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1  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers on: Today at 03:02:58 PM
Bump!
Managers, another reminder: Please create an ANN thread if you haven't already, and for those who still haven't PM'ed me your signed message, do send it too via PM. I can only update once all managers co-operate.  
Advertisement spot for the month of September is up for rent. PM me and start negotiating.  Cheesy

Its interesting how is the price for hire such a Bounty Manager.
Propably are diffrent price if we only want hire for
A) Preparing Bounty Campaign (making topic/signatures/google forms)
B) Except preparing bounty campaign also controlling work bounty hunters and responding as a support in Telegram Chat.
Please stop shitposting!
2  Other / Meta / Re: Forum Bitcointalk so hard now, i give up. on: September 17, 2018, 03:32:40 PM
i dont know what admin do for he make the rules about ranking in Bitcointalk, because i think very hard to get merit and make my ranking increase to Member, but now i lost my hope to get ranking Member, because my ranking down to Newbie and i dont know how i can do in this forum, i give up in this forum, because now in this forum to up ranking in Jr Member so hard, especially in the ranking Member or more. i hope the admin make ranking in this forum is easy again.

thank you
k bye
3  Other / Meta / Re: @theymos, can we do something for you?? on: September 16, 2018, 03:29:58 PM
- Is there anything the community can do to help you with the current forum situation?? /Except the reporting/
Bend over.  Grin jk or... not.

- Is there anything the community can do to help you with the current forum situation?? /Except the reporting/
So long as he has trust issues, not really.

- Will you choose new moderators /add more patrollers??
Lol. No. Its Slim Shady theymos. He'll disappear for a while and come back,and cause some immense panic amongst shitposters.

- Shall we continue reporting?? Hilariousetc doesn't see much of impact of the reports, mostly waste of time. Even if we ban them but they keep coming back.
Here's the thing with reporting, hardly people report, and even if they do, they give up. I know for a fact that most of them do, so did I(after 100 reports). There is more spam than reports. For every 1 report, its safe to assume that 10 shitposts are made if not more.   

- Can we start taking one by one the suggestions marked as OK, maybe one in a month for the easy ones and one in two-tree months for the other that takes more time.
And how would you implement those suggestions without theymos's right(or left) hand?


- Can you share one or two hours per month to have a conversation with the community on the current issues??
It can be motivational for the both sides.
Conversation won't do much or you know anything. While he can give reasons why an issue can/cannot be solved, action needs to be taken. I know that action is sometimes taken, but its always too late or never.

- Can we have a dedicated board for discussions with reading restriction for people with low rank and low report score???
Please don't. Its unnecessary.
Everywhere who cares about the forum, comes and says that theymos doesn't do this or that: Just imagine for an admin, who's given an unasked responsibility , who hardly has time, has trust issues for various reasons,and other things comes to his forum to read what's going on and all he sees is: theymos said this or that,and on top of that complaining about it, its just too much handle for one fucking person.

If theymos needed our help, he'd have asked. In fact he did ask,right before the merit system was implemented. He is open to suggestions, but not to those that restrict users in any kind.

Yours sincerely,

theymos' advocate,[not really]
pugman.
4  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org YouTube channel? on: September 16, 2018, 03:00:45 PM
Can i just say: "I completely agree"? Cheesy
Now that you said it, I am going to report you and get you banned for shitposting/plagiarism. Grin

I kind of like the idea, especially if it includes helpful video guides and explanations of the rules or standards here. We could even link to them or show a welcome video in the 'Newbie Welcome Message' I proposed here. Maybe watching the video is a requirement for all new users. Would be quite easy to get people to do subtitles for different languages as well. I'm sure we could get some user generated content and if they're good enough they can be uploaded to the main channel. Their reward could be in things like merit, or as you mentioned in cash if they're of a very high standard (and I'm sure they would also receive merit in addition). Maybe there could be a special badge for great video content creators as well.
Youtube videos can be monetized, so contributors can get a part of it, or a pre-deal can be set,if this idea ever goes beyond just "discussion". It'd help a lot if videos are embeded on this forum and like,high ranked members could only have the ability to do that.

Don't bother starting a youtube channel or anything would bring more population to bitcointalk,so long as things are bad here. If you start youtube, more things would become a "priority" then. First,try getting rid of current issues, this will only add up as a burden to you.

Agreed. I think we should be trying to get on top of the spam and lack of action regarding the multiple issues here (ICO sig spam, shitposting farming, lack of mods/admins and redistributing workload, accounts not getting recovered etc.) before anything else.
All this could be easily solved. I suggested one: Instead of removing signatures, blacklist the signatures of shitposters. Give certain mods the ability to whitelist/blacklist signatures(thoughts?). That'd ruin their lives. They'd come back,yes, but if high ranked shitposters can't earn shit, then we'd only have to deal with lower ranked members. And this might warn the new ranked members.


Also no one is even warned of anything or even aware of rules. Hell the rules aren't even "official". Oh, and the help page is so outdated.

theymos wake up! These YouTube channel could be taken care later, first please just solve the issues that needs to be addressed. BTW, where is cyrus?

I like Doug and he's certainly entertaining, but not sure sure if he'd want to dedicate time to someone else's channel. I don't think he's low on money either so not sure how much he'd want to be paid to do so Cheesy.
No. Please not Doug, I don't hate him or something(I don't know him either), but some one else needs to do this youtube thing(please don't hire slickage for this too). You don't want to see threads like when is the youtube channel releasing,lol.
5  Other / Meta / Re: A special Archive for truly memorable/historical threads on: September 15, 2018, 12:05:42 PM
Or... Instead of moving the thread to any other board, theymos can just add the option of adding an archive option for each thread if it's possible; and then those threads could just stay in the board if they are archived , posts won't be made there then. I have seen something like that on reddit and it might be pretty useful IMO.
6  Other / Meta / Re: Bitcointalk.org YouTube channel? on: September 14, 2018, 07:54:30 PM
- Summaries of recent high-quality posts
Maybe not this. Only the posts made by nullius, achow101 and gmaxwell will end up there.

Recently the idea occurred to me that it might be cool to have a bitcointalk.org YouTube channel. It could contain things such as:
 - Bitcoin information
 - Summaries of recent high-quality posts
 - Summarized crypto news, but from a neutral perspective, without any pump-and-dump

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.

Does this sound like a good idea? Is anyone interested in producing this content? I suppose we'd need at least someone with good camera presence, someone skilled at video editing, and one or more script writers. I might be willing to dedicate some forum funds to this.
Why don't you also add the courses idea with this? A video course is much better than PPT or a document. It'd be easier to find people for this, but it'd be better for you to hire them offline/IRL,since you have a little issues with trust. Be careful though, you might have to spend a little more than what you might think,depending on what content the people make.

If there was regular (eg. weekly) content, this might be a good way of attracting good new users and making existing users feel more engaged in the community.
It won't,not until moderation becomes strict and tight. Spamming will only become more. There are downsides to his: More spamming, more work for mods, which would lead to more spending. You should focus more on the members who left this place(because they stasrted hating it). New members wouldn't get what bitcoin is for a while,and they would keep asking the same questions again and again.

Don't bother starting a youtube channel or anything would bring more population to bitcointalk,so long as things are bad here. If you start youtube, more things would become a "priority" then. First,try getting rid of current issues, this will only add up as a burden to you.
7  Economy / Reputation / Re: marlboroza - about the red trust - Nel.network fake team on: September 14, 2018, 05:37:47 PM
I respectfully disagree with people who say managers shouldn't go and check for fake teams and stuff like that. A campaign manager's only job isn't just to count posts and reward participants for their work. While this maybe a tedious task, they should at least take certain precautions(mentioned by suchmoon),it should take a couple of hours. Or if you want hire a Private Investigator sort of a person to take care of it.

Posting something =/= endorsing something, especially NOT when a disclaimer is present. If one fails to read or understand the disclaimer, then it is only their (the participant's) fault.
Most people don't have a proper/any disclaimer. When you make an ANN thread/run bounties for an ICO, you're endorsing them,because you're getting paid for that. Uunless there's a disclaimer that says: "I do not endorse this project"(which is even worse for the company that paid you to represent). That makes them less of a victim or whatever. But that disclaimer shouldn't protect them,they were still paid for that.


Exactly. The current super-majority are jr. member spammers; thus the damage (not being paid out fictional tokens) is negligible when you look at the big picture.
This wouldn't have been the case had it been a bitcoin paying campaign. That's double standards.

Luckily none of you are lawmakers anywhere. Tongue
Yet its acted like that is the case.
8  Other / Meta / Re: Vote for new moderators who deserve it. @theymos please take a look. on: September 14, 2018, 01:18:32 PM
I became a mod at Senior I think, and rank isn't that relevant, but the longer you've been here the better, especially if you're very, very active but the number of reports you're making should be the biggest factor. The Philippines board already has two mods and Rickbig is very active here so not sure if it desperately needs another, but we do need more patrollers and dedicated sub board mods. 
Apparently they aren't very active in their board, so I have been told. That board doesn't have enough merit sources too ,it seems.

We need mods for a lot of boards, but is there any use for us to complain and just complain?
9  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Should we stop expose scam ? And how working trust system. on: September 13, 2018, 10:21:50 PM
To be honest, I noticed lot of positive rating (green trust ) is for succesful trading, like bought some token or coin. I can't see much green trust for forum activity. Is this really need to give positive rating for successful trade ? Can't be use neutral feedback ? Why there is neutral feedback option? Shouldn't use it ? Sometimes green trust made confuse. May be someone will trust him/her blindly without check trust comment. Although green trust isn't mean a person couldn't scam but it has a value.
Trust system was meant for trading things,so there's nothing wrong with that. Then things became horrible,and people got tags for so many irrelevant things in the trust system.

Should you stop or not stop exposing scams is on you. It takes a lot of time and effort, and you get nothing for it, except trying to help the community. Its subjective, its based on how your life is based, and a lot more things. Exposing scams would lead nowhere on this forum, they'll just come back. Negative feedback has no real consequences, yet people give death threats in return.

theymos should be having a better answer for this, because for me personally, the entire trust system is useless,and is limited only within the forum's bounds. Scammers are just chillin.
10  Other / Meta / Re: Seriously, theymos ??? on: September 12, 2018, 08:49:53 PM
It's simple. You take your hand down from front, stick it up your ass and wipe till the process is complete.

Sometimes I just eat toilet paper to speed the whole process up.
Hey, you gotta do what you gotta do.

Its very healthy what you're doing, better than what those fucking perverted doctors give in the name of medicine.
11  Other / Meta / Re: Seriously, theymos ??? on: September 12, 2018, 08:37:49 PM
I assumed "from the front" meant "you pass your hand underneath from the front", which would be wiping from back to front.

I of course wipe from front to back, because I'm not disgusting.
It's simple. You take your hand down from front, stick it up your ass and wipe till the process is complete.

Great factoid. Bitcoin forum by the way.
12  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Overview of Bitcointalk Signature Anti-Spam Campaign Managers on: September 11, 2018, 02:59:04 PM
This is truly a great job and review. I just would add to Lauda's overview "has a sharp tongue"  Cheesy I flighted with him/her my own couple of times and I know that I'm not the one. Add to that her/his manner of commenting can be really rough, but I admit his/her professionalism.
Flighted?

I am not gonna add words that Lauda has a sharp tongue,for people might(will) take it in a wrong way. Thanks though.  Smiley
13  Other / Meta / Re: Vote for new moderators who deserve it. @theymos please take a look. on: September 11, 2018, 01:11:28 PM
There are multiple user's who wouldn't like me to be the mod or even patroller. I am good with being a volunteer. Not good with technicality, that leaves me with two boards, discussion and economics to express my opinion. I am just reporting so I can express. And Loyce V, haven't seen the guy get involved in forum politics, like welsh and really helpful with a stable/sensible head. He deserves it.
What "users" think mostly won't matter, because they just aren't happy because things might not have turned that way. There's not much technicality in this forum, in terms of modding, you'll probably get the gist of it when/if you become a staff member. Obviously Loyce and Welsh deserve/d to be a mod, and they have had my support for quite a while now. 1 or 2 mods, won't curb down the entire spam. If mods are given more (paid)incentives, and reporters get more of non-paid incentives, then the spam is gonna go down. Otherwise, people would just moderating for formality purposes, if that makes sense?

mdayonliner ? Is this a joke ?
No. I was suggesting people who have more than 1000 reports, and I have seen them publicly revealing that. I forgot to nominate foxpup too.  Undecided

Don't you have to know just a little bit about crypto to be a mod on a crypto bitcoin forum ?
FTFY.

Not necessarily though. You think all mods have a diverse knowledge of how bitcoin and crypto works,equivalent to the level of knowledge that achow101/gmaxwell/nullius/theymos/other geeks possess? It depends on which board they moderate,and it depends on how their judgement is based.

The guy's a joke who's only good at kissing asses in meta. And yeah, giving mod powers to a guy everybody hates would be a great idea lol.  Roll Eyes
Idk about hate, I don't give a shit about it, and I am not somebody who gives people power. Who do you think I am? Odin?  Shocked
No one nominated them. Someone mentioned iasenko is much busy he can't spend much time so I exclude him. Btw it's look like theymos will not reply here.
Ref 1: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5023985.msg45391692#msg45391692

Its alright though, you might have missed it, I am not blaming you.

But I don't know if anyone is taking this poll seriously, for I was "nominated".  Embarrassed
14  Other / Meta / Re: Wall of fame / shame. Shit posts so bad that they are actually funny on: September 10, 2018, 09:31:25 PM
Indeed. How much times I saw the same kind of posts, if I would create a topic about that and report all of those weak posters the thread would be veeeery long, so long that it would be boring to read, cause of the most of reported posts would look as combination of hundreds of "interesting project".
What is the target of all those people who never will rank up with such kind of posts?
Are you trying to shitpost in a shitpost "reveal" thread? That's some daring level of irony.
15  Other / Meta / Re: Partially decentralised moderating on: September 10, 2018, 09:02:34 PM
Not the best idea, tbh. People would just report 200 posts, legitimate or not, and delete something that's very crucial, abuse their powers, and add more work to admins, for restoring purposes.

Centralized moderation is better, for this forum especially. We only have a few mods, which isn't great, but its not bad either. We could have mods assigned to each and every board,and have patrollers and global mods to help the other mods. We Admins, could even have a new mod type, given higher power than the normal mods, and lower power than global mods,for managing an entire board(like board number 1). The forum's way of moderation is bad. Things need to change, but I doubt if it ever will.
16  Other / Meta / Re: Vote for new moderators who deserve it. @theymos please take a look. on: September 10, 2018, 08:55:55 PM
I have the least number of reports in comparison to everyone else in the "nominees".
I have to ask what's probably a stupid question, but how can I tell how many reports other members have made?  Is there a way to do that?  I know how to view my own number, but I've never seen a link to any statistics on anybody else.  
Nah.. no way.

I would have thought that I had the fewest.
Quote
You have reported 90 posts with 98% accuracy (82 good, 2 bad, 6 unhandled)

and I don't agree that the bad ones were bad either. Smiley
I am probably with the second least reports:

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You have reported 122 posts with 99% accuracy (107 good, 2 bad, 13 unhandled). Do not worry about your accuracy too much; one accurate report is worth many inaccurate reports.

In all honesty, kudos to all the users who have reported more than 300 posts. Like, dedicating time to something that has no return personally,and yet doing it,is not something everybody does.

OP, how long is the voting for? Not that it matters, but just curious.
17  Other / Meta / Re: Vote for new moderators who deserve it. @theymos please take a look. on: September 10, 2018, 03:40:04 PM
Come on chipmixer campaigners, now is the time to prove your shilling skills. Prove that you're better than QS(at shilling) and abuse this vote, and make all the 5 chipmixer shills in the nominees, a mod, lol.
Jokes all aside, I have the least number of reports in comparison to everyone else in the "nominees". If I ever become a mod, I'd be a living hell for the shitposters in that board. I'll mostly go on a nuking spree, and delete the unnecessary posts. I don't really report because it's double work. But when there are better reporters, I think they deserve to be a mod more than me.

A few members are missing out, especially Krishanapramod, mdayonliner, ,xtraelv, Lafu, iasenko(These people more than 1000 reports IIRC).
18  Other / Meta / Re: Please Delete My Account on: September 09, 2018, 10:25:40 AM
And the forum should have this "feature".
They did, in the initial years. It was removed later on for reasons.
19  Other / Meta / Re: [New Feature Idea] Saving avatars - new forum, or current SMF on: September 09, 2018, 03:56:58 AM
I would like if we could upload avatars directly from an website than going to the website downloading it and uploading it.. Too much time consuming if you ask me.  Undecided
20  Other / Meta / Re: I can't access topic in altcoin - need moderator on: September 08, 2018, 03:30:53 PM
I don't really know, I opened scam accusation against them yesterday, so somewhere between yesterday at 9 PM forum time and, well, now.
I don't see any airdrop thread or them asking for people to post to get paid anywhere.

So the next possible reason for the thread to be thrashed is:

- Plagiarized content(which they are accused and proven guilty of)

I found nothing else after that.
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