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121  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io - Lightning Network Casino - INSTANT & ZERO FEE Payments ⚡️⚡️ on: May 07, 2021, 09:21:54 PM
Hi Cryptoperkele (Finnish I presume?  Grin)
There is no official roadmap right now, but we are currently working on a VIP level & bonus program that we hope to roll out in a couple of weeks Cool

I'm afraid we don't have any mining and it's not on the roadmap right now anyway.
122  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io - Lightning Network Casino - INSTANT & ZERO FEE Payments ⚡️⚡️ on: May 07, 2021, 06:53:04 PM
I don't really have any further details on the Phoenix issue that happens, but I know that the payment team have been talking directly with the Phoenix guys to try and sort it out.

If you enter the same amount in the invoice as in the withdraw then it will work as well. But if they mismatch then the payment will be failed and refunded to your player account.

Will take a look again at Blue Wallet, if not possible to not enter amount then maybe we need to amend the instructions to leave amount open or enter the same amount.
123  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io - Lightning Network Casino - INSTANT & ZERO FEE Payments ⚡️⚡️ on: May 07, 2021, 04:16:55 PM
We are looking at options for sports betting  Wink Wink
124  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io - Lightning Network Casino - INSTANT & ZERO FEE Payments ⚡️⚡️ on: May 07, 2021, 03:52:34 PM
Hi LoyceV
Thank your for testing our the site and giving some really good feedback!

In regards to being first, most sites offering gambling that had lightning only offered one or two games. We don't really consider this to be a casino where you have slots, table games, live casino games, virtual racing etc. I guess you could argue that definition but that's way we see it.

The thought & suggestions are really good; email, wording and max button will be addressed shortly. It would be nice to fully support TOR, we don't have too much experience with it but it might be something we can look at in the near future.

Micro should really be μ as you say, in the games though we can't really control it as it comes from game providers. But on the site we can, so we will change it  Smiley

Regarding the LN withdraw, we got an error from our node that it was unable to route the payment ("Unable to find a path to destination"). We have seen this happen a handful of times and it is always when using Phoenix Wallet for withdrawals. I am not sure exactly why, I know the dev team have been in contact with the developers on Phoenix to try and sort it out but so far it still seems to happen. Your withdraw was eventually resolved and money was returned. The routing issue happens after a payment has been approved, which is why you got an approved message but actual funds failed to route. This happens very rarely, but we will look into to trying to make sure the routing was successful before notifying the player in the future.

We never had a routing issue with Wallet of Satoshi or Blue Wallet for instance, so I don't really want to recommed to switch wallet - but they seem to work better for some reason, maybe Phoenix wallet being non-custodial makes routing in to the wallet more complicated   Undecided


125  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io - Lightning Network Casino - INSTANT & ZERO FEE Payments ⚡️⚡️ on: April 21, 2021, 03:22:58 AM
We are happy to announce support for bitcoin deposits & withdrawals using Liquid Network at Betplay.io. Given the increasing fees and mempool in the main chain we want to offer our users faster & cheaper payment options and seeing how well Bitcoin Lightning is working we think this can be a great complement to that for users who prefer using Liquid instead.
you have a good improvement when create deposits using Liquid network, some people didn't how it works cause this little bit different from the lightning network. better to you create on FAQ also in the website.

you use (uBTC) or called you-bit btc. I also suggest you add currency setting (uBTC) to another unit such as satoshi to avoid confusion by beginer.



Great advise, thank you!



⚡️Betplay.io now live! ⚡️



Hi all,

We have just gone live with our brand new Crypto currency casino, Betplay.io!

We are the industry first to announce ⚡️Bitcoin Lightning Payment⚡️, this means that you can now both deposit and withdraw your money in seconds!


Welcome to Bitcointalk.org Forum Guys and I was just checked the site now and this amazed me because My kind is just starting to Learn Lightning Network and while you are accepting this then I'll be trying my chance to learn this.


Great stuff! It's very easy to learn, and once you have, it will make your gaming session a lot quicker, smoother and cheaper!

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126  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: March 11, 2021, 10:36:29 PM
We will definitely look into it! Thanks for suggestion. Smiley






We are happy to announce support for bitcoin deposits & withdrawals using Liquid Network at Betplay.io. Given the increasing fees and mempool in the main chain we want to offer our users faster & cheaper payment options and seeing how well Bitcoin Lightning is working we think this can be a great complement to that for users who prefer using Liquid instead.

Payments take about 1 minute and fees are quite low. For example, a transfer of 20 uBTC incurred a total fee of 0.2 uBTC which we think is quite good considering the onchain fees right now.  Grin

Lightning payments are still available of course!

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127  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: February 25, 2021, 12:39:31 PM
Welcome to this forum
It's fine if a platform claims to be "first" or "greatest". When players have made a deposit, the currency that showed will still Bitcoin or will it be converted to Fiat?

Thank you! For the moment it only shows in micro-bitcoin (uBTC).

Please note that we are temporarily turning off USDT on Betplay.io due to Ethereum network congestion and high fees. We will reevaluate this later and we are also looking into support for other USDT networks outside of Ethereum. Being able to provide fast and low cost payments are very important to us and right now we do not feel that USDT on ETH network meets our requirements.



Had a visit to the site. Quite good in all aspects, I didn't made a signup. From the overview it looks more of a trusted platform, and it has added games from different development platforms. This will help people preferring different scripts to give a try. However the gambling market is highly competent, and trust is much required to attract gamblers use the platform. Look for all the possible sources and add more trust. Lightening Network is good and adds attraction as very few platforms have started making use of it.

Thank you for your comments.

We are currently integrating more premium providers, such as Netent, Pragmatic, Play'nGo etc, so our players have more variations of games. Any suggestion you might have, for us to gain more trust, are highly welcomed!



I was happy to read your post that you wont be collecting personal data for deposits and withdrawals, but your TOS claims otherwise. If KYC wont be asked during deposits and withdrawals, can you give us examples of when and why you might use it? I am interested because you don't have a gambling license. Did I understand correctly that I have the right to refuse submitting my personal data to you? If so, what happens with my funds and my winnings?

My second question is about "user contributions". What exactly is that? You state that it might be shared on the site publicly or with third parties.   

Sorry for our late reply on this, so regarding KYC, the reason for why we still have that is because it is a requirement for us to have in our TOS if we want to go for the Curacao license. And as mentioned before we have had in plan to go for that license and that is why we chose to still keep it in our TOS. However, we have spoken internally and will remove that clause from our TOS until we have the license, because as you mentioned it is not necessary while we don't have a license. The "user contributions" is in our TOS because of upcoming promotions where we will show the players chosen username when they have won a big bet for example. Smiley



Hey all,

We are running two promotions now on Friday and Saturday. If you would like to participate we would love your feedback, mostly on the Myster Cash Drop! Smiley I am sure most of you have received the email about the promotion but I will post it here as well.

On Friday the 12th of March we will be running the 25% Cashback Race and on Saturday the 13th of March we will also be running our new promotion called Mystery Cash Drop!

To participate for the Mega Cash Drop promotion simply make a minimum deposit of 1000 uBTC between 12th of March at 23.59 CET and the 13th of March at 23.59 CET to have a chance to get a secret Cash Drop on your account.

The rules are if you get the Cash Drop, then the Cash is yours with no wagering requirements. You will have one hour to either withdraw the Cash or play for it! If you have not withdrawn or played with the Cash before the one hour mark the Cash will go to another lucky player!

Have a great day!





What you are organizing looks very interesting, in view of the fact that you want to establish better communication with your customers, do you have plans to spread the word? That is, a social media campaign, signature campaign?

This helps a lot to attract potential customers, and here in the forum the community of players is very large.

Hi, yes we have been looking into different methods of spreading our word. This forum is of course one of them, we have heard of signature campaigns but we were not quite sure how/if it works. We will definitely look deeper into that, thanks for the advise! And i hope you will try out our promotion, let me know what you think of it Smiley

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128  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: February 24, 2021, 07:43:25 PM
I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.

I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair Tongue

The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases

Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.

Correct, Aviator is a provided by Spribe so we do not have direct control of it. They do offer a provably fair implementation that takes players' seeds into account. Whether you find their implementation satisfactory or not is something you need to check and decide for yourself of course.



*welcome new challenger gambling site...
accept the Bitcoin Lightning Network! seems very interesting. I am still very unfamiliar with the bitcoin lightning network, but what I heard is that the fee is very much cheaper than the usual Bitcoin network. will try later.

Thank you! Bitcoin Lightning Network will revolutionise the whole online casino industry. Transaction goes within seconds and fees cost only a fraction, then what it would cost from a normal BTC casino. We are very much looking forward to hear your feedback after trying us out! Smiley 



I was taking a look at your "aviator" game, it looks pretty, but kind of shocks me that you'd clone bustabit, which has a robust and established provably fair system and then change it to something that is not only obviously not provably fair (the casino can trivially cheat) but something that would also be a PITA to verify.

I'd suggest you either fix it, or not falsely advertise it as provably fair Tongue

The lightning aspect of your site is pretty cool, hopefully that becomes standard as lightning adoption increases

Aviator is a provider's game. Betplay can't change it.

Im presuming that you do talk about this? https://spribe.co/games/aviator

They have other games as well like Mines,Plinko,Hotline and Scratch.



Welcome to the forum Betplay!
Websites name and design are really that attractive plus using LN? This isnt something that you can see everyday.
Just be active on answering people queries and listening up with peoples suggestion and recommendation. Also, dont forget on that marketing side ofthings.

Thank you! We worked hard on the design and saw that LN is missing in casino context. Yes, we are more than happy to listen to your suggestions and recommendation, that's why we are here Smiley I'm happy you like the brand!

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129  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: February 24, 2021, 01:41:06 AM
Aviator: landing in Gambling, finally ... after a previous stop on another forum board  Smiley ...

-/ The Bonus & Offers is only USDT deposit...?

The other Betplay’s Welcome Bonus  30x, 30 days, 200% bonus, it is very well explained.

So, bet play./-

...welcome!!





We offer a 100% reload bonus on your second deposit as well! And the currencies we support for our bonuses and gameplay at the moment are USDT and uBTC, but more are coming very soon! Smiley
130  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: February 23, 2021, 11:33:09 PM
Welcome to the forum,

It is a really fast platform, I am glad that it has the option for LN, it would be excellent if it has a demo option to be able to test the games, it is also good that it has the balance around Micro-BTC, since many see this more accessible Perhaps it is a psychological impression, but many when seeing that they can bet little catches their attention.

Thank you for your feedback! We do offer our games in Demo mode, if you want to try them out without a deposit. Smiley

Thanks for your quick response,

If I am already on the platform, I am already testing the games in demo mode, it should be noted that the Eye of Gold game is great.

As it is a nascent casino, have you thought about running a campaign with social networks? and manage a signature campaign with a forum manager? If you look, many casinos have achieved a great margin of success under that advertising parameter.

We have indeed, we would love to run an exclusive campaign here on this forum as well later on. If you have any thoughts on that, please let me know. Smiley



This is nice since everyone is looking for casinos using lightning network, good that I found one. It will be great if you push marketing here to attract more users with your services. I hope more casinos will follow LN adoption its really an asap these days because of skyrocketing fees, congrats on putting LN in your platform thats huge potential.


Thank you for your kind words and I hope you will enjoy Betplay.io! Smiley We will try to be as active as possible with updates and news.



Excellent initiative op. I am a fan of LN myself even though its adoption rate is significantly low currently, but it's good to see you guys taking a risk here.

I like the name of this site along with the design which looks trendy and slick. Performance on mobile and desktop seems great too. The creative names for various games(Crash as Aviator etc) are pretty cool in my opinion.

I suggest adding more Q&A in the FAQ section though since many vital questions such as minimum deposit, withdrawal etc are missing.

I do agree adding more items in FAQ. Though you are using LN, still it is good to know simple info like min deposit/withdrawal.
And if you are using bitcoin-on-chain, what is min depo/withdrawal? Those info sometimes are important to players especially small time players.
On the other note, when I check your aviator game, there are about 117 bets already. That's a very good start as you are just new here.
Seems that you already promoted it before you introduced it here in the forum.
But it says, there are 2 online, how come there are more than 100 bets placed?


We have been live for about 3 weeks before joining this forum. We have had friends and colleagues trying out our casino to give us feedback as well.



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131  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: February 23, 2021, 10:40:52 PM
Welcome to the forum,

It is a really fast platform, I am glad that it has the option for LN, it would be excellent if it has a demo option to be able to test the games, it is also good that it has the balance around Micro-BTC, since many see this more accessible Perhaps it is a psychological impression, but many when seeing that they can bet little catches their attention.

Thank you for your feedback! We do offer our games in Demo mode, if you want to try them out without a deposit. Smiley



Excellent initiative op. I am a fan of LN myself even though its adoption rate is significantly low currently, but it's good to see you guys taking a risk here.

I like the name of this site along with the design which looks trendy and slick. Performance on mobile and desktop seems great too. The creative names for various games(Crash as Aviator etc) are pretty cool in my opinion.

I suggest adding more Q&A in the FAQ section though since many vital questions such as minimum deposit, withdrawal etc are missing.

Glad you like LN! Thank you for your kind words on our design and looks. I agree on the Q&A, we will have it updated, ASAP!

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132  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: February 23, 2021, 10:16:12 PM
Doing your first lightning transaction is almost like rediscovering Bitcoin again  Smiley

Being able to quickly deposit and withdraw without paying high fees, especially for smaller amounts, is something we believe is really important for players. Not only because it is a nice experience, but you don't have to leave funds on the site when its so cheap to deposit & withdraw your funds from/to your own wallet every session.

We are registered and operating out of Costa Rica yes, and I agree with your comment. We will focus on promotions and letting user try our site first  Cool
133  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: February 23, 2021, 08:26:31 PM
Welcome to worlds largest crypto community Bitcointalk and good to see that you guys are happy to join this forum. I just made a short visit on your casino website and it looks overall fine to me. Specially the design and i haven’t faced any loading issues during my visit although i am not using high speed internet this time. Good to hear that your casino user will get faster withdrawal experience including new features. Keeping everything aside i can only suggest that most gamblers like to play in a trusted platform who have honest service and special care for their users. Its the only way by which you can bring players on your platform.

I hope you guys will implement more features with plenty of games before your final site launch which will helo you to get crypto oriented gamblers on your platform.

Note: Please spend some time by reading forum rules.

Thank you for taking a look! We have additional premium providers & games on the way, as well as more promotions and features Smiley



Welcome to BitcoinTalk forum, best place to advertise your service with campaigns and promotions!
Nice to hear that more and more services are accepting Lightning Network and I hope people will start to use it more than now.

Do you have any license for your casino, and do customers need to pass kyc verification for playing and withdrawing coins?

We also hope that more people will start to use and see how awesome Lightning Network is, it's truly a game changer for Bitcoin!

Currently we operate out of Costa Rica so we do not have a Curacao license. This might change in the future, but for now we have opted to launch & operate without a Curacao License.

We do not require any KYC for deposits or withdraw. Signing up and playing is anonymous. Withdrawals are often paid out instantly, meaning your bitcoins will be in your wallet in a matter of seconds after you request a withdraw if you use a lightning wallet. If you have a lightning wallet ready to go you can try a small deposit and withdraw in & out to verify this.

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134  Economy / Gambling / Re: ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io first Bitcoin Lightning Network payments casino now live! ⚡️⚡️ on: February 23, 2021, 06:44:49 PM
Thanks! Try it out and give us any feedback you might have. I have moved this topic to the gambling section now  Smiley
135  Economy / Gambling / ⚡️⚡️Betplay.io - Lightning Network Casino - INSTANT & ZERO FEE Payments ⚡️⚡️ on: February 23, 2021, 06:12:40 PM
⚡️Betplay.io now live! ⚡️



Hi all,

We have just gone live with our brand new Crypto currency casino, Betplay.io!

We are the industry first to announce ⚡️Bitcoin Lightning Payment⚡️, this means that you can now both deposit and withdraw your money in seconds!

We are very excited to join Bitcointalk and get as much feedback as possible from you guys for us to grow and potentially be the biggest and greatest Crypto Currency Casino.

Our goal is to always offer our players the highest RTP option that the providers offer and also have the fastest withdrawal time in the industry. We will be releasing our Cashback feature as well as our Mystery cash drop feature very soon, so keep your eyes open! On top of this we are working everyday on coming up with new fun features for our players.

Please don't hold back on your feedback and don't forget that this is a soft launch so we have time to work on your feedback and ideas! We will have a team behind this account to help you out with any questions and thoughts that you may have.

We hope you will enjoy Betplay.io as much as we do. Smiley

Kind regards,

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