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401  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 10:15:30 AM
lol?
402  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 10:01:26 AM
If I remember the bet correctly BFL was supposed to ship their "ASICs" on or before April 1st.

Shipping doesn't consist of walking over to the other side of the building you are in to give Luke-Jr his free ASIC. lol

And that was one unit if I recall.

The context of the bet was that BFL would be shipping "en masse" which is what Josh kept claiming would happen in the never ending Two Weeks (TM) statements he kept giving.
No, that's not what the bet said.
403  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 08:31:27 AM
What I want to know is what happened at BFL between 3/31/13 and 6/30/13.  It took over 3 months for BFL to go from "shipping" Luke's Single to shipping my Single, and my Single was one of the first 100 ordered.
Probably not the whole picture, but note that Little Single was the original design (square case that was later used for the 5Gh unit) and used 8 chips (IIRC) to run the 30 Gh/s.
The final 30Gh unit ended up something like 2x the size using only 4 chips (again IIRC), and uses less electrical power.
It probably has a longer lifetime too (the original one already died and got RMA'd a long time ago).

During that 3 month delay I lost the potential return of my 209BTC outlay.
While it probably doesn't help (we all still lost a lot on this downtime), we can't actually know the total loss value.
Had BFL actually delivered on time, the difficulty would have skyrocketted even before the Avalons shipped...

I want to know if BFL was actively mining at extended length with first Singles.  Ultimately I was only able to mine a little over 17BTC with something I spent 209BTC.  There's not making positive ROI and then there's having a company steal your money outright by using your hardware while blatantly telling lies "oh we can't get it to work".  Angry
I don't think they were, but I don't have any evidence either.

So you're not interested in the facts, just trolling.
Thanks for clarifying that; I'll stop wasting my time answering you.
I am interested in facts. Facts which you are evading to tell and you put me to search for them.
It's either you or me searching; I already know the conclusion, so I don't care to take the hours looking through the thread (stupid bitcointalk won't let me download all the posts in it for some reason).
If you say that the bet should have been a Win for BFL then you must know the terms for the bet. Putting me to search for them is a waste of time. If you don't know the terms for the bet then you just talked without nothing to back it up, but I am sure it's not your case.
I knew the terms over a year ago when it was an active topic.
I recall the conclusion (that it should have been a BFL Win), but not the details.
404  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.2.0: modular ASIC+FPGA, GBT+Strtm, RPC, Mac/Lnx/W64, RockMiner R-BOX on: June 23, 2014, 08:21:49 AM
and the shutdown randomly ( 4 - 10 hours uptime ) i get a sick ?
That's what I mean by "hang".
405  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 08:21:11 AM
I can't find the original terms of the bet, but please enlighten me why it should have been a Win for BFL.
I'm sure it's somewhere in this forum thread.

Thank you for being evasive. So you state that the bet should be a Win for BFL, but you don't want to back up the statement with anything. I won't bother searching for it (maybe k9quaint will do it), but anyone can create a shipping label anytime and can use it at a later time (like in your case) so that can't be your reason, as for actually having the unit that is off too since you claimed to have it in BFL's warehouse.

So that's it everyone. Luke-Jr thinks that the bet should be a Win for BFL because they created a shipping label and they plugged his unit from their warehouse! This is his definition of having the unit.
So you're not interested in the facts, just trolling.
Thanks for clarifying that; I'll stop wasting my time answering you.

well actually ..that is as close to actually having a unit 'on time' more or less then any I've heard....they say it is your unit and plug it in at BFL ...(take it and run with it) the other 99% did not even get that much!
Actually, unfortunately not. Even for that unit, I think I waited longer than the average wait time. Sad
406  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.2.0: modular ASIC+FPGA, GBT+Strtm, RPC, Mac/Lnx/W64, RockMiner R-BOX on: June 23, 2014, 08:11:15 AM
i testet the latest version from BFG, i get alot of errors ( with RBOX Miner ) and shut down randomly ( 5 - 10 hours uptime )

u can see now, iam running only 22 minutes, and i get alot off errors

i tested the latest version from cgminer 4.1, no problems uptime 48+ hours
Those errors are "normal" with current R-Boxen.
cgminer just doesn't report them.
The hangs are fixed in git (to-be 4.3).
407  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 07:58:31 AM
So since the unit wasn't actually delivered to you then it's fair to say that the bet should have ended as a Lose for BFL and the one that made the Draw decision was wrong.
By the terms of the bet, it actually should have been a Win for the BFL side.
I can't find the original terms of the bet, but please enlighten me why it should have been a Win for BFL.
I'm sure it's somewhere in this forum thread.

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Quote from: Miner99er on April 01, 2013, 08:21:13 AM
For this bet to be won tho, there needs to be a shipping label and/or tracking number.

Luke's reply: There is, but I'd prefer not to give the trolls my personal info.
There was no shipping label at the time of the post if the unit was in BFL's warehouse. Lie again. Or there was a shipping label ready sitting right next to the unit in the warehouse.
The latter (where the label physically was, I don't know - but I was given a tracking number).
No shipping occurred before or on 1st April.
I never claimed it did.
So you claim that you received a shipping label, but the unit was hashing in BFL's warehouse? When exactly did you received your shipping label and when did your unit stopped hashing so that it could be sent to you?
I received the tracking number in the same conversation as (eventually) setting up remote access to my miner.
I don't recall when it was finally shipped exactly - months later due to further delays of the minirigs.

P.S. If someone who I know I can trust with my privacy wants to waste their time confirming it exists as stated, I wouldn't mind sharing it with them. I just confirmed FedEx still has record of it (including at least origin, date, and destination).
408  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 07:39:42 AM
So since the unit wasn't actually delivered to you then it's fair to say that the bet should have ended as a Lose for BFL and the one that made the Draw decision was wrong.
By the terms of the bet, it actually should have been a Win for the BFL side.

Also your statement from here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163261.msg1713137#msg1713137 is just a lie because you didn't had the unit at the time of the post. BFL had your unit, not you.
Um, no. You're trying to be pedantic, but failing.
Learn English: http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/have

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Quote from: Miner99er on April 01, 2013, 08:21:13 AM
For this bet to be won tho, there needs to be a shipping label and/or tracking number.

Luke's reply: There is, but I'd prefer not to give the trolls my personal info.
There was no shipping label at the time of the post if the unit was in BFL's warehouse. Lie again. Or there was a shipping label ready sitting right next to the unit in the warehouse.
The latter (where the label physically was, I don't know - but I was given a tracking number).
No shipping occurred before or on 1st April.
I never claimed it did.
409  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 07:13:20 AM
You claimed you had your ASIC device. You claimed you had a shipping label and tracking number for the device
Both of which were true.
Of course both are true, but tell us how close were you to the actual miner at the time of the post. Have you actually touched it or it was at BFL warehouse at the time of the post?
I may have touched it a few weeks earlier when I was there in person, but it was being hosted by BFL until the rest of my order was ready.
Where they had it physically located (their warehouse, office, or whatever) I don't know/care.

BFL stood to gain 1000 BTC (now worth roughly $600,000) if they could claim the device had shipped by April 1st.
I don't know anything about that.
But to use present-day valuation for something that occurred in the past is ridiculous.
You didn't know anything about the bet, but you posted right before the deadline? Please allow me to NOT believe that.
I don't know anything about BFL having a stake in the bet, even to date (it's long enough ago that it's possible someone told me and I forgot).
I don't think I'd seen the bet until after my post, either.
I posted when BFL turned over my miner.
Furthermore, nobody won the bet. It was called a draw.
So even if BFL had made bets on their own delivery, they lost what their winnings would have been, they didn't gain.

And 1000BTC is 1000BTC no matter the exchange rate.
Yes, but 1000 BTC is not $600,000 no matter the exchange rate.
Pretending it had today's value is what is ridiculous.
410  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 06:42:08 AM
You claimed you had your ASIC device. You claimed you had a shipping label and tracking number for the device
Both of which were true.
but declined to show either of them.
I showed the device. I didn't show the tracking number for reasons I stated.

Somehow you manage to reconcile those two statements with BFL not shipping the device (thus no tracking number or label) and you not having the device (because it was still at BFL).
Don't forget the context of the tracking number/label bit. I was responding to pedantry with pedantry.

BFL was paying you at the time to develop the mining software.
Are you claiming I said that too, or are you just stating random rumours from people who wouldn't know as if they are truth?

BFL stood to gain 1000 BTC (now worth roughly $600,000) if they could claim the device had shipped by April 1st.
I don't know anything about that.
But to use present-day valuation for something that occurred in the past is ridiculous.

That is why you have no credibility on the subject of BFL. It has already been demonstrated that you are willing to deceive if the stakes are high enough.
What stakes? I gained absolutely nothing from your so-called "deception" (where I stated only the truth).

Edit: Also, I'm curious what stakes you think there are in this thread? I don't see any stakes for anyone...
411  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 05:12:49 AM
Sorry Luke.You burned your credibility when you claimed BFL shipped you product oh so long ago, when in fact it was sitting at BFL labs the whole time.
Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163261.msg1713137#msg1713137 <--- Thread about Luke claiming to "have his first ASIC"
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163261.msg1713163#msg1713163 <--- Screenshot of Luke posting a picture demonstrating he has his ASIC
https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Ffarm9.staticflickr.com%2F8404%2F8608273267_04e5e7f50f_z.jpg&t=541&c=9DDsr5MM9BOv7Q <-- picture of the workbench at BFL the shows a disturbing similarity to the picture Luke showed

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163261.msg1715316#msg1715316
Quote from: Miner99er on April 01, 2013, 08:21:13 AM
For this bet to be won tho, there needs to be a shipping label and/or tracking number.

Luke's reply: There is, but I'd prefer not to give the trolls my personal info.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=163261.msg1719599#msg1719599  <-- Luke finally admitting that "BFL has it at their office now only at my own request that they keep it there for the time being." The unit was not shipped to him.

For the record, I am not putting words in your mouth. I am putting them in a textarea element in an HTML page in a browser.  Wink
Great, at least this time you quoted what I actually said.
You will note that at no point did I say BFL had actually shipped it (at the time).
412  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 04:41:46 AM
Sorry Luke.You burned your credibility when you claimed BFL shipped you product oh so long ago, when in fact it was sitting at BFL labs the whole time.
Don't put words in my mouth, thanks.
413  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 04:15:38 AM
I didn't know Luke was on this forum. I do remember what the crew used to refer to him as and pretty sure Bruce can confirm. When he wasn't around they called him Chupacabra.
I can't help it! Those goats just look so delicious! Mmm!

I'm not trying to be mean all just stating facts of what I know from working at the plant.
Nah, sounds much more likely that your goal is neither.
You're not trying to be mean.
But you're also not stating facts.

What you're really trying to do is stir up fights.
I'm not falling for it.
414  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ROCKMINER ASIC miner official thread on: June 23, 2014, 03:59:59 AM
Luke, I switched over to CGMiner, but one thing I think is clear, I don't think the frequency option (--set rockminer:clock=290) is working properly with BFGminer (4.2.x). When I configure frequency=290 with CGMiner, I get over 35Gh. With BFG, the best I ever got was in the 32's regardless of the frequency number.
Seems to work fine for me. Try --set rockminer:clock=200 for example, it's clearly slower.
Be sure you're comparing the pool-side hashrate, since cgminer lies about it...
415  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: I no longer work for Butterfly Labs (BFL) on: June 23, 2014, 03:31:03 AM
FWIW, while I don't have much insider knowledge in BFL day-to-day operations, I do know that as of right now, Nimbus doesn't have software working for any 28nm BFL hardware.
Only just recently, did we finish getting BFGMiner to work properly with the Monarch (despite the announcement for its support in 4.0, there were some bugs that came up as BFL tweaked the firmware to get to the full hashrate).
Nimbus currently relies on a proprietary fork of cgminer, so they can't even deploy that right now.
And while it's possible they could use software I'm not aware of, I was recently asked (with pay) to help adjust Nimbus's operation so it could handle the Monarch - which wouldn't make sense if they already had something working.
So, at least that part of this guy's story sounds like it's completely bogus (which makes me question the whole thing, even if I can't personally refute it).

Trolls who are going to FUD against my credibility, don't bother: I'm not putting this up here for you, but for the honest people who might otherwise not know better.
416  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: BFGMiner 4.2.0: modular ASIC+FPGA, GBT+Strtm, RPC, Mac/Lnx/W64, RockMiner R-BOX on: June 23, 2014, 02:40:55 AM
Quick FYI: On Linux, I strongly advise NOT trying to use -S bitforce:all
I just noticed this attempts to open and talk to every single PCI device.
That could be very bad...
Will fix in next release.
417  Bitcoin / Pools / Re: [6600Th] Eligius: 0% Fee BTC, 105% PPS NMC, No registration, CPPSRB (New Thread) on: June 23, 2014, 02:32:08 AM
Is the pool having issues or is it just on my end?  I have some miners saying the pool is alive and some miners saying it's dead.

Had a couple disconnect for a bit, but not all and back to normal now.

Me too.  As of about four hours ago I see that two of my miners seem to have rebooted  themselves.  I say reboot because they both have Uptime of a little over three hours.

WhizKid or Luke?  any thoughts??
If a pool could reboot your miners, there is something wrong with the miner...
418  Other / Bitcoin Wiki / Re: Enable user javascript? on: June 22, 2014, 09:09:46 AM
But yea, we're digressing; still curious if user javascript could be made an option? Thanks!
I think all major browsers support client-side user javascript these days.
Any reason that wouldn't work for you?
419  Other / Bitcoin Wiki / Re: CryptoPayment not showing bitcoin address on: June 22, 2014, 05:56:37 AM
This should be fixed now (the hard drive was full).
Can you guys confirm it is now working for you?
420  Bitcoin / Hardware / Re: ROCKMINER ASIC miner official thread on: June 21, 2014, 02:21:03 AM
Rockxie - has anyone on the team looked at bluetooth integration for future designs?  Would save the pain of crossing 10's of wires (idk, maybe 100's for some of the more enthusiastic out there) and could be a value-add to the design.
Personally, I think it'd be pretty cool if someone did a 6lowpan miner Smiley
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