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321  Economy / Currency exchange / attn:bitcoin exchanges - request for json api trades by timestamp/tradeid on: September 19, 2011, 04:54:35 AM
I opted to post this on the forum instead of emailing each exchange (which I will do anyway to alert them of this thread), which also allows for newly established exchanges to also participate:

I am streaming trades in real-time to #bitcoin-markets on Freenode, similar to #bitcoin-market that I originally established and have since passed on to nanotube (*waves*), but with potentially much faster (the data is multi-threaded and for some markets, trade data results are faster, e.g. 2-10 seconds delay instead of 10-40 seconds) results.  The short delay is true only for exchanges with a JSON trade API implementation that allows for querying all trades since a last timestamp or trade id, therefore guaranteeing downloading only the trade history, reducing bandwidth and processing time.

I have noticed some exchanges that have a discrepancy with sequential trade ids relative to timestamps; some trades have trades ids lesser than other trades but with timestamps more recently/newer than the same trades.  This type of exchange implementation provides a potential issue in the case of querying new trades since last trade id since the particular new trade would be new, but have a much lower trade id than the last trade id from recent queries.  Therefore, if your exchange is like this, it makes much more sense to provide a JSON trade API implementation that references date timestamps instead of last trade id.

If your exchange is interested in adding implementation (or does it already have it?) to query trades either equal to or later than a particular timestamp or greater than a trade id, reply.

Oh, btw, the open source python bot in #bitcoin-markets is still under development.

Also see https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=45783
322  Other / Meta / Re: Info about the recent attack on: September 16, 2011, 03:12:51 PM
Theymos YTMND

Someone should post something (worthy) at http://theymos.ytmnd.com/
323  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Developers on: September 16, 2011, 02:58:17 PM
Looks like someone did that and it now includes people who didn't contribute a single line of code to the satoshi client (which the little box is all about).

hmm, perhaps the Bitcoin article should be renamed to Bitcoin client to reflect that it is about the client and not about Bitcoin?  -or- split the article into two, one about the satoshi client and another about Bitcoin in general?  That should prevent confusion regarding names of people since there are many separate developments for bitcoin in which all such developments are developed by developers.
324  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Developers on: September 16, 2011, 01:10:10 AM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bitcoin lists only a few developers for Bitcoin.  Perhaps it would be useful to include everyone's name there?
325  Bitcoin / Meetups / Re: EUROPEAN BITCOIN CONFERENCE 2011, PRAGUE NOV 25-27 on: September 15, 2011, 08:34:25 PM
A bit delayed, but finally submitted and added icon in header. ^_^
326  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin Developers on: September 14, 2011, 06:24:03 PM
Any progress on this?
327  Economy / Economics / The Ascent of Money by Niall Ferguson - full 4hr 48min (minus E06) on: September 14, 2011, 06:03:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QY8g_IsI_gY
328  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin mentioned at congressional hearing. on: September 14, 2011, 05:53:32 PM
* mizerydearia cuts out eyes x_x
329  Economy / Currency exchange / This ... is ... obnoxious on: September 14, 2011, 04:48:47 PM
In case there are, I apologize to MtGox for trying to put pressure on them to do so.

Huh?  Apologize for pointing out flaws for poorly written proprietary, security through obscurity implementation of bitcoin market with history of lying, censoring/deleting forum posts, market data and other history-rewriting activities?  I, for one, would rather have high expectations of any and all operations and not offer any leniency or acceptancy of poor performers simply due to .... .. actually, I have no idea what reason there would be...  perhaps opportunity for expressing innocence?  incompetence?  other?

Alternatively, instead of thoroughly analyzing/stress-testing mtgox market so as to establish any amount of legitimacy (or lack thereof), why not establish effort towards evaluating other later-established (later than early/mid-last year) exchange markets and to give them opportunity to establish themselves as reputable, reliable, trustworthy, secure, etc. exchange market worthy of establishing as bestest exchange markets to make use of...  What is it about mtgox that is superior to all of the other existing exchanges in that it has more volume?


o/ obnoxious post is obnoxious
330  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin mentioned at congressional hearing. on: September 14, 2011, 04:33:42 PM
don't get me wrong, I am not defending it at all. What I am saying is passing this wacky extremist bill is not going to do anything good for our economy, and I would bet you my entire Bitcoin wallet that it never does.

Can you explain how it would be bad for the economy? Also why do you use Bitcoin if you believe that undermining your country's currency is bad for the economy?

I agree with you, just want to point out that the Federal Reserve notes are not the country currency, they are the government currency.

Isn't federal reserve a company/bank?
331  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: "The Ethical Exchange" is Coming - Should General Bitcoin Users Trust It? on: September 14, 2011, 02:05:42 PM
5.Which competing exchange told you to post this shit in the forum...

O_O   I'm confused.... Who is the person behind that post above and why produce offensive style of communication?  Usage of 'shit' or other profanity is not necessarily offensive, however, in the context it was used, it seems a bit embarrassing and/or degrading, in my opinion. =/
332  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin mentioned at congressional hearing. on: September 14, 2011, 03:39:47 AM
In one slide at 11:30ish

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Now, the promise to pay a dollar has been broken, and
The broken promise to pay a dollar has become a dollar!
Our money is now defaulted promissory notes

14:25+ cat/dog reference to explain fraudulent us dollar is quite interesting

House Resolution 1098

2nd speaker that referenced 'bitcoins' is Dr. Lawrence H. White.
333  Economy / Currency exchange / Re: Bitcoin Exchanges / Escrows on: September 13, 2011, 09:44:55 PM
Their fee schedule drops by the tier , continuing past 500 and 2000 and 5000 etc.

Yeah, https://mtgox.com/fee-schedule
It is too much information to describe the fees.

334  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Mt Gox Break In Part 2 on: September 13, 2011, 12:23:51 AM
This was yesterday in the MtGox IRC channel:

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17:31 < kinlo> there is something wrong, how can it have gone above 10 when my sell order at 8 didn't occur?
17:31 < molecular> it didnt reall go above 10, I assume
17:31 < Ymgve> kinlo: bugs, the orders didn't happen or there was something wrong in the matching algorithm
17:32 < kinlo> MagicalTux: ?
17:32 < molecular> likely has to do with the "new currency markets"
17:32 <@MagicalTux> no
17:32 <@MagicalTux> has to do with hackers trying their best to do stuff normal people wouldn't by dropping large amounts of stolen funds/coins

...

17:35 < molecular> flushing bad orders? How do I make a "bad sell order" at 30 USD? ^^
17:35 < xelister> molecular: =)
17:35 <@MagicalTux> molecular, I blocked ~2000 accounts created most likely for the purpose of killing bitcoin on 9/11
17:35 <@MagicalTux> their trades do remain however
17:35 < molecular> MagicalTux, holy moly!
17:35 <@MagicalTux> but they cannot execute, causing weird results





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<wardearia> <MagicalTux> has to do with hackers trying their best to do stuff normal people wouldn't by dropping large amounts of stolen funds/coins  ---  Is the claim of the people behind the large amounts of bitcoins transacting at mtgox being 'hackers' accurate or is it speculation?  Also, is it accurate that if large transactions occur at mtgox.com the site will only break if those people transacting are hackers and not legitimate transacters?
<upb> lol
<upb> good questions Smiley




Also, with a shady history of lying and censoring/deleting posts to cover history of events/information, why not resort to even further shadiness of preserving buggy code for sake of compromise or even participating in the compromises 1st partily in the guise of 3rd party compromizations?  Regardless though, the codebase developed for mtgox.com exchange seems ripe for abuse and exploitation and will be a feeding ground for those that want bitcoins through the challenge of exploitation.

I would imagine it would be more wise to collectively or consensually switch to a more reputable and secure/reliable exchange market and allow it to establish as most popular exchange site..... preferably one that has 0% transaction fees.   Otherwise with mtgox's 0.6% transaction fee from both sides of each transaction and approximate 1,200,000 bitcoins per month transacted, mtgox makes 14,400 bitcoins a month...and at us$6 each, that's almost us$100,000 profix per month.  OMFGZ!! =/
335  Economy / Currency exchange / Bitcoin Exchanges / Escrows on: September 12, 2011, 10:44:17 PM
Here are some notes from the different markets offered by Bitcoin exchanges.  Let me know if there are any mistakes.

Code:
Symbol Currency Type Transaction Fee
britcoinGBP GBP exchange 0%, free
bitmarketEUR EUR escrow 0%, free
intrsngEUR EUR exchange 0%, free
bitmarketUSD USD escrow 0%, free
intrsngUSD USD exchange 0%, free
bitmarketGBP GBP escrow 0%, free
bitmarketPLN PLN escrow 0%, free
bitmarketRUB RUB escrow 0%, free
bcLRUSD LRUSD exchange 0%, free
intrsngGBP GBP exchange 0%, free
bcLREUR LREUR escrow 0%, free
bcPGAU PXGAU exchange 0%, free
bcEUR EUR exchange 0%, free
sldcn24SLC SLC exchange 0.1%
btceUSD USD exchange 0.1%
wbxAUD AUD exchange 0.1% (capped at 0.025 BTC) when buying BTC, 0.6% (capped at 0.25 AUD) when selling BTC, 3.0% (MTGOX AUD Voucher) when Depositing funds
hbtc USD exchange 0.15% for sellers, 0.35% for buyers, minimum equivalent of us$0.02
bitparkIXC IXC exchange 0.2%
bitparkNMC NMC exchange 0.2%
bitparkI0C I0C exchange 0.4%
bitstampUSD USD exchange 0.5%
bcmBMGAU PXGAU escrow 0.5% commission / sending money
bcmBMAUD BMAUD escrow 0.5% commission / sending money
bcmBMUSD BMUSD escrow 0.5% commission / sending money
exchbUSD USD exchange 0.54%
btcexUSD USD exchange 0.55%
campbxUSD USD exchange 0.55%
b7USD USD exchange 0.57%
b7BGN BGN exchange 0.57%
b7SAR SAR exchange 0.57%
b7EUR EUR exchange 0.57%
b7PLN PLN exchange 0.57%
virtexCAD CAD exchange 0.59% of transaction value in either CAD (buying) or BTC (selling), 0.01 (CAD/BTC) minimum
mtgoxUSD USD exchange 0.6%
thUSD USD exchange 0.6%
thEUR EUR exchange 0.6%
mtgoxRUB RUB exchange 0.6%
thAUD AUD exchange 0.6%
thLRUSD LRUSD exchange 0.6%
mtgoxPLN PLN exchange 0.6%
mtgoxEUR EUR exchange 0.6%
mtgoxAUD AUD exchange 0.6%
thCLP CLP exchange 0.6%
thINR INR exchange 0.6%
mrcdBRL BRL exchange 0.6%
mtgoxGBP GBP exchange 0.6%
mtgoxSEK SEK exchange 0.6%
mtgoxCNY CNY exchange 0.6%
mtgoxTHB THB exchange 0.6%
mtgoxCAD CAD exchange 0.6%
mtgoxCHF CHF exchange 0.6%
mtgoxDKK DKK exchange 0.6%
mtgoxHKD HKD exchange 0.6%
mtgoxJPY JPY exchange 0.6%
mtgoxNZD NZD exchange 0.6%
mtgoxSGD SGD exchange 0.6%
rockSLL SLL exchange 1%
bcmPXGAU PXGAU escrow 2% withdrawing
bcmLRUSD LRUSD escrow 2% withdrawing
bcmMBUSD MBUSD escrow 2% withdrawing
bcmMLUSD MLUSD escrow 3% withdrawing
virwoxSLL SLL exchange 50SLL + 1.00%
b2cUSD USD exchange shipping and handling fee of us$5.00 when receiving us$ by mail
ruxumUSD USD exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumJPY JPY exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumHKD HKD exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumTHB THB exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumCHF CHF exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumGBP GBP exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumEUR EUR exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumSGD SGD exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumPLN PLN exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumAUD AUD exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumRUB RUB exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumHUF HUF exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumSEK SEK exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumZAR ZAR exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
ruxumUAH UAH exchange us$10 per bank wire transfer deposit for all currencies
bitchangePLN PLN exchange withdrawals 1PLN
336  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ownership vs Possession of bitcoins on: September 12, 2011, 03:14:43 PM
If Intersango didn't want to give BenDavis 511 bitcoins, they would write code that doesn't give it away so freely.

See https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=40934.msg520870#msg520870
337  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Exchange accidentally sent 512 bitcoins after coding error on: September 12, 2011, 03:11:43 PM
If Intersango didn't want to give BenDavis 511 bitcoins, they would write code that doesn't give it away so freely.

This code was thoroughly tested using testnet.
The issue was with the server configuration, the database user did not have the proper permissions and the code failed in an unexpected way.
I have now changed to relevant code such that any failure of any kind will stop the script cold.
338  Other / Meta / Re: Info about the recent attack on: September 12, 2011, 03:03:03 PM
I cannot recall where I read it, but I think theymos (was it someone else?) mentioned that only a few bitcoin community members were contacted by email regarding volunteers for hosting the forum.  Is it possible to shed some light on the people that were contacted so the community knows who were the only people that had opportunity to volunteer to host the forum?

Anyone willing to suggest who the people that were contacted are?  Perhaps this is undesirable to publicate?

Found a follow up email after the initial request for volunteers:  http://pastebin.com/48tPCHUP

Malmi Martti
Jeff Garzik
Mike Hearn
Bruce Wagner
Pieter Wuille
email@xx.com
Marc Bevand
Matt Corallo
Jed McCaleb
Gavin Andresen
Nils Schneider
info@xx.cz
solar
Stefan Thomas

Also, included in original email (not shown in pastebin above):
email@onlyonetv.com
info@bitcoin.cz (slush)
339  Other / Meta / Re: Info about the recent attack on: September 11, 2011, 08:49:14 AM
I cannot recall where I read it, but I think theymos (was it someone else?) mentioned that only a few bitcoin community members were contacted by email regarding volunteers for hosting the forum.  Is it possible to shed some light on the people that were contacted so the community knows who were the only people that had opportunity to volunteer to host the forum?
340  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Ownership vs Possession of bitcoins on: September 09, 2011, 06:27:53 PM
Does anyone else feel strange when they see strange case usage? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=7413.0
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