It doesnt/wouldnt matter regardless of who Satoshi was/is because Bitcoin
has become far greater than any one person.
The only way for Satoshi's identity to be proven is for Satoshi to sign a
message from one of the identified wallets, or to simply move some coins.
Otherwise any future claims or suggestions as to Satoshis identity is nonsense.
At a point like this, we shouldn't be bothered about the identity of satoshi as long as every transaction can still be verified on the blockchain. The case with satoshis identity would have been a great concern if it was earlier before now but for now, I personally think, satoshi revealing his identity wouldn't make any sense on the market but rather he might even be trolled for seeking fame because there's nothing he might be seeking outside fame if he has to make his identity known now. |
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i think silver gained attention because of green energy initiatives around the world
silver is used in solar panels and therefore people though that more solar panels = more silver used
but copper usage is 100x more than silver in any electrical component for ex. wires, electrical grids, ev vehicles, solar, transformers etc.
so, yeah, ur right, copper is the next best thing, definitely worth having in one's portfolio
I stand with you on your opinion and the last time I checked, copper was doing well in real world usage especially because of it's electronic properties. For my country, the number of solar panels have really increased because people are rapidly switching to solar usage over the local traditional power generation and which truly implies the more usage of silver and hence increasing demand over supply but aside silvers recent use for solar panels, I think that copper was far more in usage than silver. |
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So if you buy Bitcoin today and plan say “You go check am again for 10–15 years”, you don already beat plenty people wey dey chase quick money online. Bitcoin na like planting palm tree, you no go chop fruit next month, but when e mature, your children and their children fit still dey benefit.
So on that note, as we end the year 2025 in few days time and plan to enter New Year 2026, please ensure to make Bitcoin investment as part of your New Year resolution. Because time go surely reward you when you put your investment trust in Bitcoin. Thank you, and Happy New Year in advance.
Happy new year in advance but I don’t have to align with the idea that we have to suffer all these commitments solely for our children to enjoy when we are no more on earth. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not trying to say that we shouldn’t save or try to gather for our children but we should rather change the narrative while saving because you might be saving for children who might just end up squandering everything you labored for, so from my perspective, the major reason for savings and investing, is to make our retirement period an easy one and not prioritizing saving for children to have it when we’re gone. I’ve seen several threads about what happens to our coins when we’re no more and I haven’t found a perfect solution and according to bitcoin and how it was built for privacy meaning no one but us is supposed to be in charge of our coin, what then happens to those coins when your children or family can’t access then when you’re gone? In as much as bitcoin isn’t a get rich quick scheme, we should also have our retirement at the back of our minds when investing to help fuel our investment portfolio and journey. |
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A lot of you guys try to interpret spirituality with carnal mindset and sight which is wrong and I understand your point and where you’re coming from but I think we underestimate the power of miracle(that is an unmerited favour with struggle and efforts) happens.
There are cases where people’s life change over night from a maybe a single act of kindness was to a stranger and boom massive appreciation comes in and if wisely used, stories could possibly change.
As a typical Africa man, I understand what op is talking about but I’m just trying to say that, God works in mysterious ways and the ways of God are not the ways of men and I also remember a passage in the holy Bible that says that, “what seems right onto men are nothing but foolishness in the sight of the lord”
Miracle happen and life can change even someone without a dime today and be rich before tomorrow, it’s possible.
 I'm seriously laughing over your statement, you amaze me seriously. Incase you don't know, Bitcoin is scarce and the only ways you can earn it is through mining which is very costly recently and investing with your discretionary so dear instead of waiting for unmerited favour, please go get a job if you don't have any, and start investing now that it's still early . Many people are so delusional and I totally understand because they lack serious understanding about Bitcoin and from your statement it seems you do too, Bitcoin would never get into your wallet by miracle except someone gifts it to you, currently you must merit to earn it which is by investing with your discretionary fund. There’s no harm and crime in laughing so please do feel free to laugh as much as you desire. I also have to correct you that maybe you didn’t get the point of my post before jumping into conclusion but let me also try to make it clearer. Maybe getting a job and accumulating bitcoin might not be a big deal for you but have you ever thought of people who sincerely can’t afford to invest in bitcoin? Or do you think everyone is equal or should be equal to the task of owning bitcoin? There are countries where people barely get to eat despite working extremely hard and in recent time, you’ll also agree with me that, smart work pays more than hard work and a lot of people might be battling with life because of lack of information(right information) but trust me, life can change even without much effort and I’ve seen where people’s life gets transformed in a place of worship even without them doing any actual job. There was a church program I was watching some time ago and in the program, the pastor suddenly met one of his old classmates present in his service and he identified with him and in same service, he gifted his friend a house and a car and job and also started up a business for the wife, is that not a miracle for someone who went to church with nothing only to get his love built? I’m not focus specifically on bitcoin in this case but what I’m trying to say is that, miracles happens and god still answers prayers in mysterious ways and can open ways to acquire bitcoin. |
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A lot of you guys try to interpret spirituality with carnal mindset and sight which is wrong and I understand your point and where you’re coming from but I think we underestimate the power of miracle(that is an unmerited favour with struggle and efforts) happens.
There are cases where people’s life change over night from a maybe a single act of kindness was to a stranger and boom massive appreciation comes in and if wisely used, stories could possibly change.
As a typical Africa man, I understand what op is talking about but I’m just trying to say that, God works in mysterious ways and the ways of God are not the ways of men and I also remember a passage in the holy Bible that says that, “what seems right onto men are nothing but foolishness in the sight of the lord”
Miracle happen and life can change even someone without a dime today and be rich before tomorrow, it’s possible.
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So the advice would be: don't use bookmarklets on computers where you're dealing with crypto.
Also in addition, especially for people who can’t afford a hardware wallet is simply to use a 2FA atleast with this on your wallet, it will also help to create another layer of security. Don't use hot wallet to store big amount of money because a hardware wallet is far cheaper and will save you from silly mistakes. Don't be dumb and prioritize the security of your funds. Imagine someone with 200k worth of crypto couldn't afford a hardware wallet of at leas $150.
Don't use the same device for your normal internet surfing and for your crypto to avoid any form of vulnerability for scammers to have access to your wallet.
I also don’t know why someone with such amount of holdings be doing so on his regular laptop and not get a hardware wallet for himself. The did is done and this should also serve as a lesson to those who care to learn and also a reminder that, the safety of our coins is our sole responsibility and shouldn’t be taken for granted. |
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Bitcoin has made a very tremendous gains for many investors, and because of the growth potential of bitcoin, many investors are attracted to it, and they are very excited investing in bitcoin.
Bitcoin is a decentralized cryptocurrency, and of which no central authority, government or institution is in control of bitcoin, and more also, people look at bitcoin transaction as a way of gaining freedom from the third party system, which involves going to the bank for transaction.
Everyone loves business with good gain, and when you invest in bitcoin, especially with long term goal, you will definitely make good gains out of it. And more also some people are also attracted to bitcoin because of the innovation behind bitcoin.
I will be interested in your contributions concerning this very topic as we learn from one another.
You already stated why people want bitcoin so o think you don’t need to bother about the opinions of others. Bitcoin has been accepted more because of its volatile nature and its ability to store value and as such, everyone wants to be a part of the thread and be financially free in the future since it has been tagged the future of money. |
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I have been involved in Bitcoin for a long time. And recently I came to know about this forum. I think if I join this forum, I will be able to gain more ideas or knowledge about Bitcoin. But I don't know anything about what I can do or what my limitations are as a complete newbie. In this case, I will be grateful if you give me an idea about the forum.
You will grow faster in this journey if you first learn about Bitcoin and how it works which you can do in Bitcoin technical board and this section. After this, you learn about wallets softwares to give you idea of how to safely store your bitcoin. Finally go through the Meta board to learn about the forum and how to use it, but you must remain active in Beginners & Help board for information relating to beginners as some of the questions you might have in mind may have been answered there. You will also find Youtube very helpful in addition to what I have already recommended for you above. Incase you skipped the first line, he said he has been involved in bitcoin for a long time but I think op is I teteyed on how to navigate the forum and catch up with its activities. I will first tell you to try going through the pin post on these board https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=24.0 and get acquainted with the rules and regulations of the forum and I will also advise that you spend more time on reading than jumping on every post. You have all the time, so no need for you to rush things. |
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The lesson I got from looking at all these influential people is you can be exceptional in your field but if you do not know how to manage your money you might just die penniless. I personally do not want to pass away after suffering from poverty. I want my last days to be spent in bliss.
apart from the angle of dyeing while leaving a lot of debt for others to pay, the likes of Michael Jackson that actually lived a life that speaks of them even after they have died some years back can not be termed as people that died poor. I’m really shocked that Micheal Jackson left so much debts behind financially because we had so much of his impact and influence because meh that guy was almost like a demigod back then. But I think his impacts might have swept all this stories under the rug but Micheal was really influential to even think of him having debts and this is a typical examples of not judging people by mere looks as you never can tell how much people are fighting and still wearing a smile and to is alive, please be nice to people. |
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I've been wanting to discuss about this topic for a while now and I am grateful that someone brings it up today, but you still don't explain how a country benefits from crisis.
I will wait for other people's opinion about this topic first, all I know presently is that war somehow brings benefits to those who made it happen and even in the past histories this have been the same, I just can't figure out how yet.
In my country there is unrest from attackers, people are been killed almost everyday and many are blaming it in on the jihadists/Muslims because the most affected victims are Christians, I later heard that this affected areas are filled with precious stones in the ground.
They plan to bring the unrest to people living in these few states so that they can leave or die in the process and the precious stones will be harvested later.
I have also heard stories of how people actually benefit from crisis and at some point, I pause to wonder how and why but yeah, the world is an unpredictable place and truly, people earn from crisis and insurgencies else tell me how they get these sophisticated weapons and explosives they use for their operations and also the vehicles, I have in recent time tried to check the cost of the type of vehicles these terrorist use, it occurred to me that, truly there are people(very influential) sponsoring these groups to cause these crisis. But generally I don’t believe that crisis benefits a country because I have always known that, crisis brings a nation backward in all aspects but I strongly believe that, there are people that are smiling to the banks why others are crying and bleeding pains. |
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I am very happy that some countries are not following China, if more countries have bitcoin in reserves, I believe many other countries will follow and leave China behind. Although China is not having plans to sell their bitcoin holding yet which look like a reserve on it own for now.
China is not wanting any actual dominance from America and not that China is not wise or enlightened on the future of bitcoin and cryptocurrencies but just for the fact that most stable coins are pegged to the United States dollar, they actually don’t want such for their nation and maybe trying to talk people down on cryptocurrency even when they have some holdings. I never even noticed the news if not for now and truly the market never paid a single attention to it and maybe I think a lot more people are beginning to understand how these things work. |
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The truth is that, not everyone should be involved in the technical process of bitcoin and I think the success of the project is as a result of the collective effort of everyone and just so you know that, we have the miners, the traders, the holders and the rest of them and they all collectively make bitcoin functional.
The forum is a versatile place and I understand when you say that, there’re hypocrites because not everyone typically lives the life they portray on here but that doesn’t mean everyone is doing same.
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I know we survived without government support and can survive without it but What are your thoughts on the direction we heading?
The direction we are heading is the direction of full adoption, it's hightime we realized that Bitcoin can't really gain full adoption without sacrificing something, in place, there is this very common proverbs which if translated to English simply means that there is always something that must be cut off from a minute before it becomes consumable, some might say eatable. I have said this over time that Bitcoin can't gain full adoption without the government stepping in to accept and adopt it first, and this has began to happen in our very eyes. To me though, I do not believe that by the government coming in to bitcoin totally kills privacy, no, no, I still believe it's a choice we can make for ourselves respectively speaking, the government may want control but we have to be rest assured that the Bitcoin network can't be manipulated by any Dev, except the government decide to create their own crypto asset. Everything has their advantages and also their disadvantages and that’s the case with government stepping into the industry and you should also know that, government wouldn’t see a profitable opportunity and just let it slide nahhh, so for bitcoin to be totally accepted, the government would want to gain from the processes and yes I agree with you that, it doesn’t totally steal away our privacy but if you truly want to use bitcoin conveniently(crypto in general) then we also need these exchanges and in most cases, for an exchange to be accepted and easily trusted, they have to be registered and for them to be registered, they need to agree to government terms which might not be favorable to the users and in one way or the other, privacy is bridged. I agree with you that for us to gain this full adoption that we so desire, something must be traded and in this case, we’re already trading trading this privacy we so much yearned for Must we really want these government acceptance? |
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In my experience, never saw such exact machines, phone-like ones, ony ATMs, the big ones. There are such machines, not bitcoin machines but the regular point of sale machines(pos) and it’s very common in my country. POS terminals are basically built as Android devices to perform specific actions that carry out transactions. I am not surprised to see a new POS terminal that has bitcoin transaction support. Don't forget it uses an internet connection and has a touch screen like a smartphone. It is an upgrade on the device, which is very useful for business owners willing to accept Bitcoin as a means of payment.
I don’t think there were any updates made to those machines except you weren’t aware of the option, for a regular touchscreen pos machines which uses the android OS, there’s always an option to download and install apps on the machine just like the regular android phones because the machines functions almost like the regular android with options to print receipt. |
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Congrats on your new phone purchase and I was tempted to as which country you’re from but I didn’t because if you wanted to say, maybe you would have done that while making your post.
In my country, we have similar machines for the regular point of sales (pos) machines and yes most of these machines are already built with android operating systems which means they can also function like the regular android mobile phones but the major difference is that, the pos can print out paper receipts after each transactions and with that pos machine, the phone vendor might have installed a bitcoin wallet on the device and I’m saying this because there haven’t been a post about mobile bitcoin ATMs.
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I think the main difference is simple:
Digital payments rely on banks and regulations, while digital currencies rely on cryptography and users.
Both systems will continue to exist, but crypto offers more independence for people who want full control of their money.
I think there is a similar discussion in the these thread https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5566892.msg66108971#msg66108971and maybe you can check it out but really technologies are increasing seriously and things are changing for good in the digital world because everyone is trying to meet up the high expectations of consumers. Of recent I received a western union transfer directly from Singapore into my bank account and it took roughly less than 30 minutes for money to arrive in my account and I was really amazed because the other time I received a western money and ria money transfer, I had to go to the bank to pick them up and trust me, it wasn’t an easy process as any error in sending details, the transaction wouldn’t be completed. I have these illustration as an example to the fact that, cross boarder transfers with local fiat are improving but the truth is that, people who already know crypto will always prefer crypto. |
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Smart criminals use Fiat and dumb criminals use crypto, on the long run they learn the hard way, using crypto to launder money isn't always safe for criminals in the end because they can always be tracked, there are footprints everywhere on the blockchain. The only way to get away with crime online but not completely still is by using mixers and that's why the government don't want it to function.
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When will people learn that hardware wallet is still the best way to keep your crypto safe? Seeds are far away from smartphones and your computers which makes hardware wallet the best way to keep your coins safe.
A time is coming where many will learn the hardway, because as crypto keeps having more value hackers won't put a full stop to finding new ways to steal people's crypto coins.
Standalone devices have lesser chances of getting compromised.
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It is not too late, go back and take your money out of that shithole, another thing you did wrong is the timing, now is not a good time to invest in altcoins.
Why not buy bitcoin and hold? There is a chance that bitcoin will recover back to 103k before turning more ugly, you can take profit at 100+ and wait for price decline to buy back again.
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