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1021  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Some Statistics on: August 17, 2010, 05:10:29 PM
http://github.com/mizerydearia/mizerydearia_phpbitcoinscripts
1022  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / This offsite thread can use some attention on: August 17, 2010, 03:12:23 AM
The Zeitgeist Movement - First truly decentralized, impossible to control, free currency

Perhaps it may be worthy to spread knowledge from within our community to other communities taht discuss about Bitcoin?  In some threads on other sites I have noticed that there is a lack of information or understanding as to how Bitcoin works.  Perhaps if any of us discover such a thread we can reference it here so that we can also add useful, insightful, factual knowledge/information to the discussion?

Feel free to reference other threads that are notable and i can include them in this first post.
1023  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Network protocol overview doc on: August 17, 2010, 01:15:44 AM

I think it is not so useful to produce any types of communication indicative of trying to change how things seem to be.  Instead, perhaps focusing on simply progressing on related developments in a way that doesn't interfere with this issue.  It will be more productive to put forth efforts into accomplishing that rather than communicating otherwise.  However, if like me, you feel you are not a kind of individual who is skilled or informed enough to start production of such documentation, then it makes more sense why you may decide to post or communication in such a manner.  However, it is unnecessary nonetheless.  Someone, eventually, will realize or determine they are a kind of person skilled enough to produce an alternative type of documentation and we can eventually collaboratively work on establishing it to be useful as I had intended from the beginning.  Arguing is just waste of time, energies, etc. regardless of how well spent such time makes you, personally, feel.

Anyone interested to offer a basis for a new type of documentation that we can collaboratively use?
1024  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Letter to the EFF on: August 17, 2010, 12:20:20 AM
A super geeky way to do subscription payments is with the console client and cron. Tongue

If the EFF had a Bitcoin address I'd donate often.


Only to forget! Your client need a regular donation mechanism.

It is fairly simple to produce a client that uses the api/json
1025  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Random or user-specified ports on: August 16, 2010, 10:21:12 PM
Use Gavin's -port and -rpcport patch.
http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=589.0

It works great.

I still have difficulties compiling from source.  I look forward to that being intregrated into the binary client soon.  Thanks.
1026  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Anonymity on: August 16, 2010, 12:42:10 PM
In my experience, sending doesn't work with incorrect addresses.

Incorrect addresses as in malformed addresses that are illegal or as in addresses that are currently considered nonexistent due to not being generated yet?

If the latter, how is it possible that all clients can verify whether an address exists or not?  Perhaps a call asking if it exists and if no response in ~2secs or so, then it doesn't exist?
1027  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Yet Another Chain? Nothing to worry about it seems on: August 16, 2010, 12:35:51 PM
Uhhhh, I just noticed something in the last couple minutes that appears to resemble that the block chains have split once again!

I ran the old client 0.3.8.1 with a data backup from after block 74638 (~74670 or so) to see what happened.  I noticed the blocks catch up to about the same amount that with client 0.3.8.10.1 shows.  Then I extracted the data from blk0001.dat and compared to blk0001.dat for current version and here's the data:

0.3.8.1 http://pastebin.com/YxZeutkW
0.3.10.1 http://pastebin.com/ZTj4fwqq

Notice that at block 74715 and on the timestamps are different!  This seems strange!

Update:
<Insti> the chain will be constantly splitting as long as people are running the old client
<Insti> which keeps trying to re-include the overflow transaction
<pavelo> indeed
<necrodearia> Constantly splitting and then constantly resyncing?
<pavelo> yup
<necrodearia> mm
<necrodearia> I guess that makes sense
1028  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Network protocol overview doc on: August 16, 2010, 11:42:40 AM
Basically what seems to be uncomfirmed and is being delayed is jgarzik's written indication of licensing for the documentation.

jgarzik: Will you provide this information?  If not within your next post in this thread, I will be certain to delete the contents in the wiki post and request that an admin/mod delete the wiki page entirely so that it is a little bit more difficult for it to be used as a reference for further developments.  This should help to prevent usage of the documentation produced and publicized by you and prevent any legality that may otherwise be pursued by you or anyone else in this matter.

If necessary, perhaps the protocol can be altered slightly to accomodate for documentation of the protocol in a way that is different from that of jgarzik's documentation and thus a kind of documentation can be produced by someone else so that its it not similar to or deemed a derivative and can be established as a unique work and hopefully this is done by someone who does not pursue a similar claim of ownership causing even further discussion to take place.  I am uncertain of whether or not this is necessary, but it seems to be a kind of solution that can resolve the matter rather quickly.
1029  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Anonymity on: August 16, 2010, 11:37:41 AM
software development effort has been spent to make the current situation that removes anonymity.

Maybe this should be the next news headline posted at top of forum pages after the current warning becomes less important.
1030  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Random or user-specified ports on: August 16, 2010, 11:33:33 AM
Unable to bind to port 8333 on this computer.  Bitcoin is probably already running.
1031  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Some Statistics on: August 16, 2010, 11:22:33 AM
Thanks to Keefe @ irc for providing block data up to the data displayed.

Here is a frozen collection of data/statistix since unix timestamp 128194750 that may be useful for comparison
http://nullvoid.org/bitcoin/74638/statistix.74638.php (old chain)
http://nullvoid.org/bitcoin/74638/statistix.php (new chain)
1032  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Random or user-specified ports on: August 16, 2010, 10:35:10 AM
PLEASE implement variable ports instead of using 8332 and 8333!!!
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I only have one system and cannot afford another, yet I would like to run an instance of the old client with data from old block chain (with generating disabled) to analyze the data in comparison with the data in the new block chain.  This is not possible, however, as I have only one computer, and my attempts to compile from source and modify the ports has failed as I do not know how to do this.  It would be VERY much appreciated if I weren't to have to go through this trouble and could simply specify to the client to use a different port and then I could provide the information to myself and others for analyzation.   But, alas I cannot.  Boooooo!!! =/
1033  Bitcoin / Development & Technical Discussion / Re: Network protocol overview doc on: August 16, 2010, 09:02:51 AM
NewLibertyStandard: It is rather obnoxious/annoying to produce troll-liek posts however strongly you feel one way or the other.  Not everyone pursues same choices and there should be acceptance of choices of others even if they conflict with or otherwise are bother you in some fashion.  Also, posting in such a way is embarrassing for some of us as it presents a kind of immature or premature path of discussion.
1034  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Notation on: August 16, 2010, 05:38:28 AM
I looks much nicer if you use the thin space: 100 000.00

It is &thinsp; in HTML and Unicode character U+2009.

100.000 <-- with dot
100,000 <-- with comma
100 000 <-- with space
100 000 <-- with thin space


Code:
12345678901234567890
         0         0 <-- spaces
         0         0 <-- thin spaces.  Not so thin anymore!  Muhahahahahahahahahaha!!!
1035  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Bitcoin Vocabulary on: August 16, 2010, 05:18:12 AM
Help to establish vocabulary and definitions here: http://www.bitcoin.org/wiki/doku.php?id=bitcoin_vocabulary
1036  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Letter to the EFF on: August 16, 2010, 05:05:58 AM
I took Ichi's version and modified it a little bit.



Dear Electronic Fronter Foundation, the Bitcoin community appreciates your ongoing efforts to protect Internet freedom. We hope to generally remain free of intervention, and would welcome your support.

The Bitcoin community comprises approximately N users and over 30 business enterprises employing a new open-source P2P cryptocurrency and monetary system called Bitcoins. The software for bitcoin is published under the MIT license. In addition to many other useful properties, Bitcoin has extremely low transaction fees, high divisibility, and is hard to produce and fake. These features make Bitcoin useful as a medium of exchange. As such, Bitcoin may become a threat to centralized monetary systems, which are typically backed by governments. The Bitcoin community knows that governments will defend their monetary monopolies, perhaps by suppressing the Bitcoin economy.

As a demonstration of our value, members of the Bitcoin community would like to donate some of our goods -- cryptocurrency bitcoins -- to you. In order to facilitate that process, we request that you add a bitcoin donation button to the EFF website.  That would involve setting up a Bitcoin node, which is quite straightforward. We estimate that EFF would receive approximately X bitcoins currently worth about Y USD. We note that, by accepting bitcoin donations, EFF might expand its support base (perhaps substantially).

"Dear Electronic Fronter Foundation, the Bitcoin community appreciates your ongoing efforts to protect Internet freedom."
"Dear Electronic Fronter Foundation,

The Bitcoin community appreciates your ongoing efforts to protect Internet freedom."

"We hope to generally remain free of intervention"
humm...  http://onelook.com/?w=generally&ls=a  I'm not sure about "generally" or more importantly the sentence/message directly after the first sentence.  Perhaps simply:
"We hope to remain free of intervention and would welcome your support" <-- Note: no comma

"and is hard to produce and fake"
"and is difficult to produce and counterfeit"
1037  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Letter to the EFF on: August 16, 2010, 04:59:33 AM
If classic letter, perhaps it would be interesting if Satoshi were to personally prepare the letter himself and to fancy it with Bitcoin-related art/imagery/symbolism and perhaps even have a Bitcoin sticker to seal the envelope. ^_^  That would be AMAZING! ... and definitely garnish some incentive, motivation and interest for the EFF to consider Bitcoin as a healthy establishment.
1038  Economy / Economics / Re: Definition of a Commodity & Are Bitcoins a Commodity? on: August 16, 2010, 04:52:52 AM
This topic was being discussed over in the animated movie thread and in these other threads which I just ran into again.
By golly! Would you look at all these threads I just happened to run into again! Tongue

^_^   Be careful not to hurt yourself.
1039  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Notation on: August 16, 2010, 04:36:49 AM
There is a thread on this board titled 'Win 100.000 BTC'.

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=761.0
1040  Economy / Marketplace / Re: Remote Linux/FreeBSD administration for BTC on: August 16, 2010, 04:19:52 AM
 Huh
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