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Sorry for the probably stupid question, but I don't know what an omni explorer is. Can someone explain how to do this? At least provide a link please?
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Hi, I just found about this project today. This is definitively very interesting and as I am considering throwing a couple of btc into it, I am wondering if there is somewhere where I can monitor the current state of the presale, in real time or close to it? Specifically I'd like to be able see exactly how many coins are already sold at any given point in time.
Thanks
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My trust in DT's skill and integrity remains unshaken. Even after the not cool at all -8.9% figure we are seeing today. I have chosen to believe his speech about how the worse is behind, and hope that we will see profits from now on.
But I would like to know about this ZIP.A and Rebate situation. What happened? Are there chances of getting some money back at all?
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I risked a few coins for fun, and payments are already coming in. If the rate of payments holds I'll definitively get the initial coins back and then some more  |
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Thanks for this Stephen, I will forward this important concerns to Joe Justice. The new website is almost ready an I am hoping we will have a better solution.
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Tune in. Shoot ALL your questions.
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Huge news, awesome. The bitcoin address is shown in the press release, but doesn't accompany the "bitcoin accepted here" logo elsewhere on the site, as far as I can tell.
I will get this aspect rectified. Will work on it later this evening. Got to get back to the warehouse(s) now. ~Bruno~ wat |
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OP here.
We are very excited about this.
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I will be glad to answer any questions, just go ahead and ask.
Rocky, your work in support of Bitcoin and the P2P economy is fantastic. I see that one of the principles of Wikispeed is equitable distribution of wealth. (with interest paid to those "investors" whether the investment is in the form of "money, time, cookies or supplies"). How does Wikispeed guage each person's contribution once there is wealth to distribute? (Is there some tally ledger?) I have an idea that I wonder if there would be interest in. Raise $18K USD worth of funds for the purchase of a completed Wikispeed C3 using GLBSE. So this is no different from pre-selling, like what you see on Kickstarter, except that because the amount of money involved, individuals would pay in advance for just a fraction (share) of a Wikispeed C3. Then once that vehicle is ready for delivery, it is sold by auction. The first opportunity for bidding is given exclusively to those who bought shares directly pre-IPO (they can sell their shares through the exchange after the IPO but they retain the ability to enter the auction). If that auction results in no bids above the $18K USD purchase price (in terms of USDs) then the vehicle is auctioned off to the public. Shareholders then receive the proceeds of the auction. This is a bit further down the rabbit hole than the simple pre-selling like what you see on Kickstarter because it is not a direct 1:1 consumer-supplier relationship. So I doubt this would be possible without going the GLBSE route (at least not for a quantity 1 and a relatively smallish total amount ($18K) involved). I wouldn't be the right person to set this up on GLBSE, but I'ld be willing to buy a few "shares" in this. This is a brilliant idea. Thanks! I think I know the right person to help us get it done... About the distribution of wealth within WIKISPEED, I am as curious about that as you are. But I have a long-view outlook. For me the most important reward is that we change the world. Also, thanks for the acknowledgement! It means a lot. I would be happy to help out with this, setting up IPOs has become something of a expertise for me  I think I have setup about 7-8 IPOs either completly or partially  //DeaDTerra This is happening |
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I have some questions.
It looks like only 5k out of 50 was raised on the crowdfunding website linked in the article. (It appears closed/deadline over?)
What now? Are you guys still working on ways to raise money?
What engine is being used in the demo vehicle ? Why isn't it mentioned anywhere? Is there going to be a different one used in production?
Will there be a kit available for the X-prize car?
Yes, there still needs a lot of money to be raised for safety tests of the new model. The faster we raise these funds, the faster the WIKISPEED C3 commuter cars will be ready. The proceeds of selling the current prototypes will go to this goal, as well as all donations! It is worth mentioning here that "Our Bitcoin address for donations is 12JiynsQcfNLbeWnM7cdnYGo3axPXDcwCV". This is VERY important! For your more technical questions, stay tuned: Joe Justice will be in the forum as soon as possible (although I am not sure exactly when because I think he is in New Zealand at the moment). But he'll be here, I promise. |
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OP here.
We are very excited about this.
[..]
I will be glad to answer any questions, just go ahead and ask.
Rocky, your work in support of Bitcoin and the P2P economy is fantastic. I see that one of the principles of Wikispeed is equitable distribution of wealth. (with interest paid to those "investors" whether the investment is in the form of "money, time, cookies or supplies"). How does Wikispeed guage each person's contribution once there is wealth to distribute? (Is there some tally ledger?) I have an idea that I wonder if there would be interest in. Raise $18K USD worth of funds for the purchase of a completed Wikispeed C3 using GLBSE. So this is no different from pre-selling, like what you see on Kickstarter, except that because the amount of money involved, individuals would pay in advance for just a fraction (share) of a Wikispeed C3. Then once that vehicle is ready for delivery, it is sold by auction. The first opportunity for bidding is given exclusively to those who bought shares directly pre-IPO (they can sell their shares through the exchange after the IPO but they retain the ability to enter the auction). If that auction results in no bids above the $18K USD purchase price (in terms of USDs) then the vehicle is auctioned off to the public. Shareholders then receive the proceeds of the auction. This is a bit further down the rabbit hole than the simple pre-selling like what you see on Kickstarter because it is not a direct 1:1 consumer-supplier relationship. So I doubt this would be possible without going the GLBSE route (at least not for a quantity 1 and a relatively smallish total amount ($18K) involved). I wouldn't be the right person to set this up on GLBSE, but I'ld be willing to buy a few "shares" in this. This is a brilliant idea. Thanks! I think I know the right person to help us get it done... About the distribution of wealth within WIKISPEED, I am as curious about that as you are. But I have a long-view outlook. For me the most important reward is that we change the world. Also, thanks for the acknowledgement! It means a lot. |
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OP here.
We are very excited about this. And we really hope this will be greatly rewarding for Bitcoin and for WIKISPEED alike.
Finally, some competition for Lazslo's pizzas! Who will make history and be the first Bitcoin WIKISPEED car buyer?
Personally I see this as the moment when tunnel-drilling machines meet in the middle after years of working on their own: WIKISPEED and Bitcoin share a vision of a world that is made by us, for us. WIKISPEED on how to make complex stuff collaboratively, Bitcoin on solving the riddles of decentralized money.
I will be glad to answer any questions, just go ahead and ask.
You work for wikispeed? This is an awesome project, good job. You should work with bitcoincard to create a mesh network to get stats on the car use, as well as help out the bitcoin network. I checked the site, might have missed it, but how much will one of these cost? No, I actually work for the P2P Foundation. I was the person who got their salary paid in Bitcoin a few months ago. I also wrote an op-ed for Al Jazeera about Bitcoin called "Understanding Bitcoin". I volunteered to help WIKISPEED accept Bitcoin. I contacted WIKISPEED with the idea and they encouraged me to join the team to make it happen. I am doing this as a volunteer, volunteering as much for Bitcoin as for WIKISPEED. About your bitcoincard idea: hell yes! send me your email or your skype name and we will do all we can to do it, with your help... The prototypes are $25k, but there is a 3% discount for Bitcoin-paying customers! |
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Oh god, I'm regretting having offered to answer all questions.
I was thinking more about Bitcoin related questions, not technical details about the cars .I am in charge of Bitcoin-related aspects. I don't know the answers to these technical questions. But, I will get WIKISPEED founder Joe Justice to the forum as soon as possible to do an AMA, he will answer technical questions for everyone interested.
Sorry about this, and thanks for the patience -all the answers will come soon!
Still, I'll continue to answer all questions I can.
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OP here.
We are very excited about this. And we really hope this will be greatly rewarding for Bitcoin and for WIKISPEED alike.
Finally, some competition for Lazslo's pizzas! Who will make history and be the first Bitcoin WIKISPEED car buyer?
Personally I see this as the moment when tunnel-drilling machines meet in the middle after years of working on their own: WIKISPEED and Bitcoin share a vision of a world that is made by us, for us. WIKISPEED on how to make complex stuff collaboratively, Bitcoin on solving the riddles of decentralized money.
I will be glad to answer any questions, just go ahead and ask.
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WIKISPEED + Bitcoinwww.wikispeed.comIf you haven't heard about WIKISPEED before, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x8jdx-lf2DwOr read this: http://www.forbes.com/sites/stevedenning/2012/05/10/wikispeed-how-a-100-mpg-car-was-developed-in-3-months/Quotes from the WIKISPEED + Bitcoin press release ( http://wikispeed.com/wikispeed-team-blog/wikispeed-first-car-maker-in-the-world-to-accept-bitcoin-press-release): "For the first time in history, it is now possible to purchase a car manufactured by a distributed, collaborative corporation using currency issued by no bank.""Because Bitcoin transfer fees are dramatically lower than those of conventional systems, we are offering a 3% discount in all our prices when payed in Bitcoin."Full text of the press release: July 24, 2012, Seattle, WA, USA. For Immediate Release: WIKISPEED, first car-maker in the world to accept Bitcoin WIKISPEED is excited to announce that starting today, it is possible to purchase WIKISPEED cars and car parts or to support our projects with Bitcoin. We believe the decentralised, open and internet-native nature of Bitcoin resonates deeply with the essence of the WIKISPEED project. Our name, WIKISPEED, not only reflects the network origin of our project but more importantly, how the network itself is the core of our methodology. Like a Wikipedia article, our cars are designed and built by teams of collaborative volunteer teams distributed around the world. Similarly, our design and knowledge is open and available for anyone to use and improve. The ‘Wiki’ approach to physical manufacturing allows WIKISPEED teams to perform complex tasks in a fraction of the time and at a fraction of the cost of industry norms. The networked and open nature of the Bitcoin monetary system allows its users to perform transactions at substantially cheaper cost and at substantially faster speed, worldwide. WIKISPEED and Bitcoin have in common that they enable freely-assembled teams and individuals to perform activities that previously required bureaucracies, companies, or even nations. For the first time in history, it is now possible to purchase a car manufactured by a distributed, collaborative corporation using currency issued by no bank. We see this as a landmark in the maturation of the web: a step forward in the convergence of activities driven by networking logics in all fields of human life. This convergence of network culture, network manufacturing and network economics holds the promise to fundamentally change the world, bringing back power to the people. A world where an open source car can be purchased with open source money is already a new world with new and exciting potential. Bitcoin can now be used to purchase the limited edition WIKISPEED SGT01, a replica of our X-Prize winning prototype for $25.000 USD. A comfortable commuter car, the WIKISPEED C3, is in development and will be Bitcoin-compatible at launch. We aim to deliver the C3 as a complete car for $17,995 USD and as a kit for $10,000 USD. All WIKISPEED cars are ultra-efficient, modular, safety-tested, and deliver 100mpg or more. He have also opened an online store where WIKISPEED car parts are available at http://wikispeed.com/Store. Because Bitcoin transfer fees are dramatically lower than those of conventional systems, we are offering a 3% discount in all our prices when payed in Bitcoin. Funding for the development of the WIKISPEED C3 commuter car is currently being conducted through a crowdfunding campaing at Indiegogo.com. The costs the C3 development include crash test fees, fuel-efficiency testing, materials for prototyping and testing, expert reviews and fabrication, and additional tools. While the Indiegogo platform does not support Bitcoin contributions, these can be sent to the following Bitcoin address: 12JiynsQcfNLbeWnM7cdnYGo3axPXDcwCV Support WIKISPEED and make the future of automotive transportation happen right now. WIKISPEED, a Seattle, WA–based automotive-prototyping and manufacturing startup, is a registered automotive manufacturer able to sell complete vehicles in the United States and kit-built vehicles all over the world. WIKISPEED currently has collaborative operations in fifteen countries worldwide. Our Bitcoin address for donations is 12JiynsQcfNLbeWnM7cdnYGo3axPXDcwCV We are in the process of implementing an automated shopping cart solution. However, customers who wish to purchase from us using Bitcoin can contact us at info@WIKISPEED.com for detailed instructions. Press Photos: http://www.wikispeed.com/press, http://www.jigsawrenaissance.org/. Media Contact: WIKISPEED: info@WIKISPEED.com, 425-312-3996 Jigsaw Renaissance: Hello@jigsawrenaissance.org, 206-659-5260 http://wikispeed.com/wikispeed-team-blog/wikispeed-first-car-maker-in-the-world-to-accept-bitcoin-press-release
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Anthropologists David Graeber and Keith Hart
also, Max Keiser
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I just wanted to report that I have received my BTC after requesting to withdraw, in a timely manner and with no hassle at all. I will definitively invest again in the near future, and I feel lucky to have had this experience not only for the profit made but more importantly because meeting a trustable BTC investor like DeadTerra is priceless.
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My preference (at this time) is that you don't list GBF on GLBSE. I only see disadvantages to doing that.
Your time and energy are limited and valuable. Best conserve them for GBF and your research projects.
Dealing with a GBF GLBSE vehicle creates too many (both unavoidable and potential) administrative and legal issues.
I'd prefer you concentrate exclusively on maximizing our returns. Don't go too big, small is beautiful, keep it simple, etc.
Agree 100% Being a GBF investor myself, I would add: Minimise the risk! I don't care if we miss the mega-buck raise when (if) the market recovers. We should (i think) be 0% based in gut feeling, only good information. A positive comment I wanted to make also is that communication keeps trust up regardless of the bad week. Detailed updates and the logbook are very important. Keep that up. Moreover, perhaps if investors had an IRC channel or forum there would be more info, more discussion, more trust, better (maybe) ideas, and an emergency mechanism to prevent what happened last week (rapid events catching us unaware). By the way, this is the way the market should be expected to behave consistently: seemingly unconnected events triggering rapid and substantial rises and falls, among relatively long periods of relative calm. For this reason, there can't be long periods where the market goes unobserved, or we will all suffer again. TL;DR: 1- I Vote 'no' to GBF in GLBSE. Lets focus and we'll do better 2- Keep communication strong 3- Consider opening #GBF on IRC or a GBF investors thread (or something along those lines) 4- Minimise the risk now (my opinion), let's not gamble on the 'recovery' 5- Focus 6- Thanks |
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