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1  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: What makes a crypto project reliable and trustworthy ? on: June 01, 2023, 02:11:10 AM
I think all crypto investments are objective. No one can really be trusted. It all depends on how and what kind of investment model you like. I've done research and investing several times and the lesson I've learned is to do it all at your own risk. Better to lose $100 on your choice than to lose $10 on someone else's choice. Smiley

Good point. Every decision we make, every plan we implement has to be based on our own risk level.t There is no universal standard for any investment and all we have to do is do all on our own and at our risk. Losing money, at least in the beginning, is actually not a bad thing but a valuable lesson that everyone must learn in life. In this sense, the topic in the thread is objective and "reliable" or "trustworthy" is better explained in detail as we speak in different scenarios.
2  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Too good to be true? on: May 31, 2023, 02:52:49 AM
Is it possible to invest 100$ in altcoin and turn to 7,000$? Have this ever happened to anyone on here? Is this even possible?.

It depends what altcoin you are going to invest to and how long you will hold it. I believe it's possible but it's hard to spot what altcoin is going to give you that return. Just think of $BNB, it was less than a dollar few years ago and look at its price now. No one would've thought it will reach its current price now and I don't know if there is someone able to hold and sold when it hit 3-digit price. Making it possible would feel like hitting the jackpot on the lottery.

Well, questions like this are always easy to answer but extremely difficult to do. 1000 times profit is not impossible but the question soly lies in how to spot the right project that can turn that into reality. I am sure lots of people can make a long list of what makes a project reliable and sucessful but how to distinguish the right project before it succeeds is the key. Very few people are able to acquire this ability. That's the truth.
3  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Do you like Meme Coins (Pepes project)? on: May 31, 2023, 02:03:15 AM
Pepe has a problem With Intelectual Property. I Think someday there is problem with this token. may be
Don't waiting too long, we can see now the problem of Pepe project don't have any utilty. As they said on website development of project growth is pure from community, as meme coin they don't need utility but only community. Homever pepe coin still have opportunity because they have community will be growth in the future. Always DYOR and you should know meme coin is the most High risk than other coin. Take profit when you achieve percentage that you want

Agreed. Pepe is not an exception among memecoins with high risks. The hype of Pepe is coming to an end and those people who have invested at the price peak will lose huge once the hype is gone. As meme coins, they don't need utility but only community, which is absolutely true. I tend to see memecoins from the perspective of making easy money with enormously high risks rather than a solid project with utility. Sell out for profits once the price reaches your target. It is always great for us to view these projects objectively.
4  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Not all new Projects are bad, So take the Risk on: May 27, 2023, 09:33:05 AM
I came across a post where an advise was ditch out
for newbies like myself not to get involved in new projects,
due to the risk that follows.

But with all honestly, Some project with 3 to 7 months old have one time becomes Scam, Good  example is OKS CHAIN. The project was over 2 years old, yet end up being scam, as the CEO and other dev cart away with so much money. And abandoned the project.

My experience tells me that everything involves around crypto project, Is about risk, except for the president of them all ( Bitcoin ), The vice ( Ethereum ) and the child ( Binance ). Investing in any of these 3 gives risk free system. As they say experience is the best teacher in life.

So i strongly disagreed with the term of " do not invest in a brand new project " to be risk free. A lot of new project has yielded x50
of my investment to me most of the time, What i usually do, Once they're up, i take off with my investment and interest. This is my experiences.
And i strongly believes by doing this, Will yield high success to everyone and also helps you to minimize the risk of lossing all your funds.

Agree with your point in general. Not all new projects are bad, so we'd better take the risk for profit. The question lies in how much risk you can take and whether you are willing to take it. If you do your own research on any new project and make a judgement that the project is going to be fine, at least for a while, then you are encouraged to invest in it and wait for the best outcome. Even if something bad happens and you are doomed to lose money, then learn the lesson and move on. However, if the risk is too much for you or anybody, being impulsive to invest is like committing suicide. Nobody should ever let emotions dictate their action. I am clear on this point and don't hesitate to invest if I find a new project that seems reliable.
5  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: why people are always interested in altcoins on: May 27, 2023, 08:44:07 AM

Recently I have started to invest in altcoins and may give you some clue. I don't see myself as an aggressive investor. In contrast, I am very cautious about every penney that I invest. To learn how to profit from altcoins, I have to go through the failed process and I know it well. That's why I have lost money since I bought altcoins like ETH. Well, to be precise, the prices dropped and the money has not been lost in real because I still hold the coins and hopefully wait for the next bull run. Are I reasonable ? Hard to say now but one lesson that I have learned from this is that I am experiencing the market for real and trying to figure out a way to profit. Am I going to continue to lose money ? Probably yes. Am I regretting the investment ? Hell no. As long as the investment is affordale to lose, I am fine with all market situations. Altcoins are a great test for learning the real market. That's my personal reason for being interested in them.
6  Economy / Economics / Re: Does a side job/business improve your finanical stability ? on: May 26, 2023, 03:23:38 AM

To make a living, we must work. In uncertain days like now facing the global economic downturn, a stable job with high income becomes a scarcity. A side job or business seems like more necessary than ever, which can minimize the risks of losing your current job, ending up pennyless. However, a side job/business also takes time and efforts and can never be attained whenever we need it. What did you do or will you do in order to ensure your finanical stability despite all unfavorable circumstances ?
I don't understand how the last part of your post relates to the very topic of this conversation but whatever. Let's talk about the viability of a side-hustle.

Not all side-hustles are as profitable as you think. Just cause you got a second job doesn't mean you're out of the woods now and you can just live lavishly. There's a couple of factors that would affect how great this side-hustle of yours is, and I call the main factor the Money-over-Effort variation.

Money-over-Effort Variation just goes like this. Take a calculator, and divide your average daily earnings to how much time in hours that you spend on your side job. Now, check your main job's hourly rate. If it's 50% or higher, then you have a pretty solid side-job and I suggest you keep it. Anything below 50% to me is a complete waste of time and shouldn't be pursued, cause you could be using that time to work for more valuable ventures and you're wasting it over a side-hustle that pays you peanuts.

This doesn't necessarily apply to businesses, especially if you're just starting up. But for everything else, this is a pretty good gauge of how well you're gonna be with having 2 jobs. Time is your main currency here and you can't be wasting too much of it over lost causes and fruitless labor.

This gauge helps you determine how valuable your time is for you. Resilience will not get you anywhere especially in the corporate world, it's going to eat you alive and will leave you a soulless corpse of an employee, who'd rather just stay as a number that's replaceable when you die over having a full life and a self-worth to boot.

Although I don't agree with everything you said but your last paragraph made an excellent point with which I totally agree. Time is our most precious and valueable asset that we should spend very carefully. Anyone who is not thinking about their future and just focusing on being an employee will end up bad when companies go under. To consider and live a full life with self-worth is essentially a question to think before we live, not a goal or consequence that is far away from the current moment.



7  Economy / Economics / Are we headed to a nowhere economic direction ? on: May 17, 2023, 07:52:20 AM

In my country over the past few months, the interest rates have been declining. Our government aims to stimulate the economy through a set of financial policies but there seems to be less effective than before. Under the backdrop of the global economic recession, no government will be able to outperform others easily. The dilemma we are facing now is that we are actually losing whether to spend the few money we have at hands or to save it in banks for less and less interest. Real estate is collapsing and even the rich people have no options to invest.

Personally I have invested in cryptocurrencies but due to the current market, there is no sign that I will profit any time soon, so I guess the result of the investment remains unknown. Although I still have steady income from my job, uncertainties will not diminish as I hope for a stable feed for my family and for savings as much as possible. What is your situation in your country ? Are you going to experience some economic turmoil as well ? Please let me know.
8  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving one third what you earn monthly is not that hard, isn't it ? on: May 16, 2023, 09:31:32 AM
Saving is part of my life and I have never seen it as an impossible task that needs to be done with efforts.
It should be good for you if you have multiple sources of income, but I don't know if you need to maintain a percentage of that amount each month. Even if saving is recommended, but I don't think it's necessary to have a special percentage in doing so and just do how many you can save.

If you insist on saving a certain amount each month then you may run into problems when your source of income dries up for one reason or another. This will definitely give you a lot of responsibility so that you can or should reduce your daily and monthly needs to get the percentage that you set. You can do it, but your method cannot adopted for other users.

But if we don't have a specific goal, it makes us more lethargic and lazy.  It is better to give a specific number because we will be more disciplined with ourselves to achieve that goal.  you are right that we apply it will make us more stressed in life but that savings will come in handy in your emergency.  i also like to impose a specific number when it comes to saving and investing, which will help me reach my goal quickly rather than dragging on and never completing it.
You are right - life without a goal is a wasted life
I wasted my life not setting a goal - and had been a complete failure
Setting a goal is very important 

Setting a goal is truly important, especially when it comes to goals with responsibility. Take me as an example, before I got married, everything was responsibility-free and to be honest, I did not think much about my life. After my daughter was born, I started changing. I began to set both financial and life goals and then strived to achieve them with all my best. I am thankful that all the goals are like anchors to my life, transforming me to be a better man. Sometimes we have to admit that goals are blessings. It is never too late to set a goal. Please put together and live your life to the most extent. All the best to you, man.
9  Economy / Economics / Re: Success is fundamentally determined by luck, not effort. on: May 16, 2023, 01:58:19 AM
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For me, luck is like 50/50 so we better not depend on it. Let's say that a hard worker has much bad luck in life, he will continue to live normally or a little below that line compared to a lazy person with strings of bad luck in life.

No one says you depend on or rely on luck for success. First, you need to work and try your best, and if fate gives you the opportunity plus tireless efforts, you will succeed. Luck is just one of many factors that help us succeed, it is not the key to our success.
People who get a large amount of money through luck, like winning the lottery, and if they don't work hard, they will also become poor quickly.

“Luck is just one of many factors that help us succeed, it is not the key to our success.” On the contrary, luck is the key to our success although there are many factors that contribute to success. Anything that is successfully done can be copied except luck. I believe you are quite a hard worker but what you may lack is just luck. Speaking of your winning a lottery case and losing money quickly if mishandled, that’s a perfect example for what comes around goes around, it has nothing to do with “success” or “hard work”.

10  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving one third what you earn monthly is not that hard, isn't it ? on: May 15, 2023, 09:55:46 AM
If you are in twenties or early thirties and remain single, earn $3,000 after tax per month, you will probably save $1,000 if you, let's say, spend $500 to $800 on rental, a guest bedroom in a shared house/apartment, $500 on food, $50  on utilities, $150 on phone/internet bills, $400 on commuting costs or gas/maintainance if you have a used car, $200 on occasional entertainment or others. This $1,000 savings will allow you to invest or place a house down payment when time is ripe. Is this possible based on where you live ?
A man can never accumulate as much money as he can save without saving. In the area where I live, some relatively poor people save some money as a few members every month for a particular festival. Eevery month they make a rule to save that money, after a year they divide the money equally among all, as a result of which it can be seen that at the end of the year they accumulate a very good amount of savings and the festival they save is very good.
I can observe  That is, I liked their communication medium very much and then I realized that it is possible to accumulate a lot of money by saving. 

In your case also, if you save a part of your monthly salary, it will be seen that after a certain period of time, you will have accumulated a lot of money in your savings account.

Saving is part of my life and I have never seen it as an impossible task that needs to be done with efforts. It just flows so naturally in my life so of course, I have saved a lot of money over the years. What most people don't understand is not the amount of money that one can save, it is the discipline that guides me to save that really makes me feel great. I hope more people will understand what I am talking about.
11  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving one third what you earn monthly is not that hard, isn't it ? on: May 11, 2023, 08:54:07 AM
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Sorry for my previous reply. You are right that I did not get your point previously. I was on a business trip and lost some sleep for transit. Apologies for the misunderstanding. Well, not everyone can save 1/3 and this is a brutal fact, but I assumed that for some people, at least for those on this forum, monthly income will not be that low and savings must be an option because if not, how come many of us are discussing investment on the forum ? Therefore, I started this thread to talk about the possibility of saving that much. It is OK if people disagree as I know this only applies to some certain people. By the way, glad to hear that you've made plentiful savings. I am also in the category Grin


It is very nice to communicate with a cultured person, thank you!
Fatigue and insomnia sometimes give such special effects, with perception ... In general, the situation is very familiar Smiley

Yes, I will repeat once again - yes, unfortunately, our world is not organized very correctly ... I have visited many countries, almost all continents, and unfortunately, I have often seen that people's lives can hardly be called secure ... This very unpleasant to see. And the saddest thing is that I do not see a real and global solution to the problem of poverty.


Thanks for your kind reply. Well, I’ve also traveled almost all continents and do share your view on poverty. Poverty is indeed a global issue faced by all governments and their citizens but the worse part is that the gap between the rich and poor deepens the poverty issue. In many countries, the rich and ultra-rich people enjoy an insanely lavish lifestyle while the poor are barely having food on table. We always picture a nation using its bright and prosperous image but how about those poor and dark sides ? The more I travel, the more I cherish my own life. As an individual, I can do nothing with eliminating poverty but will try my best to help those who are less fortunate as much as I can.




12  Other / Off-topic / To make a living always comes first on: May 10, 2023, 07:15:59 AM
I have been traveling abroad lately, which is the first time I have traveled since the pandemic broke out. Everything feels familiar and yet nothing has been the same: there are still many people wearing a face mask, social distance becomes a norm nowadays. I noticed one thing seems to be more crucial than ever: everyone is trying their best to make a living.

The country I am traveling in now is neither developed nor poor. The standard of living is quite affordable compared to western countries’ but does not mean low compared with many poor countries’. In my spare time, I talked to the locals about their life and they all try their best to keep the job they have now or try to find a side hustle to make a living.  Many of them are living paycheck to paycheck without savings.

I calculated their income and living expenses on average and find out that if there is no money inherited from parents, a young man can barely afford a house or a car, all he can do is try to work to meet ends meet.

I have passed the stage of life to buy expensive things to show off and really come to appreciate the importance of making a living in whatever economic situation. I respect all those who are trying hard to make life easier. What are your thoughts about making a living ? Is it hard or easy in your home country ? Please let me know.
13  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving one third what you earn monthly is not that hard, isn't it ? on: May 09, 2023, 02:14:09 AM
I guess you have never saved 1/3 your monthly income before. As you said, taking and allocating 1/3 from the monthly income is not difficult, so the only question here is whether you can implement it. Ever since I was a single young graduate, I have managed to save at least 1/3 my monthly income, even after I got married. Just because you can’t save much means other people can’t do that either or logically it is wrong ? Same as keeping fit, that you can’t get disciplined to exercise regularly every day and control the intake of calories does not mean other people can not do the difficult task.


I have a feeling that you did not understand me at all!
I'm talking about the fact that just not everyone can save 1/3, because I assume that a significant part of the world's population does not have income that will allow them to save 1/3 painlessly for life. That's exactly what I meant.

About my approaches to the formation of a financial cushion:
Until 2019 - of the total income, I saved about 25-40% in the form of diversified investments (fiat, crypto, ...)

In 2019-2020, I was saving about 10% -20% per year, because. a significant part of the income went to repair and preparation (appliances / furniture / ...) in a new apartment.

Now there is a war in my country, and for 2 years I have not traveled to other countries, which I used to do several times a year, and now I have temporarily lost another expense item, which allows me to put more money into the "financial pillow".

PS About sports in general, it turns out funny - almost 25 years of sports, now I regularly maintain the form Smiley

Sorry for my previous reply. You are right that I did not get your point previously. I was on a business trip and lost some sleep for transit. Apologies for the  misunderstanding. Well, not everyone can save 1/3 and this is a brutal fact, but I assumed that for some people, at least for those on this forum, monthly income will not be that low and savings must be an option because if not, how come many of us are discussing investment on the forum ? Therefore, I started this thread to talk about the possibility of saving that much. It is OK if people disagree as I know this only applies to some certain people. By the way, glad to hear that you’ve made plentiful savings. I am also in the category  Grin






14  Economy / Economics / Re: Saving one third what you earn monthly is not that hard, isn't it ? on: May 08, 2023, 03:07:05 AM
I would definitely divide this question into several parts in this topic.
1. At what level of income, per 1 person in your family, it is possible to accumulate savings
2. Is it possible to set aside savings if you have one job and no investments, passive income and other sources of income.
3. How best to store deferred savings

Regarding the first part, I explain - just taking and allocating 1/3 from the amount of income is not mathematically difficult. The question is - how much does this income cover the needs of life? If this money is not enough or "a stretch" is enough to support yourself or your family - what kind of savings can we talk about?

I guess you have never saved 1/3 your monthly income before. As you said, taking and allocating 1/3 from the monthly income is not difficult, so the only question here is whether you can implement it. Ever since I was a single young graduate, I have managed to save at least 1/3 my monthly income, even after I got married. Just because you can’t save much means other people can’t do that either or logically it is wrong ? Same as keeping fit, that you can’t get disciplined to exercise regularly every day and control the intake of calories does not mean other people can not do the difficult task.
15  Other / Off-topic / Re: Prepare for the life when you get old on: May 08, 2023, 02:29:51 AM

Yeah right. without discipline in managing finances then everything will not work. Because the important point is when we have made a plan, and then we carry out the plan with high discipline.

And actually if we are married, the role of our partner in supporting us in financial management is also an important thing that can be relied on. But that applies if our partner also has the same thoughts about planning for old age. But if our partner is not good at saving then sometimes it can be a problem for us. because when we save with all our might but our partner doesn't do it. it will also be difficult for us to be disciplined and successful. The point is to start by trying to align our intentions and goals with our partner so that they are the same. or we have to teach them how important it is to prepare early on financial matters for our old age.
Discipline, discipline, discipline... the financial mantra, right? But come on, who truly relishes penny-pinching? Yeah, future planning is vital, but what about the here and now? Can't we indulge without remorse? Partners and finances? A different beast. A money-wise partner? Fantastic. But what if they're not? Do we dump our ambitions, surrender to their spending?

Navigating relationship finances is like solving a cryptic puzzle. Compromise, dialogue, and boatloads of patience are needed. But remember, your financial aims matter as much as your partner's. Find that equilibrium, folks. Believe me
this is more than just a spell for me. Even I have managed to build a house for my family. Because I hold the principle of discipline in managing finances consistently.
and come on guys being disciplined doesn't mean we take away the fun. even I still actively bet in games and buy things that I like. I even occasionally go on vacation with my family to the beach and places I want to visit. it's just that everything is well organized and managed. so there is a limit in spending adjusted between for pleasure and for savings and for investment.

this is the importance of managing finances well. so that we can keep having fun and also keep building a better future at the same time.
When I get the pinnacle of success because I have done true financial discipline I will definitely be as successful as you guys. I can also do what the financially successful do. But right now, I have to fight the obstacles in order for me to fully achieve that discipline. It's also right that my partner and I should talk properly about things and things to do in order to have good results in the future. It's really hard to be the only one exercising discipline especially when it comes to finances.

Talking with your partner and discussing everything is very important. Because we really have to manage finances well together with our partners. So that everything will be lighter if done together. But talking to your partner is sometimes not an easy matter. Sometimes we and our partners have different opinions. so that was where the obstacle that I had previously gone through and needed patience until finally my partner understood and started managing finances well together.


Talking to your partner is easy but persuading her to be disciplined is almost impossible, especially when it comes to finances. I have experienced that phase and have to admit that sometimes giving up persuasion is much easier and more effective than changing her mindset to be disciplined on finances or anything. Saving enough for the old age is a privilege that one can strive to have no matter how lowly he or she might start. I am not going to details into managing finances in this thread but the most important factor here is discipline and consistency.



16  Other / Off-topic / Re: Prepare for the life when you get old on: April 27, 2023, 06:41:41 AM
Getting old doesn't mean you won't work anymore.  I think I will do something when I retire, a job that I love.  If I don't do anything I will quickly get older.  This I learned from the old people in the village.

Family finance is difficult to describe.  It depends on our own spending.  If possible, create food by growing your own vegetables and raising animals like chickens, ducks and pigs.

Always have some money in the bank is the best way to deal with the unexpected.
agree, after retiring does not mean not doing activities anymore because by continuing to want to not quickly become forgetful (old) then we have to continue to train our minds with usual activities and what we like, then we will stay fit and well maintained.
finances can continue to decrease if you don't do odd jobs which can at least reduce expenses, because relying on interest from the bank from existing savings certainly cannot be sufficient, or as you do by creating jobs by growing vegetables and animals it will at least reduce the costs incurred might be issued.

Money may be the most important thing, but it's not everything.  We need to prepare our attitude, health, psychology, relationships and other things in our heads.  Better preparation will help us anticipate risks.  When we are young, we have health, parents and friends will help us, but when we are old, we will only be able to rely on ourselves.

It takes planning and healthy habits so that old age is not a dead end.

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Money should not be treated as an end in itself. Money is a financial tool (which I have repeatedly repeated) that can and should be used to improve your life, both at the present moment and when old age comes. But keeping them until old age is an unreasonable decision, because by that time it will depreciate significantly. It would be interesting to know if it makes sense to keep bitcoin until old age.

In old age, you can count on your children or they will count on you. Here, how it goes.

A carefree and wasteful life in youth will surely punish in old age, and therefore, one can't do without strategic planning and some restrictions.

Excellent point on that money is a financial tool that can and should be used to improve your life, both at the present moment and when old age comes. Most people go extreme ways to both sides or simply we make mistakes about financial management. I am also thinking about this issue lately and hope to find a better way to make the use of money and live a better life. So glad to read your comment today. Thanks.

17  Economy / Economics / Re: Is some certain lifestyle a waste of money and time ? on: April 27, 2023, 06:32:43 AM

Here is what happens to my friends and me and I am sure this is a reflection on different financial values and life attitude in general. Well, I don't drink any alchohol while a few friends of mine love drinking very much. They would gather to have dinner/drink almost every day(at least four times a week). I am often invited but due to my no-drinking habit, I usually turn the invitation down. We are all family men but they are a few years older than me. Their children are much older than my kid so probably they don't need their fathers' attention and time. I always put my family first so this is also one of the reasons I don't join them that frequently. Financially, every gathering meal/drinking is not cheap because it involves a lot of drinks and dishes. The average cost of such dinner/drinking is equivalent to 1/5 the average monthly income in the city where we live. So every month, the cost for these "gatherings" consumes all the income that a man can earn for months. This is considered a huge waste of money in many people's eyes cause most people don't earn much. Although I don't drink, occasionally I will treat them and pay the bills for the guesture of friendliness. Do you think my friends' lifestyle is a waste of money and time ? How much do you spend on such gatherings on average ? Please let me know.
It is their choice, you can give them advice on what to do instead of doing that but the thing after that you have done your part, they need to take care of their actions. honestly it is their money, you need to understand that giving them too much attention will not give you peace at all, just do your part as a friend. Not all people are the same like us or you , investing instead of drinking

You are right. Recently I have not joined them in those gatherings over a month and everything seems to be all right. I still occasionally advise them that drinking too much is bad for their health and also because some of them have got minor problems like high blood pressure, they tend to reduce the gatherings lately. Anyway, everyone is seeking their own way to live comfortably.
18  Economy / Economics / Re: What is your biggest obstacle to achieving financial freedom ? on: April 27, 2023, 06:19:52 AM
~ That's what I wanted to say, don't be dependent on others' support. If you feel lack of knowledge in the field that you are passionate about, use the internet to find the knowledge there. Although many courses require payment, there are free courses that can give you what you need. Just don't give up. Learn what you need. And you'll find a good job eventually and will be financially independent.

You need to be keen in finding the right information and yes there's always a way for free one you just need to be more resourceful, if you want to succeed you need to work it out even there are hardship and failures what matters is you are not giving up and you are really trying your best, we never know where success will come but the feeling of achieving it will be sweeter than anything else right?

Keep trying and keep experimenting. There's always the right way to follow and once you discover it, you'll be able to enhance it for good.

So, the biggest obstacle is not trying. The biggest obstacle is thinking that being financially dependent is your fate and you have to live with it. Today, when we have the internet around, this is never the case. Yes, it can take years of unsuccessful tires, but you will find what you are looking for eventually. If you don't have time, do it once in a week, but do it.
One step at the beginning is a difficult thing to do, but it's not as difficult to maintain what we have started. Try everything, even if we don't succeed after trying at least we will get a very valuable experience for the future. Don't be afraid to start and try, because if we can't do that we won't know what potential is within us, besides that keep learning and adding knowledge to ourselves, it will really help us. But now I see many people who are afraid to start, that's what makes it difficult to move from their comfort zone.

Well, the answer is yes, those who are in their comfort zone are afraid to explore for more, they are not willing to move forward as the chance of losing or failing is what they have in their mind, or they are not willing because they are already satisfied with how they live their life, the idea of pushing yourself to find a much better way to improve your lifestyle is not easy as we mentioned but it's doable if you find the venue for your financial success.

I share that same perspective in the sense of slow and difficult start, but once you manage to fill it up, maintaining will be easier, as long as you are keen to keep learning for more.

"Those who are in their comfort zone are afraid to explore for more, they are not willing to move forward as the chance of losing or failing is what they have in their mind...if you find the venue for your financial success.", this is much larger than something that applies to financial success. I picked this comment to reply simply because this is what I am going through at the moment. Long story short, I am facing a financial dilemma that may either lead to a much better financial outcome/independence or consume all big savings over so many years. The only thing that holds me back is indeed the "comfort zone" feeling. I don't feel like taking chances now as I have family to support. No high returns seem to be attractive than knowing every bill is paid up. To be honest, I hate this feeling but it is still good in everyone's interest if I choose not to take any risks. Oh, this is a headache.


19  Other / Off-topic / Re: Prepare for the life when you get old on: April 21, 2023, 09:24:20 AM
Yes, things and situations might be predestined for us but everyone has been given free will and that's the power that's given to us to change the situation that we're in whether it's good or bad. I know people that have lived miserably in the past and living good today and that's because of their decision but not everyone ends with that situation. There are those that are already happy and contented with what they have thus, they chose to continue living the hard way because even if they've got good plans, they lack of execution and following what they've planned for.

Yeah you're right mate but have you also thought about the essence of opportunity?
There are alot of persons who are physically, mentally, educationally and also emotionally prepared to change their life stories but unfortunately haven't gotten an opportunity to do so and you also think those persons lack executional plans? NO
Let's take for instance, everyone wants to own a house, possibly a big and very comfortable house, what should be the executional plan for someone who has sincerely tried everything humanly possibly but failed ?
There are people who are spiritually under a spell and no matter the perfect execution approach they have, they will never succeed,.
Do you now think those sort of persons don't want to improve their lives ?
I guess no because at the end I just believe success shines on those they choose to shine on even without most of them working quarter of what those struggling out their must have suffered.

Agreed. Opportunity is probably the most important element in success. No matter how well you are prepared, if you don't meet any opportunity, things will end up in failure inevitably. I usually correlate opportunity with luck because they are like twin brothers that can always turn things into magic. I like to take chances to find opportunities but it's like something that is predestined, you only have it if you life had it in the first place. Harsh truth.
20  Other / Off-topic / Re: Prepare for the life when you get old on: April 20, 2023, 02:24:59 AM
People no longer think if today but only think of tomorrow because it is a major priority of every human
So long as you alive
It's the opposite that I know of from the community that I'm living in. They think that we only live once and that's why they enjoy the things that they can enjoy today through pleasures and never think of what's about to happen by tomorrow. They never think about their future and that's why the most important thing to them is present which is actually true but their approach and way of demonstrating it is in the wrong ways.
Yeah, we only live once and that's why we need to prepare and be better with the future that's heading to once because we'll never know if the same ways of living will still be in the future or we can still enjoy by that time or we'll face a lot of troubles and problems because of our ignorance today in saving, investing and preparation.

Agreed and sad to see so many people misinterpret or try to distort the real meaning of it. I have no idea if there is any correlation between being rich and planning for the future but most rich people in my big family are very frugal and they always plan for the future. They don't complain about "live in the present", "enjoy the moment"  because they all have clear goal of what kind of life they are envisioning and how to get it. On the contrary, the less fortunate people who barely make ends meet tend to spend most spare money on leisure and keep saying "we only live once". I used to explain the meaning to them but not any more. It's just impossible. We only live the way we choose.
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