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1  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Interesting Miners Total Stopped selling Bitcoin on: April 08, 2021, 05:49:54 PM
i think, thats because btc is at a high price, 55k, and miners need less btc for their operations keeping running. its a bullish sign, for me.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: March 31, 2021, 07:00:47 PM
Thailand, 24March2021
NOONProperty ManagementCoLtd
79/95 Moo 10, ChalongSub-district
MueangPhuketDistrict
83130Phuket, Thailand
Dear owners, 
With this message I would like to give you a market and a project update fromThailand. Market
▪ Thailand has been very virtuous in controlling the number of COVID-19 cases duringthe whole 2020, with less than 4,000 total cases as of mid-December 2020. However, on19December 2020, Thailand reported more than 500 COVID-19 cases amongmigrant workers at the center of its seafood industry in Samut Sakhon province, by far thebiggest one-dayrise in a country that had previously brought the epidemic largely under control. Theprovince was immediately ordered closed and put under a 10amto 5pmcurfew.
▪ The Disease Control Department has so far reported almost 20,000 cases of COVID-19in44 provinces with links to the outbreak in Samut Sakhon. In Phuket, as in manyother provinces, schools were closed, and a 14-day mandatory quarantine was introducedfor incoming  domestic travelers. The number of new cases per day has nowreturnedtocontrollablelevels, with an average of 70 cases/day in the last 7 days.
▪ Thai Government continues to study various schemes to allowinternational visitorsintothe country to provide some relief for its battered tourismindustry, balancingarrivalswiththe infection risk that comes from open borders. The latest plan being consideredistoscrapthe two-week quarantine period for vaccinated tourists. While this could provideamajor boostto the economy, if approved, it is very likely that the government will ultimatelytakeacautious approach and only reopen borders more fully once there is greater progress inthedomestic COVID-19 vaccination programme.
▪ The Government kicked off its COVID-19 vaccination campaign on 28 February, with ministers,health officials and medical professionals among the first in the queue toreceive vaccinations.A mass campaign to administer 10 million doses a month is set to begininJune, with61million shots of AstraZeneca vaccines produced by local firmSiamBioscience.

▪ Thailand received 7,694 foreign arrivals in January (-99.8%y/y), only slightlymorethanthe6,560 in December. The government now expects only 3.2mn tourists in2021(6.7mnin2020), compared with ~40mn in 2019, and hopes to ease international travel curbsinH221.
▪ Despite the COVID-19 outbreak, the THB remained stable vs. USD, close toits highest level since 2013. The Bank of Thailand (BoT) left its policy rate unchanged at 0.50%but remains concerned about the THB strength. The consensus is that the BoT will leaveits policyrate unchanged over the next 12 months, preserving its limited policy space.
▪ BoT also upgraded its 2020 GDP forecast slightly, though its 2021 forecast was downgraded as hopes for a tourism revival have dimmed. The BoT nowexpects GDPtocontract bya smaller 6.6% in 2020 compared with its previous forecast of a 7.8%decline.
▪ According to Nexus Property Marketing, after having decreased by 11%in2021, theaverage prices for new and resale condo supply in Bangkok are projected to fall by 5%thisyear  before picking up in 2022.
Project
▪ Chalong, like the rest of Phuket, is almost a ghost town. Most of our tenants havelost their employment and have returned to their home countries (the foreigners) or movedbackto their provinces (the Thai).
▪ During the second semester of 2020, our occupancy rate decreased to thecurrent level of10%, and we had to offer heavily discounted rates to the fewtenants that decidedtostay.
▪ We have taken the strategic decision not to let go of anybody fromthe staff of NOON  Property Management, but we have reduced their working hours to 50%. Our management company is using our equity capital to subsidize the operating losses, but weareconfident that having the team in place will position us very favorably when the market picksup  compared to most of our competitors that have ceased operations.
▪ We are using this period of downtime as an opportunity to carry out maintenanceand  improvement works in both buildings: for example, we have repainted therailingsof Tower1 rooftop, and installed a shelter for the motorbike parking in Tower 2.
▪ Due to the near-zero revenues that our rental business has being producing, on15July2020, we have suspended the coupon payment to your portfolio of unit in bothTowe1andTower2.
▪ Once the tourism market restarts, we will pay you the accrued coupons fromJuly2020toFebruary 2021 plus an interest of 5% per annum.
▪ The lack of visibility on the time and shape of the recovery, and the prolongeddepression that the Phuket rental market will likely experience in the months ahead, will not allowusto accrue any additional coupon. We seek your cooperation to move froma fixedmonthly  payment agreement to a revenue sharing model fromMarch 2021 onwards. Therevenue sharing model will align our interests, permitting to safeguard the financial stabilityof our management company and share with you any potential upside that the rental market will offer once it is fully recovered.
Should you have any questions or comments, please do not hesitate to contact me. 
Thank you for your continued support. 
Luca Dotti, 
Director


good news.  Smiley
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: March 31, 2021, 06:58:48 PM
Anyone has any idea why their platform shows: UNFORTUNATELY THIS CONTENT IS NOT AVAILABLE IN YOUR LOCATION

http://block.realplatform.vc/
http://block.blockreal.com/

Is it just me.

in some countries they are not available.



is someone having a link for the unofficial telgram group? thanks

4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: December 22, 2018, 05:09:47 PM
REAL price, in fact, it's undervalued as hell, novembers' dividends were paid and I make my second withdrawal with no problem, how can you blame them? If you want to buy REAL, since it's a working product you can just go on Bancor and buy it, you don't need to wait till it's on Binance lol

we have to wait until KYC process will be available for USA and other world parts. there is still a huge potential in this platform.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: November 28, 2018, 04:08:49 AM
Can the team reply on the following?
why is marketing done until two years after the ico, when my token value has fallen so much....

Hi Investor Esteban,

We can not know what is going to be in the future, but we are sure that we are working hard to run the first global crypto real estate crowdfunding platform and increase the value of our token.

We will do marketing when we believe it makes sense to do so, and that is when we have the new version where everyone will be able to participate not only with Real tokens.

Miguel

When the same there are many other platforms launched in blockchain but we don't see any price improvement by them but how far we can believe in your project. Real estate platform is booming one but how can you do a different level of marketing?

there is no fast solution for this platform. developing features and putting attractive real estate to sell is the only way to go.
hmm... what we got here is quite difficult.

you invest in real estate, but in principal you are invested in crypto coins, because after they sold the property, you are going to receive your investment back in coins. so you get a stabil income out of the property and you are also invested in the crazyness of crypto market. i find it an interesting solution right now. Coins are very cheap.

from next year, 2019, its going to be different and coins are just the vehicle for your investments in real estate. although it is still going to be interesting, because you can sell your property during your holding time for cryptos. so still a very nice project going on here. it seems it is under cover and undervalued at present.

They have no visibility and price is down 80% with no volume for another half year. In the mean time, other projects grow and gain exposure. No protection of principal renders the yield pointless. It is not in the interest of token hodlers and just bargain hunters.
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ETHERPARTY (FUEL) FIRST PRODUCT ROCKET IS LIVE!☀️ on: August 04, 2018, 08:00:31 PM

I registered here because I invested in Etherparty. Since then, as soon as the team delayed the launch of the roadmap (March), I appeared here. With each month of delays more and more, only empty promises. The roadmap is not executed, and the FUEL course falls.
Do not talk about the bear market as a whole, because, as I said, many projects have not fallen from the price of ICO so much. Something is growing (where the team really works).
Etherparty also only say that they "working hard", but these are empty words.
There are basic signs of SCAM -
1) The team delays release
2) The team absolutely does not follow the promised roadmap
3) The team does not monitor the price of its shares
4) The team does shitposting, bad communication with investors.

I am not engaged in TROLLING, but only call on people to open their eyes. It is for this purpose that this thread exists. Besides me, there are only positive comments, like "A wonderful project! The course will soon grow! WOW! BRILLNESS." It is possible that these are fake comments, which are very easy to do.
After all, people can not rejoice that their money disappears with each passing month more and more.
And if the price falls from ICO -70%, it indicates the inefficiency of the company! They absolutely do not care about investors and obligations.

I want to stop people from making a mistake and not losing money.
You can not trust Vanbex after this. Since I write here (march,april), the price of the token falls ever lower and lower, and the team behaves absolutely passively.
They ineffectively manage the money of investors.
And yes, I'm still a FUEL holder, so I have the right to express my opinion here.


I don't think you understand how startups work, nor how software development works, especially in this space (blockchain & smart contracts) which changes continuously and rapidly.
And no these are not basic signs of scam, a scam is when the team disappears or when they don't deliver a product or they just raise funds and run with the money.
None of the above applies to Etherparty:

- The team is active, they are going to conferences all over the world, they have been doing so since before the token sale and they just came back from 2 conferences in China. They also have other planned conferences.
- The team is ever growing with new employees (including devs) joining the team, just check the team page.
- EP has launched their platform a couple of weeks back, it is live, they are waiting for the first customers (out of 6 confirmed customers) to launch their crowdfund on Rocket: https://rocket.etherparty.com.
- They are also very active on all their community channels, answering questions and sharing news and updates, keeping everyone up to date.

The reason why I say you are trolling is because you are just throwing baseless accusations, and I will tackle each of your points below:

1) The team delays release:
That's normal with a startup, it's normal with big companies imagine a startup, so nothing surprising there, all blockchain projects I know of have had delays none of them delivered on time.

2) The team absolutely does not follow the promised roadmap:
There was no promise, if you read the terms of sale or whitepaper, all details are subject to change as it is normal for a startup to make new plans depending on business and market conditions for the better of the company and its supporters. No company out there will ever make a promise, not sure where you get that from. The roadmap has been changed because the scope of the project has also changed, this was announced early this year in a blogpost explaining why, check out their blog (do some research) they are delivering end-to-end products first Rocket (crowdfunds), then Hero (charity), then Saturn (supply chain). They have released a new "tentative" roadmap during one of their AMAs, also available on the blog here.

3) The team does not monitor the price of its shares:
First of all there are no shares, FUEL is a utility token that gives you access to the platform, surely you must know what you purchased before you purchased it right? The team has always been clear they are not involved with secondary markets because of regulatory concerns, many projects do pump their tokens but at the end of the day most don't have any product, while EP has actually a live product. Also they announced that EP won't be selling any tokens from the ones they hold and they are put on hold until further notice. Customers will have to source their tokens from the current circulating supply on exchanges. What does that mean? That as more customers use Rocket, demand for FUEL will increase and where do these FUEL come from? From exchanges. That is a positive development in my opinion, they also announced that once customers use FUEL on Rocket the company will also lock them for a certain period of time making supply even scarcer over time.

4) The team does shitposting, bad communication with investors:
This is your opinion, don't even know what you mean by shitposting, as I mentioned above they are very active on all their channels and answer all questions as they come, they won't answer questions about token price for obvious reasons but their admins are very proactive and you can't deny that.

5) And if the price falls from ICO -70%, it indicates the inefficiency of the company! They absolutely do not care about investors and obligations:
We are in a bear market for tokens we have had a good time towards the end of 2017 beginning of 2018 but now it's over, if you don't realize that then you are not in the loop with what's happening. Ethereum was 1500 dollars back in January it is about 450 now, is Ethereum inefficient according to your logic? Bitcoin was 20,000 dollars back in January it is now 8000 is Bitcoin inefficient? BCH was 3500 dollars, it is about 800 now, is BCH inefficient? And I can go on and on and on... You don't get it that's your problem not EPs problem. However, value of a token comes from its utilization and the product, EP has a good product and more to come which will increase the value of the token over time. I have confidence in the team, they have experience and are employing new staff all the times, surely someone is going to be smiling in a few months, especially as more companies use Rocket for their crowdfunds. One thing I learned in the space is that patience is always rewarding, of course, if you chose a good team with a great idea. In my opinion EP is one of them. And on a final note, you bought a utility token, if you want responsibility toward investors go buy shares on the stock market, don't buy tokens. I personally believe the money they have raised is being managed pretty well and quite happy they have already delivered the first product. Now I don't know many other projects that have launched a product within less than a year from their crowdfund, that is something to be thrilled about.

The rest of your comments are personal opinions that show your poor understanding of the space and even Etherparty, the company you invested in, so they are not worth replying to.
Just because you say it's a scam doesn't actually means it is, you'd be better refraining from posting such comments as anyone else is well aware of who the team is, their experience and the efforts that are going into building EP.

Give us all a favour, just have a break, be patient and you'll see things will improve over time. Personally I have no rush, I've been around a while and I know a good team when I pick my tokens. Don't take my word for it do your own research, always. By posting crap like you do you are not helping anyone, not even yourself, try to be more positive, it will go a long way.



Funny arguments . Since when has the delay and change in the roadmap become the norm?This has always been a bad sign of any organization and start-up.
Shitposting is easy to see on Twitter. 95% are devoted to the blockchain and crypto-currencies in general, and not to the project of the Etherparty.If you call it "Active", then I have bad news for you.

If the organization believes that its company is undervalued, it may announce the repurchase of a part of the tokens. Etherparty did not do this.
Everything that you wrote me, write in this forum for half a year already. And as you see, patience leads to multiple losses.
I do not even need a profit, just return my money, which I originally invested.
You can not even talk about Hero and Saturn. If the Rocket is delayed for such a long time, then these can not even be dreamed of.

They collected 33 million dollars. For what ? To take pictures of their dog in the office and travel the world?

And yes, if you started comparing prices, then look at the ICO price.
On October 1, when the ICO Etherparty began, Bitcoin cost 4200 USD. Now it costs 8250$ ~
Etherium was $ 300 - now 470$, Bitcoin Cash was 400 ~ USD, now it's 840. But the price of Etherparty fell from 0.1 USD to 0.03$. IT IS A FACT!
Therefore, it is not worth bringing these stupid arguments


there were alot of signs to leave this project given from the beginning on.

just after the ICO they started to ban all the accounts from their media channels asking for the promises given during the ICO.

You had the chance to leave in December and all the last 6 months, since we all know its a shitcoin. Members are more active on deleting posts and banning then doing anything, since ever.  You wanted the proof, you have it since you see all the broken promises, visions and undone work. Now you can decide again - you still think they are going to perform, then stay.
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: August 04, 2018, 11:20:38 AM
https://twitter.com/real_token/status/1024624793465774080

First payouts from the first property rental income have been sent today! It includes half May, June and July! Enjoy your ETH

Where is the info regarding the second property being paid out in 1 year?

Post link with this info.. proof is alway nice with pudding.

Anyone know how much the first property paid out in ETH?

dude get your things together and read the contract. the luxury apps getting built first.

so the ownership for the 2nd property are starting from Feb 2021 (+ 1 year of delay of construction possible).

its still a good deal to buy such a property in bangkok.
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: August 02, 2018, 06:17:30 PM
https://twitter.com/real_token/status/1024624793465774080

First payouts from the first property rental income have been sent today! It includes half May, June and July! Enjoy your ETH

Where is the info regarding the second property being paid out in 1 year?

Post link with this info.. proof is alway nice with pudding.

Anyone know how much the first property paid out in ETH?

I am also interested in knowing how much the dividents were. Would be good if somebody can share Smiley

https://twitter.com/mad4ark/status/1024762337721507840

This guy says he got 0.06 eth for 2500 real investment. If anybody can give more information that'd be nice.



Actually it's me Grin Grin. I can share another information if you want, minimum withdraw is 0.1 ETH....but let's focus on the other news, REAL on Bancor is a great news because it can partially solve the liquidity problem (which you can't 100% solve since many REAL are and were exchanged for RPP and locked into properties)


here the link to the exchange:
https://www.bancor.network/communities/5b60783ceb8028bf8a19be9c

and the volume is pretty niiiice:

24H VOLUME
$40,782.44

i know someone who received 2.4 Ethereum for 102k REAL invested.
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: July 28, 2018, 02:59:01 PM
As I read from some messages on social media second propert is also done on the platform. It would be good blog posting about how long those first 2 took to get filled on the platform and other share statistics.
When will the third one come?

I don't think that they already spoke about a third property yet, maybe they'll do it on the next update. We also don't know when first dividends will get paid but my guess next week/ next couple weeks

the divs for the 2nd property are starting from Oct 2020 (+ possible 1 year of delay)

10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: Minexcoin - A new era of payments on: July 04, 2018, 02:40:03 PM
i am surpriced mnx is not going the way of a failed pyramide-scheme-coin. Everything looked like that and now they changed their strategy for a soft exit with this CC thing.

will be interesting how long they are going to implement open source code into the coin and calling it development, before sneaking out.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ETHERPARTY (FUEL) 🎉 FIRST PRODUCT ROCKET 🚀 COMING THIS SPRING ☀️ on: June 28, 2018, 07:27:25 AM
FUEL may be a good coin that is worth holding in the middle and long waiting for a project to develop, but all of this requires patience and time.
Are you joking? Smiley almost a year since ico, price fell almost 2 times, the team makes shitposting on Twitter. 3 times delay run of the project. never trust vanbex and all what they are connected. Dump shitcoin. There is a lot of good crypto projects, not a scam like Etherparty, you can go there.

Scam? just bc you dont like the project you called it scam, May the Fuel be with you man!

in my opinion this project promised something else as developed. I had the impression, they are going for the market of individuals and not writing smart contracts to make an ICO. There are plenty of this kind of service around.
12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: June 18, 2018, 06:52:31 AM
blockchain real estate could be huge same with block chain gaming it just needs the right app will look into this one.

You have chosen the rigth time to take a look at it, platform release is coming in a few days. I'm very courius, like anyone else over here, on how it will work and if it's going to be 100% functional

It should be, because there will be property on the platform with the launch but they said they would publish the terms, after that we can see it better.

just give it some years  Grin
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: June 09, 2018, 08:40:09 PM
Some numbers:

There are roughly 21M USD to invest in properties.
Also roughly 10M tokens to invest in the platform between all investors.
The team has ~4M tokens too.
And ~5.7M tokens reserve and bounty.

The apartments they bought cost around 1.5-2M USD, which is roughly 10% of the investment capital.

If only these apartments are listed on the platform at launch there are 2 scenarios for the investors:

1 - The exchange rate is adapted, so all investors can participate and earn rent until more properties are acquired. Basically the rent will be quite low, because it has to be distributed between everyone who invests, which I assume will be most people.
2 -  The exchange rate is calculated from the the 20M USD and 10M tokens and the quickest investors to react will be the only one to invest due to limited properties.

Also is it known if the team will invest its 4M tokens?

I am just trying to find out the most likely scenario for the launch.
What do you think?

be sure, they will take your money.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: June 09, 2018, 06:35:23 AM
Well why REAL team is mute the telegram for the discussion? I think discussion in telegram is a great way to share and to spread the news. With 3.6k of member in telegram REAL will get more interest.

when do they go live?

I have been waiting for alpha for 6 months

We've all been waiting, they can't go live witout solve the legal issues and the development is ongoing.

There are legal issues? Price is not healthy due to its volume. Perhaps they need to talk on other exchanges to enlist their token? No pressure on looking for bigger exchanges like Binance but the likes of Coinexchange, Livecoin, Nova and others are good start.

Platform is supposed to be released this month, REAL token holders exchange tokens into RPP. The only thing I am not clear on is if the RPP tokens can leave the platform.

https://medium.com/@real_token/march-update-63eada97395c

failed promises is always the start to going into oblivion. who didnt sell now, is a bag holder forever


pity the token buyer, almost -500% lost
They didnt care enough token buyer value
They just care about themself
I dont think they will able to do something about the volume
Shame on them


Someshow they should solve that legalize issue asap, they 3-4 months. Hope it'll be top and they can do many things in the meantime, like marketing, exchange, development, user experience, property deals, communication with the community...

Building up a platform takes some years. Years of bagholding, enjoy - its already paid  Grin
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Real Estate Blockchain Crowdfunding Technology on: March 12, 2018, 09:28:58 AM
Well why REAL team is mute the telegram for the discussion? I think discussion in telegram is a great way to share and to spread the news. With 3.6k of member in telegram REAL will get more interest.

when do they go live?

I have been waiting for alpha for 6 months

We've all been waiting, they can't go live witout solve the legal issues and the development is ongoing.

There are legal issues? Price is not healthy due to its volume. Perhaps they need to talk on other exchanges to enlist their token? No pressure on looking for bigger exchanges like Binance but the likes of Coinexchange, Livecoin, Nova and others are good start.

Platform is supposed to be released this month, REAL token holders exchange tokens into RPP. The only thing I am not clear on is if the RPP tokens can leave the platform.

https://medium.com/@real_token/march-update-63eada97395c

failed promises is always the start to going into oblivion. who didnt sell now, is a bag holder forever
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][ICO] Minexcoin - A new era of payments on: January 26, 2018, 05:59:13 PM
Tell me please, earlier you said that the bank's rates will change only when the value of the coin fluctuates. Last time noticed such a tendency when the coin's value becomes 0,0000,000 BTC and higher - you reduce the bank's rates, when the price returns to the opposite value, you do not return the bets back. Do not you think that this is wrong with the coin holders?
you dont read everything
minexbank algo still in test mode. they are not only track minexcoin price but also track all parking.
minexbank is still trying to control minexcoin price, so it is not for your own profit.
parking feature design as a retribution for minexcoin holder when the price is going down
better you read everything about how minexbank work on the whitepaper.

example like this

minexcoin price tied with all top 10 cryptocurrency not USD. when they all fall against USD, we also feel the same.

The one you highlight is more of the inflation of price rather than the rate. Minexbank is being recalibrated to determine if there would be market reaction after the recalibration. When nothing happens, it will continue to balance it's interest parking rate up to between 4% to 6%. Why Minexbank should decrease that? There are two possible thing to happen, But more of a positive for everyone. When rates go down, there would be less reward. It means less coins will be able to intervene in the market. For Example, 1,000 MNX at 4% per month can earn you 40 mnx, If the user decided to dump the 40mnx, there would be less impact to the price of MNX. Minexbank was designed to control the price not just to reward the holders. When there are only few coins that can interfere the market, there would be a reaction to the price. Either upward or downward. We can experience an upward movement when the liquidity of the coins became high. So that's why there's 3 platform needed to expand Minexcoin usability. Minexplatform,Minexexchange and Minexmarket will add liquidity and demand to the coin.

adoption, usergrowth etc. are the main aspects which are going to make minex more valueable. minexbank cant change that really.
17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: VERITASEUM DISCUSSION THREAD on: January 20, 2018, 08:08:53 AM
That doesn't make any sense. You're basically saying that if he wants to target institutional users, he should start by approaching people that are not his target?

Whatever I say will not make sense to you. Even institutional users come in various range of size; small, medium, and large. Instead of targeting large institutional users (like stock market operators), he may want to target small institutional users (businesses having the need to tokenize assets) to establish a convincing user base first.

Or to put it differently, instead of going for institutional users with business operations in the multi billions of USD, try targeting institutional users with business operations in the multi millions of USD. This may come as a surprise to some with no business strategy skillset, but it actually makes things smoother and more promising. One small steps at a time instead of eyeing for a huge big leap.

And stay on course (don't divert to elsewhere) on the platform being used for asset tokenization as well, beside providing P2P exchange. Asset tokenization will be one of the major economic wealth generation in the future.

So far, using 1 VERI to get 100 ETH of exposure for trading purposes is a petty venture. Good short-term prospect, but lousy long-term prospect. Where is the feature for asset tokenization, which is a great long-term prospect? Asset tokenization opens up a huge market for commercial financing and ownership, and Veritaseum being very early to have a close to fully-functional commercial platform, should also start establishing itself as the first to do asset tokenization for real.

Update:
And since VERI is very divisible, it should not be negative if used token can be burned to reduce the supply, just like many other ICOs are doing. Then value gain from holding VERI would be more positive. Market value goes up along with declining supply = bullish. Otherwise, we will see market value going up to multiple figure (just imagine) and yet the supply remain the same, putting a big brake on token price bullishness. As the token is very divisible, burning used token does not cause harm to Veritaseum's bottom line.

If my suggestion to burn token is feasible, viable, practical, and reasonable/logical, then it should be seriously considered. That's how progress takes place. Not by stubbornness, but by flexibility.

Update #2:
In fact, if 50% of the total token supply is burned, leaving only 50 million instead of the original 100 mil with 98% waiting to be sold, then the token price would be super bullish. Economic value to Veritaseum isn't in selling the same supply of VERI over and over again repeatedly, but in selling a dwindling supply of VERI that continue to increase in value higher and higher. And whether the value will increase or decrease does not depend on how much supply Reggie is holding in reserve, but in the economic use case of Veritaseum. There is no point not to burn used token if adoption/participation is weak. But if adoption/participation is strong, then burning used token will give further boost to the wealth generation effect of holding VERI. And the adoption/participation of Veritaseum depends on its economic use case, not on recycling sold token back to Veritaseum to be sold again and again. Because this recycling does not add any economic value to everyone, then by reasonable and logical right, burning used token should be seriously considered. Or better still, burning the 50 mil in reserve that will very likely never ever going to be sold would be even better. And if Reggie stubbornly insist on recycling sold VERI back to Veritaseum to be sold over and over again, then what difference does it make having 50 mil in total supply vs having 100 mil in total supply? The supply will not dwindle to zero anyway. And if the turnover will be high, then it makes no difference having 50 mil vs 100 mil in total supply. But in term of wealth generation to VERI holders, having just 50 mil in total supply means a very big difference.

Update #3:
Nowadays there are many ICOs that burn all unsold token. Even with very limited circulating and total supply, the business operation remain as sustainable as ever because the token is very divisible. If token is not divisible, then 100 mil means exactly 100 mil. But since it is very divisible up to 18 decimal, then 100 mil can mean 100 mil x 10^18 in total supply in the absolute sense, which is insanely far more than necessary for everyone's use. Since Reggie is flexible in regulatory compliance, then why not be flexible in burning unnecessary supply of token too?

A person's family wealth is not dictated by how much greed he has in his heart and mind, but by how much economic value he can contribute to the society.

Update #4:
In fact, the more token is burned (from that 98 mil supply in reserve), the better. A poor guy can have 1 VERI to get 100 ETH exposure. If supply is burned by 10x less, then price will adjust to 0.1 VERI for 100 ETH exposure. Will this impact institutions trying to buy in bulk from Veritaseum to use the platform? Not at all. The value proposition will remain just the same as before. Institutions and government agencies are very hard and slow to change. Will Reggie be just the same?
If you disagree with the CEO's approach you probably should sell your VERI and move on. I don't see that changing... ever... no matter what is posted in this forum.

I for one, have full faith that Reggie is running his company very effectively and pursuing the highest value opportunities and customers first. Be aware that his priorities are going to be for long term sustainable profit for Veritaseum, and not necessarily for token holders. Although I will argue that most things good for the company are good for the token holder.

You suggest some measures to manipulate token value by manipulating supply, but I do not see the current supply and distribution as a problem. Until this big dump, VERI had a $1B valuation which is phenomenal by any measure. I fail to see the driving need or value in making any changes to token supply, distribution, or usage.

its a scam. anyone knows. just ignore this token and you will be happy at the end. but this $50 Billion marketcap is nice, guys just dont trade this coin higher then Apple, ok? LOL

18  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔵 [ANN][ICO] SOLD OUT! Aurora 🔥 Decentralized Finance and Banking + Exchange 🔵 on: January 19, 2018, 08:16:21 PM
never saw so easy trading on a decentralised exchange before
19  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: 🔵 [ANN][ICO] SOLD OUT! Aurora 🔥 Decentralized Finance and Banking + Exchange 🔵 on: January 10, 2018, 12:11:52 AM
Good afternoon. How are you going to get dividends? Will it be regular investment or have you come up with a kind of unique idea?

its described in the whitepaper
20  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: EOS - Asynchronous Smart Contract Platform - (Dan Larimer of Bitshares/Steem) on: January 09, 2018, 11:54:48 PM
Question: has anyone sent eos tokens to the exodus wallet using metamask?

working like a charm
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