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41  Economy / Services / Re: [OPEN] Bets.io Signature Campaign | SiGMA Award Winning Casino on: December 23, 2023, 12:12:36 AM
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42  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 16, 2023, 12:07:36 PM
We can say that Tottenham has achieved great stability after the troubles they experienced in the interim. They maintain their place in the top five. If they continue with such a good game plan, they can step into the top four and stay there. Many players in the team are in very good form and doing good work. Kulusevski was the best player in the Nottingham Forest match, that magnificent goal he scored was very good, he faced the goalkeeper and finished very confidently. The absence of Maddison and Richarlison affected the team greatly. If these problems did not exist, we would have seen Totthenem much higher, and as I said, they still have opportunities.
If Tottenham play with their complete core squad then I am sure Tottenham will definitely be able to maintain their place at the top of the standings until now. Unfortunately, many of their core players are injured and this has disrupted the balance of this team's performance. And making Tottenham slowly decline. But in yesterday's match against Nottingham, I saw that Tottenham had begun to restore balance in their team's performance even though many players were still injured. Their positive performance has started to appear since the match against Newcastle. Even Richarlison was able to score 2 goals in the match against Newcastle. And now Richarlison added 1 goal again in the match against Nottingham. It seems that under the new coaching this season, Tottenham has changed for the better. Ange Postecoglou seems like a coach who is able to adapt well to the conditions existing in the Tottenham squad. So he can always find solutions quickly when the squad is in trouble.
now Manchester City and Tottenham Hotspur have the same points, namely 33, but Tottenham Hotspur is still in 5th position, yes, Tottenham Hotspurs are very good now and are starting to adapt to the existing players and of course even though Maddison is not there, it doesn't reduce their performance in playing and Ange Postecoglou are great in training the . Of course, soon we will see Manchester City's match against Crystal Palace and I'm sure the audience can't wait to watch this match. Of course, Manchester City must not lose because if they lose, of course they will potentially go down in rankings, whereas if Crystal Palace wins, of course Crystal Palace will be proud because can beat last season's champion.
43  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 16, 2023, 03:47:30 AM
In the end, my prediction was correct. Tottenham Hotspur succeeded against Nottingham Forest with a score of 0-2 and I think the match was very exciting, but unfortunately, as the host, Nottingham Forest had to bear the shame of losing the game, but I think Nottingham Forest's strength was quite a lot because in the early minutes Tottenham Hotspur seemed quite difficult to score and in the final minutes of the first half then Richarlison scored a goal and in the second half Tottenham scored another goal through D.kulusevski in the 65th minute. However, it was a shame that Y.bissouma received a red card in the 70th minute.
but what I liked most about this match was when Richarlison scored a goal and the crossing pass given by Kukusevski was really extraordinary and in the end Richarlison was able to take advantage of it but unfortunately H.son didn't score. I wanted to see him score, but yes, Tottenham Hotspur's performance It's really extraordinary and Nottingham Forest is also very good because the score of 2-0 is not too far away, but Tottenham Hotspur continues to add points, of course the competition is getting hotter.
44  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 15, 2023, 02:30:13 PM
Tottenham vs Nottm Forest

I think this should be a fairly easy match for Tottenham if we reflect on their performance in their last match against Newcastle. But on the other hand there are still doubts, especially from myself to Tottenham, because they often slip lately because they cannot maintain their impressive performance. Honestly on the other hand I will not be too confident for this match and maybe I will not be able to conclude too early whether Tottenham have really returned to their impressive form if only by getting a win against Newcastle in yesterday's match. Overall I think Tottenham should be able to win this match by getting the full three points to equalize their points with Manchester City who are in 4th place or further away from the pursuit of Ten Hag's squad, but we'll see if it will be really easy for Tottenham or vice versa in tomorrow's match.

In my opinion, Nottingham Forest will certainly appear confident against Tottenham Hotspur and I think Tottenham will not waste the opportunity when they face Nottingham Forest tomorrow, because if Tottenham win tomorrow against Nottingham Forest it will be a big threat for Manchester City because if Tottenham Hotspur wins tomorrow against Nottingham Forest, the number of points obtained will definitely increase and currently Tottenham Hotspur's points are 30. If they win tomorrow, of course the points have the potential to be 33. Meanwhile, Manchester City's points are currently 33.

But of course Manchester City tomorrow will definitely want to add points and I think in tomorrow's match Manchester City against Crystal Palace has the potential to win because if you look at the standings, of course there is a big difference between Crystal Palace and Manchester City. I think tomorrow will be an exciting match.
45  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 15, 2023, 09:13:15 AM

I think as hosts they can show their best performance and I think we should not underestimate Nottingham Forest because matches are sometimes always full of surprises, perhaps currently many people think and predict that Tottenham Hotspur will get an easy result. playing against Nottingham Forest, but I am sure that in this match, Nottingham Forest will show their best performance as hosts. But I personally don't want to bet on Nottingham Forest winning because at Tottenham Hotspur I saw H. .son I think it will be an interesting match but I'm sure Nottingham Forest will appear confident because it could be a miracle that will come. . . . . which makes the match a draw or Tottenham Hotspur wins. However, in my opinion, because Maddison is not playing, it will certainly make Nottingham Forest more confident.
A series of results of 1 draw and 4 times I actually doubt that Nottingham Forrest can be troublesome, because seeing from the current conditions the most likely result for Nottingham Forrest is a draw again as they did last week.

At the moment Nottingham Forest still can't show anything until now especially when the opponent is Tottenham.
Although we know that Tottenham also previously had problems in declining performance, but for now, especially in the last week they managed to beat Newcastl with a pretty landslide score, so I think this could be a revival momentum for Tottenham in this match.
In terms of strength, the comparison is quite visible, in terms of actual performance we also know who has a high probability so now I think it doesn't matter if we say Tottenham is the favorite in this match even though they act as an away team in the match that will occur in week 17.


I agree with you and indeed if you look at it in terms of strength and from the last 4 matches of course Tottenham Hotspur is superior because Nottingham Forest in their last 4 matches against Tottenham Hotspur were only able to win 1 time and also the time was 2022 and at that time Renan Lodi and J. Lingard became a hero for Nottingham Forest and at that time Nottingham Forest was very lucky because Tottenham Hotspur could not score a goal against Nottingham Forest even though Tottenham Hotspur controlled the match. Yes, I agree, it is appropriate that Tottenham are currently favorites in this match even though Tottenham Hotspur is the away team and indeed if we look at the standings of course we can guess and predict that Tottenham Hotspur will have a big chance. became the winner against Nottingham Forest and indeed I also saw the revival of Tottenham Hotspur's performance in the match against
Newcastle with a score of 4-1 and Newcastle who are ranked 7th canbe beaten easily especially Nottingham Forest who is now ranked 16th, Tottenham will definitely beat them easily and what I like most about Tottenham is when they face Manchester City, I think at that time, even though it was was a 3-3 draw. But at that time I saw Tottenham's performance was very good.

Yes, even though Nottingham has not shown its performance in the near future, of course this match is very curious because it brings together teams whose standings are of course very different.
46  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 15, 2023, 07:52:52 AM
Nottingham Forest Vs Tottenham Hotspur
Today's match is expected to be a tough challenge for Nottingham Forest, as Tottenham Hotspur have been in good form lately. However, Nottingham Forest will be keen to put in a strong performance in front of their home fans. It remains to be seen whether Steve Cooper can keep his job if Forest don't improve their results soon, but for now, all focus will be on trying to secure a positive result against Tottenham. The chances of both teams scoring in the match are very high. I think Tottenham can take the match 2-1.
Nottingham Forest, who will host today's match, will probably still have difficulty not losing to Tottenham. Because in my opinion, being the host still won't help much change for Nottingham in this match. Even last season, Tottenham always won when facing Nottingham. Only in the EFL Cup did Tottenham lose to Nottingham last season. But in the Premier League I don't think Tottenham will let Nottingham steal points from them. But Nottingham could actually benefit slightly this time. Because Tottenham actually can't play with their full strength. Even Tottenham only relies on H. Son to be the spearhead at the moment. Because J.Maddison probably won't be back this month. The schedule is for J.Maddison to return in January. That is, if the injury recovers as calculated. So sometimes Tottenham's condition becomes very bad at one time. But for this match I would not hesitate to bet on Tottenham. Because Nottingham still won't be able to beat Tottenham even though Tottenham still haven't used their maximum strength. But I also wouldn't be surprised if the results weren't what I expected. Because we can't have too high hopes for a club that is being hit by an injury storm like Tottenham this season.

I think as hosts they can show their best performance and I think we should not underestimate Nottingham Forest because matches are sometimes always full of surprises, perhaps currently many people think and predict that Tottenham Hotspur will get an easy result. playing against Nottingham Forest, but I am sure that in this match, Nottingham Forest will show their best performance as hosts. But I personally don't want to bet on Nottingham Forest winning because at Tottenham Hotspur I saw H. .son I think it will be an interesting match but I'm sure Nottingham Forest will appear confident because it could be a miracle that will come. . . . . which makes the match a draw or Tottenham Hotspur wins. However, in my opinion, because Maddison is not playing, it will certainly make Nottingham Forest more confident.
47  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 15, 2023, 07:17:06 AM
Manchester United is one of the biggest clubs in the English Premier League and there's no doubt that they're capable of beating any side in the league when they play at their best but considering what we've seen from them this season, I think they don't stand a chance of getting any result from their game against current league leaders Liverpool this season.

Playing as an away club at Anfield stadium is one of the worrying moments for any club in the English Premier League because whenever Liverpool is playing at home in front of their usual exploding fans, they  tend to be unplayable. Last season, Liverpool had a bad campaign but are trying to make up for their shortcomings by winning a major title this season and winning the English Premier League is the top of their priorities this season. Liverpool are currently leading in the league table and knows how important every win can be to further strengthen their quest to claim the English Premier League title once again so that's why I think they'll surely be playing at their best against Manchester United this weekend and I don't expect Manchester United to be strong enough to stop them from winning that game.

The game against Liverpool is more like one that would be full of lots of fun and one the fans already don’t have much a expectation from, If you check the United current form, and squad you’ll see they stand no chance against league leaders, Liverpool and from their run of form you’ll see they stand no chance against this Liverpool side,cause they'll even be playing without alot of their senior players.

 Now United in their poor form, will be playing in a fortress, Anfield and this is one ground that’s not an in form football club will want to play at. Liverpool are chasing a title this season, and Manchester United are not up to a match to stand their way, I feel they'll still get embarrassed at Anfield like the previous season when they were beaten 7-0, that was disastrous.

So far as I know that Jorgen Klopp boys wouldn't want to give up the top of the league anytime soon and checking at Manchester united current poor performance, it is believed that Liverpool is gonna demolish Manchester united and for the fact that the red devils are visiting Anfield even makes it more obvious for Liverpool to have their way. Manchester United needs some form of reformation of the club before they can confidently win matches conspicuously.

Yes, as the host of course Liverpool has the potential to play with its best performance, and indeed last season Liverpool's ranking was below Manchester United. At that time Liverpool was in 5th place with 67 points, while Manchester United was in 3rd place with 75 points, but of course we don't know what developments will happen and in my opinion if Erik ten Hag can make a good strategy then it is very possible that Manchester United will increase the position and the possibility of moving up the rankings. But of course Liverpool will maintain their current position and will fight as hard as they can to achieve their dreams and improve last season's performance by becoming champions this season.

Yes, at that time I also didn't expect that Manchester United would lose with a score of 7-0 and at that time C. Gakpo's performance was very good and Mohamed Salah also scored a good goal, but in my opinion Manchester United definitely didn't. don't want to repeat mistakes like before. but if Liverpool lose at Anfield stadium they will definitely be embarrassed.

I think Jurgen Klopp will definitely not take this match lightly because usually matches are always full of surprises, and Erik Ten Hag certainly doesn't want to see his men lose.
48  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Bitcoin in your country. on: December 15, 2023, 03:19:00 AM
in my country the government does not prohibit people from using bitcoin, but the government in my country prohibits people from using bitcoin as a means of payment, and I think the government in my country has done wise things for its people and indeed if for example we buy and sell crypto on the exchange Of course there are always taxes that go to the government, but I agree with the actions taken by my government because with taxes from crypto that go to the country, of course the government will definitely use it for positive things.

So of course people who want to vacation in my country (Indonesia) must use the legal means of payment in my country, namely rupiah (Rp).

Yes, of course in every country there are always different rules and we as a society must be patient and must obey the state's rules.
49  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Who is wiser? on: December 15, 2023, 02:32:44 AM
Current market conditions are increasing, of course the price of bitcoin is rising as well as altcoins whose prices continue to rise, okay I will answer according to the knowledge I have.

What Mr. Bob is doing is actually good if he invests long term in BTC and of course the market will continue to rise because soon there will be a BTC halving and in 2025 there will be a bull run.

If Miss Alice buys 50% BTC and 50% Altcoin, that is also the right decision as long as you buy quality Altcoin, then of course you will get bigger profits because when the price of Altcoin goes up it always goes up very high, it can even be 500% during a bull run.

I think Mr. Theymos has done a good and wise thing, even when there is a price increase, the DCA system can indeed be applied and only buy when there is a price decrease, of course we always see that there is always a correction and it is during the correction that we take advantage of the opportunity.

I think in this case everyone has individual reasons and indeed the most appropriate and safest thing is to buy crypto during a bearish market and if you buy during a bull market it is of course very risky because crypto price movements are difficult to predict.
50  Economy / Economics / Re: Retirement Age for Workers - Does this Make Sense? on: December 14, 2023, 11:28:41 PM
In my opinion, in this case it depends on the health of the citizens, in essence in terms of physical and other things, of course the government also carries out research on the physical and performance of the people because sometimes each country always has different physical conditions, and in my opinion, aged 62 or more, are no longer strong. in physical terms but of course in this case there are definitely pros and cons and even in one country but sometimes physical conditions vary so I think in this case there must be awareness from individuals because in reality everyone has different physical conditions sometimes there are times when people who are old but still want to work because their physical condition is very good, but there are also those whose physical condition is no longer strong, even though for example they are less than 60 years old, so in my opinion, in this case we have to respond wisely.
51  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: The risk and reward of having Bitcoin on: December 14, 2023, 03:39:52 PM
For beginners, they always think that investing in BTC is a way to get rich in a short time, but in reality investing in BTC is not an easy thing because investing in BTC is very risky and must be long term and only Sell during bull runs

op I also feel the bitter sweetness of investing in BTC but I really like investing in BTC because as time goes by I now understand more about BTC and am starting to understand the risks of investing in BTC and the benefits of investing in BTC. But of course everything has risks in this world and success is only for those who don't give up and always learn from mistakes.

but bitcoin is not gold, of course if we invest in it the risk is not too high, whereas if we invest in btc the risk is very high so it requires sacrifice and we are ready to lose if we invest in btc.

The point is, everything is very risky, so in this case we have to be able to respond wisely.
52  Local / Trading dan Spekulasi / Re: Waktunya berpegangan erat erat on: December 14, 2023, 04:38:41 AM
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Tapi kalau menurut saya sekarang adalah waktunya untuk menahan btc hingga halving btc atau bull run dan berpegangan erat erat namun tentunya bagi yang siap dengan resiko dan bagi yang siap dengan kerugian.

Ya itu memang menurut anda agan, yang punya modal untuk itu Grin
Baik, disini ane mau berbagi pengalaman sedikit soal menahannya atau tidak, menurut ane itu semua tergantung pada kepercayaan diri sendiri dan insting itu terkadang ada benarnya. Jadi, jika agan percaya dengan pendirian agan maka pegang lah erat-erat btc itu, mungkin itu bisa jadi gambaran sepengalaman ane gan.
Mau ada modal banyak atau tidak yang terpenting di sini bisa ngambil momen yang tepat kapan untuk beraksi. Harga BTC itu sedikit banyak bisa ditebak kapan pergerakan bullrun dan bearishnya, jadi kalau memang ada duit sedikit, tidak ada salahnya untuk DCA atau beli bertahap, walau itu 50 ribu perak sekalipun. Karena jika itu dilakukan secara kontinyu dan terus menerus niscaya akan menjadi bukit. Apa lagi jika seseorang itu dulunya mulai beli di harga bearish atau tahun kemaren (2022), pasti saat ini dia sudah bisa menikmati profit. Namun bisa juga dihold sampai 2025, karena biasanya setelah setahun halving, harga BTC akan mulai naik gila-gilaan sampai membentuk ATH baru dari $68k.

harga btc memang suka gila gilaan sesudah halving btc dan ini merupakan momen yang di tunggu tunggu oleh semua investor, dan memang kita bisa memprediksi btc kapan akan turun dan kapan akan naik, dan memang harus membeli btc di saat momen yang tepat namun op juga harus belajar lebih giat tentang cara menganalisa dan memprediksi harga karena kadang tidak semua orang bisa melakukan itu yang tentunya membutuhkan pengetahuan dan pengalaman yang banyak karena kadang situasi pasar sangat sulit di prediksi dan mungkin dalam hal ini op sering melihat siklus bitcoin yang selalu membentuk ath baru makanya dia ingin menginvestasikan uangnya di bitcoin untuk jangka panjang. ya saya setuju gan karena meskipun membeli btc dengan uang 50ribu perak kalau sering lama kelamaan pasti akan menjadi bukit. dan jujur gan @sarah Azhari ane juga pernah membeli btc dengan uang 50ribu perak  Smiley
53  Economy / Economics / Re: Do you still use Banks ? on: December 14, 2023, 04:03:19 AM
I am a person who invests in crypto and I make crypto as a side business, of course I always use banks because honestly I need banks, like sending money and so on and in my country the government prohibits people from using crypto as a means of payment. but it doesn't prohibit people from investing in crypto and honestly I still like using fiat money because if I use crypto I think it's more difficult because in my country not everyone knows about bitcoin and crypto. Personally, I choose banks and crypto because I think banks and crypto must coexist and I think crypto is very risky as well as banks which of course contain risks. so I chose both, namely banks with crypto.

and I'm sure many members of this forum use banks, as long as they use fiat currency as a means of payment in their country. and in my opinion bitcoin is a tool to make our economy more advanced, and the bank's job is to maintain the security of our money stored in the bank, whereas crypto has a very high risk because the price fluctuates and is difficult to predict. and in this case of course we also have to look for a good and quality bank.
54  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 14, 2023, 03:38:19 AM
What I know is that currently Erling Haaland is still the top scorer this season, namely 14 goals. In my opinion, the current top scorer competition opens up a lot of opportunities for Mohamed Salah from Liverpool, ​​because currently Erling Haaland is still injured and doesn't know when he will return to compete. As far as I know, Mohamed Salah has currently bagged 11 goals, so of course Mohamed Salah has great potential following Erling Haaland's goal, and in Liverpool's next match against Manchester United, I think it's a good opportunity for Mohamed Salah to score lots of goals. because I see that Manchester United's performance is currently declining so now is the time for Mohamed Salah to show his best performance and score lots of goals.

It seems that this season's top scorer will be difficult to predict, because Son Heung-min from Tottenham Hotspur has also currently bagged 10 goals and is certain to be a tough opponent for Mohamed Salah. I think Erling Haaland must recover quickly from his injury because the number of goals he scores could be overtaken by Mohamed Salah or Son Heung-Min.
55  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 13, 2023, 11:40:00 PM
Yeah actually I believe so because there is actually time for Manchester City to come back because even there last season performance they had similar challenges which make Arsenal to lead on there table for sometime and it was later Manchester City manages to peak form and beat Arsenal which make them to win the last year premier league.
Yeah I also have confidence in Manchester city to come back, since Aston villa which is in third position is just ahead of them with 2 points, Arsenal which is in second position is just ahead of them with 3 points and Liverpool is ahead of them with 4 points, the gap is still kind of small, and Manchester city should be able to cover up. Arsenal was leading Manchester City with reasonable points last season, but gradually Manchester City were able to cover up and they won the league last season, but this season won’t be a easy one for Manchester City, am not really satisfied with their performance yet, and this season will be a different one for Manchester City, because they won’t be able to win all the leagues Manchester City won last season.

That's your own Analysis but for me Liverpool wouldn't want to give up that top soon like they will fight with every energy they've got and I trust Jorgen Klopp as he's gonna make sure his boys will remain at the top of the league for sometimes if at all they will not utilize this great opportunity of topping the table and as well win the league at last. Your analysis about Manchester city last season may be correct but this season is more of competitive than last season so it may really not be easy to predict the title winners yet as the gaps between the top teams in the table ain't that much.
It will be hard for Manchester City to repeat what they did in the Premier League last season because Kevin De Bruyne will be with the Manchester City squad for the long term and it is affecting Manchester City's performance. Liverpool is the real threat to Manchester City this season, Liverpool will want to be at the top of the Premier League till the season ends.

I also have the opinion that Manchester City certainly has the potential to rise again in the rankings because I see that currently its performance is improving again and I also hope that E. Haaland recovers quickly from his injury, because E. Haaland is of course very influential on Manchester City's strength but he is indeed struggling to riseRanking above is certainly not an easy thing.

Yes, Liverpool is of course a strong team, of course Jurgen Klopp will not let Liverpool's position be shifted by other teams, but I see that Liverpool's current performance is not good, like in the match against Crystal Palace and it ended with a score of 1-2 for Liverpool's victory, but what preceded by scoring a goal from Crystal Palace player J. Mateta and continued by Liverpool players Mohamed Salah and H. Elliot who scored goals and ultimately won for Liverpool. but even though Liverpool won, I think it's a natural thing because Crystal Palace's ranking is certainly very different from Liverpool's. Liverpool should be able to score more goals, so in my opinion, currently Liverpool's performance is experiencing a slight decline, so of course this will open up opportunities for other teams to shift Liverpool's position. but hopefully Jurgen Klopp will quickly improve Liverpool's performance.

Yes, predicting who will be the champion this season is very difficult because the distance between the points is not too far, but of course this will result in exciting and tight competition.

but I am sure that with the strength of Manchester City, Manchester city will perform well and its ranking will rise, yes, but of course Liverpool will definitely maintain its position until the end of this season, so we'll see what Jurgen Klopp does to maintain Liverpool's position so that they become champions this season. This.
56  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: You must have a source on: December 13, 2023, 02:37:11 PM
Indeed, before investing in BTC, it would be better to have a job or income because living in this world we need food and drink and other things, and indeed we often come across people who fail to make a profit from investing in BTC and one of the factors is because they don't have income and only relies on bitcoin as his main job. but of course there are also many people who rely on bitcoin to meet their living needs such as food and drink costs, school fees, weddings and so on, but of course they are experienced and have mastered the knowledge about investing in btc and others.

But it would be better to make BTC as a side business because BTC prices are difficult to predict.

and indeed op when we have no income in the real world and only rely on bitcoin of course when there is an urgent need then we will sell btc and ultimately fail to make a profit when we sell it at a cheap price.

Yes, experience is the best teacher, because with experience we can correct our mistakes in the past.

and I also always see people who are successful investing in BTC, and indeed they have income in the real world so that in the end they are very calm in investing in BTC and in the end they get big profits.

Sometimes there are always people who blame BTC for the losses they receive when in fact the loss is due to a lack of knowledge about investing in BTC. This is a good topic, hopefully it will be useful.
57  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 13, 2023, 01:58:36 PM
Some people were hoping to see Man Utd do wonders or perform magic in their last game with Bayern and were having and that was a hopeless hope of thinking that the Red Devils will make it to the next round of the competition when they were already at the bottom and had Bayern Munich to face in their last group stage game. Bayern Munich team top the table with Maximum of points by beating Man United once again in their last game and that was not a surprise, Man Utd should just focus on the premier to see if they will also have the opportunity to qualify for next season's UEFA Europa cup competition.
However, strangely enough, Man Utd's defeat in that match no longer surprised anyone. In fact, it seems like everyone already suspected that Man Utd would lose this match. So it is not surprising that Man Utd fans are hoping for a miracle because in fact they already know that it is very likely that Man Utd will lose this match. Well, now Man Utd just needs to focus more on the EPL. Don't let them fail in two competitions at once. They already lost in the UCL. And now Man Utd's hope is not to lose in the EPL.

But don't forget that today we are all also hoping for a miracle for Newcastle who will play against Milan. And hope that PSG will be beaten by Dortmund. Because if PSG loses to Dortmund and Newcastle wins against Milan. Then Newcastle will certainly qualify for the next stage in the UCL.

Arsenal and Man City are the two clubs that have been confirmed to qualify for the round of 16. And it looks like this season there will only be 2 EPL clubs that will qualify for the next stage. Losing to clubs from Italy, it is certain that 3 clubs will qualify for the next stage.


Of course there are a lot of Manchester United fans and indeed Manchester United can be called a strong team because in terms of standings it is not too low and once in the 2020, 2021 season Manchester United is in second place in the English league.

Yes, I wouldn't be surprised if Manchester United were defeated by Bayern because I saw Manchester United's performance in the match before facing Bayern in the UEFA Champions League. Yes, in the EPL, maybe Manchester United could have the potential to improve its performance. However, the next opponent that Manchester United will face is of course a tough opponent because Manchester united will compete against Liverpool, which is currently the strongest team in the English league. Yes, the matches in UCL are now getting more exciting and I really support Manchester City, I hope Manchester City consistently puts out its best performance. and tomorrow in the Champions League Manchester City will play against Red Star but according to my prediction Manchester City will win because currently Red Star in Group G is in last place and only has 1 point while Manchester City already has 15 points.
58  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 13, 2023, 12:01:34 PM
Manchester United are really crying for help these days. They are out of the Champions League by finishing their group at the last position. Now in the Premier League a really tough fixture is waiting for them for a few weeks. After seeing the way they play in a critical game in the Champions League I'm not expectant from them in the Premier League either.

It doesn't look like they will be able to continue with Erik ten Hag. These games ahead would probably be important on determining his future at the team. If the Red Devils collect very few points from these games then I don't see a bright future for him. His time to get sacked might be earlier.
I think if Man United's match results remain poor in the first half of this season then Ten Heg's position could indeed be threatened. He could have been fired. Unless Ten Heg is able to talk and spin the problem by blaming the lack of good players in the Squad. And instead asked for the opportunity to add players in the transfer market later. Because I think Ten Heg is very good at talking. Last season, the same condition happened to Man United. However, last season, in the second half of the season, Man United suddenly recovered and even managed to end the season in 3rd place. So the club might consider this and hope that the same thing happens. But I think even if Man United can get a ticket to the UCL again, it will be useless if they don't change their current habits. That is, they are quite good in the Premier League but then become bad in big competitions like the UCL.

Yes, it's very sad because in the Champions League, Manchester United is in the group .A. with the lowest points, namely only having 4 points, but in the English league, of course Manchester United can still be called a strong team even though their performance is currently declining, but sometimes I don't blame them either. 100% to Erik ten Hag because in my opinion what determines whether a match is good or bad is the individual player himself, but it could be said that most of it is Erik ten Hag's fault because as a coach he is basically not good at providing insight to Manchester United players.

Yes, Erik Ten Hag is really good at talking, and it looks like we can only watch for Manchester United's development in the future, but I think Erik Ten Hag could make a good breakthrough after he learns from the experience of his team being beaten by another team.

But if you bring in new players for Manchester United, I think that might be the best way to improve Manchester United's performance.
59  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 13, 2023, 10:30:37 AM
Manchester united must focus to get into the top 4 at the end of season to qualify for the UCL again. It seems like that the performance of manchester united is quite better.
Mu needs to get a new appointment as soon as possible or it will be a disaster for the club.
If they continue playing like this I think even getting into UEFA League qualification will be very difficult. I bet they won't get a spot in the top 4 this season. They really performed badly. I agree with what @rozak said that there is no captain at United at the moment. There is no one who can encourage other players or motivate them in every match. I really see them having bad chemistry overall.
The coach is the person most responsible for everything that happens to the Manchester United team at the moment.
I even highlighted the poor performance of the Manchester United team on all fronts and it is inversely proportional if we look at the quality in this squad so it is clear that Ten Hag is the one who is to blame here.
There is no other possibility and way for Manchester United other than to reshuffle this squad, and in my opinion Ten Hag should be fired from the Manchester United coaching chair because he has really failed to manage the Manchester United team.

Yes, Manchester United's performance this time is down and when played against Bayern I already thought that Manchester United would lose, yes indeed in this case Manchester United coach Erik ten Hag must be able to improve Manchester United's performance, so that their performance will be good.

and I also didn't expect that when Manchester United played with Bournemouth, who were in 14th place in the standings, they had to accept defeat with a score of 0-3 and in terms of utilizing opportunities, Manchester United was not good at that time because at that time they controlled more of the ball in that match by Manchester United but Manchester United's performance is really down.

but of course I hope that Manchester United will return to its good performance like before. Last season, Manchester United managed to become 3rd place, but if you look at the reality now, I don't think Manchester United will necessarily be 3rd place.
60  Economy / Gambling discussion / Re: Premier League Prediction Thread 2023/2024 on: December 12, 2023, 06:15:55 AM
And Tottenham Hotspur's next match is against Nottingham Forest which is currently ranked 16th. Nottingham Forest drew 1-1 against Wolves, but in my opinion at that time Nottingham Forest had the potential to win if the defense was tighter because what I knew at that time was the formation used Nottingham Forest 3-5-2. So I think this formation will make it difficult for Nottingham Forest to defend.
In terms of strength, of course Tottenham is very superior, but of course there are always surprises in every match and in my opinion Tottenham should not underestimate Nottingham Forest because it does not rule out the possibility that Nottingham Forest will win against Tottenham Hotspur. but I chose to bet on Tottenham Hotspur winning, and I hope my guess is correct.
Recently, there have been too many match results that have been quite surprising and beyond most people's predictions. But Tottenham's match against Nottingham shouldn't be too difficult for us to predict. After seeing how Tottenham beat Newcastle yesterday, I am quite confident that Tottenham will win the match against Nottingham. The match will be held at the City Ground stadium. And because City Ground is Nottingham's headquarters, of course this can bring opportunities for Nottingham to perform better than usual. As hosts, Nottingham will definitely play with confidence. But still I will favor Tottenham more.
Well the majority of us would all bet on Tottenham. Even last season, when Tottenham were not at their best, it turned out that Tottenham were always able to beat Nottingham Forest, both at home and away. But we have to remember that we cannot always expect Tottenham's performance. Last season Kane and Son were very sharp spearheads for Tottenham. But this time Son is fighting alone because J.Maddison, who was originally scheduled to return this week, turns out I heard that it will be postponed a month from now. Namely, J. Maddison will probably return in January. Because the recovery process turns out to be quite slow. And until then Tottenham will definitely struggle.



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Yes, it is true that Nottingham Forest will certainly be confident, because they are appearing at home but indeed we will not know what the result will be and usually there are always lots of surprises in matches where a strong team can sometimes end in a draw or a strong team can also lost yes of course there will definitely be many people betting on Tottenham winning because looking at the rankings it is clear that Tottenham is superior to Nottingham Forest.

Yes, I also didn't think that Maddison could be seriously injured and of course his recovery would take a very long time. In my opinion, Maddison is really needed by Tottenham Hotspur because Maddison's game is very good. but I think even without Maddison son and the others, Tottenham Hotspur will definitely maintain its performance to be able to achieve its goals.

Yes, I remember when Tottenham faced Chelsea and Tottenham had to accept defeat with a score of 1-4 and during that match Maddison was injured. Yes, I hope that Maddison can quickly play again for Tottenham so that Tottenham Hotspur's performance can be even better.
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