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2101  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: A Complete Guide to P2Pool - Merged Mining (BTC/NMC/DVC/IXC/I0C) plus LTC, Linux on: July 17, 2013, 05:13:27 AM

I was trying to find that for my install, but couldn't remember what it's called or where it's located. Thanks for the link!

So you are aware, there is a memory leak currently if you use the auto-refesh option.  It will eat all of your memory fairly quickly.

I decided to just fix it:
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This fixes it for me:
https://github.com/hardcpp/P2PoolExtendedFrontEnd/pull/17

For watchers, until this pull is merged, feel free to use my repo:
https://github.com/yrral86/P2PoolExtendedFrontEnd
2102  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: A Complete Guide to P2Pool - Merged Mining (BTC/NMC/DVC/IXC/I0C) plus LTC, Linux on: July 17, 2013, 04:11:38 AM
That highly depends on the browser...


I was trying to find that for my install, but couldn't remember what it's called or where it's located. Thanks for the link!

So you are aware, there is a memory leak currently if you use the auto-refesh option.  It will eat all of your memory fairly quickly.

According to the bug report[1] it affects firefox and chrome.

1. https://github.com/hardcpp/P2PoolExtendedFrontEnd/issues/5

I haven't tried firefox, but I can verify the issue is there with the latest Chrome on 64 bit Linux.
2103  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Pools (Altcoins) / Re: A Complete Guide to P2Pool - Merged Mining (BTC/NMC/DVC/IXC/I0C) plus LTC, Linux on: July 17, 2013, 03:35:49 AM

I was trying to find that for my install, but couldn't remember what it's called or where it's located. Thanks for the link!

So you are aware, there is a memory leak currently if you use the auto-refesh option.  It will eat all of your memory fairly quickly.
2104  Economy / Speculation / Re: SlipperySlope's Bubble Collapse Journal on: July 17, 2013, 03:00:24 AM
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I saw this in your other thread too: But why is your red line doing that? What are you 'connecting' with it? Looks cooked.

You can draw supports/resistances in different ways. One way is to only connect tops or bottoms of candles which gives you an outer bound of where you can expect the price to go or you draw an "internal trend line" by which you connect only closing/opening prices of candles. The second method gets rid of the variance that some outliers produce with big orders by shooting up or down only to return to the mean within the same candle.
The trend line would be considered broken if 2 or 3 full candles close outside of it.

Agreed on eliminating outliers, but the issue is the 24/7 nature of bitcoin.  There is no open and no close, and one can easily shift the candle definition to show different bodies.
2105  Economy / Speculation / Re: SlipperySlope's Bubble Collapse Journal on: July 17, 2013, 02:48:18 AM
Looks cooked.

It is cooked.

The trendline was broken.

Don't worry, his will break too.
2106  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: July 17, 2013, 02:41:41 AM
I'm not an idiot.  I canceled my withdrawals and transferred everything out in Bitcoin the day the withdrawal notice went up.

Not necessarily a bad idea.... depending on how close to the front of the queue you were.

I've seen several reports of funds being received in the past few days.

Where?

Several posts on these forums.... I'm too lazy to find them.  And of course, take forum posts with a grain of salt.
2107  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: looking for the next Bitcoin experience on: July 17, 2013, 02:06:30 AM
Try storing some btc in your brain: brainwallet.org
2108  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: looking for the next Bitcoin experience on: July 17, 2013, 02:03:24 AM
Get an ASIC.  Make MORE bitcoins  Cheesy

  • bought 6 USB miners (currently mining 3 using bitminter)
2109  Economy / Exchanges / Re: MtGox withdrawal delays [Gathering] on: July 17, 2013, 01:50:19 AM
Anyone else thinking of legal actions? MtGox has now stopped their support as well, it seems.

Certainly, yes! We customers have deposited a lot of money there, and that money cannot just evaporate. They can be frozen, ot stealen. MtGox should provide more info now!

How much more info do you need?

They explained they would shut down for a while.

They explained they are back with several new banks, but it will take a while to ramp up and to work through the backlog.

They explained new requests would not be processed until the backlog was handled.

Doesn't look like the backlog is being handled though...


I've seen several reports of funds being received in the past few days, but feel free to continue worrying.  It will remind you to be careful who you give your money to next time.
2110  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 17, 2013, 01:46:46 AM
You can only make money with money. Just like in the current financial system.

Bitcoin isn't a magic money machine.  That would be a scam.  Your statement is true no matter what the asset, so long as it is a real good.

The part you are missing though is time.  You can only accumulate value with labor.  It doesn't matter if it is shoveling rock or trading companies or assets.  Labor is the key here and no matter what you want to accumulate you need to invest your labor into accumulating it.

Which law of economics is that?  Grin

Warren Buffet doesn't have the bank account the size of a planet by working 7200 hours a day. Work smart.

Now back to your regularly scheduled wishing friedcat would let us know what was up and wondering why his node sucks.

First time I have mentioned it, ever.

Your as in the way a newscaster address the audience, although perhaps our would be clearer.  No need to get defensive.

"Your as in the way a newscaster address the audience, although perhaps our would be clearer" - that's not even close to English my friend. Go back to school or shovelling rocks.

Now back to OUR regularly scheduled "wishing friedcat would let us know what was up" and "wondering why his node sucks".

Does that make it clear?
2111  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.3.1 on: July 17, 2013, 01:43:34 AM
kano mentioned some time ago libusb might causing those issues and I guess he's on the spot. As far as I'm aware all miners reporting sick/zombie AMUs used a wheezy distribution. The wheezy libusb version is quite outdated. On the other hand e.g. Arch Linux is using a newer version and cgminer 3.2.x working fine as far as I can say. But just guessing. Wink

+1 for Arch

Edit: Not that you are one, but Arch Linux is not for Linux Newbies.  Please be comfortable with the command line before switching.
2112  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 17, 2013, 01:12:59 AM
You can only make money with money. Just like in the current financial system.

Bitcoin isn't a magic money machine.  That would be a scam.  Your statement is true no matter what the asset, so long as it is a real good.

The part you are missing though is time.  You can only accumulate value with labor.  It doesn't matter if it is shoveling rock or trading companies or assets.  Labor is the key here and no matter what you want to accumulate you need to invest your labor into accumulating it.

Which law of economics is that?  Grin

Warren Buffet doesn't have the bank account the size of a planet by working 7200 hours a day. Work smart.

Now back to your regularly scheduled wishing friedcat would let us know what was up and wondering why his node sucks.

First time I have mentioned it, ever.

Your as in the way a newscaster address the audience, although perhaps our would be clearer.  No need to get defensive.
2113  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 17, 2013, 01:12:05 AM

No matter which whale wins, there will be a feast.
2114  Economy / Speculation / Re: Wall Observer - MtGoxUSD wall movement tracker - Hardcore on: July 17, 2013, 01:05:37 AM

Well tried, but no.


two whales with opposing interests ?

Can there be so many whales in a small market like this?

two whales is not so many
2115  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 17, 2013, 01:04:36 AM
You can only make money with money. Just like in the current financial system.

Bitcoin isn't a magic money machine.  That would be a scam.  Your statement is true no matter what the asset, so long as it is a real good.

The part you are missing though is time.  You can only accumulate value with labor.  It doesn't matter if it is shoveling rock or trading companies or assets.  Labor is the key here and no matter what you want to accumulate you need to invest your labor into accumulating it.

Which law of economics is that?  Grin

Warren Buffet doesn't have the bank account the size of a planet by working 7200 hours a day. Work smart.

This is off topic, but he has certainly spent his share of time studying his potential investments.  Yes, work smart.  But you still have to work.

Now back to your regularly scheduled wishing friedcat would let us know what was up and wondering why his node sucks.
2116  Economy / Securities / Re: ASICMINER: Entering the Future of ASIC Mining by Inventing It on: July 17, 2013, 12:57:00 AM
I've been thinking about the low number of transactions per block issue and the assumption that we aren't a very well connected node.  This made me realize that if we aren't a very well connected node, then our orphaned block rate would be higher than normal as others finding blocks around the same time will be quicker to 'spread the news' and will therefore be the winner.

I then checked the blockchain.info orphaned block page https://blockchain.info/orphaned-blocks and sure enough, a high percentage of orphaned blocks are from AsicMiner.

I haven't run the numbers but I have a feeling that we are leaving a HUGE amount of bitcoin on the table.

Not only are we missing out on a huge amount of transaction fee's, but we're solving blocks that we aren't even getting credit for.  It seems to me that peering off a well connected node should be a simple fix.

And once again I'm wondering if friedcat should look into p2pool.  Even though getting better connected shouldn't be hard, with p2pool you have 2 different p2p networks that should each broadcast your blocks/transactions giving you even lower latency.
2117  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.3.1 on: July 17, 2013, 12:08:30 AM
I've had a similar problem with cgminer 3.3.2

There's a 3.3.2?  I'm still using 3.3.1, which is working great for me with USB Erupters.  Of course I only have 15 of them with USB 2.0 Hubs.

Opps I think I meant 3.3.1, but mostly I meant latest master from github (805672fb51f4219e8c5848dc761509d32bffde9f -- I think it identifies itself as 3.3.2, sorry I forgot it wasn't released yet). I tried master from github first when I couldn't get 3.3.1 to work. I was about to blame the hub when I decided to try building 3.1.1 as a hail mary.

They're still working on the USB 3.0 Hub support.  Which was the reason I bought USB 2.0 Hubs.

Glad your working at least.
Sam

For me USB 3.0 hubs do not work in USB 3.0 slots, but if I plug them into USB 2.0 slots they work fine.  It might be worth a try if you already have the hardware.

Oh, right. I forgot to mention that I excluded the hub as the problem before going to 3.1.1 by reproducing the findings with the USB Eruptors plugged in directly to the computer. I observed the same behavior where individually they work fine but if two were installed each device would mine for a bit and then enter into some sort of standby mode with solid leds (they don't both enter that state at the same time--one will get there sooner than the other). Then after a few seconds both will start hashing again simultaneously. That pattern just keeps repeating itself. I didn't time it but my guess is ~15-30sec. The computer itself is an Celeron-based Intel NUC that only has USB 2.0 ports.

I don't know if it matters but the the second miner came from BTCguild and was "branded" (I assume via the Luke-JR method) but the first comes from CanaryInTheMine and is unbranded. The udev rules didn't care.

Looking back through the logs did finally notice one thing. When running the 3.2.x or github version, this happens once per reboot when cgminer is starting up:

Jul 16 00:47:02 ohms kernel: [   10.527272] cp210x ttyUSB0: cp210x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB0
Jul 16 00:47:02 ohms kernel: [   10.527304] cp210x 2-1.1.2:1.0: device disconnected
Jul 16 00:47:02 ohms kernel: [   10.588515] cp210x ttyUSB1: cp210x converter now disconnected from ttyUSB1
Jul 16 00:47:02 ohms kernel: [   10.588549] cp210x 2-1.1.4:1.0: device disconnected

When this happens /dev/ttyUSB0 and /dev/ttyUSB1 disappear and never return. But cgminer 3.2.x is still able to hash in spurts. I had to reboot to get 3.1.1 to work.

3.2+ is doing that.  It no longer uses the ttyUSB devices so it removes them to disable the driver so that cgminer can use raw USB through libusb.
2118  Economy / Speculation / Re: It's going to blow... on: July 17, 2013, 12:05:27 AM
5.  MtGox gets caught back up on USD withdrawals.

You should have probably stopped there.

This is a long term plan with several iterations of 1-4.

I agree 5 will take 1 - 1.5 months from today.
2119  Economy / Speculation / Re: Where will we be in 90 days? on: July 17, 2013, 12:02:51 AM
Everyone, cryptocurrency needs 2 more things at this exact moment for it to even hit that 450 dollar mark ol boy mentioned earlier:

1 Much MUCH more attention - Cryptocurrency is STILL not very mainstream.  Some people here and there in passing mention it, but it isn't widely known yet...which leads us to the second (LARGER) problem of

2 adoption.  I guarantee you that if 20% of the fortune 100 Commerce were to switch over and allow bit-coin in addition to Credit cards for both online and for in store transactions, that it would A) increase in awareness, B) rise in popularity as there is now a different way to establish and trade your digital value for goods with real "inherent value" 


At this point in time, btc and other alt coin prices are purely driven by consumer speculation and the supply and demand of feeding that speculation with available alt-coins for sell. 

Large businesses will not switch until they have a means of hedging.  They are not going to pay someone like bitpay to convert for them when they can cut out the fees.  However, they don't want currency risk, so they need to hedge.  While icbit.se and bitfinex might be acceptable to some in the community, it would not fly with a major corporation.  When the Bitcoin backed ETF becomes available an options market will develop that will allow them to hedge their risk.  Once this market develops some decent liquidity we will see the fish we land start to grow until we finally land our first whale.
2120  Bitcoin / Mining software (miners) / Re: CGMINER ASIC FPGA GPU overc monit fanspd RPC linux/win/osx/mip/r-pi 3.3.1 on: July 16, 2013, 11:45:21 PM
I've had a similar problem with cgminer 3.3.2

There's a 3.3.2?  I'm still using 3.3.1, which is working great for me with USB Erupters.  Of course I only have 15 of them with USB 2.0 Hubs.

Opps I think I meant 3.3.1, but mostly I meant latest master from github (805672fb51f4219e8c5848dc761509d32bffde9f -- I think it identifies itself as 3.3.2, sorry I forgot it wasn't released yet). I tried master from github first when I couldn't get 3.3.1 to work. I was about to blame the hub when I decided to try building 3.1.1 as a hail mary.

They're still working on the USB 3.0 Hub support.  Which was the reason I bought USB 2.0 Hubs.

Glad your working at least.
Sam

For me USB 3.0 hubs do not work in USB 3.0 slots, but if I plug them into USB 2.0 slots they work fine.  It might be worth a try if you already have the hardware.
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