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1  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: New here and wants to make some money on: December 01, 2023, 03:27:46 PM
Hello everyone,

I'm totally new and I don't have a steady source of income so I'm looking for some help, nice to meet you all 😊

Not beating around the bush eh. At least youíre being honest and straightforward about why youíre here. Itís obvious youíre totally new here(your account is) and itís nice to meet you as well.
I think you should be more specific about the help you say youíre looking for on your quest for a steady income. I read a previous reply on the thread listing some sites that links employers looking to hire people with certain skills. If by help, you mean handouts, youíre in the wrong place. Welcome once again to bitcointalk. A place where we majorly talk about bitcoin. 
2  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Would You Crowdfund for a Gambler Who Has Gambled Irresponsibly? on: December 01, 2023, 02:34:56 PM
I don't think they will play gambling immediately right after they get the money but they will first use those on the important things. And maybe they can even change after this because they are too ashamed of their selves and they are doing this as another way of saying thanks.

Yes, there are always people who are too soft and are willing to help the person who are in need of help. Maybe some of them are also an addict before. They know how hard it is to become one. Still, I don't think crowdfunding is the right word to be used here but it's more like a donation already, since we can't get something in return such as a token, same as what we have here in the crypto world.

Iím curious. Why does donation seem right and not crowdfunding to you, when they mean more or less the same thing. Crowdfunding is self explanatory. Asking/begging money from a bunch of people you donít know and will probably never meet over the internet. And in this scenario, crowdfunding seems to be the right word.

More likely than not, an irresponsible gambler having burnt through whatever money and savings he had on gambling, would equally after being helped out by strangers and friends, would begin to repeat the process that got him broke all over again.
3  Economy / Economics / Re: The power of investment choices on: December 01, 2023, 12:34:06 PM
Knowing the right choice to make for whatever investment youíve decided upon could easily fall under your investment plan. Donít you think so? In the process of making a viable investment plan, you would have options available and would have to shuffle through those available options to determine the best way forward.
Itís also worth noting like you did about the need to diversify on your portfolio investments. It is never a good idea to have all your eyes in one basket. With cryptocurrencies, itís best to stick with what you have an understanding about and staying clear of alt coins with no viable future.

It is better to win small and lose less than lose more and win less

I donít really understand what you meant here. But how about winning big?
4  Economy / Economics / Re: Agriculture vs oil on: December 01, 2023, 10:31:13 AM
What's the point of the US becoming a member of OPEC ? They're essentially competitors of the US. Therefore, the U.S. plays its own game - its own production, plus most likely there will be oil from Venezuela, plus the U.S. has the opportunity to settle oil production issues with Saudi Arabia. And this is enough to stabilize or even manipulate the oil market. And joining OPEC is unnecessary restrictions and obligations, especially in this "alliance", there are frankly specific countries that, to put it mildly, hate the United States. Therefore, if the U.S. joins any oil union, it will be a U.S.-led union Smiley)

There is actually little point of the US joining and becoming a member of OPEC. It would be bound by their rules and regulations as well as production quotas which would probably not go down well with the US.
And like you noted, if the US were to join any alliance or union, Iím pretty sure it would desire to be at the head of such a union. And with OPEC, of which Saudi Arabia is a leading member, interests are sure to clash. While the US produces a shit load of oil on its own as well as having an incredible amount in reserves, I think the US has very little to nothing to gain from aligning itself with the Union. Itís been drilling and the production rate has increased recently and doing quite well by itself.
5  Other / Beginners & Help / Re: Treat exchanges the way you treat your casino accounts. on: December 01, 2023, 09:59:19 AM
Sadly, what should be commonly known isnít commonly practiced as people still fail to heed to sound advice until they get burned.
I think your analogy is quite flawed as some gamblers are also guilty of leaving considerable amounts on their preferred gambling accounts perhaps to be able to quickly place bets at short notice. Same issue with leaving your coins on exchanges, itís commonly known but not always practiced.

We have an opportunity to have full control of our money. A system different from the traditional banking system, so what purpose is moving from the traditional banking system if you'll just end up keeping your money in a centralized exchange?

People who had or still have their money saved under/inside their mattress have a pretty good idea on how important having self custody of their funds really is. We do have the opportunity presently to take custody of our funds but it seems people are not willing to be wholly responsible for safeguarding their own money.
6  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 01, 2023, 08:59:19 AM
For sure, Manchester City will have an easy win against Tottenham Hotspur because of their injury crisis, but it will not be easy for Manchester City to top the Premier League table soon, Arsenal will fight to be on top of the Premier League table till this year finish. Arsenal being on top of the Premier League table can make them to win most of their matches just to remain at the top of the Premier League table.

I too predict a win for Manchester City against Tottenham. But it may not be an easy win like you think. Tottenham is no small team and could very well prove to be a problem for Man City and I donít think they may find it that easy to have a win.
Ordinarily, one would have thought Manchester City in their previous game against Liverpool would finish the game with a win but it probably surprised everyone as Liverpool managed to hold City to a draw. With Cityís performance so far, it wouldnít have been difficult to have a win over Liverpool but we got a draw in the game.
The game with Tottenham would be interesting to watch. I think Man City could be the victor in the game but it wonít probably be that easy.
7  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Who says you can't be a millionaire in sports betting? on: December 01, 2023, 08:19:06 AM
I donít thereís anyone who doesnít know thereís a possibility of wining a million with sports betting. And no one is preaching that you canít win such amounts in gambling. Weíve seen threads like yours about people who went on to win a considerable large sum of money after playing with a small amount too. It happens but itís definitely not consistent.
Youíre right about not achieving your desired goals if you donít try. But we should always be sensible and realistic about all things.
I donít know the earlier financial situation of the person who won the game cause obviously, he now has some good money in the bank. But if you donít have an income and choose to make an income from gambling, then youíre more likely to go broke than win such amounts.
8  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Greed or risk on: November 30, 2023, 11:56:11 PM

How would one in the first play invest with a range of $10 and expecting to win $100 with the stake with no stress in just matter of seconds, hours for a just a day?
What ever the nature of gambling would be, it is indeed a game of greed and change change it.
Though such a game as shown if lost at last is apparently a greed. Such person's are likely not beholding to responsible gambling.

It is possible to play with a small amount of $10 and win $100 in return. Itís a slim possibility for having a win but one nevertheless. Such games Iíve personally seen are football games having a large number of games to be played. I wouldnít say games played with such amounts are played entirely cause of greed. Some play having crazy high hopes of a win while some play looking to see how many of their predictions came out correct.

Such games like the one posted by the OP, if lost canít be fully attributed to greed. It could also be poor decision making at the time. Some players who are willing to take the risk to see how the outcome would be keeping in mind that the outcome may not favor them.
9  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Its A Gambling Joke But Reflects Bad Things About Gambling on: November 30, 2023, 11:28:52 PM
Itís dark humor. We would all laugh about it but it could also make one self reflect if affected negatively at any time by gambling and in any way. Itís a joke alright and it does reflect the bad aspects of excessive gambling. Sadly, a lot of people have gone through and still suffer the scenario as in the OP.
It also doesnít mean people canít and havenít purchase new vehicles with the money theyíve won from gambling. But In the urgency to win such amounts, people are likely to go broke and into financial ruin and having to borrow money to provide their needs
10  Economy / Economics / Re: Insurance is important on: November 30, 2023, 10:59:46 PM
It is, but not for everyone since others can't just afford it.

If you're making a more than enough money in your job, then getting an insurance, whatever kind of insurance that you need is a good move for the long run. It will save you from an emergency when you need it. However, not all insurances offer the same services, others are just going to give you headache when you want to get it, because for example, someone in your family died or got in an accident, which cover in your insurance.

Insurance services is open for everyone. Everyone who can afford it of course. Incidentally, the poor and in some cases, the average family donít make enough money to afford those services. They barely have enough to live on and are more worried about problems theyíre currently facing than unforeseen ones that may pop up later in the future.
Not all insurance companies offer the same service and not all can be said to be reputable. Thereíre shady companies that would try not to pay righteous claims even after investigations. With everything, including looking for the right insurance company that provides the services we want, weíve got to do our due diligence.
11  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 30, 2023, 09:38:01 PM
Liverpool no doubts have a good chance at this point to win the league title by the end of the season but then their performance in recent time's if they maintain such pase, in the nearest future they may most likely not be in a good position to win the title this season.

But then I think Manchester city and Arsenal in their present form are in better position as they are currently in their best form and are racing for the top of the table, but amongst them all, Manchester city is more consistent than Liverpool and arsenal and if Manchester city continues with their consistency and their recent form and performance, they are very likely to retain the league title again by the end of this season.

Liverpool, like all the other clubs may have a chance to win the league title this season, but I wouldnít exactly call it a good one. Theyíre comfortably sitting amongst the top four spot and theyíve still got lots more games to play before the end of the season. And I doubt theyíre going to be in first place when all games are played and the season ends.
Theyíre still good competitors that would keep Manchester City and Arsenal which are the ones that are likely to be sitting in first place when the season ends on their toes.
Those two clubs could be comfortably said to have a good chance of winning the title this season. Theyíre looking really good for it too.
12  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: The madness of gambling addicts. on: November 30, 2023, 07:04:34 PM
I will not give too far an example and I will give an example to myself when I come to a group of people who dont gamble, of course we will discuss other things that are more positive so that our minds will never think about gambling, but when I come here a group of people who like to gamble will definitely discuss gambling and in fact our minds will start to reappear about wanting to try gambling again.

ďEvil communication corrupts good mannersĒ. This is mentioned somewhere in the Bible and itís reflected in our daily lives. Obviously, the type of people you hang around with would someday and perhaps unconsciously, slowly and steadily become influential in your life.
Hang around with associates that gamble, you lot would talk a lot and do things that are gambols related and soon enough, youíll find yourself wanting to gamble as well. Itís only natural. Hanging around people with productive thoughts would likewise feed your mind with more productive thoughts. Itís left for us to decide on the crowd to hang around with.
13  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 29, 2023, 11:57:28 PM
Yes your are right but gambling are mainly for rich but not luck mind. We can see many gamblers grow up with low amount of money. If you are rich and you entered in gambling that is plus point for you but in gambling maximum time luck doesn't fevour. That is game of skil. The game is fully depend on your silk money is not to much needed but skil is needed.

Gambling isnít mainly for the rich but seeing as you do need some money in order to play, one could see why gambling is said to be for the rich in the society. I think itís for anyone with some money to spare and willing to take some risks.

If youíre rich and get into gambling, the obvious advantage is there is money to comfortably bet and such individuals wouldnít look to gambling as a source of making an income.
Generally, although skills are needed to try to identify and predict games that could be favorable, you literally canít do anything without having some money in your pocket. You can have all the skills but without any money, youíre pretty much a spectator.
14  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do you think that this is aperfect analogy of how gambling addiction starts? on: November 29, 2023, 11:31:24 PM
I have come to realize that gambling is remotely fun when you're not winning. You will have to get a lot of wins in order to get the thrill and the dopamine from it. That's why I think a lot of beginner gamblers win - it's for them to get lured and be caught off guard by the system to gamble more and win more. Once that's established, the gambler will then have the choice to decide if gambling is worth it or not. If they only play for entertainment, great. If not, then there will be a problem eventually, for sure.

Yes, you would have to play and win for you to get some thrill but I think there could also be fun also when winning. And I agree with your opinion on beginners getting lured and sucked into the world of gambling with their first win. That win could motivate just anyone to play more.
For some who choose to indulge in gambling as a means of making an income,  this is the point where their money problems begins. While for others who simply play purely for entertainment purposes are quite safe. Sadly, a whole lot of people have and continuously do gamble in a bid to earn some extra income.
15  Economy / Economics / Re: When the world is evolving, follow the trend. on: November 29, 2023, 11:00:37 PM
Whyíd you think trade by barter working successfully back in the day is surprising? And corruption, being way older than paper money itself wonít suddenly go away with the end of the reign of paper money being used as a means of exchange.

In my opinion, nothing is truly certain except death of course. So the future where you say all financial transactions would be done only digitally without paper money is still far off and not entirely clear. Of course, it would be advisable to embrace change when it comes.
The economy of a nation is determined by what it produces and exports. And that in turn gives the boosts the nations finances.
16  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Health Benefits of Gambling on: November 29, 2023, 09:57:55 PM
It helps release stress but could also be a source of stress. Better to approach it with care and see how it affects our thoughts and emotions.
Also going little by little will be better than trying to win big and risking to lose it all.

Stick to the plan.

Another benefit is it can help you to improve decision making and practice discipline

I think most people who indulge in gambling in order to earn an income from it could in the long run, probably add to the stress levels of such individuals. While people who actively donít play and seek an income whenever they gamble could have less stress due to the activity.
A lot of gamblers do play with more money than they can comfortably afford. They tend to ignore that fact as theyíre temporary blinded by the amount to be won in the end. Hence counting chickens before theyíre hatched.

True. It could probably help some people develop some more discipline in other aspects of their life.
17  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Request to learn gambling on: November 29, 2023, 12:59:22 AM
I would say you did her some good by discouraging her. Itís clear sheís looking to gambling as a means where she could earn some extra income. Itís good sheís looking to earn extra to add to whatever she earns in her main job but with gambling, she will find out rather quickly that she would spending more money than she ever thought on gambling in a bid to win big.

Asides all of that, if she starts gambling in a bid to earn more and it doesnít pan out like she had hoped for, and she ends up having some financial troubles. In a bid to avoid taking responsibility for her actions, she may fault you for introducing her to gambling conveniently forgetting she asked to be taught in the first place.
18  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Do not gamble with Loan Money~otherwise you will be in danger like me on: November 29, 2023, 12:37:40 AM
With the number of threads talking about several unhealthy practices some gamblers do in order to continue gambling, perhaps in a bid to win back all theyíve lost.
Itís real easy to dish out advice but really difficult to learn and follow said advice. Iím not entirely surprised with the story shared by the OP. I somewhat feel sympathetic for the OP as although, he knowingly borrowed to gamble, this is a financial setback that would have some impact.

This is another clear case of how things could turn out for you if, after having a bad spell, you decide to stubbornly continue playing to try and recoup all/most of the money lost. And like most cases, you end up losing even more like in the case of the OP.

Hopefully, the case of the OP could help be a deterrent to others against chasing your losses as well as taking out loans to gamble.
19  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Gambling are mainly for rich and lucky mind. on: November 28, 2023, 11:56:24 PM
It is obvious that no good thing that come easy and when you are not lucky in gambling you are not lucky and a lucky person in everything he tries might still be a lucky person on gambling because i dont see what you know you do consistently and is not favourable to you yet you are still in it, that is stupidity to a reasonable man and even if your taking it to be for funs but definitely you are spending carelessly on it and truly the mindset of a gambler is to get not to loose

We reap whatever we sow. Sometimes we look upon the benefits of someoneís toiling and work and think it to be luck. It isnít always so as there are people who work their ass off in trying to predict possible winning bets.

Youíre so sure that people who gamble for fun are definitely spending their money carelessly. You may be wrong on that. There are disciplined people who play for the fun and thrills and are gainfully employed and wonít have to see and use gambling as a means of getting an income. And therefore, wonít have the urge to spend carelessly looking for a win.
20  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: November 25, 2023, 04:34:46 PM

Normally Chelsea suppose to win this game but the way things are going, I think the opposite will be the case. This is not the Chelsea that played draw with Manchester city because what a poor performance so far! Nothing is accurate this first half. I just don't like how Pochettino has to gamble with one player every game. Why having Ugochukwu in midfield? Why couldn't he allow the team to be a set as they have been playing and then introduce a substitute depending on how the game develops? In fact, ugochukwu should be rightly replace because he's too weak in this game. Gallagher can just help himself to be calm and make decisions that might result to goal or assist. So many mistakes to correct in the second half else Newcastle will takeaway the whole 3 points or end draw as you predicted. Let's just watch out for the second half and see how both teams will make things look.

It seems you underrate Newcastle. Both teams are good but this season,  Newcastle seems to be more consistent in their performance than Chelsea and this is being shown currently in the scoreline in the game with Chelsea.
Newcastle is currently two goals ahead of Chelsea. And while Chelsea may have some chance at staging a comeback, itís slowly slipping away as the time counts on.
Itís the 73rd minute now and Newcastle doesnít seem to want to relent as theyíre still pressing hard for another goal. It seems the pressure is a lot on Chelsea as James has managed to get himself a second yellow card and has been sent off.
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