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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Thoughts on DFINITY: internet computer protocol (ICP) ? ? on: September 27, 2021, 04:41:30 AM
It is a dynamic cloud platform built with the vision of replacing the Internet.
I see this project is very hot recently due to the value of ICP token airdropped to participants, and the project has been listed by the world's largest exchanges (Binance, Coinbase Pro, Okex, huobi Global) in the same day.

It used to be a good project, one with enormous potential. But Dfinity actually had no intention to deliver what was promised to the community thereby easily turning its listing into a rug pull. As the part of the community they've left behind, we've divorced ourselves from Dfinity while still believing in the value of ICP.

We created a new community called ICP Reboot; a community-driven project founded by people who were once part of the Dfinity community from inception and they are now part of an amalgamation of volunteers working for ICPR. In comparison to Dfinity, ICPR will first be represented as an ERC-20 token in an open and honest format. ICPR will run on a truly democratic decentralized governance system in which members decide how to fork and improve upon this protocol while retaining flexibility on the direction of the network.

Instead of what happened with ICP, where the Dfinity team controlled over 50% of token supply, ICPR intends to have a fair and fully decentralized distribution of its tokens. One of the core principles is to achieve justice by reallocating tokens that the foundation held and unlocking tokens that the actual owners were denied access to.

With this, ICP may still have better, transparent days. Join us as we fight for a truly decentralized ICP https://icpr.io/
2  Local / Altcoins (Pilipinas) / Re: ICP for long term on: September 26, 2021, 04:02:54 AM
Though nagawa nya makapasok agad sa top position, i don’t see any guarantee na magiging ok ang future nya kase maraming project na ren ang biglaan sumulpot sa itaas pero ngayon very stagnant na and medyo wala nang progress. Try to look for more updates with ICP and wait for more chart details, pag long term holding kase I usually look fundamentally and price trend.
Para sa akin masyadong pang maaga para masabing potential and stable coin and ICP, pero hindi natin pwedeng alisin ang posibilidad na ito nga ay potential in the future. Lalo na nitong mga araw na nakalipas na kung saan ay nag dip ang market pero ang ICP ay mabilis na naka recover. Kailangan pa natin ng information at knowledge tungkol sa ICP.


It really is a great concept; unrealized in many ways. But we, in the ICP Reboot community, are well aware of #Dfinity's mishandling. That's why we created #ICPR to bring justice to the ICP community and #ICP itself.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain 3.0, Next gen crypto talk on: September 25, 2021, 09:36:50 AM
I think i realised the one of the biggest benefits ICP has over all Blockchains...
The way ICP Blockchain is designed, it is the cheapest smart contracts platform of all.

Cost of 1GB of smart contract data...

Internet Computer:
New internet-scale blockchain
$5/GB/year

This is huge, imagine a DEX being built on ICP...even 1000s of DEXs all running at the same time..
Anything that requires millions, billions, trillions of smart contract txs..will prob use ICP due to its smart contract cost design system.

Fast forward to today, these all went unrealized and taken for granted. The project had enormous potential; one that Dfinity failed to realize hence, easily turning ICP's Coinbase listing into a rug pull, dumping the whole community behind.

We are a community-driven project founded by people who were once part of the Dfinity community from inception and they are now part of an amalgamation of volunteers working for ICPR.In comparison to Dfinity, ICPR will first be represented as an ERC-20 token in an open and honest format. ICPR will run on a truly democratic decentralized governance system in which members decide how to fork and improve upon this protocol while retaining flexibility on the direction of the network.

Instead of what happened with ICP, where the Dfinity team controlled over 50% of token supply, ICPR intends to have a fair and fully decentralized distribution of its tokens. One of the core principles is to achieve justice by reallocating tokens that the foundation held and unlocking tokens that the actual owners were denied access to.

With this, ICP may still have better, transparent days. Join us as we fight for a truly decentralized ICP https://icpr.io/
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ICP (Internet Computer) on: September 24, 2021, 06:17:18 AM
I also really like this project, and honestly the current price is also a price that I don't think is too high, for me the project will have the ability to bring more things in the future, so the issue of price will be changed soon.

The price was too high when they got listed. The market cap at that time was >$50 billion. And this gave an impression that this coin was another overpriced and overhyped project from developers who just wanted to get rich. Now it will be very difficult to convince the users to invest in this project again. I don't understand the mentality from the promoters. I agree that the project represents a really good idea. But at this point, going for a valuation of $50 billion is a bit too much.
I don't deny the issue, when it was listed it was easily exaggerated compared to the value it represented in the market. And what we're seeing with this coin is its massive drop since its own ATH, but it doesn't matter much I think if they do well then cap in what I believe they deserve it will only stop at <$20b
I see ICP as more of the same case with any IEO coin that instantly got listed in some big exchange, it reaches some ridiculous fee and then tank.
as I've seen ICP was really hyped so much that the price could reach as high as $800 and I was almost get fomo'd thinking it could hits $1000 trying to make an
entry at around $500m though I stopped since the market at early stage of listing is really volatile and than proves me right, though the current price I think it's undervalued.
Maybe I will also try to accumulate some but the thing I was most afraid was the same as you, the market cap grows so fast it's actually feels dangerous.

Agree. ICP had enormous potential with all the promising tech innovations it aims to promote. Sadly, Dfinity didn't know how to value its potential and real utilization.

And we really can't blame people for thinking ICP is a scam coin now when the leads and insiders from Dfinity tainted its name the same way. People hate ICP because its project leads, Dfinity, are thieves. They let greed & mismanagement take over. Its Coinbase listing was turned into a rug pull by the developers. That's why we created #ICPR to bring justice to the ICP community and #ICP itself. https://np.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Dfinity/ICP Speculation thread on: September 24, 2021, 05:44:46 AM
I always thought that when a project delays its implementation for many years, it often leads to nothing good, but we see the opposite, the team worked hard for a long time, and in the end we see what a successful project it turned out to be.

That totally depends on the how reliable the team and development progress that has been made. ICP is not the first case but i can tell you some coins that were doing the same thing like ICP.
if you know about file coin and this coin needs a few years to be launched in the market and it was giving very good result to the all of ico buyers.

Great analysis. All that promising progress only to be turned into a rug pull by developers themselves. We should have looked into it more and trusted less into Dominic. Dfinity did its community wrong.

We created a new community divorced from Dfinity. It was formed after experiencing significant deception, immense frustration, and lack of communication.

It is a community-driven project founded by people who were once part of the Dfinity community from inception and they are now part of an amalgamation of volunteers working for ICPR.

In comparison to Dfinity, ICPR will first be represented as an ERC-20 token in an open and honest format. ICPR will run on a truly democratic decentralized governance system in which members decide how to fork and improve upon this protocol while retaining flexibility on the direction of the network.

Instead of what happened with ICP, where the Dfinity team controlled over 50% of token supply, ICPR intends to have a fair and fully decentralized distribution of its tokens. One of the core principles is to achieve justice by reallocating tokens that the foundation held and unlocking tokens that the actual owners were denied access to. Join us as we fight for a truly decentralized ICP https://np.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/
6  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Dfinity Network - The Decentralized Cloud on: September 23, 2021, 07:13:03 AM
a really huge project,it is a pity to miss the early brid

Not really but good thing you missed the rug pull. ICP is a good project, but Dfinity ruined everyone's trust. The project had enormous potential; one that Dfinity failed to realize hence, easily turning its Coinbase listing into a rug pull, dumping the whole community.

We built a new community divorced from #Dfinity to give #ICP its own rights. With this, ICP may still have better, transparent days. Join us as we fight for a truly decentralized ICP https://np.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/
7  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Dfinity Network - The Decentralized Cloud on: September 23, 2021, 07:03:31 AM
Achieving Consensus on the Internet Computer

The asynchronous finalization of the platform’s novel consensus protocol is unbelievably fast — finality happens in less than a second.
By Manu Drijvers, Engineering Manager (Consensus) | DFINITY

Security and reliability are essential to the vision of the Internet Computer — a blockchain computing platform that extends the functionality of the public internet so that it can host software, making next-generation dapps and open internet services possible.

Details on: https://medium.com/dfinity/achieving-consensus-on-the-internet-computer-ee9fbfbafcbc


ICP is a good project, but Dfinity ruined everyone's trust. The project had enormous potential; one that Dfinity failed to realize hence, easily turning its Coinbase listing into a rug pull, dumping the whole community.

We built a new community divorced from #Dfinity to give #ICP its own rights. With this, ICP may still have better, transparent days. Join us as we fight for a truly decentralized ICP https://np.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] Dfinity Network - The Decentralized Cloud on: September 23, 2021, 06:55:56 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2vprRqTCjn0
A New Technology Stack? Introducing the Internet Computer: DFINITY - Dominic Williams
20 Aug 2018

Great explanation from Dom.


ICP making more sense now...
Its not a Blockchain project but you get all the properties of a Blockchain...
its a Decentralized computing network..

"Hey'a good people, you might want to check out the open community we've created called ICP Reboot. It was formed after experiencing significant deception, immense frustration, and lack of communication from Dfinity.

We are a community-driven project founded by people who were once part of the Dfinity community from inception and they are now part of an amalgamation of volunteers working for ICPR.

In comparison to Dfinity, ICPR will first be represented as an ERC-20 token in an open and honest format. ICPR will run on a truly democratic decentralized governance system in which members decide how to fork and improve upon this protocol while retaining flexibility on the direction of the network.

Instead of what happened with ICP, where the Dfinity team controlled over 50% of token supply, ICPR intends to have a fair and fully decentralized distribution of its tokens. One of the core principles is to achieve justice by reallocating tokens that the foundation held and unlocking tokens that the actual owners were denied access to.

Join our channel and shoot us your impressions! https://np.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/"
9  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Internet Computer (ICP) - what's that? on: September 20, 2021, 06:35:13 AM
I looked at the statistics of this coin, the moment it appeared, it lost in price from the value of 450 dollars to 60. I have not yet had time to get acquainted with the white paper of the project. There are real holders of this coin to hear their opinion and information about the project, what exactly it offers and who are its supporters from the big players.

ICP actually has enormous potential, but it was initially priced too high only to find its Coinbase listing was turned into a rug pull by the developers. People now hate ICP because of Dfinity's greed and mismanagement.

After experiencing significant deception, immense frustration, and a lack of communication from Dfinity, we created a new community called ICPR. We are a community-driven project founded by people who were once part of the Dfinity community from inception and they are now part of an amalgamation of volunteers working for ICPR.

In comparison to Dfinity, ICPR will first be represented as an ERC-20 token in an open and honest format. ICPR will run on a truly democratic decentralized governance system in which members decide how to fork and improve upon this protocol while retaining flexibility on the direction of the network.

Instead of what happened with ICP, where the Dfinity team controlled over 50% of token supply, ICPR intends to have a fair and fully decentralized distribution of its tokens. One of the core principles is to achieve justice by reallocating tokens that the foundation held and unlocking tokens that the actual owners were denied access to.
10  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: ★[ANN] ICPR Vs Dfinity — Dfinity’s ICP ★ on: September 19, 2021, 11:36:43 PM
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11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / ★[ANN] ICP a Decentralized Future or Another Crypto Rug Pull? ★ on: September 19, 2021, 09:46:52 PM
Internet Computer: A Decentralized Future or another Crypto Rug pull?

The practices of Dfinity Foundation and its attitude towards its supporters are clearly not that of the standards set by legitimate crypto projects.
Dfinity never cared about its own community and investors.

Their actions resonate more with the exploitation committed by Onecoin, Sushiswap, Turtledex, and others, where the founding team performed a rug-pulled on the project for their profit.
At the same time, the supporters were left hanging out to dry. Even these big scammers turned out to be little but petty thieves when compared to what Dfinity has cost their believers.

Only if Dfinity had applied the same vesting period on themselves and their affiliates vesting the majority of tokens, the massive drop in ICP’s price wouldn’t have happened.

The way Dfinity is developing the Internet Computer is not to eliminate the centralization of the internet, as they claim to achieve but is merely a stunt to crown themselves as the new rulers of the internet.

Actions like these are the reason behind the demand for regulations in the DeFi space.
People are getting more skeptical about investing in DeFi projects due to the fear of rug-pulling by people like Dominic Williams and the big VCs who are just in it to make money off people who believe in the future of decentralization.


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What can we do?
Come make history and join the movement, entities need to be held accountable for their actions.
Class actions lawsuits are stacking up against Dfinity for their actions with ICP and this is just the start.
We are the decentralized and community-based solution to modern issues like this.


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Dear Community,

We thank you for all your patience and support over the last few months.
Finally, it is time for us to bring justice for ICP.
If you're new, please, stand with us, join the conversations today:
Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/


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12  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Blockchain 3.0, Next gen crypto talk on: September 19, 2021, 03:08:01 AM
I think i realised the one of the biggest benefits ICP has over all Blockchains...
The way ICP Blockchain is designed, it is the cheapest smart contracts platform of all.

Cost of 1GB of smart contract data...

Internet Computer:
New internet-scale blockchain
$5/GB/year

This is huge, imagine a DEX being built on ICP...even 1000s of DEXs all running at the same time..
Anything that requires millions, billions, trillions of smart contract txs..will prob use ICP due to its smart contract cost design system.


The technology behind ICP has enormous potential & it's sad when a good project is destroyed by greed.
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Dfinity token(ICP) set to launch trading tomorrow. on: September 15, 2021, 04:59:42 AM
ICP really is a great concept; unrealized in many ways. However, we, in the ICP Reboot community, are well aware of Dfinity's mishandling and mismanagement of it. That's why we created ICPR to bring justice to the ICP community and ICP itself.

Learn more about us via https://icpr.io/
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Speculation (Altcoins) / Re: Dfinity/ICP Speculation thread on: September 15, 2021, 04:52:46 AM
I always thought that when a project delays its implementation for many years, it often leads to nothing good, but we see the opposite, the team worked hard for a long time, and in the end we see what a successful project it turned out to be.

That totally depends on the how reliable the team and development progress that has been made. ICP is not the first case but i can tell you some coins that were doing the same thing like ICP.
if you know about file coin and this coin needs a few years to be launched in the market and it was giving very good result to the all of ico buyers.

Couldn't agree more! We really can't get away with DFINITY's wrongs throughout these past few months. In contrast to the infamous Dfinity, we created a new community to launch things the right way. Learn more about ICPR as we fight for a truly decentralized: https://np.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/
15  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Internet Computer (ICP) - what's that? on: September 15, 2021, 04:40:18 AM
thanks for this info. that's why ICP token price is so much high. but right now its falling because of the whole market is falling apart and even eth and bitcoin is in blood bath.
i am very positive about ICP token and its developments and hope that in future it will be a success but there are huge competitors.

ICP overpriced its initial offering. A few weeks ago, the market cap was as high as $75 billion, before the prices crashed in a matter of hours. This may be a good project, but I don't understand going for such a high valuation. The Ethereum ICO had an initial soft-cap of just $18 million. And these guys are going for almost 4,000 times of that amount. And for ICP, I don't think that the prices have bottomed out yet. The cryptocurrency market as a whole is looking bearish and for overpriced coins such as ICP, the future outlook is quite bleak.

Put mismanagement on top of it! ICP is hands down one of the most promising tech out there, #DFINITY destroyed that.
We're trying to bring back its value by creating a new and truly open community called ICPR. Join the club https://np.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/
16  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / ★[ANN] ICPR Vs Dfinity — Dfinity’s ICP ★ on: September 15, 2021, 02:32:14 AM
The Most Elaborate Scam in Crypto History — Dfinity’s ICP


To address the Dfinity foundation’s wrong-doings, we are creating ICP Reboot, a truly decentralized, autonomous organization where everyone can contribute.
ICPR is a community-driven project whose founding members were once members of the Dfinity community and believed in creating a truly decentralized internet.

The “Internet Computer” is a project started by the Dfinity Foundation, a Swiss, not-for-profit organization founded by Dominic Williams.
The goal of the Internet Computer is to decentralize the internet by creating an alternate open-source web infrastructure.

After its public launch on May 10, 2021, the token quickly gained momentum.
It was the third-largest cryptocurrency by market cap, following closely behind Bitcoin and Ethereum.

The community's enthusiasm soon evaporated as the token lost 95% of its value in weeks.
Resulting in countless retail investors losing their investments in the lightning-fast price decline.  

The following report from Arkham Intelligence documents where, how, and who was responsible for this devastating drop
: https://www.arkhamintelligence.com/icp/report

With ICPR, we are committed to creating a community-driven governance environment where every member can participate.
The ICPR project is forking the original Internet Computer Protocol.
We are starting a discussion among our community members on distributing tokens and bringing justice to the ICP community fairly.
You can check more details in your new community https://www.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/


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Dear Community,

We thank you for all your patience and support over the last few months.
Finally, it is time for us to bring justice for ICP.
If you're new, please, stand with us, join the conversations today:
Reddit https://www.reddit.com/r/icpReboot/


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17  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Tokens (Altcoins) / [ANN] ICP Reboot: The Fair Relaunch of the Internet Computer Protocol on: July 24, 2021, 04:49:49 PM
Who is ICP Reboot?

ICP Reboot is a community-driven project to right the wrongs committed by dfinity's leadership. After experiencing significant deception, immense frustration, and a lack of communication from dfinity, we are launching things the right way: ICP Reboot.​​​​​​​

ICP Reboot is announcing the official release of a new token (ICPR) that is initially issued on the Ethereum blockchain with the intention to transition to a new network when the main-net is ready. ICPR will be first represented as a standard and audited ERC20 token, with EIP2612 permit (EIP712 signed approvals) functionality to ease the integration of the token with the rest of the protocol and the ecosystem. This token release has been brought to fruition with goals in mind to bring justice to the mistreated ICP community through a fair distribution and reallocation of tokens that had been unfairly vested by the dfinity foundation.



Coin Specs

  • There will be 470 million ERC20 tokens minted and governed by the ICP Reboot DAO
  • These tokens will be governed by a 6/9 Multi-Sig


We in the ICP Reboot community are well aware of the mishandling and mismanagement of early contributors and seed investors who have put their trust in the toolset offered by dfinity.org, thus lost access to their original key material and backups. We are committed to set a compliant and transparent process of analyzing such cases and reallocate contributor allocations via the DAO. Additionally, according to their original ICP allocations, ICPR tokens will initially be distributed to dfinity early contributors and seed investors who have been unfairly denied their tokens by the foundation. The distribution will allow contributors to claim their fully vested allocations without any additional locking or vesting schedule.


How the token works

During the first phases, the ICPR token might be subjected to a DAO governed and audited inflation to support any additional community claimed incentive programs to support early adopters of the network (such as staking, liquidity provision, etc.). Initially, the DAO will govern this capability, but eventually, it will be renounced and delegated to the staking incentives smart contract.


Contact us: Hello@icpr.io

The token is live here: https://etherscan.io/address/0x2eb007970aaf70d4a9ea485e1795fa9355a8c0f2

Join us on twitter @ https://twitter.com/IcpReboot

Website Link: Icpr.io
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