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1  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Biden proposed 30% mining tax. what would impact on Bitcoin mining? on: March 13, 2023, 07:03:06 AM
Simply put: wouldn't mining just move to non US domicile facilities? That is the most straightforward. And have a mix of JV entities in the end
2  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Looking for leads on cheap power on: February 20, 2023, 05:10:18 AM
do let me know if you are still looking for a place. happy to talk/discuss in detail.
3  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Whats a good kwh rate for a reasonable large ASIC mining facility? on: February 09, 2023, 07:11:34 PM
We have space!

PM me for further discussion!
4  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Legacy S9 Miners/Farm (Wanted) on: January 16, 2023, 08:49:09 AM
Are there more informations about the kind of testing you want to do? (just curious)
In any case there is a very large supply of these miners and they could even come in handy in the future, since people already start to recycle the old chips for small home miners.

Basically testing for certain conditions for hash collisions for single and double SHA256, nothing that will break SHA256d but testing some thesis.

If anyone has a large supply of S9, T15, S17, T17 era miners, I might be able to work something out to make it profitable to start those machines up again. Else I may consider to purchase the machines and run them on a separate mining facility (not preferred). Basically I need machines that can run AsicBoost (overt) and non AsicBoost (version rolling).

Secondary to what I'm doing, I think it's good to reduce electronic waste and make some of these legacy machines possibly profitable again.

Hi there, I'm have sent you a PM.
5  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: The World's Best Mining Facilities on: January 11, 2023, 07:30:16 AM
I'm planning to host a few miners in the coming weeks and was wondering which locations have the most famous mining facilities in the world. Could someone please let me know?


What are the miners you plan on getting hosting for? Did you manage to get it sorted?
6  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Legacy S9 Miners/Farm (Wanted) on: January 11, 2023, 07:09:52 AM
Hi, are you still looking for miners?
7  Economy / Services / Hosting in Asia on: December 30, 2022, 08:44:43 AM
Serving miners since 2021, reliable hosting in Asia has recently undergone expansion. Slots are available, accepting both ASIC and GPU miners. Rates start from USD 0.10/kWh, volume discounts apply.

We also offer Turnkey or Custom fit out for privacy.

Chat with us for more details!

I know lots of folks will pour cold water, or advise otherwise. Give us a chance and talk to us!
8  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Miners on: October 05, 2022, 06:35:25 AM
Does anyone know where to get:

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9  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: MINING BTC VERSUS DOLLAR COST AVERAGING on: September 29, 2022, 07:31:18 AM
Hi anz888,

I'm running a facility in South East Asia. PM for details? I think the assumptions can be bettered.
10  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Cost to Mine 1 BTC in every country on: August 04, 2022, 02:30:51 AM
Thanks, I got the numbers! Really hard to mine if you don't have energy really cheap.

ditto. Mining is essentially exchanging electrical for a digital asset. Therefore, the lower cost the better because the digital asset can yield more.
11  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Deals from HongKong on: August 02, 2022, 09:44:09 AM
I have access to 3060 stock if you are keen.
12  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Looking for leads on cheap power on: July 22, 2022, 02:54:03 AM
Hi OP, you can PM me. Might have something for you..
13  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Too late to start a mining rig? on: July 01, 2022, 08:05:30 AM
Wow, I didn't realise that 3060s were going for $470. I am able to get them for way less.
14  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Mining (Altcoins) / Re: Please note that miner prices are about to rise on: July 01, 2022, 07:40:47 AM
Well true that..

However, I am able to obtain GPUs in bulk from my supplier lower than what Newegg is selling. PM me for details.

P/S not exactly an advertisement here but since the OP was talking about price increases..
15  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: MINING BITCOIN IN GEORGIA on: June 09, 2022, 02:20:01 AM
Agree with this as well. No need for immersion. Focus on getting cool (pre cooled air) in and exhaust out. You will do just fine.
16  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hosts are dropping like flies... or at least dropping me on: June 08, 2022, 08:02:15 AM
Resurrecting this thread..

Very interesting discourse.. I am a miner & colo myself and I totally agree with the "ROI" required. If its too much hassle, we'd rather drop customers. Its easier to deal with 1 customer with 1000 miners than 1000 customers with 1 miner each.

I have to agree. Back in 2017 we started construction on a general purpose datacenter in Oregon rather than a mining specific one. Between 2017-2020, crypto miners were the bulk of our revenue, but it was also the hardest earned and the most inconsistent.

The boom/bust cycle of crypto is difficult for any datacenter to accommodate. Just for historical context, in November 2018 the market dropped below profitability for our customers. Overnight everyone was asking us to turn their machines off, so we did. Unfortunately that also meant nearly 100% of our revenue stopped.

At the time, my colleague argued that if none of our customers were paying, we should evict them, have them collect their equipment and reclaim the space. However it would have been counter productive, there was absolutely zero demand to host new mining equipment. Which was pretty evident as some of our customers tried to sell their equipment with little success.

After 6 months, in May 2019 the price did turn around and all of our customers took control of their machines again. Unfortunately this only lasted 5 months until November 2019 when increasing difficulty forced all of our customers to shut off again. In June 2020 the halving occurred, which pretty much assured that equipment was never getting powered on again.

Over the course of operating 24 months, we only generated a profit for a combined 10 months. The other 14 months with non-paying "idle" customers consumed whatever profit we had managed to make previously and took us negative into the red.

Today we have almost no crypto customers, although we do have a growing number of "traditional" datacenter customers. If we hadn't built the facility with customer diversity in mind we would have perished like everyone else.

Which brings me to my point, the "mining facility" concept has little chance to succeed even with scales 10 MW and beyond. Even when you have low priced power, there are unavoidable overheads. Rent or mortgage payments, construction loans, staffing costs, local taxes, licensing, insurance, accounting fees, property tax, etc.

Obviously there are some economies of scale that can help average these costs out, but we have found that beyond a certain scale the cost actually goes up. There are a lot of cost saving opportunities when you don't have to buy everything new, pay premiums for expediting construction, permits, lawyers, etc.

No matter how you balance it, you always end up paying ~$0.04/kWh in overhead.

- Want to mine at home? Then your stuck paying for retail power with a 50% premium over commercial
- Found a mining facility with super cheap hosting in some remote country? Now your exposed to a very likely risk of losing your equipment.
- Found a warehouse to rent for $2k/month with 400 amps of power? That's $4k/month in power that your paying a 50% premium on thru rent.
- Decided to go big! Get a loan for $3M to build a 10 MW facility. Paying your loan is equivalent to paying a 50% premium on power for 24-36 months.

Ironically, I have been considering hosting mining customers again now that they aren't critical to the success of our business. I just need to find a creative way to more appropriately split the risk between hosting provider and miner.

Agree with you on the overheads of $0.04/kWh. This is over and above electricity cost.

We did a quick back of the envelope calculations. Unless we were getting free electricity, it isn't even worth it to use S9s to mine anymore.
17  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hosts are dropping like flies... or at least dropping me on: June 08, 2022, 06:58:17 AM
Yes, that would make sense. Where I'm from, its a factor of a few things - garage space is a luxury where 99% of us don't have the luxury of one..

Colo spaces will then make sense. But with the recent macro happenings, home electricity pricing isn't working out either..
A month or two ago, some people said that home mining at a rate of 10-12 cents was possible with the most efficient ASIC on the market, which was a Bitmain Antminer S19j Pro. But now, the power cost is half the revenue. Profit is half of what it used to be for that miner.

Now you need at least a Bitmain L7 or Goldshell KD2 for home mining to be viable. The only other option is a GPU rig for altcoins, but even that is not becoming worthwhile for many U.S. households who pay 15-16 cents for power. It's becoming more compelling to just sell the cards and buy the coin, since coin prices are low.

Where I'm at,
Home miners - USD 0.20/kWh + tax
Wholesale rate for farms - >> USD 0.50/kWh

Screws up the mining economics. Plus land prices aren't cheap. There has been an exodus of colo players here, leaving only the most hardcore home miners..
18  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: MINING BITCOIN IN GEORGIA on: May 20, 2022, 10:11:17 AM
Hi Warren and other posters,

Not to hijack.. Electrical cost is but 1 of several costs required for mining eg rental, maintenance etc. Is USD 0.08 an all in rate?
19  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Looking for contacts for miners on the run from china on: May 17, 2022, 08:33:15 AM
so did the OP get any leads? curious to find out..
20  Bitcoin / Mining / Re: Hosts are dropping like flies... or at least dropping me on: May 17, 2022, 07:09:54 AM
Yes, that would make sense. Where I'm from, its a factor of a few things - garage space is a luxury where 99% of us don't have the luxury of one..

Colo spaces will then make sense. But with the recent macro happenings, home electricity pricing isn't working out either..
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