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41  Bitcoin / Project Development / Re: Timestamping documents with the blockchain on: March 03, 2020, 09:45:58 AM
Quote from: Harlot
I can recommend you anything aside from developing your own blockchain for the purposes of time stamping  your documents.

That is a bad idea, you do know that he will be able to manipulate the data whenever he wishes right? Centralized blockchain is just another database which can be mutated whenever the company wishes...  It just saves them the trouble of syncing the data across multiple servers... Wouldn't recommend.

@Paleus follow what @joniboini has suggested it's the best way IMO. Check this thread out on to do it: https://www.reddit.com/r/btc/comments/49pp3n/eli5_how_to_embed_text_into_a_bitcoin_transaction/

There is a website called: https://www.proofofexistence.com which does exactly what you are looking for but you can do it for free by reading the thread I linked above.
42  Other / Meta / Re: [QUERY] How to create an infographic in this community? on: March 03, 2020, 07:54:37 AM
There is a size limit of 2 MB for each image you can insert. If you go above this limit your images will result in an error. If you are going for a large infographic this amount is too low. I have created several posts in the past which involved infographics and animated gifs, what @TryNinja has suggested is the trick to create "beautiful infographics" on bitcointalk. If you are working on adobe illustrator try adding up more Artboards and splitting up the infographic. Export them separately and you can them insert them like this.

Code:
[img]URL of 1st piece[/img]
[img]URL of 2nd piece[/img]

It will come out as if they are single one big infographic. Check this post as reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5181918 , Use the quote button and you will see how I designed it with the BBcode. If you really want to get creative you can mess around with code even further. E.G This code will horizontally link 2 separate images.

Code:
[img]URL of 1st piece[/img][img]URL of 2nd piece[/img]

As for the width, it varies what resolution you are targetting. For example if you are targetting the 1080p resolution then 1529 px is your figure this scales well on even 2k resolution... Otherwise, you can use this formula to calculate the appropriate width for the resolution you want to target... 

Code:
0.7963 * Width of resolution you are targetting

This should give you the width in pixels for the resolution you are targetting. Please do keep in mind if you are going to join two images horizontally with a higher resolution than 1080p then it won't work on the lower resolutions. Your images will keep dropping to the new line. E.G Let's say you are targetting the 1440p resolution and your image width is 2560px, if this was split between two horizontal images, each image's width will be 1280px. The issue is the image right across it will drop on the new line, it won't scale well on the 1080p resolution. However, if it's a single image of 2560px, it will scale well even on 1080p and lower...

Feel free to ask me anything, I will be more than happy to help...
43  Other / Archival / t on: March 03, 2020, 07:49:17 AM
44  Economy / Scam Accusations / Re: Fortunejack refusing to pay 5 BTC *STAY FAR AWAY* on: March 03, 2020, 06:47:53 AM
Quote from: andulolika
I never imagined FJ has such stupid rules

Well, believe it or not, this is the industry-standard... So there is no point in singling out FJ. Most of these casinos/bookmakers try to protect themselves against abuse of bonus offers / Promotions which they run. I was pretty shocked how these casinos/bookmakers have got away with it so far TBH... There are no regulatory bodies which protect the recreational punters... Given this is a multi-billion dollar industry I'm baffled why the governments haven't regulated them so far... I guess it has something to do with lobbying but I'm merely speculating at this point... Anyway, I started a discussion recently and unfortunately what I have learned so far is that there is a massive gap in the market and people usually don't give a shit about their privacy as they aren't informed enough about why their privacy matters...
45  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Multi-accounts, the industry-standard and KYC. on: March 03, 2020, 06:32:48 AM
Quote from: o_e_l_e_o
That's part of the problem, sure, but another part is that many have little desire to learn.

The way I see it, they don't see cases of stolen identity on the media for that reason alone they might not have the desire to learn about this subject. Let's be honest people only care about things which they have seen on the media or if they hear about it from someone who they 'trust'... When is the last time you heard about a case of stolen identity on media or from a person you trust? The reason why they are spamming for bounties is that they have heard that there is an easy to make money... No one wakes up and gets a revelation about an internet forum where they can make easy money by simply posting on their social media handles... The information is passed on to them and this is what is lacking I believe for the subject of privacy. E.G I had never heard about the case of Anastasia... I haven't even heard about a single case of stolen identity in my entire life so far...

So yeah I still believe, we need to play a part in educating these people... Theymos's course idea comes to my mind when I think about it... There should be a whole board dedicated privacy IMO... how to handle your privacy both online and offline and why it is important... I remember reading an article about Jameson Lopp how he basically created a new identity from scratch... Basically what I am trying to say is we need to talk about it more so more and more people become aware about this subject and I believe bitcointalk can play an essential role in doing that...
46  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-03-02] Mike Novogratz Explains Why Bitcoin (BTC) Is Failing as Safe Haven on: March 03, 2020, 02:44:11 AM
Quote from: LeGaulois
Vaccine where? I read it may be available in a few months only, and up to now 3000 persons died and 80k are infected...In a few months, a lot of things can happen

Australia as of last time I checked... I'm not reading much from random sources, I'm following "Doctor Mike" on youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC0QHWhjbe5fGJEPz3sVb6nw/videos Do check the guy out... He puts out all the official sources he is quoting his stuff from... The "fatality rate" of covid-19 is less than of Original SARS... Some people have already been found to be immune to it so that's that as well. I dunno the technical terms but their blood is also being tested to why they have this immunity. It won't cause the end of the world that I'm willing to bet on... #AlertNotAnxious.

Quote from: bbc.reporter
However, it is also being hypocritical of us that we base the value of bitcoin on the unsafe, inflated dollar.

Lol! You do know that 45% of the world isn't connected to the internet right?... Last time I checked Bitcoin wasn't the "global reserve currency" and we don't have the adoption rate where things can be pegged against bitcoin directly... Right now the global economy is based on FIAT be it Dollar, yen or Euro, Until these scams fade away cryptocurrencies are the last thing we will peg our 'goods' against... there is nothing 'hypocritical' of 'us' for valuing Bitcoin on the unsafe, inflated dollar. Just shows our adaptability  Cheesy
47  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2020-03-02] Mike Novogratz Explains Why Bitcoin (BTC) Is Failing as Safe Haven on: March 02, 2020, 07:42:20 AM
Quote from: cr1776
Anyone who thinks cash or bonds are a safe Haven is ignoring the effect of inflation which will destroy all their value over time.

Exactly! Besides, it's being hypocritical. All these peeps do is brag about how your money should be 'working' for you 24/7. Your 'Cash' shouldn't be sitting in your bank accounts but rather should be invested and so on... and when there is a looming crisis on their head they eat up their own words... this shit is funny to watch...

When things go from bad, to very very bad like they did last week, investors take leverage down as fast as they can.

Lol, didn't know the world ended last week. I guess I might be the last 100 people surviving on this planet. "very very bad"? Bitch, it's equivalent of a 'common flu' and we already have vaccines which will be readily available to everyone within a few months. These guys love to spread FUD, don't they...  Also, I guess he doesn't follow bitcoin much. Fluctuations of +-$1000 are a common occurrence, this drop is coincidental at best given Bitcoin's history and I can back this up with data...

smdh... Another shit article...
48  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Map of Stores Accepting Bitcoin on: March 02, 2020, 05:54:03 AM
TBH I don't really see the point of these websites... I won't go on google and search for "Map of Stores Accepting Bitcoin" but rather I would search for something like this "buy groceries with Bitcoin in X city or country". I fail to see the use-case of these websites unless you just want to discover new stuff and there are far better ways of doing that...
49  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Multi-accounts, the industry-standard and KYC. on: March 02, 2020, 04:10:11 AM
Quote from: tyKiwanuka
Yes, correct. Most bookmakers/casinos are afraid of being bullied by governments; not only from their own jurisdiction. They either comply or put geo-restrictions for certain countries in place. But most of the time they comply, since with geo-restrictions, they lose their whole customers base of a certain country and by f.e. implementing KYC, they will only lose parts of them.

If this is the case isn't there a gap in the market for 'decentralized' bookmakers and casinos to exploit? I mean if the only reason they have KYC requirements is due to 'regulation' pressure than going the decentralized route should be the way... I mean there are already a few dice websites I have seen working with Smart Contracts on ethereum, I'm sure something can be developed for the bookies and other games... Makes me wonder how many TOR based casinos are out there or if any... I might make a list of sorts if I find some later down the line...

Also about people not caring about their privacy, one of the major reasons is they aren't educated about it and let's be honest here it's not their fault. No one gets taught in the school about how you should protect your privacy on the internet. I always sympathize with these people. I believe people can change and 'adapt' if they become aware of what they are putting on the line. Although I agree with you that there isn't a "gambling community" which can pressure these casinos, I still believe Bitcointalk can play its part. IMO we have got a pretty strong community here, many of shady casinos were exposed and tagged in the past if we want to spread awareness about privacy then certain steps can be taken. E.G free advertisement on the banner ad for 3 months for the casinos which teach their customers about how to protect their privacy and stuff. I'm sure we as a community can come up with plenty of ideas which are executable in the real world. It's a win-win scenario...

People get to learn about what they put on the line when they perform a KYC verification and Casinos/Bookmakers get free promotion in the biggest crypto community. First Casino/Bookmaker to drop the KYC requirement gets a whole year of free promotion or maybe a pinned post in the Gambling board... There are so many ideas popping up in my head right now... It's about time people start caring about their privacy...
50  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What if Bitcoin is used in direct value. on: March 01, 2020, 08:56:53 AM
Won't be happening time soon tbh. For things to be pegged against Bitcoin, it needs to become the global reserve currency of sorts and that would mean rewriting the economic books as we know them. A lot of people will lose a shit ton of power if this is to happen and unfortunately we can't do much about it at this point besides spreading the word. The main challenge at this point is the adoption as governments won't do shit till they are forced to make the change and this change can only be forced when bitcoin is being used by everyone. Just to give you a perspective, only around 55% of world population has access to the internet and the internet has been around for almost 3 decades while bitcoin has been around for around a decade. we have a long way to go before things are pegged against bitcoin directly without needing to exchange it to FIAT at the end of the day...
51  Other / Meta / Re: How can I increase my merit? on: March 01, 2020, 04:36:20 AM
Quote from: XenoFever
How can I increase my merit?

By stopping to think about it. Smiley
52  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Multi-accounts, the industry-standard and KYC. on: March 01, 2020, 02:22:11 AM
First of all, thank you all for participating in this discussion. I have really enjoyed reading what you guys have shared so far. I pretty much agree with what @tyKiwanuka said so far, the only point I will contest tho is the following...

Quote from: tyKiwanuka
And when you are able to make lets say 1,000,- with one identity, then people are willing to provide you with their identity, if you offer them 100,- for it. They can feed their kids with that money and don't care about possible consequences then.

TBH this is kinda stretching it... Most online FIAT casino's don't accept clients from developing economies so even if you get their Identity for let's say 100 bucks or so, it will be useless as it won't help you in your verification process. I did some googling and found on average it will cost you around 50 bucks to get your hands on a fake Utility bill. Given if you aren't handy with something like adobe illustrator it will cost you more to create multiple identities. A fake passport can cost anywhere from $250-$500 at least this is what I found via google, I'm sure there are many blackhat forums where you might be able to get your hands on a bit less, I still put the figure around the $200 mark for a single fake identity along with a utility bill.

I kinda agree with what @o_e_l_e_o has said regarding dropping the promotions/Bonuses. We have to keep in mind Cryptocurrienies aren't FIAT. They can't be printed out of thin air like FIAT nor they can be borrowed from an entity by pressing a few buttons. Dropping promotions/Bonuses seems to be the real solution here. It respects the values driving the cryptocurrencies and basically takes the power away from the casinos to screw over their clients... I see no reason why would a casino require a KYC, if they had no promotions or Bonuses. The users also need to respect these values, you can't expect 100% deposit bonuses for the reasons I have stated above...

It should be either you give up your privacy for these 'fake' bonuses on the FIAT casinos which you will most likely end up losing anyway or have your privacy by not expecting some crazy bonuses or promotions and these crypto casinos should try to adhere to these values. They should either foot the bill by offering these bonuses and promotions or drop them all together... We as a community need to stand together, we need to frown upon these 'crypto' casinos/bookmakers which require users to perform a KYC. Having to go through a KYC verification defeats the very purpose of using Cryptocurrencies in the first place... I dunno why as a community we have kind of submitted ourself to these requirements when actually we don't even have to give out the smallest detail like which browser we are using let alone perform a full KYC.

Thoughts?
53  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Story time! Lost coins & Regrets - Let's bring back a little bit of nostalgia. on: February 29, 2020, 11:19:59 AM
Not an OG obviously but I learnt about Bitcoin in 2011 I believe. I remember having claimed some BTCs from 'tap faucets', I'm not sure if it was Gavin's faucet or somebody else who was running it at that time, But I claimed like twice by filling out the captchas. It wasn't much I believe around 0.01 BTC at max which were lost to a random BTC address. I didn't even bother creating a new Bitcoin address for myself. I sent it to a random Bitcoin address I found by doing a google search lol... Fortunately, I haven't lost any Bitcoins ever since I started using it personally. No lost wallets or getting hacked. I did lose access to my account tho, I got hacked lol but fortunately, theymos recovered it for me after a few months that's the only "loss" I have had in the cryptosphere...

The only thing I regret is selling Bitcoins at the "moons", I remember i hodled a few Bitcoins when bitcoin was hovering at around $200 bucks, I sold them in the $900 range, I bought back in when bitcoin kinda crashed at went as low as around $300 I believe. I bought in at around $400 and then sold again when bitcoin mooned at around $1200. Even tho I made some great ROIs but I regret selling them now. I remember i sold around 5 BTCs right before we had the biggest Bullrun. Besides that my journey has been quite a positive one overall.
54  Economy / Gambling discussion / Multi-accounts, the industry-standard and KYC. on: February 29, 2020, 10:22:16 AM
Prelude:
So a few days ago, user @amelik2 created an accusation thread against FJ (Fortune Jack). Claiming that FJ had basically scammed out around 5 BTC from him with a fake case of multi-accounting. Due to some gap in communications, a potential case was being developed. Basically all FJ initially did was replied with a Screenshot of their TOS and bunch of IP addresses which was pretty vague on how they detected multi-accounts.



The initial impression I got by reading their thread was that only IP logs were being used to establish the case for multi-accounting. If you have the slightest bit of knowledge regarding networking or how ISPs work in general you will know that there are a very limited number of IPs out there. Basically we can't have a unique IP address for each and every one of us... Most of the time an IP address is being shared among thousands if not tens of thousands of users and it isn't an optimal way to establish that people are multi-accounting. You can read more about the subject here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IPv4_address_exhaustion

What I initially thought was that this could be exploited by any casino which has similar TOS, Imagine this. You are the casino, you establish a case for multi-accounts by merely using IP logs, according to your TOS. Let's say you are running low on the bankroll and some user X wins a large sum of Bitcoins and you can't pay that user out. What you can potentially do is bail yourself out by making a fake case against user X by merely showing countless other accounts which have been made by the same IP address, you could even make fake entries in your database to make an even stronger case for yourself. if you had been running for a few years you won't even have to worry about your reputation as one-off cases usually are dismissed by the community. Looks like a lucrative business doesn't it? You keep making money with the house edge and if someone hits a homerun your TOS has got you covered...

However, this wasn't the case with FJ. User @amelik2 was originally betting from his alt account @PatDugan. He got banned on his @PatDugan account, ( you can read about why in the original FJ thread ). He then proceeded to revive his inactive account, which had been inactive for 8 months the same day he got banned and was matched with the same IP address and same betting behaviour. He went on to win around 5 BTC but was then later denied the payout as the evidence was pretty compelling. Something which I agree with but this thread isn't about the @amelik2's case or FJ but rather the industry standard of how cases for multi-accounting are made and how you are already gambling your money away before you even place a bet on some random Crypto casino online.

Multi-accounts and the industry-standard:
Most online casinos dealing with FIAT require you to perform a KYC before you can deposit or place a bet on their platform. This process should weed out potential cases of fraud later down the line. It is industry standard for a reason because it works. The question is should Crypto Casinos/Bookmakers adopt the same standards for detecting multi-accounts and preventing fraud? TBH I'm not entirely sure. The very purpose of these casinos/bookmakers is to facilitate the crypto community. If they are going to implement a KYC before deposit then there isn't a unique selling point for them. Having said that there is no way to prevent abusers from abusing their promos if they don't use something like KYC... The UIDs ( they are like IMEIs but for PCs ) can be manipulated ( something I suggested in the FJ thread but requires some knowledge to do it ), IPs, as discussed above, aren't the best way to link multiple accounts. KYC does seem to do the trick for both the user and the service provider as it kinda ensures nobody is getting screwed end of the day.

I'm interested in hearing the opinion of you guys. Should these casinos adopt a KYC first policy, the industry-standard? If not then there is nothing stopping them to screw users over and vice versa. Without KYC both are parties are at risk of getting screwed over by each other. The users could find ways to create multiple accounts and casinos can bail themselves out by creating fake cases. So having a KYC first policy does seem to work.
55  Other / Meta / Re: Scrap the trolling rule? on: February 28, 2020, 12:06:47 AM
Quote from: truth or dare
Perhaps he is only interested in those that produce bitcoin code? and objects to merit given to other members. You need not create an account to read and accrue knowledge.

For a person only interested in "Truth", you do like to speculate a lot  Roll Eyes

Quote from: truth or dare
Until you demonstrate his points are undeniably incorrect you can't very well evoke the boards definition of trolling.

Since you haven't demonstrated that my premise is invalid I don't have to 'demonstrate his points' are incorrect... I have exposed their intentions according to my premise, I don't have to break down each point as it is subjective...
56  Other / Meta / Re: Scrap the trolling rule? on: February 27, 2020, 11:14:51 PM
Quote from: truth or dare
What if his intention was to inject some truth and context to the false narrative?

And what narrative are we talking about here?  Roll Eyes LoyceV just created a thread about his journey on bitcointalk, Wasn't asking us to worship him or something. What False narrative here @lolsalot was correcting here?

Quote from: truth or dare
From the only account he has created?

I'm not sure if you are drunk or merely trolling at this point. How in the world did @lolsalot know so much 2 forum members? Clearly has to be lurking here for a long time with no account which is kind of a stretch.

Quote from: truth or dare
What if the message should be viewed on it's own merits?

The message had no merit unfortunately, just said the things which a person with an IQ of 69 can even figure out...  Kiss

Quote from: truth or dare
Can someone just debunk the members points and denostrate they are untrue? else move along

Done!  Cool
57  Other / Meta / Re: Scrap the trolling rule? on: February 27, 2020, 10:13:05 PM
We don't need to scrap it, however, I'm not sure if it applies to the post in question. I agree with what @PrimeNumber7 said... Trolling is not something that you disagree with. Nor is it something that is critical of someone you like. Trolling will generally be more than a single post. Having said that I believe the intentions should be also accounted for. E.G in this case, an alt account was created just to belittle LoyceV and Zepher to basically Provoke the community and the targets and I think @lolsalot succeeded in doing that Cuz here we are talking about whether we should scrap the trolling rule or not. I kinda feel like this should be considered a case of trolling, if @lolsalot really wanted to be critical of LoyceV and Zepher, they should have done it from their original account and not hide behind Aliases. So I kinda agree with your judgement there... "100% trolling" indeed.
58  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: February 26, 2020, 05:04:44 PM
So the case is settled... I wish this information was presented right from the get-go and not vague TOS images were posted. The evidence presented is pretty compelling. I personally am pretty satisfied with the call of nullifying the winnings now, as mere IP logs weren't the evidence of it... As for apologizing for posting 'private' data, I don't think you guys have to apologize for it. The guy made a public accusation against you guys and it is only fair you guys publicly defend yourself. Might add something about this in the TOS as well...

Quote from: Lauda
If you want to improve the industry without just cherry picking and damaging certain service providers, you can do the following:
1) Make a thread about the importance of reading TOS before using something and keep promoting it to educate the masses.
2) Make a thread that will encourage and demand "all" gambling providers around here to have a clearer and fixed set of rules for this. e.g. KYC before deposits, which I would strongly argue against. e.g. Additional clauses for these multi-account scenarios, where some of the money is still given to the user and then banned for good - This I would argue for (albeit I am leaving the details of this example to others - it is just a very abstract idea).

Gonna do just that... I feel like this is something which the players should know about and the way I see it there is a huge gap in the market and with the right set of tools can change the gambling industry forever...

Quote from: Lauda
1) KYC is useless and does not work. You can buy full KYC for $50 - $150. Note: Do not tell me about the need of photos or videos with a piece of paper with today's date or anything similar. The $150 price range includes a person wearing a pink suit, standing on their left leg and writing whatever you want for this procedure. KYC does not work as a replacement for IP-analysis or fingerprinting.

Gonna discuss that in my thread, in the gambling discussion board... Gonna leave a link here once its up...

Quote from: Lauda
People need to be educated to read the TOS before using service, rather than blaming services for whatever TOS they use (in this particular case, you may want to start going after almost every single company in existence).

TBH I don't wanna become another Game-Protect... But I'm gonna create a thread to discuss/spread awareness about this.



I was about to post the above but then @amelik2 replied...

Quote from: amelik2
5. Because I do rolling live tennis bets just like 'PatDugan' you ASSUME we are the same player?

You never did rolling live tennis bets as your account was inactive and the day your buddy got banned, you decided to pop up and start betting in the same behaviour as your mate. Too big of a coincidence, Good luck trying to convince people on that...

Quote from: amelik2
If I really wanted to create multiple accounts and beat around the bush don't you think I would make sure not to use the same IP as someone else that I know is a player there? We are on multiple other books who have not once ever brought up a concern. Only after winning 50k does it become a problem...

We are all humans, we all make errors and you simply made an error by not ensuring that your IP was different when logging in. Also, Logging in on 2 accounts with different IPs isn't a hard thing to do... TBH I don't think you can convince me now that you guys are 2 separate people since you never disputed that the evidence presented by FJ is fake...
59  Bitcoin / Press / Re: [2019-07-22] Iran Announces Gold Backed National Cryptocurrency on: February 25, 2020, 10:27:51 PM
Centralized crypto backed by a physical asset that can be seized? What’s the point?  I’ll answer that question - I think the point is to capitalize on buzzwords and control their citizens.

Exactly, TBH I don't see what's the point of all these Gold backed and other "backed" cryptocurrencies, One order from a government and puff it's all confiscated, locked away and resold to the highest bidder... Also, why would anybody trust Iran at the end of the day to ensure the Physical asset is being indeed backed and the currency isn't being printed out of thin air like FIAT. These attempts are a joke! and TBH I dunno why this thread wasn't deleted, The Article itself is clickbaity. The article didn't have any sources to back what it talked about and we didn't even get a date for when this will be available to the public. All I read was contradicting information from start to finish... Pathetic reporting tbh...
60  Economy / Gambling / Re: FORTUNEJACK.COM |Deposit 777 play with 1777 mBTC |Live Casino, Slots, Betting on: February 25, 2020, 08:27:13 PM
@2double0 Apparently it's Standard industry practice. I have been reading about William hill and how they handle cases of a user having multiple accounts. In most cases, they do a standard KYC and detect multi-account users from that. Having the same home address and so on, they don't solely rely on IPs but in this case, it seems like KYC doesn't do the trick... Even if you will provide 2 separate KYCs, FJ still counts that as multi-accounting according to their TOS. @amelik2 can't do much here... Their TOS kinda protects them. Also, I believe William hill does an upfront verification of the account so cases like these are protected right outta the window.

Quote from: williamhill.com
Since 7th May 2019, if you register as a UK or Isle of Man customer, we’ll need to complete verification before you deposit to avoid your account being suspended.

So it seems like at least the Big Boys do owe their customers the information regarding having an existing account already registered with them. Also, @Hhampuz I fail to see how it is silly if you are protecting your customer. I would literally brag about your Casino if they actually looked after me... Imagine being honest from the get-go, Sir/Madam we have detected you have an account already registered with us, please contact the support team immediately. Your ability to bet has been temporarily suspended... Sounds nice rather than silly TBH. This would show that the casino respects me and my money and isn't just there to basically rip me off... Rather than having to rely on shady industry practices why not stand apart from the crowd? Literally takes a day of coding to make these kinds of filters and you end up the trouble of going through cases like @amelik2...  

At this point making an account on FJ seems like a gamble in itself. Just hope that none of your coworkers or your family members hasn't opened an account with them because if you win big, you might end up with nothing and if you end up losing money, FJ will let your account slide through. The real question here is has this happened before and what's their TOS on that. Their TOS agreement allows them to make the Assumption that you and your brother are basically the same person because you are living under the same roof and even a KYC won't be enough to change their mind apparently. I mean if FJ doesn't want to expand its operations then these kinds of TOS make sense but a casino/bookmaker who wants to dominate the market will have way more leniency than relying on mere IPs to detect multi-account users TBH...

Edit:

Quote from: Hhampuz
"Oh hey you've already used this IP, go find a different one and come back".

Or could be something like this, "Oh hey you've already used this IP, Kindly contact the support team if you believe this is a mistake". You are basically implying that every new user is a cheater trying to abuse the promotions etc, But we live in a world where a person is innocent until proven guilty... Your statement implies otherwise...


Source:
[1] https://www.williamhill.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/5065


Note: I feel like I have to leave this here, I have nothing against the signature campaign members of FJ or FJ altogether. I believe a better environment can be made for the punters. From learning from these cases and embracing the technology which is publicly available. Also, I'm not getting paid by or am I linked with @amelik2. All of what I have said are my genuine concerns. I never take part in dramas, I let the big boys do that but if this is the industry standard then people are literally burning their money away as if they weren't going to anyway. With that being said I'm gonna hit the sidelines and see how this situation develops.
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