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141  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if a person died with BTC!! on: December 08, 2017, 12:34:46 PM
Interesting idea. But, I think, people trust their relatives, and they will have access to their accounts, will be able to dispose of bitcoin. But, if a person goes out of life, and no one except him has access, then yes, a purse with bitcoins forever disappears into being ..
142  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: How do you think upcoming bitcoin futures can affect the market?? on: December 08, 2017, 12:27:10 PM
I just read this Coindesk article (link: https://www.coindesk.com/threat-bitcoin-futures/) about futures, and it says:

But here’s the thing: the money will not be pouring into the bitcoin market. It will be buying synthetic derivatives that don’t directly impact bitcoin at all.

For every $100 million (or whatever) that supermegahedgefundX puts into bitcoin futures, no extra money goes into bitcoin itself. These futures do not require ownership of actual bitcoins, not even on contract maturity.


---> so, if futures are just basically bets on the Bitcoin price movements and totally outside the Bitcoin blockchain, why would they have any effect on the price? Why would Bitcoin price go up or down because of futures exists? Anyone could make any bets of the price movements already right now as it is. Ofc you can argue to some extent that people who bet the price to go up might go and buy Bitcoin their selves to help boost it. But there are so many whales who have bought bitcoins at 1$ or 10$ years ago who really control such things. If some Wall Street fat cat goes now to the market when the price is 15.000 there's a limit how much he can buy it without the risk growing way too high.

This whole thing feels like inside out. There have been long time some ETFs you can buy, where the fund actually owns bitcoins. So, each time someone buys the asset the fund goes and buys Bitcoins. This is something that effects the price, yet people are talking about only these futures.

Could someone explain this, who knows the futures market better  Huh


Perhaps, I will agree with you. But, when rates make the whales of the market, it matters to small investors. They start to buy or sell in a panic. After all, I think that whales are smarter. So there will be a price manipulation.
143  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: McDonalds to accept Bitcoin by 2018 on: December 08, 2017, 12:15:29 PM
It will be interesting, if it is really so, but that's just how many people will pay a constantly expensive bitcoin in McDonald's - it's not clear.
144  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin surpasses $19,000 on Coinbase! on: December 07, 2017, 06:44:02 PM
Bitcoin jumped to 16.5 thousand dollars, it's magical, but, there will be a correction to 10-12 thousand + unknown, which will follow after December 10.
145  Economy / Services / Re: [Free]▂▃▅▆█ BITCOIN TRANSACTION ACCELERATOR █▆▅▃▂ for Unconfirmed transactions on: December 07, 2017, 05:09:07 PM
please accelerate https://blockchain.info/tx/ebf96dfbca6bbcc9df780d29df9588b824ab2f53afb7be6fc5a4a9937ffdae87 > thanks
146  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / Re: 🚀🔥[ANN] HOQU.io🔥🚀 - Best service for affiliate marketing (sale starts today!) on: December 02, 2017, 03:56:23 PM
Hi all bounty participants! Please read this message carefully  Wink

❗️ Due to the token sale was prolonged, here is the statement about bounty campaign key dates. ❗️  

1. Current bounty round will be finished at 26.12.2017
   We will need +one extra week to finish calculations and tokens will be added to participants' accounts on HOQU website. Tokens will be NON transferable.

   Bounty amount will be 2% counted from tokens sold during first round of pre-sale (21.11.2017 to 26.12.2017).

2. Bounty round 2 starts 27.12.2017: only signature and social media campaign

3. 26.02.2018 (+one extra week) all bounty #1 participants will get additional tokensin proportion of 2% from tokens sold during first round of main sale (27.12.2017 to 26.02.2018) using old number of stakes.

4. 26.02.2018 (+one extra week) participants of bounty #2 will get tokens from 1% of tokens sold from 27.12.2017 to 26.02.2018

Usefull links: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2255775.0 and https://bounty.hoqu.io

Hello, why i no have stakes last week? Thanks
147  Local / Юристы / Re: Блокировка карты сбербанка on: December 01, 2017, 05:49:01 PM
А может хорошим вариантом будет использование карты европейского банка или яндекс денег? Как вариант, Думаю, тогда блочить не будут, но не пробовал. Самому скоро предстоит оформлять вывод.
148  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: When the banks decide to start the war on Bitcoin on: November 29, 2017, 03:45:28 PM
I think banks are already struggling with crypto currency. But, this, as they say, can not be stopped. More and more people are pouring into it and making money here.
149  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin saving. on: November 29, 2017, 11:36:40 AM
Consider bitcoin, as an investment and asset? I agree, the option is excellent, I also think I should do it. Self-confidence will bring a lot of money, by its growth.
150  Economy / Speculation / Re: Why is the price of bitcoin rising so high? on: November 29, 2017, 06:54:16 AM
It will grow further, up to 40-50 thousand in 2018. It's normal, money flows in, more people use it, it's normal, and it's not a bubble.
151  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What do you think? on: November 29, 2017, 06:52:48 AM
Let them have. The more people use bitcoin, the better, and for bitkoyna and for us. But, there is a risk of pouring out a lot of capital, because of this, the rate will fall in the short term.
152  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoins Everywhere? Not yet... on: November 29, 2017, 06:51:16 AM
Firstly - online shopping, lotteries, food delivery and so on. Secondly, loans and credits (if you manage to stabilize volatility).
153  Other / Off-topic / Re: What wallets do you use? on: November 29, 2017, 06:32:23 AM
I use a USB flash drive + web interface, there is no paper, otherwise what difference from fiat.
154  Economy / Speculation / Re: price of bitcoin in december? on: November 29, 2017, 06:28:44 AM
I think that it will go higher. There will be 12-15 thousand for a coin. At the end of December - futures are scheduled, so we are waiting.
155  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the effect of forks on bitcoin on: November 29, 2017, 06:27:29 AM
I need your candid opinion on the likely effect all these forks can have on bitcoin. Thank You
It seems that the forks will lead to an excessive supply, because bitcoin is always about 21 million, and with forks much more. And then the price of bitcoin will start to fall, I hope it's not right, and forks to fly away with time.
156  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin peak price by mid 2018? on: November 29, 2017, 06:23:34 AM
Hi. I think that around 20-30 thousand dollars. Why? The infusion of capital from funds, investment investors will catch up, etc. There is information about funds with trillions of dollars, which is interesting bitcoin.
157  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Why some countries legalised bitcoin? on: November 29, 2017, 06:21:11 AM
Hey. Yes, Belarus is on the threshold of this. Countries legalize bitcoin because he can get taxes from him when withdrawing money. It is convenient and profitable. Countries are keeping pace with the times. Well done.
158  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ⚡ HEALTH MONITOR⚡ | Crowdinvesting in innovative medical diagnostic on: November 23, 2017, 03:45:01 PM

Not experienced investors should not make hasty decisions in this case. Always need to study all information about the project and make a decision only after receiving all the necessary information Wink
159  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ⚡ HEALTH MONITOR⚡ | Crowdinvesting in innovative medical diagnostic on: November 21, 2017, 08:14:43 PM
Hi, I'm new to this. What is this project that causes so much noise in this ICO branch? I got a little acquainted with your product and came to the conclusion that you are interesting guys. Perhaps I will take part in the ICO Wink
160  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] ⚡ HEALTH MONITOR⚡ | Crowdinvesting in innovative medical diagnostic on: November 16, 2017, 03:42:02 PM
And what is the price for PreICO for your token? I know that the ICO will be $ 30, but what's the price now? I'm interested, maybe I'll even take part. It's good that there is still time to decide Cool

we are giving a 20% discount. We know it won't generate an hype, but we want protect the tokens value after ICO
Excuse me. I'm new to this field. Only I understand how to participate in the ICO. What currencies do you accept at your ICO?
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