Let's remember this thread isn't about me....
So goat are you going to pay?
Are you going to keep diverting attention away from the supposed contract and communication you've had with the OP?
Will you ignore everyone's logical questions that point to the same conclusion: That you owe OP something of value in terms of his investment with you.
If I give op 100 percent of the btc he gave me to get this contract would you be happy? I will save you the time as it is a trick question as he did not give me btc. You fail to understand what is goin on. Something like this ? "Gurrty will transfer his 5762 Tygrr-Bot bonds to Chaang Noi (Goat) and his team. With this contract it will be equal to 5762 bitcoin in debt." https://i.imgur.com/llYRElK.png |
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OP has proven his part and you claim significant parts are missing. Thusly, it is expected and it is your turn to back up your claim. Nothing more and nothing less.
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I was willing to be reasonable and work this out so we all could be happy.
Could you kindly point out to me where this is apparent? Do you not think it was reasonable of me to ask why he thought he was owed anything when the contract is pretty clear that he is owed nothing? I have been wrong in the past and if he could tell me how I was wrong the issue would have been solved. Also keep in mind not all of the communication has been posted. He has been very selective in what he has posted. I have not lasted years on this forum doing up to and including $1,000,000 deals without being reasonable and honest. I never scammed and did a runner like so many. If you think my blocking his PMs after he called me names and what not was unreasonable then I guess we will have to disagree on that. Gurrty now wants to work this out in the courts and we will do so. He has that right and I am not going to stop him in anyway. If there is one person on this forum that throws the word Lawyer around left and right to no end, that would be you. Also, to be fair, it seems he said "Should I" rather than a firm commitment and you jumped on that eagerly. And i will answer your question indeed. I do find it unreasonable you ask him why he was owed anything. If it is clear on your mind that he is owed nothing, the burden is on you to demonstrate that. Specifically, that you run into hard times is not particularly relevant from his point of view as to why he is owed nothing. It is pertinent as to why he has not received most of the repayment though. Your hard times, respectable job and that most people in Bitcoin land lost money does not do a good job of supporting the claim he is owed nothing but solely why he has not received the repayment. Lastly, coming up with reasons and citing difficulties such as cash flow problems directly implies you owe him something in the first place. |
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I was willing to be reasonable and work this out so we all could be happy.
Could you kindly point out to me where this is apparent? |
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It's a good thing they are no longer around ! Otherwise, the losses would still be to come.
What is there not to like about bitbet ?
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PS: See what happens when you fuck with the wrong people via stealing their 1,132 BTC, Paymium? Bitcoin-Central's days, if not hours, are numbered. Anybody been having trouble cashing out lately, due possibly  to liquidity issues? If so, davout, a mod on this forum, is the owner of bitcoin-central.com/.net. Simply drop him a PM, whereupon he'll quickly ignore your message. Don't bother contacting Boussac, for I believe he's still shaken up over what happened in Amsterdam. It wouldn't surprise me to learnt he's still being question by Interpol. "Post loudly and tote a long sword" is my new motto.  |
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so, according to this post: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=555595.msg6126415#msg6126415And the following comment: Davout removes posts from a french thread requesting nothing else than a neutral moderator and sticks those removed posts in a new thread which gets labeled as off-topic. These 'removed posts' are specifically related to Instawallet, Bitcoin ! and Davout and adds even more grounds to requesting a neutral moderator in the first place. Attention Davout: Are these allegations correct and does this portray an accurate picture of your character? Thank you |
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I don't believe I ever got my meagre 0.3Bitcoins nor any response.
Is there still a way for me to move forward with this ?
Not quite the level of Bruno. You seem to have been on this topic from the beginning.
Add an exception for this particular certificate so you can access the interface and PM what you see, I'll have a look. Did not get my deposit back as I did not have sufficient proof of making my claim in the first place. To paraphrase a little piece from the french section, Is there a count of how much BTC got reimbursed vs the total reported in instawallet before the show started? |
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D'après ce que j'ai vu en survolant, le type en question n'est pas capable de prouver qu'il a placé 1000 BTC dans son wallet ce qui est très louche et ne permet pas de le prendre au sérieux.
J'ai personnellement 0.3 btc sur cte instawallet. Retrouvez les adresses utilisées etc n'est pas si facile que ca. Faut deja avoir les wallet et pouvoir refaire des liens etc. ça remonte au moment où des transactions de centaines et de milliers de bitcoins se produisaient. En tout cas, pour ma part. Par exemple, j'utilisais le bitcoin app sur mon ubuntu et j'avais des labels pour toutes les adresses. Avec la taille du blockchain, je suis passé sur le blockchain.info pour ces 'anciennes' addresses et changé d'ordi. Sans les labels, savoir quelle adresse était chez instawallet est difficile. Ca revient à la responsabilité individuelle, mais 5'000 usd en bitcoin n'avait de base pas la même attention que le million de nos jours pour je pense beaucoup de personnes. Ensuite, pourquoi ce sujet est hors-sujet peut être perçu comme louche, surtout compte tenu du fait que le moderateur de forum est le même que le concerné. Humblement et naìvement, dans ces conditions-ci, les mêmes règles ne devraient pas être appliquées. |
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"Nous n'envoyons pas de bitcoin ! Vous pourrez uniquement les utiliser via notre site "
L'humour aide beaucoup ces temps.
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sounds like a bad a idea for everyone involved
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America is not the world - take a wider look
Quote where I said "America". And isn't it great I can quote myself? If poor people only use BTC back and forth between each other it would be wonderful, but that isn't going to happen for a long long long time, 10s of years later maybe, MAYBE people will all be tech savvy. MAYBE. But BTC doesn't solve any problems for the majority of people and you know it.
Your whole damn post smells of an American point of view. Some first job, talking about the merits of a credit card and the wonders of Obama being elected and how it means a whole lot. |
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Face reality.
At this point, can anyone really say there is something that will catapult Bitcoin straight up like happened months ago?
Bank runs in China, Europe and the US ? It has already started. If you use the US dollar as reference for the value of Bitcoin and then claim it has peaked ! The burden is on you to prove it as all odds are against you. And this includes adressing more aspects than who voted for whom in some theater. Money as debt being one of them and how this will continue for ever long ! The trend in Europe of seizing money in peoples account for example. The dwindling value of the US dollar for the past 80 years versus all kinds of benchmarks. That you mention stock trading as some kind of an alternative and put forth your low % fee with credit cards is ridiculous. Bitcoin will stay with or without you, so don't worry too much. From a larger perspective, your reaction has been around for years in bitcoin world, "it has peaked !!!" It peaked at 1$, definetly peaked at 32$ for a while.. peaked at 100 and then the almighty 1'200, that has to be the peak. Good luck in your 'first' job ! |
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Do you accept btc as payment?
Indeed they do, since day 1 |
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I have not received my payout and when accessing my address I get the following: www.instawallet.org uses an invalid security certificate. The certificate expired on 07/17/2013 01:59 AM. The current time is 07/22/2013 11:21 AM. (Error code: sec_error_expired_certificate) And cannot move beyond that. I don't believe I ever got my meagre 0.3Bitcoins nor any response. Is there still a way for me to move forward with this ? Not quite the level of Bruno. You seem to have been on this topic from the beginning. Not having read everything Bruno, but regarding The URL you reported matches no such walllet.
In order to look into it deeper I requested some more information about the wallet : public address, blockchain-related information etc.
You weren't even able to point me to one, or a set of, transactions funding said wallet that would total to the amount you claim.
Such information might have been a first step and allow us to check for its existence.
I invested a reasonable amount of time in trying to help you, but as far as our data goes this wallet does not exist.
For the record, our server hard-drives were given to law-enforcement when our complaint was filed, if I remember correctly you were given a copy of the receipt.
We're not "hiding" anything, neither are we "covering our tracks".
The next payout is scheduled for the beginning of june, I'll post more information here whenever it is available and if applicable.
Was the copy of the receipt you received this ?Did you address the question about any transactions funding your IW addresses ? You quoted 2 IW URLs, surely the gang in this forum can at least point to the validity of the URL structure no? |
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It sounds like you are talking purely from a speculator perspective, which is narrow-minded. Right now I don't own any bitcoins but I am far from "out of the game". Bitcoin is about its advantages and innovation, it's not a get-rich-quick scheme.
And how did he give that impression? He didn't take his BTC, convert them to fiat and set the fiat on fire... he simply switched from a highly volatile form of wealth storage to a far less volatile form of wealth storage. He also took advantage of a dip in silver prices. the dip in silver price is totally and completely irrelevant compared to the growth of bitcoin. |
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