOS may not be available if your CPU doesn't have any integrated GPU on board my question is what type of CPU are you using are you sure it has integrated GPU cos not all CPU has integrated GPU you have to figure that out first

I do have a gpu on board "Intel(R) HD Graphics" and it works when i unplug dedicated gpu but can't make them work together maybe it's bios limitation can't enable options in bios and my motherboard is Gateway Dt71 already try their new bios version of 2012 -__-.

My cpu is i7 2600
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: why hashrate is go increased in screen saver ? on: February 21, 2021, 08:42:08 PM
To give you a correct answer I will like to know the name of the GPU you are using to mine, also pools are of different types, I've noticed that if you are solving shares on pool your hashrate report may grow higher, it still doesn't mean anything, if your calculator said you will earn 5$ per day the end result after 24hours will bring you 5$ per day

unfortunatly i can't use onboard graphic card, dedicated one deactivate my onboard, can't enable it in bios too, old bios i think

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5318742.0
18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: why hashrate is go increased in screen saver ? on: February 21, 2021, 08:30:16 PM
To give you a correct answer I will like to know the name of the GPU you are using to mine, also pools are of different types, I've noticed that if you are solving shares on pool your hashrate report may grow higher, it still doesn't mean anything, if your calculator said you will earn 5$ per day the end result after 24hours will bring you 5$ per day

Hi i use gtx 1060 6gb sc, eu1.ethermine.org
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / why hashrate is go increased in screen saver ? on: February 21, 2021, 12:53:34 PM
Hi

I have seen a significant increase of hashrate when my computer go to screen saver from 24 to 26.550, i wonder know why, is it because computer use less ressources ? if so then how can i go further ? by deactivating some ressources or other staff ?
Or is it because when screen saver is on the gpu is not used by windows then it free some ressources dedicated to gpu ?

Second question
I want to understand difference between current hashrate and reported hashrate, which one is counted ?
I have found a highest current hashrate to 44.778 Mhs what is that mean ? see picture bellow



Average is 27 and current hashrate to 44.778 as higher current hashrate.

any explanation ?

Best Regards
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: how to use integrated graphic card for os and dedicated card for mining ? on: February 21, 2021, 10:14:59 AM
thank you Ken_terrance for advice  Cheesy
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