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1  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 09, 2024, 01:46:09 PM
@ConcordeSST
a set is still available?
(I am available for delivery and then reshipping at discounted price - ITALY EU)

Not at the moment, but still waiting on a response from one person. I'll let you know!
2  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 09, 2024, 12:55:01 PM
I would like to have my cards sent to MoparMiningLLC.
I want to pay for shipping.
So there will be free shipping for those who ship to MoparMiningLLC.

Very generous! Thank you so much!
3  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 08, 2024, 02:37:42 PM
if cheaper - can ship any and all US ones to either me or minerjones and we can reship (most the guys here have items with me or minerjones as it is)

Yup, others have suggested the same. I think I will do that. I'll be in touch soon. Thank you for the offer!
4  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 08, 2024, 02:22:09 PM
I'll take the last one.

Sounds good. I'll reserve it for you! DM me your country and I'll contact you when I have it in hand.
5  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 08, 2024, 02:08:16 PM
I’d be down for a set as well if you haven’t hit your limit yet!

Sure, I can reserve one for you and contact you for details once I have it in hand.

That leaves one remaining.
6  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 08, 2024, 01:07:03 PM
@concordeSST Please reserve/get a set for me too. Sent you a DM, thank you!

Will do! I ordered the maximum I can order, so I'll have five more sets soon if anyone else is interested.

I'm interested, will reach out soon.

I’d also like a set as mentioned earlier in thread ✌🏼

Sound good. Will reserve for you!
7  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 08, 2024, 08:47:33 AM
@concordeSST Please reserve/get a set for me too. Sent you a DM, thank you!

Will do! I ordered the maximum I can order, so I'll have five more sets soon if anyone else is interested.
8  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 08, 2024, 05:35:36 AM
concordeSST - are you able to get more of these?

Yes, I should be able to. I don't know if there are any purchase limits, but it appears to be easy to order more.

awesome - I would be interested in a set - what would be the cost to get one from you? will check back with you in the AM - on the way to bed atm.

thanks for responding!

I will need to see what it costs when I ship ChiBitCTy's as I've never tried to ship outbound from China yet, but it's likely around .002 BTC for an unloaded set if shipping is what I expect. I do have another set on the way, so I can reserve it for you.
9  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 08, 2024, 05:17:02 AM
concordeSST - are you able to get more of these?

Yes, I should be able to. I don't know if there are any purchase limits, but it appears to be easy to order more.

Edit: Actually, there is a limit. The maximum I can buy is ten sets, and it remembers previous purchases.
10  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: February 08, 2024, 05:01:42 AM
Finally got my hands on them! I have an unopened set with your name on it ChiBitCTy. They are unloaded, though it appears possible to buy them loaded (50 RMB for an unloaded single, 250 RMB for an unloaded gift box of the five pictured, 750 RMB for a loaded gift box with 100 RMB on each card). The cards link to the e-CNY app on iOS and I assume Android. You tap via NFC to connect it to the app and then you need to load it from a Chinese bank account. I was able to load mine, but without a Chinese National ID, I have daily spending limits and load limits for an "anonymous" card.






11  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: June 21, 2023, 08:58:22 AM
Bump

Haha, I still remember. The problem is, I can't get one myself yet. My bank won't allow me to use it without a Chinese National ID...for now. I know they were used at the Olympics, but I don't know how and if that was a special case or not.

I don't know what you're willing to share and what you're not, but are you saying that you'll be getting a Chinese National ID and once you do, then you'll be able to get one of these?  

Do you know if there's only one version of these cards being made?  Do they all have a name on them?

Would be awesome if you were able to talk someone in to selling theirs.. I will pay up Smiley   I appreciate you keeping this in mind still.

Oh I mean the ID number given to Chinese citizens, like a social security number in the U.S. I'm not a Chinese citizen and never will be, so there are a lot of things I can't do as a foreigner. I think they will eventually expand it to everyone but right now it's still kind of an experiment. I don't even know if there are physical cards. No one here uses physical cards for anything. Everything is done with apps on their phones and mini-apps through WeChat or Alipay. I've never seen a physical card used to pay anywhere besides a hotel. I want to ask about it, but it's complicated with the language barrier. Most Chinese nationals I've spoken to are completely perplexed when I mention the digital yuan or the e-cny. They have no idea what I'm talking about. In their minds money is already digital with WeChat and Alipay. I see the logo for it at some stores but it's very rare.
12  Economy / Collectibles / Re: WTB- Chinese Digital Yuan Card on: June 20, 2023, 12:37:30 PM
Bump

Haha, I still remember. The problem is, I can't get one myself yet. My bank won't allow me to use it without a Chinese National ID...for now. I know they were used at the Olympics, but I don't know how and if that was a special case or not.
13  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [Biggest Loser Raffle] 1oz .999 Silver Bitcoin Binary Round on: October 20, 2021, 03:09:26 PM
d please!
14  Economy / Collectibles / Re: (NFT'S) Anyone want to comment on them? on: October 16, 2021, 08:56:01 PM
IMO most NFTs are the definition of an overhyped fad that will not end well.. To me they are like zero utility alts, master-nodes, and current DeFi projects..they are mostly riding off the bitcoin/blockchain hype since everyone and their mom now wants in on crypto something but aren’t sustainable long-term. I mean most of it  doesn’t make any sense really. Why would you pay all that money for weird pics that do absolutely nothing, or art that will just sit on your wallet that you’ll never look at until you go to sell them. I bought a few NBA Top Shot NFTs and wow, what a joke, The question I always ask myself with crypto stuff is what do the cypherpunks think..I believe they see NFT value in spaces such as proof of ownership that’s easy to transfer and safely stored..home/car titles, marriage license storage, ownership for gamers that they can move from one platform to the next etc.

For me I can’t help but think that most of these projects were wasted time spent to make money off hype/fads when it could have been spent trying to build Satoshis proposed no-3rd party escrow project utilizing smart contracts, or a better lightning network alternative etc.

While many will turn out to be nothing more than useless JPEGs, many won't and a lot already offer a great deal of utility simply from owning the NFT. How will you know the good from the bad if you ignore the space entirely? Where are all the people that dismissed bitcoin as an overhyped fad ten years ago? Poor I'd imagine. Remember, at the peak of the 2017 bull market, one could have easily argued that Bitcoin was an overhyped fad. Because, at that singular moment in time, it was. The world and the market weren't ready to accept Bitcoin at that time. But those who ignored the noise and held on are wealthy today.

Like any new business each year, thousands will fail, but some will succeed. And the ones that do.....
15  Economy / Collectibles / Re: (NFT'S) Anyone want to comment on them? on: October 16, 2021, 04:52:05 PM
There's so much positive commentary on NFTs here, so I'll offer a contrary opinion...

NFTs are currently extremely overhyped and even more extremely overvalued.

First off, NFT = Non-Fungible Token. One of the largest value props of Bitcoin is that it's fungible. One sat is worth just as much as the next sat, and the network doesn't discriminate. With NFTs, you're creating tokens which each have a distinctive, subjective value, rather than a more widely agreed upon objective value, determined from multiple global exchanges.

Nothing wrong with subjective value. To some degree, most value is subjective, but I feel like people are investing in these non-fungible tokens as if they were fungible.

The value of holding a token which is tied to some other object, whether it be physical or digital, makes very little sense to me. Okay, so you're the owner of this particular digital image because you hold the private keys to a digital token linked in some way to the image. What does that do to you? What extra satisfaction is there for the key holder?

Compare this to an original painting that one has physical possession of. The painting itself has value over a digital image of the painting for several reasons - it's a physical object, and more about the painting can be appreciated because of the nuances that can't be replicated with a digital scan - the feel and visual texture of the medium, how it looks at different light angles, etc. This I can understand. But the digital image is something so cheap with modern technology that it is indefinitely replicable for a cost that is very near zero.

Disclaimer - I bought a bunch of rare pepes back in 2017 because it was novel and fun, and a good network stress test. Though why people are willing to trade large amounts of real BTC for these digital tokens is beyond me. In pre Bitcoin world, it would be like trading a bar of gold for Pokemon cards - sure, you might get lucky, and get some valuable card you can pass off to someone else, but fundamentally it's trading real wealth for more subjective, imaginary value. Part of me feels bad when I sell a Pepe card for BTC. And I would never be buying Pepes at these prices.

NFTs may have a place in the collector's world. But this initial hype doesn't correlate to the "value" offered by corresponding digital tokens. From my perspective, this is a giant money grab from both artists and speculators looking for another way to cash in from noobs caught up in the current crypto hype cycle.

That being said, I'm all about the free market, and other people's choices are ultimately none of my business. The above is me thinking aloud and voicing my opinion. Happy to hear from people as to why NFTs give them value, or other arguments as to what justifies the current hype.

I think you're allowing the genuine examples of hype and overvalued NFTs to cloud your view of the use cases that go far beyond digital art. There are indeed many overhyped projects and those are the ones that make headlines because people love to hear how someone paid a million dollars for a jpeg. These are the NFTs that offer no utility beyond a digital flex of wealth as one's profile pic. My unsolicited advice would be to make sure that the noise doesn't prevent you from missing the true value here. In my personal opinion, the value of NFTs is not so much in digital art (with art being so subjective, it's nearly impossible to say what the value should be), but rather in the realm of online gaming and access to unique events or clubs. To see this, one needs to look no further than what is already happening in gaming with people purchasing downloadable content (DLC) like skins, mods, digital items, etc for use in-game. This is happening right now to the tune of millions of dollars being spent in fiat currency. Now imagine what happens if you make that content as an NFT instead and remove all barriers to the free and open cross-border exchange of these items on the blockchain.  Also, consider that there are a multitude of projects today that already use the NFTs as keys or tickets basically to access special content or events that would otherwise be inaccessible.

Additional use-cases I see are news organizations using them to digitally sign a video as authentic in an era of deep fakes being rampantly spread. A photographer could use an NFT as a digital receipt to allow the holder to possess commercial reuse rights to that image. There are many many more likely use-cases that I am not even considering. NFT art is simply the tip of the iceberg. Personally, I think that yes there will be a bubble pop for NFTs as art similar to what happened with the dot com bubble pop in the late 90s. But what happened after that pop? Did the Internet go away? Nope, instead, when people looked away the development continued behind the scenes until the world was ready for the ideas that people had a bit too early in the 90s. I see the same thing happening for NFTs.

The fungible vs non-fungible point you make is valid. In the NFT space, you need to realize that the market is highly illiquid compared to the trade of fungible tokens as a result of their uniqueness. That doesn't mean they aren't an incredible opportunity for massive gains, just invest accordingly per your risk tolerance and understand that most NFT projects are like investing in a new startup company so do your due diligence as with any investment.
16  Economy / Collectibles / Re: (NFT'S) Anyone want to comment on them? on: October 08, 2021, 08:42:35 PM
I'll repeat my comment from another thread regarding Cardano NFTs (CNFTs):

The space is still nascent compared to ETH NFTs, but with dramatically lower fees than ETH (typically .17 ADA).
You can find the main secondary marketplace here (admittedly a work in progress): https://cnft.io/.
Others include https://tokhun.io/ and the promising (but currently unreleased) https://exnft.io/

Ideally, you want to get in at the initial drop level, not the secondary market if possible. You can find info on drops here: https://www.wencnft.com/

You can see analytics on projects to discover good ones here https://opencnft.io/ and here https://cnftanalytics.io/
You can also find rarity information on many projects here https://cnft.tools/ and here https://www.tokenref.com/

You will want a good ADA wallet as well. I connect my Ledger to https://ccwallet.io/ but another popular one is https://yoroi-wallet.com/. You can also run the full node official Daedalus wallet if you like https://daedaluswallet.io/.

My experience is mostly with the Cardano NFTs, though I have a small handful of ETH NFTs. I personally lean more towards NFTs that come with additional utility such as in-game advantages for those that will be used in future games, or those that unlock access to additional opportunities. Much to my chagrin though, the NFT projects that tend to moon are the ones that can be used as profile pics since people like to use them as digital flexes of wealth. Very popular Cardano projects that fall into that category are:

1. SpaceBudz https://spacebudz.io/
2. Clay Mates https://www.claymates.org/
3. Yummi Universe: https://yummiuniverse.com/

My personal favorites are:

1. Cardano City: https://cardanocity.io/
2. Cardacity: https://carda.city/#home
3. Hash Guardians: https://hashguardians.io/
4. Cardano Keys: https://cardanokeys.com/

To view CNFTs once you have them, go to the following link and add your receiving address to the end of the URL: https://pool.pm/
17  Economy / Collectibles / Re: Kialara New Release- Silver Series, 2021 – ‘Exogenesis’ (SOLD OUT) on: October 07, 2021, 06:06:33 PM
Received mine today. Thank you Max! This is beautiful...and heavy wow! Love the quality and the holo.


18  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [SOLD]PR1MAL CYPHER & CI NFT Coins on: October 06, 2021, 10:45:44 PM
Got mine today! Both the coin and the NFT look badass. Thank you!



19  Economy / Collectibles / Re: FREE RAFFLE- MyBitcoinMint Silver round on: October 05, 2021, 02:52:39 PM
77 please! Thank you!
20  Economy / Collectibles / Re: [INFO] Digital Collectibles on: September 30, 2021, 03:01:07 PM
Man, I wish I had paid more attention to this post when it was made.  I figured NFTs were a passing fad, along with DeFi, but so far I've been proven wrong.  I've even put together a couple NFT collections myself as a learning experience and really enjoyed it.  I look forward to continuing to explore what's possible and finding some other NFT collectors in this community who may be able to teach me a thing or two.  If you're into NFTs and are a positive member of the community, feel free to reach out.

I can share what I know about the Cardano NFT (CNFT) scene that I'm heavily involved in:

The space is still nascent compared to ETH NFTs, but with dramatically lower fees than ETH (typically .17 ADA).
You can find the main secondary marketplace here (admittedly a work in progress): https://cnft.io/.
Others include https://tokhun.io/ and the promising (but currently unreleased) https://exnft.io/

Ideally, you want to get in at the initial drop level, not the secondary market if possible. You can find info on drops here: https://www.wencnft.com/

You can see analytics on projects to discover good ones here https://opencnft.io/ and here https://cnftanalytics.io/
You can also find rarity information on many projects here https://cnft.tools/ and here https://www.tokenref.com/

You will want a good ADA wallet as well. I connect my Ledger to https://ccwallet.io/ but another popular one is https://yoroi-wallet.com/. You can also run the full node official Daedalus wallet if you like https://daedaluswallet.io/.

My experience is mostly with the Cardano NFTs, though I have a small handful of ETH NFTs. I personally lean more towards NFTs that come with additional utility such as in-game advantages for those that will be used in future games, or those that unlock access to additional opportunities. Much to my chagrin though, the NFT projects that tend to moon are the ones that can be used as profile pics since people like to use them as digital flexes of wealth. Very popular Cardano projects that fall into that category are:

1. SpaceBudz https://spacebudz.io/
2. Clay Mates https://www.claymates.org/
3. Yummi Universe: https://yummiuniverse.com/

My personal favorites are:

1. Cardano City: https://cardanocity.io/
2. Cardacity: https://carda.city/#home
3. Hash Guardians: https://hashguardians.io/
4. Cardano Keys: https://cardanokeys.com/

To view CNFTs once you have them, go to the following link and add your receiving address to the end of the URL: https://pool.pm/
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