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301  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 28, 2016, 07:50:08 PM
Thanks for not accusing me of being a sockpuppet Smiley

As you can see, there are three categories in that list: shrills, sockpuppets and "investors". Those three categories intersect with the attributes of greed, naive and idiot. Feel free to define yourself within the boundaries of these. I am sorry, logic dictates there are no more categories and attributes that we can apply to the participants of this scam (i.e. you could be a naive "investor" which is obviously a lot better than being a greedy shrill ... you can see a lot from those in this thread).
302  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 28, 2016, 07:41:24 PM
I spent a small amount of bitcoin (not even 1)

Btw, the reality is, most of the "investors" spent this range of money, 0.5-1 BTC. There are a few with larger investments, but the average amount is around that. Most of the coins were actually bought by the two scammers, and of course this is a no news to anyone who understand how these scams work. No wonder why they desperately try to generate hype with all these sockpuppets and shrills. Buy your own ICO, hype, P&D and unload.
303  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is iota a scam? on: February 28, 2016, 07:16:52 PM
We need more people in this thread, good ole trolling of trolls is a good ending for a weekend evening...

No, what you need is luck (a lot luck) Sergey, when you have such a business partner like this stupid fuck.
304  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 28, 2016, 07:09:02 PM
Vitriol and name-calling and all of the other unnecessary attacks don't reinforce your position against IOTA, it does the opposite.

Yeah, yeah. That's what I did hear during the Moolah and Bitbay scams from Vericoin "investors" and Bobsurplus shrills respectively. The shrills, sockpuppets and "investors" always says that, don't they. What else a naive or idiot (please pick which is applicable to you) can say when he realize the scam is busted.
305  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is iota a scam? on: February 28, 2016, 07:02:45 PM

sorry I can't give some elaborate explanation


Don't be sorry son, we got the full picture. We understand why you don't have a job like others have in your age group and instead of why you are scamming people with your fucked up money collecting parties.
306  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is iota a scam? on: February 28, 2016, 06:57:26 PM
LoL the good news for IOTA investors that this David wanker plays poker. At least there is approximately 1% chance that his IoT/hardware business can generate some revenue - from poker.
307  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is iota a scam? on: February 28, 2016, 06:52:00 PM
The horny prison population will be happy when this little bitch will bring his his fucked up face and his ready to go tight ass to the meat market. A well deserved 24/7 oral and anal sex will be the new business plan for our David boy soon.



  
308  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is iota a scam? on: February 28, 2016, 06:30:21 PM

just continue trolling with not even ONE real person taking you seriously.

To be honest son, I have read only the last paragraph from your long-long desperate post and I didn't even read it further than this quoted sentence. Your delusional explanations about IoT and hardware does not make sense to any rational individual who ever worked a day in technology, and therefore I am not interested any more in your excuses and nonsenses. So if it is too long then I don't read them. Either make it short or accept that I am not interested in your long nonsenses any more. You had enough chances to explain yourself and you have failed miserably.

Here is the bad news for you with regards to that quoted sentence: law enforcements always take seriously my "trolling". They have to be interested, that's their job. They can't say we don't go after David Sønstebø if there is an information regarding to a fraud (the fraud is in your case: selling illegal financial securities plus promising to deliver solutions [JINN, IoT] which you could obviously not deliver with your zero expertise and zero employee business), can they? Therefore, because law enforcement can't ignore such "trolling" the Mooolah scammer Ryan Keneddy is in prison. He was so confident and condescending not long time ago like yourself you stupid fuck, and now he is in jail. Similarly, law enforcement was very interested in the Bitbay as well as in the Banxshare scams and acted upon my submissions. You are fucked this up son in a big time.
309  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 28, 2016, 05:55:27 PM

To get to the point about Elastic Coin, the issue is the unregulated crowd funding. Again, they collect money from the wannabe rich greedy users and from the usual idiots of this microcosmos prior delivering the solution. So they create a speculative asset in the first place instead of creating a solution. The usual argument is, ohhhhh they need financial resource from the idiots to develop the software. I disagree with that. Firstly, there are notable solutions which were delivered without milking the idiots and scamming the public (the solutions of Linus Torvalds or Satoshi Nakamoto comes to mind mind as such), secondly if you need fund then go on the regulated avenues using VC and angel investors or regulated crowdfunding platforms which all provides the investors with some kind of protection. If they still want to do the crowdfunding here, then they must have reputable users on board to oversee the allocation of the fund and ensure the fund is strictly used for technology development.


thanks man.

although it seems crazy to drop few btc to a new ICO, i still feel more comfortable than LISK and IOTA.

thanks for your advices. I am always watching you to find this or that scam, including BITBAY.

I will do some research as well on Elastic Coin and depending on the fund allocation and who is handling the money and how I might give them some money. Just for the sake of supporting a novel technology. Again, the use case is very interesting, it is certainly ambitious but if everything works out then it seems doable. If they will not sell the coin on an exchange to the naives, noobs or idiots then I will be probably interested (that was my condition to the Gadgetcoin developers as well, don't do a P&D and don't sell the coin on an exchange to the naive crowd but instead of try to find a VC investor to develop the project.)


310  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is iota a scam? on: February 28, 2016, 05:30:05 PM
That's fine with me.

Of course it is fine with you. The scam was created for the shrills and idiots like yourself (pick which is applicable to you) who invest in an IoT business and then "fine" with the fact that what you received has nothing to do with IoT. Why would you care you received a few poorly written Java files that implements the IOTA protocol, which of course has nothing to do with Internet of Things. (Let me don't explain here what an IoT system is, how authorization, access control, device management, provisioning, etc. assemble an IoT system, I explained it in other threads). So of course you are fine with that. You are just waiting for the start of the P&D to sell the shit at the expense of the even more idiots who buy into the hype of the IOTA shills and sockpuppets.

311  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is iota a scam? on: February 28, 2016, 05:18:05 PM

IOTA was sold legally as software, plain and simple. IOTA has partnered with different IoT groups and is being adopted into more and more projects. It will go into full beta soon and subsequent release.

Don't lie you pathetic scammer, even if you are too desperate to explain your scam.

a)  IOTA is in breach of all relevant EU and US financial securities regulations. You are defrauding money from these idiots by selling illegal financial securities. You think you will mask the nature of your scam by calling it for software - in fact such desperate misleading masking only highlights the nature of your fraud. You are saying it is a software and it is not a speculative instrument. In the meantime you hype the scam with your predictions and statements about 10-15x ROI - the usual misstep from an incredible primitive scammer. Such misstep was seen that from the Mooolah Ryan Kennedy (who is in jail now), so law enforcement is familiar with wankers like yourself.

b)  Since you are a pathetic scammer and nothing more, you do not have any "IoT groups" that endorse you non existent shit. No IoT solution provider nor an IoT technology business is interested in your non existent vaporware. It would be a surprise if it would be any, as the few Java files that implements the IOTA protocol have nothing to do with IoT application development. The only "groups" which you have any relations to is those Hong Kong based non entity, nobody knows them in the IoT sector.

c)  Despite you promised so many things for the idiots who invested in you, you did not deliver anything in the last four months. You have zero IoT projects. None. You could make zero sell. You couldn't even deliver a fucking GUI in 4 months. No wonder you couldn't deliver anything: you have zero experience in software development and your zero employee IOTA business operates in your momma's basement.

So fuck off scammer and wait for the law enforcement in your momma's basement.
312  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Altcoin Discussion / Re: Is iota a scam? on: February 28, 2016, 04:46:57 PM
Read the unmoderated IOTA thread, you could start here at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1354220.msg14029127#msg14029127 and then you will understand why IOTA is a blatant scam. Zero monetization route for the technology, never mind the fact that they do not have any IoT technology nor the resources and expertise to create one.

You must understand, scams like IOTA have nothing to do with technology, business nor monetization. The monetization route and business model of the IOTA scam are based on the concept of milking money from the idiots. It is a straightforward law enforcement matter, just like Mooolah, Bitbay and Banxshare scams were.
313  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 28, 2016, 04:29:16 PM

I think you are right about that these LISK, JINN, IOTA fraudsters. As you said they ride the BTC and ETH waves. The building stone of their business model is the idiocy of their uninformed and uneducated supporters.

I noticed that Elastic Coin project and I think the objective of the project is fine. Generally I like projects which objective is to deliver a real solution in a niche area. I even liked to theme of the AI project of that Joe guy until it turned out the fat wanker is a truly asshole con artist which was actually a quick realization once his shills and sockpuppets shown up in the thread (I did lots of work on AI software when I was young and I was happy to see someone try something in that field, but that coin was a blatant scam).
I think projects like Skycoin or Ethereum - regardless whether it yield "ROI" or not - could deliver a socially important solution, and therefore they worth some crowdfunding support.
I noticed the SIA sign in your signature, their use case worth the effort as well. Personally I don't think a decentralized file system is a viable technology proposition, never mind that it is viable business proposition, because I think there is no monetization route for decentralized file system solutions. Having said that, the viability of the idea must be validated and therefore, it's great the SIA guys try to do that. It could be the case with that Elastic Coin as well. The project identifies a real world use case and then aims to provide a solution for it. A niche area use case that relates to a valid information technology challenge. The keyword is the niche, as a start-up has a better chance to succeed by creating solution for a niche, unoccupied business place instead of go against multibillion dollar, well established companies, which is what the LISK fraudsters try to accomplish by saying we will create an ecosystem for application development (DAP) and then the world will magically start using it. In the meantime their USP is that the pathetic thing is written in fucking Nodejs, so the shills go around saying that bohooooo it is written in Nodejs, it is revolutionary (any rational individual can see what a fucking nonsense the whole LISK proposition is).

To get to the point about Elastic Coin, the issue is the unregulated crowd funding. Again, they collect money from the wannabe rich greedy users and from the usual idiots of this microcosmos prior delivering the solution. So they create a speculative asset in the first place instead of creating a solution. The usual argument is, ohhhhh they need financial resource from the idiots to develop the software. I disagree with that. Firstly, there are notable solutions which were delivered without milking the idiots and scamming the public (the solutions of Linus Torvalds or Satoshi Nakamoto comes to mind mind as such), secondly if you need fund then go on the regulated avenues using VC and angel investors or regulated crowdfunding platforms which all provides the investors with some kind of protection. If they still want to do the crowdfunding here, then they must have reputable users on board to oversee the allocation of the fund and ensure the fund is strictly used for technology development.
314  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN][LISK] Lisk | ICO | Decentralized Application & Sidechain Platform on: February 28, 2016, 01:23:47 AM
Scam alert. LISK is nothing more than a pathetic money collecting party.

What you think about LISK?

LISK is a pretty much similar scam. Crypti ran out of money - just like JINN did - and then two wankers - similar to IOTA - started a new money collecting party, which is LISK. There is precisely zero chance that anyone ever will use the Crypti or LISK solution in any real world businesses or projects. Just like Crypti was unable to attract any real world use cases, businesses, users in the last 18 months, LISK will be unable to serve any real world use cases as well. There is simply no market for these digital excrements in the context of real world business processes. LISK is nothing more than a pathetic P&D speculative instrument. The greedy "investors" of LISK - just like the shrills of IOTA - try to roll out a P&D at the expenses of naive idiots who will buy into the hype and P&D. Again, the sad state of crypto currencies: nobody cares about these shits outside of this scam driven Bitcointalk microcosmos. Their social and commercial importance in global level is precisely zero. Except Bitcoin (and perhaps Ethereum), the whole ecosystem is a completely irrelevant proposition and a dead end.


315  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 28, 2016, 01:15:38 AM
What you think about LISK?

LISK is a pretty much similar scam. Crypti ran out of money - just like JINN did - and then two wankers - similar to IOTA - started a new money collecting party, which is LISK. There is precisely zero chance that anyone ever will use the Crypti or LISK solution in any real world businesses or projects. Just like Crypti was unable to attract any real world use cases, businesses, users in the last 18 months, LISK will be unable to serve any real world use cases as well. There is simply no market for these digital excrements in the context of real world business processes. LISK is nothing more than a pathetic P&D speculative instrument. The greedy "investors" of LISK - just like the shrills of IOTA - try to roll out a P&D at the expenses of naive idiots who will buy into the hype and P&D. Again, the sad state of crypto currencies: nobody cares about these shits outside of this scam driven Bitcointalk microcosmos. Their social and commercial importance in global level is precisely zero. Except Bitcoin (and perhaps Ethereum), the whole ecosystem is a completely irrelevant proposition and a dead end.


316  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 28, 2016, 12:41:10 AM
While AltcoinUK is quite the basket case, he happens to be right: This, just like JINN and NXT itself, is a clear ponzi scam.

Not a lot unlike the other he supports, Gadget, mind you...

I support Bitcoin in the the first place and with the majority of my money, and I do support projects which try to deliver something real. The Gadgetcoin developers have about 2-3 weeks to deliver what they promised (a real IoT solution) and then the party is over as far as my concerns - if they are unable to deliver then they will be in trouble with me. I support Ethereum from day one, because at the time their smart contract concept was a genuinely novel idea and I thought there is a slight chance that they can deliver a real and useful decentralized blockchain technology for real world businesses. I am sure you remember how much I was talking about the smart contract concept and its potential to deliver a fantastic return on investment. The financial success is there all right, but I am very unhappy with the direction of ETH and the current meaningless and baseless P&D. If the direction doesn't change then I will exit. C'est la vie. I will give the profit to some charity. I support Skycoin, because the mesh network concept is a socially important initiative and I believe the developer is smart enough to deliver it. If he delivers the mesh network than the society as a whole will benefit from it (see the totalitarian trends in politics which makes the mesh network an important initiative). I will support TPTB_need_war. He is probably not from the Samaritans as well, but he is at least intelligent enough to don't base his project on a blatant scam like these IOTA/JINN wankers did so most likely he will deliver something useful.

In 95% of the cases you are spot on about all kind of things. It doesn't surprise me you understand better than anyone does here - including me - that JINN and IOTA are blatant scams. There is nothing to do with these low life fraudsters except contact law enforcement, let law enforcement handle the case and put them in jail, next to the Moolah scammer Ryan Kennedy. The sockpuppets and shrills were trolling 18 months ago - like now the IOTA sockpuppets and shrills troll all over the place - when I said that I will contact law enforcement about Moolah. Now, the Moolah scammer Ryan Kennedy is in prison. It was you and me who pointed out the Bitbay scam. Now the Bitbay scammers are being investigated by law enforcement. The good news for the future victims of this blatant IOTA/JIN scam is that David boy and the Belarusian will end up in prison as well, and then some of the money will be recovered. Still, the fact that these scammers took over the crypto currency market is indeed a very sad state of affairs.

317  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 27, 2016, 06:54:45 PM
Apparently, the IOTA scammers think the address of their "office" (i.e. David's momma's basement) shouldn't be public. LoL LoL Apparently, they demand from the moderators to delete the posts with regards to the address of their office. Such company information for the very good reasons and by definition is public. David boy, the chief scammer of IOTA operates the IOTA/JINN business - remember, the business which suppose to take on Intel with its revolutionary microprocessor hardware - from his momma's basement at Reinemoveien 8, Hvittingfoss, Norway. However, he thinks such information (the company's public address) should not appear in the public. He thinks the IOTA company address and the picture of his "office" (i.e. his momma's basement) should be hidden. These scammers are lack of common sense, I guess that's why they are scammers in the first place.

318  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Marketplace (Altcoins) / Re: [IOTA] IOTA Speculation on: February 27, 2016, 06:23:28 PM
For the IOTA sockpuppets and shills (90% of the audience here)




I see you question the ability to create a new processor to rival or surpass the likes of intel or samsung. This seems a reasonable thing to question.

Not only reasonable, but the only rational act is to question that.

Remember, these scammers lured out money from the idiots via the JINN scam by promising that they deliver a revolutionary, game changer, disruptive microprocessor. Intel, Motorola, TI, Samsung, etc. with their combined 10 billion $ per year R&D budget weren't able to deliver such radically new design. Does anyone apart from the idiots who invested in JINN/IOTA seriously suggests that the two scammers from Norway and Belarus will deliver what Intel couldn't?

One of those country side, remote buildings in this picture is David boy's momma's basement in Hvittingfoss, Norway. One of those country side buildings is the great IOTA/JINN office. Really? The JINN idiots invested in this wanker, so he can take on on Intel with his ZERO employee business from that country side place. As I said, this scam is more than pathetic.




Does the entire concept of IOTA rely on this processor to function~? I mean IOTA will not be able to function on your usual windows 7 pc like other coins?

The question is not whether the IOTA token works or not? The question is, can these wankers from their momma's basement deliver an IoT business? There is no point to repeat my posts so please read my posts with regards to this, but briefly:
- they have zero experience in IoT. Remember, David boy is in his twenties (B.D. 1989) and he has never delivered any commercial solution. His zero employee business operates from his momma's basement.
- they do not have any IoT system nor the experience and expertise to create one
- there is no monetization rout for digital currencies in the IoT sector at this moment in time (I explained why and anyone who has ever done anything with IoT understands that)
- just as I predicted, they made zero progress in selling their IoT solution (which is not a surprise as they do not have any). During the last 4 months, only progress they made is forming a "partnership" with the Hong Kong based chainofthings group which is a completely irrelevant non-entity in the IoT sector. They have made zero partnership with any IoT solution provider. Zero comemrcial deals. None. Zero revenue - except the money the lured out from the idiots. In the IoT world nobody cares about these scammers. As I pointed out, the blockchain technology and digital currency is not what commercial IoT providers are interested in. No wonder the Ethereum hype about IBM's ADEPT is a dead end proposition (see my post about it in the Viacoin thread at https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=699278.msg13967127#msg13967127 ).
- when they collected the money, the Belarusian scammer promised that a GUI will come by Christmas with chat functions, etc. Of course they delivered nothing, which is very much in line with the absolutely non-delivery of JINN.

Are you serious at the slightest not realizing that David boy couldn't even handle the simple project management task of GUI design, but you are assuming that he can create and manage a serious IoT business?

It is more than run the solution on a Windows 7 PC. I understand the idiots and wannabe rich greedy "investors" don't care about IoT (they just want to make profit at the expense of even more idiot noobs), but David boy's scam main theme was IoT. That is one reason the scammer boy will have to go to jail.


319  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 27, 2016, 06:04:05 PM
rather just at the hope of turning a profit if things worked out well.

Here is the issue: if there is no real business behind the coin that generates profit and pays dividend for the coin holders nor the coin is used by a real world business operation (pretty much 99.9% of all coins) then you can make money only at the expense of naive users who buy into the hype. You can make only profit by creating bagholders. That is a scam. I fully understand, currently that is the state of crypto and except BTC and a few legit projects all others are based on this, but such scams bring nothing else than bad name to crypto and of course financial loss to the victims of the scams (i.e. bagholders).

The IOTA scammers creates no IoT solution and of course no microprocessor and they create only bagholders. Are you OK making profit like this?
320  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: IOTA - Unmoderated thread on: February 27, 2016, 05:52:40 PM
[...] I understand the idiots and wannabe rich greedy "investors" don't care about IoT (they just want to make profit at the expense of even more idiot noobs), [...]

This reminds me of something ...



Hurrahh. LiQio, the sockpuppet who always appears when David boy or CfB are in trouble is back ... and as usual talks nonsense.

You are a pathetic liar, you know very well as we have discussed that transaction many times, I sold that GDC (plus some of my shares in the GDC business) with the permission of the GDC developers and with the condition of bringing in a serious guy into the GDC project. As you know very well, the guy who bought that Gadgetcoin is a serious IoT investor and he owns an IoT solution provider business. We discussed that many times, but of course you are shilling so hard this IOTA that you conveniently forget that. The buyer of that transaction has been working since with tzpardi (one of the GDC developers) to create a solution for his IoT company.

That's the difference: you scam by presenting a vaporware and collect money for it, on the other hand I bring real investors and real businesses to any project I work with (go and ask the GDC developers or Gavin Wood from Ethereum what real projects and real work I have brought to their operations).

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