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701  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin 20MB Fork on: February 02, 2015, 09:37:53 PM
Of course many ISPs block out outgoing 8333 by default . Why do you think we see all these threads where people complain that they are getting only 8 incoming connections on their bitcoin QT wallet? Why do we average less than 7k nodes worldwide at any given time? https://getaddr.bitnodes.io/

Whether it is involves configuring a cctv system or setting up a node from a consumer internet plan most ISPs I have seen require me to call them and specifically request I open up those outgoing ports. Commercial level service products usually aren't blocked by default from I have seen though.
I've noticed certain repeating characteristic in the writing of many members of this forum: they construct grammatically correct sentences but absolutely disregard the underlying semantics: incoming vs. outgoing, local vs. remote, source vs. destination, etc. Here in regards to TCP/IP ports, but I observed that in regards to pretty much any technical issue.

It reminds me of the http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Word_salad , but doesn't go as far in the unintelligibility. It is more akin to somebody just memorizing sentences and phrases without any sort of comprehension, something that actors have to do well.

What would be the real underlying psychological mechanism at work here? Conformism? Or maybe there is a physiological explanation, like some sort of milder http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Korsakoff%27s_syndrome ?

I'm really puzzled, because I've noticed this also in some very visible and high-level people, eg. core developers talking about the hardware design instead of the software design.
702  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 26, 2015, 09:03:48 PM
The difference between libertarians and collectivists is that libertarians are honest about that, that's all.
If they were really honest they wouldn't be mooching off of the collectivists. They would move to a free place and use their own rules-free Internet, drink their own unregulated water and send their children to their own schools free from oppression.

The honest truth is all the libertarian attempts at independent social organization invariably fail either:

1) because they are compulsive tightwads, skinflints, scrooges and grinches who rather die than contribute to a common good. Those are either eaten by the wild animals or easily subjugated by the organized crime gangs.

2) fall prey to the internal criminal abuse from the members who simply pretended to subscribe to their ideals but in reality ripped the rest off in a confidence game.

The only way the libertarians survive is similar to Roma/Gypsy people: a periphery of the stabler societies with more reliable means of production.
703  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 26, 2015, 08:46:06 PM
You are stereotyping and just wrong about that. Not giving something worthwhile to the discussion.
You want to think you are different and unique. But no, you are just a basket case of young high-earning programmer who just moved out of the parents home. Your basket stands right next to the basket with very young very-high-earning models who just moved out of their parents home.
But yes, I am not one of those that think my child should not pay for my retirement, and that parent's duty is to make his child stands by his own feets. It is not egocentrical, it is what independence means and the only way to live as a free individual.
Hell is paved with good intentions. Your sincere promise of taking care of your future children is worthless to the society. Beggars (both old folks and children) are considered eyesore by the society and the current solution is to forcibly tax everyone so they can be rounded out of the streets when old/infirm or forcibly schooled/housed when their freedom-loving parents won't care for them.

If you actually had a backing to your promise, like a ownership of land or other means of production, you wouldn't be spouting out the transparently naive individualism. Your parents would have successfully enculturated you into some respect to the neighbors, business partners and you would've clearly shown better understanding of why&how the society creates and maintains its rules.
Again, this has nothing to do with austrian economics.
The hard-core Austrian economics are inseparably mixed with the hard-core libertarianism: by the personalities of the leading thinkers and proponents, by their avoidance of mathematics, statistics and other tools of science. Also there's simply lot of correlation/overlap in the social groups where they gain their supporters. You can't escape that.
704  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 26, 2015, 08:24:52 PM
Do you feel you have more right to pass judgement? You're doing an awful lot of it in this thread, this isn't a case of life and death but that's just a point at the extreme of the same scale.
Sure. One of my duties is being a liaison with employees (programming & technical support) who have freedom to work out of home, if they so desire and if we have a slow season. So I'm wrong both ways:

1) I'm too nosy when I'm explicitly admonishing them to abstain from using unregulated substances (that they have bought in a person-to-person transactions that the government should have no business regulating) in their own free time. I'm also too nosy when I admonish those peeps to be less egocentric and have a real support network of family and friends (not net-friends).

2) I'm not nosy enough when they die alone and stink up the neighborhood as a result of inhaling those substances (or playing with the guns they purchased with their own money). I'm not nosy enough even if I recognized that they have no real social contact besides coworkers and should have been visiting them at home.

Of the two accusations above I choose being accused of (1), because it gives me some opportunity to warn people in advance, not just react quicker to a problematic situation.
705  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 26, 2015, 03:53:45 AM
Did I talked about libertarianism in this thread ?
What I said is that from Austrian perspective, two persons making a deal knows better than the bureaucrat if it is worth it. If you don't believe you reach Keynes conclusions, and if you believe it, you will reach Mises' one.
I am talking about business concerning two people which don't plane to steal another.

We are talking about economics in this thread, not libertarians.
Libertarian extends this principle beyond business, and this is not the right thread if you want to discuss about it.
But yes, Rothbard have responses about how to deal with crimes in libertarian society. Just it is not the right thread to talk about it.

So stop trolling and comes up with some interesting arguments if you think I mis defined Keynesians or Austrian philosophy. But from what I see in your response, I'd say that I defined very well.
No Nicholas, you didn't talk explicitly about libertarians.

You've just spoken about personal economic decisions like them, especially the ones who are wife-less, child-less & land-less. You are so precariously naive that I don't consider you (plural you, the people in the peculiar social situation like you personally) a worthwhile discussion partner about long-term economic decision making. Because I've seen too many single male programmers/computer technicians with the similar mindset. Either time&life will cure them out of their egotism/egocentrism or they die completely alone and their cadaver is picked up by the municipal services and absolutely nobody shows interest where and when will be the funeral. The employer is finally alerted to their death when those services are trying to collect on the death benefit of the health&life insurance.

I don't remember the exact "death alone" statistics from my employer's human resources department, but the programming department was on top, then technical support, then big gap and then inside sales.

Anyway, since Rothbard was now mentioned twice I'm going to quote a fragment from Chapter 13 "Punishment & Proportionality" from his "Ethics of Liberty".

Quote
A problem might arise in the case of murder - since a victim's heirs might prove less than diligent in pursuing the murderer, or be unduly inclined to let the murderer buy his way out of punishment. This problem could be taken care of simply by people stating in their wills that what punishment they should like to inflict on their possible murderers. <I snip the rest, but anyone who was born without the will attached should read that chapter>

This may read like ad hominem towards Nicholas, but it really isn't against him, but the class of people he represents in his thinking and writing.
706  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 25, 2015, 07:55:40 PM
Nobody could foresee the internet in 1930.  The economic effects of the internet were hence unpredictable.  I remember a prediction that the UK would have enough with 4 computers in the sixties :-)
I kinda like playing bullshit bingo. So lets count who has a computer now:

1) Amazon has EC2 computer
2) Microsoft has Azure computer
3) Google has a BigTable computer
4) Apple too has some computer
5) Rackspace has some generic "cloud" computer

Everyone else has either a tablet or a smartphone.

So the prediction is true, the world has about 5 computers and lots of dumb terminals. Win for economic modeling from the sixties!
707  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 25, 2015, 06:58:44 PM
By the definition of a model !  A model is a mathematical transformation of the input to the output.  Same input -> same output.
OK, this is bullshit. You must have slept through some lecture at your school. This is true only if your state vector is zero.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State-space_representation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Control_theory

It is hard to argue with the rest of your http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cosmik_Debris if we aren't using the usual mathematical terminology anymore.

Edit: Actually I take back "hard to argue". I should've written "not worth to argue". I re-read you previous reply where you mentioned http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kalman_filter . In any sensible control theory curriculum they discuss things like http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luenberger_observer way earlier, when still explaining LTI (linear, time-invariant) systems.

So the conclusion is that you either:

A) come here to intentionally confuse (a.k.a. troll),
B) studied control theory from the special curriculum for Austrians where they only consider memory-less systems (a.k.a. undereducated or retard).

In any way, not worth further discussion.
708  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 25, 2015, 06:27:28 PM
Do you have any suggestions for Android?
Sorry, I'm long out this market segment. I handed the project I was involved to the production people long time ago. I'd used commercial/for-pay software and hardware that I don't think is relevant anymore.

Two suggestions:

1) look not for "QR code reader" but for "image processing library/toolbox/toolkit".
2) if you use an open-source (or paid for closed-source) then getting the required FEC/payload ratio and S/N ratio is a quite simple modification. Few lines of code at the maximum. In my experience the difficult part is to understand the underlying concepts of forward-error-correction and channel noise and how they are used properly or misused (nefariously or due to lack of understanding).
709  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 25, 2015, 06:15:27 PM
If all these algorithms are so good why don't we have stable economies?
I'm just going to guess that you are completely unfamiliar with modeling of chaotic systems.

Here's the simplest to understand example that I know:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logistic_map
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bifurcation_diagram

"These algorithms" give ranges of answers, not single answers. It is up to economic decision maker to choose which portion of the range they are aiming at and which portion they want to avoid.
710  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 25, 2015, 05:59:19 PM
Politicians are forever talking about statistics and the economy so virtually any interview with any politician where they mention anything about the economy should suffice as an example (and they often put forward economic "excuses" as to why climate change is something we can't afford to do anything about now).

But let's get to what riles me most - here is a well known publicly made statement from the current Australian PM (it was made before he was PM but he was leader of the opposition at that point in time).

"Climate change is crap." (Tony Abbot)

It is not surprising that even America (which has dragged its feet on doing anything much to address the issue of climate change) is now finding Australia's complete lack of political will and funding to be of concern (which has been recently been brought up).

Can you distinguish http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Economics from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_economy ?

Are you really taking your knowledge of economy, statistics and other sciences from the TV and political speeches?

Are you pretending to be member of the uneducated underclass as a way of jump-starting the discussion?

Or do you really behave like the uneducated masses in your real life? I'm really confused. Are you a self-taught programmer or did you study computer science in some formal educational institution?
711  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 25, 2015, 05:45:20 PM
I believe in Austrian economic, because I believe that the best people that know what the exchange is worth are the two parties themselves. Not a third one located several miles away without any stake in the game.
Spoken like true wife-less, child-less & land-less libertarian. In the real society your personal choices affect the life of your current family, your future family and your neighbors life and land values. Therefore the society has a stake in influencing your decisions.

The general problem with Homo Sapiens is that it is most fertile when young and stupid (or at least when not that smart). Even the ultra-assholey people who would have no problem with killing dumb libertarians (or letting libertarians kill themselves as a result of their stupidity and short-term thinking) will have problem killing children of the libertarians. So the society has a stake in forcing libertarians to send children to school instead of sending them to steal or to beg.

Libertarians are like Roma/Gypsy people in the sense that they can exist as a semi-stable community only at the periphery of the regular society. And the regular society has a stake in periodically culling the worst excesses in those roaming bands.

Anyway, read the "Ethics of Liberty" and please point me to the libertarian way of preventing infanticide or other within-the-family crime.
712  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 25, 2015, 05:24:51 PM
In other words, the economic dynamics is not time-invariant, because there is this learning function.  And the states also have learning functions.  if the first time they react to a crisis in a specific way, and that doesn't bring in the hoped-for results (on electoral or economic side), next time that state (which is part of the economic dynamics) will do something else.
Why you omitted time-variant models from the consideration?

So: same situation, different response.  By definition, that cannot be modeled.  Because a mathematical model gives you the same response to the same input.
By whose definition?

Scientific literature is full of hidden-state/unobservable-state and reflective models, "observers" as an algorithmic way of estimating the not-directly-observable state, etc.

I don't know if you are trying to omit most of 20-th century research as a dialectic technique or are you simply unfamiliar with the required math and therefore consider it all false/impossible?
 
Human action, which includes learning, makes that economy is *in principle* not following a mathematical model.  Because it is not time invariant.
And because people learn.
Sounds more like a religious credo than a science. And that is the problem with most Austrian economic literature: they very much resemble theological tracts.

Edit: But in comparison to other religions the Austrian economics is a sort of religion without ethics, (programmatically so, because of the free-choice axiom). This is the reason why many (if not most) consider them morally bankrupt from the start.

713  Economy / Economics / Re: Why does anyone pay attention to people that study "economics"? on: January 24, 2015, 01:38:56 AM
No it won't. Even if you did collect data then use any statistical model, it is useless. The economy is based on subjective behaviour of the consumers and consumers are fickle, changing their mind, dithering whether to buy, die......so any data becomes out of date within 5 seconds or less.
Ha ha, we went through this argument (about not begin able to step into the same river twice) about 2000 years ago. I actually had to consult the Wikipedia, it was 2500 years ago. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heraclitus

Both philosophy and science made significant progress since then.

I'll now repeat what I've said before: an admiration for the founders and faculty of my Alma Mater who forced on us 2 semesters of general philosophy and 1 semester of philosophy of science. It seemed so useless then, when I was young. Now that I'm older I can just laugh out at the naives getting snared into the bazaar sophistry. This type of argumentation must have been ancient Greek bazaar equivalent of the three-card-monte of the modern swap-meet.

Next time I'm going to visit my Alma Mater I'll propose adding one more semester of "philosophizing for profit (with fun optional)". This should teach the future graduates how to profitably exploit the knowledge that e.g. quantum mechanics is both demonstrably false and fruitful area of scientific research. With Bitcoin as a bait it will be as easy as shooting fish in a barrel.
714  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Bitcoin JSON RPC - Account has bigger balance than entire wallet? on: January 23, 2015, 06:24:45 PM
The account system within Bitcoin Core is conceptually broken and will be depreciated. Do not use it.

To directly answer your question: you probably have some other "accounts" with negative balances that altogether sum to zero.
715  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need help with errors on: January 20, 2015, 11:14:15 PM
I've got no memory issues on host, and I created a new VM and it still had the problem.  The issue is with the files somehow.  How can I keep most of the blocks but have Bitcoin Core just download the last few again without reindexing or redownloading the entire blockchain?  What files should I delete/change?
There is no "issue with the files somehow". There is an issue with your hardware or software. In my limited experience the most common problem with corrupted files on Windows, even with "fresh installs", is caused by the buggy antivirus or security packages. Edit: The second most common is that people who claim "fresh installs" actually don't do a fresh install but some sort of "OEM restore" that riddles the Windows with crapware, which although not malicious is frequently ultra buggy. The true "fresh install" is from non-writable original Microsoft disk or from a writable disk/image with SHA1 verified with MSDN/Technet/other official Microsoft channel source, not through an OEM. End of edit.

Bitcoin lets you be your own bank. Then just be your own bank and put your wallet on a backup computer (you do have a backup computer, right?). You'll quickly learn that you have problem with your primary computer.
716  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 20, 2015, 10:30:32 PM
I wouldn't say deterministic as the library may choose a mask. Masks are are used to get a uniform distribution of black and white and to avoid large areas with only one color. I don't think there is a norm for choosing a mask or for the amount of effort to get the best result.
I think the "mask" you are talking about is a 2-dimensional implementation of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decorrelation or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whitening_transformation . It only needs to be pseudo-random http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scrambler , not an actual non-deterministic noise source.
717  Bitcoin / Hardware wallets / Re: [ESHOP launched] Trezor: Bitcoin hardware wallet on: January 20, 2015, 09:57:39 PM
urm. Maybe I'm misunderstanding something, but shouldn't the qrcodes match:
QR codes are deterministic, but contain error-correction information in addition to the encoded payload. There are a lot of libraries that intentionally do a sloppy work in letting you specify the ratio of payload bits to forward-error-correction bits to be user-friendly (or loser-friendly). Get a good library and you'll get 100% reproducibility.

Moreover get a good QR reader that not only displays the payload bits but the signal/noise ratio for the decoded result.

Edit: OK, I need to explain the "loser-friendly" to avoid making it sound like a vain vapid insult.

One can intentionally produce "bad" QR code images in the sense that they aren't perfect representation of the correct encoded bitstream. Because of the redundancy in encoding they will still read correctly with a normal decoder (with S/N ratio of say 20dB). The "bad"-ness is a side channel that can still be read with a modified decoder that not only reads the "main" payload but also the "side" payload (with a lower S/N margin of say 3dB).

Tricks like that have been used in e.g. theft tracing or as a secret "cookie" in marketing campaigns intended to be read by some closed-source free app. So if your good QR reader some QR code with very large noise margin or surprisingly large ratio of FEC bits you may have a reason to believe that the QR code contains a side channel.

Edit2: Obviously with cryptographic application modified QR codes with side-channels can be used to leak the private key information, but I haven't heard of that happening yet.
718  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Technical Support / Re: Need help with errors on: January 20, 2015, 03:10:25 AM
Either hardware problem in the VM host or corruption in the VM guest.

Good stress test for the host hardware: http://www.mersenne.org/download/ . If the host passes the test reinstall fresh guest VM from the clean Windows media.

No point in futzing with Bitcoin, just make sure to have a good wallet backup.

Edit: PS: Move this thread to the "Technical Support" forum. "Move" is available to you on the bottom left of the page.
719  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block chain size/storage and slow downloads for new users on: January 18, 2015, 11:22:09 PM
Have you ever tried to talk to a satellite network provider for consumer class connectivity and got farther than some Indian...
Yes, I did. I even got invited to Hughes' headquarters in Inglewood to discuss various technical options (not related to Bitcoin).

I think you understand that their consumer market are the proverbial "hicks" and it requires the approach appropriate to hicks. From your avoidance of the 3 technical questions I asked I'm going to assume that you actually don't have the required technical background for a productive discussion with their engineering and NOC staff.

At least T1 is fully symmetric, so you'll have no problems then.
 

So, you told your Indian that you know your connection is asymetric and she was so impressed she turned you over to the NOC where you impressed the engineers so much that they hired you as a consulting staff engineer to get better service for the us hicks who have needs better served with symmetric data channels?  Wow.  You da man!

The lady told me that I was not supposed to know about port 80 on the defaultrouter.

You are perfectly correct that I do not know the various (theoretically) possible protocols available various layers on the satellite link.  I've not studied it very hard either because I'm not staying up nights waiting for any of them to be options for me.  Maybe you can work your magic there at headquarters for me?  But be quick because I am greatly looking forward to plain old T1 and have got the hardware upon which to build my router on the bench.
Dude, you are just a confirmation that Hughes does have a correct policy of treating all consumer-level users as either hicks or repeated TOS violators who burned all possible terrestrial ISP options in their location.

Anyway, for the people interested in the satellite ISPs the intelligent user plan is two point:

1) learn a bit about the specifics of the satellite technology so you don't sound like a vengeful hick with a shotgun,
2) escalate through the installer/reseller support channel.

Edit: I don't want to play thread bump games with tvbcof, so I'm going to edit this message.

I've got some shotguns though (...and not the old modem ones for anyone who remember's that technology.)
Bingo!

I don't want to drag this thread further away off-topic, so a few more observations of importance to those who have to use the wireless ISP:

3) large percentage of customers for those ISPs are high credit risk people. Many non-mobile wireless ISPs therefore sell and install rather strange configurations where all the expensive equipment is outdoors (easier to repossess after payment default) and only an elaborate but cheap power supply is indoor.
4) the same ISPs have seemingly strange fixation on selling "family" plans. It is their way to filter out dangerous loners with no wife/children. The "militarized loners" market segments are separately served through other outlets like military surplus stores.
5) even with very minimal technical skills you should be able to rent and configure yourself a remote server that you can locate in an well-connected area and minimize the bandwidth requirements for "the last miles to the cabin in the woods."
720  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Block chain size/storage and slow downloads for new users on: January 18, 2015, 10:45:53 PM
Have you ever tried to talk to a satellite network provider for consumer class connectivity and got farther than some Indian...
Yes, I did. I even got invited to Hughes' headquarters in Inglewood to discuss various technical options (not related to Bitcoin).

I think you understand that their consumer market are the proverbial "hicks" and it requires the approach appropriate to hicks. From your avoidance of the 3 technical questions I asked I'm going to assume that you actually don't have the required technical background for a productive discussion with their engineering and NOC staff.

At least T1 is fully symmetric, so you'll have no problems then.
 
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