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1  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin Back to 5000 Dollars ? on: October 25, 2017, 10:16:06 PM
I think the price will be stuck at a price of $ 5500, or close to that price. I'm not sure that bitcoin prices will be under $ 5000. well, that could happen, but it will happen if everyone becomes panicked to sell the bitcoin they have.
Yeah that's right because if the price play in around $5300-$5700, it will make us confused to make a decission. i mean we will hold or sell, no doubt some of us are scared the price would down after fork. that's why i have sold some bitcoin at $ 6000. now i just hold a little in case if my prediction goes wrong.
2  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: freebitco.in "Browser Mining" - is it worth it? on: October 25, 2017, 09:55:31 PM
Indeed laptop or pc can be used to mine bitcoin, but what you earn is not worth with the risk. if you intend to mine bitcoin, I suggest to buy mining hardware than you are using this way or investing in cloud mining because the both ways that i mentioned will never give a profit.
3  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Did you learn from your gambling mistakes? on: October 25, 2017, 09:47:28 PM
analyze the defeats needed to survive and become an expert, many gamblers who give up in frustration without thinking of anything, the learning process is also not instant because the defeat can not be calculated and predictable, we just need to increase the spirit and not easily give up. If it's too complicated, we can also share the strategy with more senior gamblers so that everything becomes easier.
In fact, the analysis is not easy and when we experience a continuous of defeat then it will arise frustration and that's what makes us unable to analyze correctly, I'm sure ask to others can't help you because it's just like you buy a tips from tipster.
4  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Where do Bitcoin poker players play and why? on: October 25, 2017, 09:41:24 PM
I do not know why this game is like not appealing to gamblers, maybe some of them experience an unusual defeat in this game or maybe they do not want to waste their time because for win in this game, we need takes a long time.
5  Economy / Gambling / Re: Why rollin.io closed their service ? on: October 25, 2017, 09:35:54 PM
I'm pretty sure they were making a nice income of 100,000$ / month.  if not more.
why they close ?
As we know they only have one game that is dice game, maybe they intend to open a new casino that has more game options or they are closed because they are getting enough profit and also they are afraid the dice game will can't compete with other games. did you lose fund  or something? just wait the official statement from Rollin.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread (EPL) on: October 25, 2017, 09:26:48 PM
seems tottenham Hotspur not want to participate in English Cup for concentrate on the premier league, I see this defeat is not reasonable because they playing is not like when beat liverpool.
7  Economy / Speculation / Re: Bitcoin at all time high $6000 on: October 24, 2017, 11:07:29 PM
Heyyy guys , bitcoin at $6000 after world bank president said "buying bitcoin at 5200 is too expensive "  ... what price do you see the market will close this year at ? Thanks all  Wink
Everyone have each opinion of it, you may think bitcoin can touch $ 6000, that's after the world bank president said "bitcoin at 5200 is too expensive but there is also a opinion bitcoin prices rise high because many bitcoin users choose not to sell bitcoin to get bitcoingold whatever the reason but the fact that bitcoin has reached the highest price. i predict price would down a bit after fork may be till end of the year and then the price will start up in January.
8  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Daily bitcoin price by email? on: October 24, 2017, 10:46:52 PM
Is there any service that will send you a daily bitcoin price report? I want an in depth analysis sent to my email every 12-24 hours insteas of looking theoigh serveral websites to get an accurate price. Im wanting to pay for it

No, i do not know. but as far as now there are many applications that provide these services so you only need to set certain times that you have chosen to know bitcoin prices even you can set to be able to get a notification when the price has reached your target.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Does experience matter in gambling? on: October 24, 2017, 10:39:50 PM
Experience helps us make a better money management plan and limit ourselves with the spending. Another thing the continued involvement will help us make better analysis about the events and and make closer predictions. Altogether experience plays 50% while the rest happens on the luck one holds.
I will agree on this. In trading and investments there are skills and experience that matters mostly. You have to make decisions and you will be sticking to them throughout your way. So either you win or you learn. And this learning will help you to take better decisions. But when you talk about gambling, believe me there is only luck. Luck is dominant over experience.
It is crystal clear that gambling is same that is fully dependent on luck and without a good luck, you cannot win even a single penny in gambling. As far as experience and skills are concerned, their role is zero in gambling. Your gambling experience can never help you in winning the game or quitting it on the right time whereas everything is opposite in trading. Trading is not evil or immoral at all like gambling.
Exactly, but not all. experience can make us stop or stop temporarily from gambling because it is certain that human beings remember something that can make them miserable, as we know most of us lost in gambling. well, people who have been playing gambling for a long time surely they've experience like this, that's why I say experience can make us stop gambling.
10  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Provably verified in online Poker! Is it possible? on: October 24, 2017, 10:29:25 PM
Hi guys,
I have a serious question about the process of randomization in card shuffling in online poker.
Is there any solution for it to make it 100% transparent and verifiable and simple at the same time as well? Please share any innovative idea if you have any.

Yes it is.
1 - you have to "provable randomly" shuffle the cards.
2 - you have to prove the cards were handed out in that shuffled order.

But you would have to find a really smart solution to make it "simple".




Hi guys,
I have a serious question about the process of randomization in card shuffling in online poker.
Is there any solution for it to make it 100% transparent and verifiable and simple at the same time as well? Please share any innovative idea if you have any.

It's not even called a solution if you are going to make 100% transparency when playing online poker. I guess there's no use and it's not even an innovative idea. The idea of playing poker will be useless and for sure many will forget this game online if all the cards are transparent to each other, everyone will be folding their cards and will just quit the game later on because there's no use of playing it.

I don't think you know how provably fair systems works. (sorry if Im wrong)

The thing is you dont need to show cards to each other. All you need is to make sure "the cards order was given at game start and has not changed during the game".
This can be achieved by using "hash functions".

IMO by transparent he means: to be verifiable


That's why I'm a bit disagree if online poker games need skills, because as we hope the system will get a good card because the player with the highest-ranked poker hand is the winner, so it is crucial to understand the correct poker hand rankings.
11  Economy / Speculation / Re: Can Bitcoin Still Go Up? on: October 23, 2017, 10:47:53 PM
Bitcokn price is 6000 dollars and for sure it will continue to increase more in the future and maybe we see the price of 10k dollars next year not this year . Sometimes the transaction fee in bitcoin is small but its always high and I hope soon it will become lower because if the price increase the transaction fee will be low. More bitcoin more money to come so invest now.
Very honestly it is depending on the interest of the people, if peole are intersted in bitcoin then i think that the price will continue increasing, but i think if their interest is diverted to somewhere else then i do not think that its price willl continue increasing. Luckly the intereste of the people is still toward bitcoin and even their interst is incrasing from time to time, they are not even ready to sill their bitcoin but cotniuously holding it, because they are sure that after few years bitcoin will be more worth than its present value and they will even get more profit from bitcoin investment.

In the past few years, more and more companies have started accepting bitcoin. But then, the unregulated nature of this currency make people hard to predict when its price continue to  rise or when the bubble will burst. Some analysts believe its price will continue to rise over the next few years following its recent split into two different cryptocurrencies in an event known as "hard fork". I think this bitcoin could only goes up when people never tired of using it.
Hard Fork just helps Bitcoin improves its system and solve some problems make it can confirm transaction faster than before hard fork. Split to two chain (Bitcoin and Bitcoin clonned from fork) is the option of some miners do not accept old Bitcoin after forked and want to create new Bitcoin. Do you think it is good for Bitcoin community?
But there is a decrease in transaction costs after hard fork, of course this can make  bitcoin price down but all this is still a prediction because the bitcoin price isn't determined from it. anythingelse that happening it will give an impact, good or bad all determined by bitcoin users if bitcoin users still choose to hold or not sell then bitcoin prices can still rise even after hard fork.
12  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Is TabTrader App is SCAM? on: October 23, 2017, 10:35:42 PM
Someone told me to use tab trader but when I saw the app you need to import your private keys in your trading platform site. Im scared if this is safe to use. Can someone tell me if this is scam or legit.
I advise not to use any application to trade because many trades suffered losses even to lose their funds because in retas, why do not you trade manually. I think it's the safest way.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: How to play gambling in a smart way? on: October 23, 2017, 10:31:49 PM
Pick your website for betting with the biggest welcome bonus

Nice advertising strategy.  Grin But if you aren't new in that casino anymore your goal to gamble in a smart way isn't applicable anymore because the bonus is already done and you can't the welcoming bonus anymore. The smart way to gamble is to know that you are ready to gamble and you have been prepared on any consequences that you may be getting through when you gamble, it's either win or loss.

If I remember correctly some people told me that welcome bonus and all bonus is not really going to help us win. It will lock our deposit so we will be forced to spend time in the site. If we play long enough then we might be able to withdraw it if there is anything left to withdraw. I havent win anything either playing normally or with bonus so that idea is wrong

Yap it's not a big deal if you want to gamble in a specific gambling site because it's like just an incentive but what every gambler wants to do is to have a long term benefit through gambling. And this is the reason why everyone is keep on asking what are the possible way to gamble in a smart way. There's a lot of good deal that you have to do and you have to make sure that you are dealing and gambling with the right gambling site.

We can't change the fact that there is no way to play smart in gambling, because no matter what we do, we are just going to lose and that is because of the house. If we wanted to play smart, we have to quit gambling for good and think for another way on how we are going to earn money in a safe  way and not risky like gambling. There is ton of ways out there, for example is Trading, in this way, we could earn profits in the long run if we are going to choose carefully the tokens that we are going to use in Trading.

No mate, there are some ways to gamble in a smart way. We do have our own prefer strategies, rituals or sort of practice before we gamble. Together with this is the way on how we are going to limit, manage our money when we gamble. It only tells on how smart you are when you know how to manage your money properly and this is one that I can consider on how to play in a smart way.
It would be rather a bold way to gamble like accepting all the consequences with a happy face. The smart way to gamble is no way. Gambling is a harmful act which craves people a lot. If someone will have a sharp mind, he won't even gamble in first place. There is a safe way to gamble and that is to bet with small amount for a limited number of times. Otherwise, gambling is a hell.

Oh yes, it's better to gamble with a smiling face and you are ready for anything that can happen anytime. If you lose, just keep yourself good vibes don't let gambling pull you down to frustrations. It's just a matter of mind over emotion and don't let your emotion control you so that you can still keep on gambling. Another thing is that you have to gamble with your small amounts of bitcoin that you are ready to lose.
What? It's something we can not do, man. Smile is a feeling that arises because we are happy or feel something funny so we can not we can't smile unless you already win. really we can anticipate it by thinking of accepting defeat but it also will not work well because when your capital is ready to be exhausted then feelings of emotion or disappointment will emerge. it all happens by natural without us being able to control it.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do small investments make sense? on: October 23, 2017, 10:25:05 AM
Why not you shouldn't see the amount you get you should see the return if you invest 0.003 bitcoin and get 0.0006 in few months  the return is really less around 2$ but the percentage is 20% which means if you put 1000 you would get 200$ this percentage will surely encourage your mind to invest more next time

When you don't have a money $1000 to invest then better start with whatever you have first instead of waiting for accumulating $1000 because before reaching that $1000 accumulation you will gain an experience with small amount how these investments work. Once you start then you can add small amount whenever you got funds and can reach your $1000 or more.
You need higher amount to get more profit correct but higher the amount means there is more risk involved also if you invest 10$ and lose 10% that is 1$ but if you invest 1000$ and lose 10% that is 100$ higher amount doesn't mean higher profit  it also means higher loss if any

On this case I think the only real risk is to be hacked by the casino. As you said, if you invest $10 and lose 10% it will be $1, but if you invest $1000 and lose 10% it will be $100. The same applies on the another hand what makes the investment stable. You can lose 10% of $1000 today ($100), but tomorrow you can recover 20% bringing you back to the green profit (20% of $900).
Is there a casino that offers such benefits? as far as I know, they have determined how much profit that will be distributed to investors, unless the casino gets more or more of their prediction but I do not think they will ever raise the profit share. sorry if I'm wrong, because I'd rather invest in other investments.
15  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you set up limits for yourself? on: October 23, 2017, 10:21:18 AM
Hi guys!
We all know that gambling is not only a fun but also potential danger. So are you limiting yourself somehow when gambling? DO you use casino's instruments to prevent you spending more money?
Or do you just limit yourself by setting a certain amount of money to spend? Or you don't limit yourself at all?
Thanks for sharing!
Cheers,
Yours OshiHugo, Oshi.io CM
Me as a working mother and have a children I need to set up my limits to control my over spending in  playing gambling.I need to save half  of my money for the future purposes of my children and I dont need to spend it all just making myself fun and want to relive my stress.Controlling myself is my best way to avoid addiction in gambling.

Its important to have a limitation when you gamble because if you dont you might become addicted.

When im playing i set the amount im going to use for playing and if lose it then ill stop. Its very tempting but if i dont control myself ill end up losing more money.
I think having limitation can not help us not to become addicted to gambling because it only helps us for we are no lose than we can afford to lose. for example: many gamblers violate the prescribed limitations if they lose, is not a characteristic of people who have been addicted to gambling?
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Favorite type of gambling? on: October 23, 2017, 10:14:41 AM
I like to play bacarat, maybe because it's simple, easy and my luck is good with it. I used to like roulette because there's a lot of option to bet but it's not fun anymore for me.
Gambling is surely not fun anymore everything has changed so much before it was based on pure luck now you need luck and also face the house edge that isn't easy if you are in profit or loss it's going to be hard that you win anything in gambling

It is true that gambling is getting tougher by the day and it is the reason why there are options to choose games that best suited for each individual. I prefer sports betting over the others and there are even peer to peer bets where you can bet against a friend or a remote gambler and the house will act as the escrow or middlemen.
I do not understand what do you mean by gambling is getting tighter, maybe what you mean is that we are getting harder to win. if that's true, I think it's our own fault. the more often we gamble then the chance we're lose is more bigger because you must always think about how to win in gambling. well, this is what we should not do, just play without  afraid to lose or win. believe it or not if we play without think about winning or losing then we've bigger to win.
17  Economy / Gambling / Re: BTCHEAT.COM IS ONLY A HOAX? on: October 22, 2017, 08:58:26 PM
Btcheat.com is a legit or only hoax? Please give some clarify becuase i feel that this is like a phising site   Undecided

probably a scam. How did they generate profit?
Yep, it's a scam site. 3 spins every 3 hours, this way no one will be able to reach the minimum withdrawal amount. site will make money off ads i guess, users who visit this site won't get anything, so stop wasting your time on this!
Maybe this site is not a scam, it's just that they give a very small chance for the player can get the prize and I agree too much advertising because every time I click something then it will automatically be directed to other sites. really you should not waste time for a site like this.
18  Economy / Exchanges / Re: etoro or alternative exchange on: October 22, 2017, 08:49:21 PM
Having made a very nice profit in 3 months on Bitcoin purchased through etoro,ending up owning the imaginary equivalent of  nearly 3 bitcoins ,  i wondered if i am better off buying actual bitcoins to own rather than using etoro, where you don't actually own any coins. With the hard fork coming up ,as i understand it ,  unless you actually own the bitcoin then there will be no free coins  allocated. So by staying on etoro i would get nothing .

I thought about withdrawing all my money and began the process of buying again through Kraken , but they are not accepting deposits from the UK . So can anyone offer some advice please?
I don't know what is the best exchanges for you because bitcoin price are diffrent in each exchanger maybe i only can give you advice on choosing a trusted exchange site because this is thing are more important than you choose an exchange site that offers lower prices but you will never can get bitcoin arrived to your wallet.
19  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: coinurl is it worth using or not ? on: October 22, 2017, 08:42:38 PM
what is members experience with them and have they found them to be a good ad network or not ?
do they pay ?   do they pay good ?   how often have they paid you if you have been paid ?
This site has been running for quite a while, you can get bitcoin from there by spreading shorten links. you do not have to worry about it because they will always pay you, if not mistaken they have a minimum limit to be able to withdraw.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Can trading be considered as gambling?? on: October 22, 2017, 08:38:36 PM
I think trading with gambling is 2 different activities, because trading certainly requires the ability and skills in the implementation and in need of accuracy in analyzing market prices, while gambling can be done even without the ability and adequate skills and sometimes hope will be a lucky only.though both are equally risking money to make a profit, but trading has an object in trading while gambling only has money in the bet is not in the trade.
Yeah exactly, too many people misunderstand the intent of these two things. they think trading is like gambling, it's because there is money at stake without thinking another things. for example: in trading we can stop anytime after profit and also vice versa, it's diffrent with gambling we have to wait game finished to know win or lose.
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