Bitcoin sure is great. I feel like it could explode upward any moment now.

If you want to bet on bitpay, you could buy shares of D.BPAY on mpex, or if you want to bet against it you could grab some shares of the upcoming F.DERP which will be available soon.

This is a very informative post about Havelock listed (and delisted) securities. Could you make a similar post about the shares and funds listed on MPEx?

Why wouldn't an organization be allowed to have ads on their website? Just because they are non-profit does not mean they cannot charge money for things! Non-profit organizations need to pay for things, so they have to get money somehow.

How dumb are you? Why do you want other people to do all the work for you? Do you have other people chew your food for you too?

Click on "Bitcoin Forum" or "Home" at the top of the page. There is a list of boards. Under "Economics" is "Child boards: Speculation". There are at least 4 threads in the first page on the topic you are looking for.

Please use the "quote" feature when quoting blocks of text.

You should care what the price is. If it is really low then you should buy some more shares, if it is really high then it makes sense to sell some.

Why did you put this thread in "Securities"? You should move it to "Meta".

Look over in "Speculation", there are a couple threads there about the feds' auction.

I use my bitcoins as savings. I buy bitcoins, and I am holding them until I need to buy something.

Bitcoin doesn't care, bitcoin will go on without them. They are only hurting themself by stepping out of the world economy.

People will still use bitcoins, the more governments fight against bitcoin the more irrelevant they become.

I agree.

Mircea Popescue seems to like porn, if your business is sound and you know what you are doing, then listing there would be a good way to get funding.

For anybody from #bitcoin-assets, I am the new PeterL forum account.

Looks like a scam to me.

Do they have any PR on this forum?

There are such a vast number of bitcoins being auctioned in one go, the auction price could be more or less than the current market rate, but whatever price they go for, the market exchange rate will immediately go to that level. It will be interesting to see how this high-profile test of bitcoin's market price will turn out.

There are a bunch of FIFA related bets open on BitBet.us , put money on your favorite team and you could win some nice bitcoins!

Wall St moving in means people with deep pockets acquiring bitcoins. The general trend will be a large increase in the price if this happens. How will it happen? Some people will try to invest in "bitcoin companies" like bitpay. Some people will buy bitcoin on the street or directly from miners. Some Wall Streeters will try to invest in things like the Winklevoss bitcoin fund. It will start gradually, and then the price will jump by an order of magnitude or two like it has in the past, very suddenly. There will be a huge bubble as people try to pile in before they miss the boat, huge fortunes will be made and lost within a matter of weeks. The power will be held by those with actual bitcoins, and the people in Wall Street will use any means they can think of to get a piece of that pie.

This looks interesting. Are there many people using the server? I will try it out tonight.

You should not feel bad about making money off bitcoins. You are investing into the future of money, and so you deserve to earn something for taking that risk.

Think of bitcoins not so much as a way to make money as a way to save money. You investing money into bitcoin allows other people who need money now to take money out as they sell the bitcoins to you. Later, when you need the money for something, there will be other people who want to put money in and they will trade for your bitcoins.

There is a difference between you taking out a mortgage backed by your house and a business getting a loan. But I see your point, if the houses are owned free and clear, then the bank should be willing to issue debt with the house as collateral.

Branny, when you talk to the bank, do you just talk to the first person they point you at or do you insist on talking to a loan officer who has authority to actually make their own decisions?

It is a relic of the old money system. They just do not expect something like rentalstarter to appear.

Perhaps you could talk to the guys in #bitcoin-assets to see if there would be interest in funding a loan for an opportunity like this?

I like bitbet.us , it is not exactly a casino, but it is an interesting place to make bets. You can even make money by suggesting interesting bets.