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21  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 04, 2022, 02:23:42 PM
It has been an excellent start for India. Both openers seem to be well set now.
22  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 04, 2022, 12:09:11 PM
Jadeja is out for India too. He is a crucial part of the team.
Ravindra Jadeja is a big missing to the team. He contribute good with his bowling as well as batting. In the match against Pakistan he had an injury and he's under the supervision of BCCI medical team. He's to miss the Asia Cup as well as the T20 World Cup as the knee injury is marked serious and needs a major surgery. For this reason he'll be on rest for indefinite time period.

Do you think Kohli deserves a place in this India's team? Personally I don't think so, he looks past his prime. He can be considered decent but he is not elite anymore. India has so much white ball batting talent, I think they are behind England only in that aspect. Maybe Suryakumar Yadav should take the number 3 spot and Rishabh Pant can be in the middle order. I know his t20 record isn't great either but he is a lot younger and at this point in this career more valuable than Kohli.
23  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 04, 2022, 10:48:34 AM

Regardless of who will win today's toss and who will bat first, the odds suggest that India still have the upper hand and they have more likely to win this battle.

I would like to know the community opinion, as what they think who has the more chances of winning today's match; India or Pakistan ?




You can bet on these odds at stake.com

I am in a fix as to which team will win today. Both teams have incredible players but Babar Azam's form can be questioned in this tournament. For India KL Rahul and Virat Kohli can be seen struggling to score sixes or fours. Both teams have excellent bowlers too and this game might be decided by the performance of bowlers again.

It is also not easy to predict a T20 match as in the end the team that is able to handle the pressure will win. I am hoping for another close and intense match today between these two teams.
I think this match will be a very tough fight between the two teams.  Both teams have good players.  India has very good bowling.  Batting is also there if they can play well then India will win the match today.  Nothing can be said until the match is over.  India has such powerhouse players.  Similarly, Pakistan has strong Shali players.  Whichever team wins today will have to win after a lot of trouble. Today's game will be a very good game.

Another blow for Pakistan team just before this crucial match as another fast bowler Shahnawaz is unfit and Muhammad Hasnain will be replacing him. Hasnain just cleared his action after being reported in BBL. Naseem shah is doing good job after getting chance in place of Shaheen. I guess Pakistan is weak today.

Jadeja is out for India too. He is a crucial part of the team.
24  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 04, 2022, 05:58:47 AM
Once again a big match to come Pakistan vs India. This time it'll be even more fighting, because Pakistan will make each and every move very careful to win the match. Last match it was stated as India being very careful to make win following its T20 World Cup defeat. In today's match Jadeja isn't available due to injury. This will be a big loss for the team, and possibly Axar Patel will replace the position. Lets wait and the odds are very close between the two.
The last India Pakistan match was very exciting. Pakistan were ahead there but some mistakes indulgence the match to go in India's favor. They will try to learn from the mistakes of that game and stay ahead in this match. In the last match, India won the toss and chose to bowl. If Pakistan wins the toss, will they chase it or will they decide to bat? In T20 matches, on average, those who chase have slightly higher chance of winning.

Regardless of who will win today's toss and who will bat first, the odds suggest that India still have the upper hand and they have more likely to win this battle.

I would like to know the community opinion, as what they think who has the more chances of winning today's match; India or Pakistan ?




You can bet on these odds at stake.com

I think from a betting perspective there is a lot of value on Pakistan batting second.
25  Economy / Economics / Re: Have you felt the impact of inflation so far? on: September 04, 2022, 04:49:45 AM
I'm experiencing the effects of inflation regularly through the fuel price. When the fuel price increase is there, automatically each and everything will get tied. Electricity in my region have increased drastically, which means beyond certain units of consumption the amount gets doubled. For this reason right now electricity is being used in a calculated manner.

Years ago with what I earn I was able to manage all my needs and make a savings. Now the savings is no more.

yes, in my country it is also almost the same, now fuel is rising again and now food and drinks and others are starting to rise, and now the cost of living is getting more expensive and I hope that this inflation will end quickly and be replaced with prosperity and prosperity.

Same here, also same with vegetables and meat.
26  Other / Politics & Society / Re: Elon Musks Plan to make the world multiplanetary is just waste of time and money on: September 04, 2022, 03:17:32 AM
Personally I really used to admire Elon Musk. But that isn't the case anymore. I watched some videos over him that changed my mind, particularly thunderf00t video on hyperloop. I believe he is a smart man but overrated, I think many of his ideas are complete bs, he lies a lot and steps over other people a lot.

I am not an expert in physics or rocket science but I would believe in his critics explanation for now since they seem fairly reasonable. And also when somebody is being this ambitious it's reasonable to be skeptical.
27  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 04, 2022, 03:03:21 AM
Once again a big match to come Pakistan vs India. This time it'll be even more fighting, because Pakistan will make each and every move very careful to win the match. Last match it was stated as India being very careful to make win following its T20 World Cup defeat. In today's match Jadeja isn't available due to injury. This will be a big loss for the team, and possibly Axar Patel will replace the position. Lets wait and the odds are very close between the two.
Once again the toss will be important, the team winning the toss will be chasing and that is how the tournament is shaping up, the team batting first lost all the matches till now and every team chased the total even if the targets were a decent one except for matches against Hong Kong. Pakistan young bowling line up will be tested again and it will be another great match.

I would disagree here that winning the toss would mean winning the matches. Srilanka managed to win against Afghanistan and Bangladesh by playing good cricket and both matches were close and could have gone in any direction.

I would say that the matches are really interesting to watch and full of thrill and excitement. Though teams are winning through chasing but they have to work hard for it.

Of course it doesn't mean you automatically win the match, but the advantage is so big that I think it shouldn't be acceptable in international cricket. Wnning the toss at Dubai is half the battle, the data backs that up. I think something like last 15 of 16 matches have been won by the chasing team, and that is I think almost always the the toss winning team. The trend usually changes against weak teams.

28  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 05:42:27 PM
An entertaining match in progress with 176 is good target to chase in these conditions and here at Sharjah Cricket Stadium as Afghanistan were batting there were most chances they will touch figure around 195 to 200 but at the death overs Sri Lankan done good job and restricted them just for 175 which is also compatible and now start is also very good from Sri Lankan after 6 overs they are having 57 which is very good start from them in last power play over which bowled by Rashid Khan they stole good runs which mean today they are playing with better strategy and now have learned from their mistakes.
Today I am feeling Sri Lanka will be the winner, and they are going to be good after having good win against Bangladesh in last group match.
Very interesting to watch. When Afghanistan batting got over it looked like a winning match for Afghanistan. Another fact, Afghanistan have scored 170+ runs in 21 matches and have won in every match. Sri Lanka started the innings in a very comfortable way and took the match on their side. Later few wicket fall changed the match and once again situations are getting close. We can't be sure of the match outcome. Anything can happen at the end.
At this moment another wicket have gone. Sri Lanka managed to score 120 runs in 14 overs losing 4 wickets. But the match is reaching 50-50 chance again. In such a situation, the match is creating more excitement. At this moment if  Afghanistan take Danushka Gunathilaka's wicket then this match can go in favor of Afghanistan again. We have to wait some more time for the result.

Although the target was high, the way the Sri Lankan players batted at the beginning of the innings, the chances of their defeat in this match gradually decreased. Sri Lanka's two opening batsmen collected 71 runs. The good performance of the opening pair made it easier for Sri Lanka to win the match. However, the Afghanistan players were not able to perform as well as the first match. Sri Lankan batsmen have also returned to form. The performance of Sri Lankan batsmen has been very good in the last two matches.

Absolutely! very impressive chase against a good score and a good opposition. Sri Lanka's last two matches have been very entertaining.
29  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 03:45:22 PM
I think already at 166/5, Afghanistan have a very good score. It gets much harder to play here as the ball gets older.
30  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 03:43:26 PM
Yes I agree, that its hard to get citizenship for these countries. Still I was expecting some kind of proof that none of these teams have a single citizen.

In the GCC region, there is a separate competition called Gulf cup cricket, where only citizens are allowed to take part. I have very rarely seen anyone from the Gulf cup being a part of the national team. Previously there were a few, such as Alawi Al Braik and Fahad Al Hashmi, but now for the last 3-4 years UAE national team hasn't included anyone from the "nationals" group.

https://www.emirates247.com/sports/cricket/uae-nationals-win-gulf-cup-cricket-thriller-2011-01-31-1.349564

Hmm, fair enough!
31  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 02:22:45 PM
The first match of Asia Cup 2022 was between Sri Lanka and Afghanistan. There, Sri Lanka had to lose badly to Afghanistan. Today again those two teams are facing each other after some time. Naturally today both will try to do maximum. But it remains to be seen how much Sri Lanka can perform well. Because the current Afghanistan team has managed to get such confidence that they do not consider Sri Lanka a good opponent.

Great start for Afghanistan so far. These conditions are ideal for them!
32  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 01:59:46 PM
As you can see they moved to the country a long time ago. I am pretty sure they will have some kind of citizenship. Do you have anything confirming your statement that both these teams have 0 citizens.

UAE very rarely grant citizenship to anyone other than Arabs. Even children of second generation migrants from India and Pakistan doesn't qualify for Arab citizenship. Even the residency permit is difficult to get. When citizenship is granted to someone from India and Pakistan, it makes to front page news. Less than 100 individuals with South Asian origin have got the UAE citizenship till now and most of them are senior citizens who have lived there for 30-40 years. Same with Oman as well. Hong Kong also has very restrictive naturalization rules, but in rare cases they have granted citizenship to migrants from South Asia.

ICC rules were changed sometime ago. If I am not wrong, it was in 2006 or 2007 under the Pawar-Srinivasan mafia. Before that, only citizens were permitted to represent a country.

Yes I agree, that its hard to get citizenship for these countries. Still I was expecting some kind of proof that none of these teams have a single citizen.
33  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 01:30:53 PM
India and Pakistan will be playing at Dubai stadium tomorrow, unfortunately the advantage for the chasing team there is huge. 15 of the last 16 matches have been won by the chasing team. I think whoever wins the toss should be favorite to win the match.
34  Economy / Services / Re: A Job for Life: Bitcoin Ambassador - Salary: US $160,000 Dollars on: September 03, 2022, 01:08:42 PM
I will also appoint another 300 Bitcoin Ambassadors who are interested to work in the Bitcoin Embassy in a Official capacity.

Are you going to pay every one of these ambassadors $160k a year Mr digital monk? How admirable, what amazing work you are doing for the bitcoin community. Maybe you can think about opening a mental institution too down the line?
35  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 11:40:16 AM
Well again, they hold Hong Kong citizenship. I would assume their loyalty will now be with Hong Kong and that's where they would be living. So yeah they do represent their country. Doesn't matter what their origin is. The reason there aren't any local players is that most people there aren't interested in cricket.

Also yes if those people have immigrated to Brazil and Argentina, have their citizenship and live there. I wouldn't have a problem with that even it is full team and is selected on merit. That is their country now. Actually I would give you a real life example and have a question for you as well.

The 2018 world cup winning team France team had like 2-4 native players. Everybody else was an immigrant or kids of immigrants from different countries. Do you think it wasn't a good representation of the country?

No. The players don't have Hong Kong citizenship. Some of them have lived in Hong Kong for many years, but only one player is having citizenship. And you can't compare Hong Kong cricket team with French football team. As per the ICC rules and regulations, it is possible to form a national team with zero citizens. "National" teams of UAE, Oman.etc doesn't contain any citizens from that country. That is not possible in other sports. As per FIFA regulations, only citizens can represent a national team. FIBA goes one step further and they have a clause which states that states that only one naturalized citizen can be included in the national team.

Don't try to divert the topic. My issue is with citizenship, and not with ethnicity. If the team is made up of Hong Kong citizens, then I don't have any issue with the team. But that is not the case.

I am not trying to divert the topic. I wasn't aware of that. Do you have any source confirming that Hong players don't have citizenship and about the ICC rule?

Also I am looking at UAE team to actually see if they have 0 citizens of the country. The first two links (the captain and the vice captain) are these:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ahmed_Raza_(Emirati_cricketer)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chirag_Suri

As you can see they moved to the country a long time ago. I am pretty sure they will have some kind of citizenship. Do you have anything confirming your statement that both these teams have 0 citizens.
36  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 11:30:40 AM
Well again, they hold Hong Kong citizenship. I would assume their loyalty will now be with Hong Kong and that's where they would be living. So yeah they do represent their country. Doesn't matter what their origin is. The reason there aren't any local players is that most people there aren't interested in cricket.

Also yes if those people have immigrated to Brazil and Argentina, have their citizenship and live there. I wouldn't have a problem with that even it is full team and is selected on merit. That is their country now. Actually I would give you a real life example and have a question for you as well.

The 2018 world cup winning team France team had like 2-4 native players. Everybody else was an immigrant or kids of immigrants from different countries. Do you think it wasn't a good representation of the country?

No. The players don't have Hong Kong citizenship. Some of them have lived in Hong Kong for many years, but only one player is having citizenship. And you can't compare Hong Kong cricket team with French football team. As per the ICC rules and regulations, it is possible to form a national team with zero citizens. "National" teams of UAE, Oman.etc doesn't contain any citizens from that country. That is not possible in other sports. As per FIFA regulations, only citizens can represent a national team. FIBA goes one step further and they have a clause which states that states that only one naturalized citizen can be included in the national team.

Don't try to divert the topic. My issue is with citizenship, and not with ethnicity. If the team is made up of Hong Kong citizens, then I don't have any issue with the team. But that is not the case.

I am not trying to divert the topic. I wasn't aware of that. Do you have any source confirming that Hong players don't have citizenship and about the ICC rule?

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Edit: I have looked at it and yes I think I was wrong that citizenship isn't required in cricket necessarily. So my football example wasn't real valid since the rules are much more relaxed here. Still I think 3 years of residency is decent enough to represent a country.
37  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 11:18:03 AM
^^^ The question is whether the Hong Kong team represents the nation of Hong Kong? I am sure that the Nepal team does represent their country. Next time, if I organize a group of Indians and Pakistanis, and label them as Brazil or Argentina, do you think that the people of the Latin Americans countries will support that team? 99% of the population of Hong Kong is comprised of ethnic Han Chinese. How can a team that doesn't have a single Han Chinese be termed as "Hong Kong national team"? I don't think that anyone in Hong Kong is even aware that a team labelled as HK is playing in the Asia Cup.

Well again, they hold Hong Kong citizenship. I would assume their loyalty will now be with Hong Kong and that's where they would be living. So yeah they do represent their country. Doesn't matter what their origin is. The reason there aren't any local players is that most people there aren't interested in cricket.

Also yes if those people have immigrated to Brazil and Argentina, have their citizenship and live there. I wouldn't have a problem with that even it is full team and is selected on merit. That is their country now. Actually I would give you a real life example and have a question for you as well.

The 2018 world cup winning team France team had like 2-4 native players. Everybody else was an immigrant or kids of immigrants from different countries. Do you think it wasn't a good representation of the country?
38  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 08:37:57 AM
Every player have turned to be native players. Maybe the country they've born is different, most of the players have been playing for Hong Kong since 2010. This means playing from the U-19 cricket. One or two have played for home country and have got into the Hong Kong team after completing the residency procedure to be the citizen of Hong Kong.

As far as I know, there was only one Hong Kong citizen in the playing XI. And that was the keeper Scott McKechnie, who has dual citizenship from England as well. All the other players were citizens of India or Pakistan. They might have performed well in the qualifying tournament. But if they perform like this, they don't deserve to be in this tournament instead of teams that are playing with native players. They were bowled out for 38 runs! Even if Nepal or Japan performs like this, there is a future benefit in their participation. That benefit is not there with Hong Kong if they refuse to include native players.
Maybe I'm wrong, but from what I came across Nizakat Khan is Pakistan born and playing since 2010 for Hong Kong. Yasim Murtaza from Pakistan, after completing his period of residency now only added to the team. Babar Hayat is Pakistan born and is playing for Hong Kong since 2012. Kinchit Shah is an Indian born, but playing for Hong Kong since 2011. Aizaz Khan is a native Hong Kong born player and is into the team since 2009. Scott McKechnie is into the team since 2017. Mohammad Ghazanfar is in the U-19 team since 2010.

As said only one player is native of Hong Kong, but the rest of the players have been playing long terms for Hong Kong. Maybe the board have got different policies, but these players just holding dual citizenship can't be stamped as foreign players.

It doesn't matter if they are native or not in this context. It is unfair to say that they are not deserving to play in a tournament just because the other option is better for the game. That is secondary. I know that if Nepal played that would have brought a lot more eyes from their country compared to Hong Kong. But that isn't any kind of justification to knock other countries away when they qualified fair and square.

You can say that its better for the game if for example Nepal qualified instead of Hong Kong. But to say what you are saying is again disrespectful to the players (who have a lot of passion btw and work very hard) and the country.
39  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 08:22:05 AM
Every player have turned to be native players. Maybe the country they've born is different, most of the players have been playing for Hong Kong since 2010. This means playing from the U-19 cricket. One or two have played for home country and have got into the Hong Kong team after completing the residency procedure to be the citizen of Hong Kong.

As far as I know, there was only one Hong Kong citizen in the playing XI. And that was the keeper Scott McKechnie, who has dual citizenship from England as well. All the other players were citizens of India or Pakistan. They might have performed well in the qualifying tournament. But if they perform like this, they don't deserve to be in this tournament instead of teams that are playing with native players. They were bowled out for 38 runs! Even if Nepal or Japan performs like this, there is a future benefit in their participation. That benefit is not there with Hong Kong if they refuse to include native players.

Well again, its simple really. They qualified and they deserved to be in the tournament. Every other external factors is secondary. If other teams want to come in instead, there's a very fair way. Play better!
40  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: T20 and T20I cricket prediction and discussion on: September 03, 2022, 05:48:28 AM
It was a disaster yesterday. Hong Kong was really pathetic. They conceded close to 200 runs while fielding first and then lost the match by 150 runs. And this is the reason why I want ICC to prohibit teams sending 100% foreign citizen squads to such tournaments. Hong Kong stole the slot from teams with native players (Nepal, Malaysia.etc) and then put up a pathetic performance against Pakistan. If the ICC doesn't take concrete actions, at least the ACC should make it mandatory to have at least 3-4 native players in the XI.

First of all they weren't just gifted this spot. They came in Asia cup through a proper qualification process which Included Malaysia and Nepal too in the early stages, and they didn't even qualify for the qualifiers. So just because they had more native players they would have given a better performance? Your reasoning is absurd.

They represent the country they are playing for, doesn't matter if they are native or not. I think by saying that there aren't native players you mean they lack passion. Read this article:

https://www.espncricinfo.com/story/ind-vs-hk-asia-cup-2022-hong-kong-are-at-the-asia-cup-to-cause-an-upset-or-two-says-coach-trent-johnson-1331547



Last night was a disaster for Hong Kong not because they hired overseas players but because Pakistan bowlers bowled brilliantly. While Pakistan's batters struggled till the 13th over after that they reached the score which was impossible for Hong kong to chase. I would personally also like to see native guys being part of the national team of Hong Kong but it will only happen when Cricket Hong Kong decides how to promote cricket. Regardless of having hired players or native players every team was given equal opportunity to qualify for the Asia cup.


Well said! I would also like to see some local no matter what associate nation is playing. I was just disappointed in the way they said it was the reason that Hong Kong lost, which seems a little disrespectful to the team and the players.
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