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The freedom BTC brings is second to none, as its not controlled by government authorities and you can easily make transactions with it across the globe. For people thinking BtC is some sort of pyramid scheme, they should take out time to study Bitcoin white paper 📜🗞️ as it gives an insight to the knowledge they seek.
I have seen many people emphasizing on the freedom of Bitcoin, actually Bitcoin will give you chance to do any other thing you want if you are dealing with Bitcoin kind of investment, but a process whereby you are a trader i think you need more time or concentration in the market so that you won't experience lose, the aspect that i will agree with some of you concept of Bitcoin becoming freedom, is the aspect that it doesn't have a third party from my understanding, so therefore i believe that Bitcoin needs more concentration before you make out what's obtainable for the market of trading and long term investment of bitcoin. Yes, after I got to know the basics, I didn't treat bitcoin as an investment, but as a protection and preservation of assets. As beginner when you meet people who skeptical about bitcoin what you need to do is first go verify from people who have been into bitcoin who can share their experience with you for you to get more understanding . Many lose opportunities of investing bitcoin long ago because of what they heard from people with ignorance. If they had gone to make research, they would seen the real face and understanding about bitcoin. Those who talk bad about bitcoin knows nothing that is why they reason very low about bitcoin.
Those who know nothing about bitcoin will only make bad comments and influence others that nothing can be expected from bitcoin. It's easy enough to influence people who are new who are on their way to knowing what bitcoin really is. Skeptics will only give advice about being careful with bitcoin without any solution. Investment opportunities must be created from the start, investing in bitcoin is a worthwhile investment when you believe that bitcoin will give you a return. Do some research to better understand what is being invested in. Bitcoin and its power of freedom is similar to the iPhone and its power for mobility. Often when someone has no idea about something, they immediately take a negative attitude towards it. That is even more the case when that new something is a threat to their old something. Or when they missed the train and the new something is already making people happy. One of the best examples in technology history is Steve Ballmer from Microsoft back then laughing about the iPhone. Today he says that was the biggest mistake of his lifetime as a Microsoft CEO. Or when Warren Buffett talks about Bitcoin as rat poison, there is no need to call it that way. But it obviously takes away bit by bit from the investor crowd that otherwise could put money into investments he is holding. There is always a saying: whoever arrives at the source first drinks the clean water, whoever understood satoshi's creation will drink the cleanest water first. As beginner when you meet people who skeptical about bitcoin what you need to do is first go verify from people who have been into bitcoin who can share their experience with you for you to get more understanding . Many lose opportunities of investing bitcoin long ago because of what they heard from people with ignorance. If they had gone to make research, they would seen the real face and understanding about bitcoin. Those who talk bad about bitcoin knows nothing that is why they reason very low about bitcoin.
Investment opportunities must be created from the start, investing in bitcoin is a worthwhile investment when you believe that bitcoin will give you a return. I would not consider bitcoin as an investment, if I want to escape the clutches of the state, preserve my assets over time, I particularly do not consider bitcoin as an investment. |
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Damn thats one hack of a strategy of them. And all I Thought they are helping crypto fin SEC Approval of BItcoin Spot ETF. They can try forking and probably will win if their network will have more liquidity.
All the institutions in wallstreet going for BTC EFT OF Blackrock will realy destroy crypto or they could end up like BTC CASH?
Yes, I also think about this possibility, even if it happens I have my belief, then I dissolve btcblack and play for the normal bitcoin network, there is the doubt will the network win? or go to the side that has more consistency? or do we lose computational power? Even so, I continue with my thoughts, encryption will not make more sense to me if it continues on a centralized network. |
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BlackRock entering their bitcoin ETF in the beginning will be a boon for the price of Bitcoin, but in the long run it will be a nightmare for the community, on page 24 BlackRock says it will choose the side of the net, and when that happens will the will we go along with BlackRock? and miners go looking for the fork that provides more liquidity, this is a nightmare for decentralization for a company with a lot of power to enter bitcoin that has not yet reached its maturity.
I don't think that it will ever be a nightmare because if an asset manager like Blackrock is interested into Bitcoin and is making its way to enter the crypto-market then that will be really good things for the market and for the miners. The market will continue growing because of such news, and the investors will gain more confidence to invest in Bitcoin. I hope things will improve further in the market, and we will soon be able to see another pump that would take price of BTC above $30k range. Let's hope for the best! You're only thinking about the price of Bitcoin, not what a big fund manager can do to Bitcoin's fundamentals, manipulation by her, to be able to have a big influence on the crypto market. But without a doubt Bitcoin with this etf the market value will explode, what makes me worried is BlackRock's influence on the market, the essence of bitcoin is decentralization, and not being censored the same as happened with the eth mix. Anyway, I'm behind on this big change, but let's see how the network will reorganize itself in the future. |
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I recently synchronized a lightning network node using umbrel application store, I have already fully synchronized my bitcoin node, and opened a random channel with another user in the mempool, my difficulty when I generate a new address for deposit via lightning network, when I transfer from another wallet Lightning wallet always gives error when routing the payment, can someone help me how to solve this?
this belongs in a different section give me a minute I will find the section. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=6.0I asked mods to move to technical section. thanks |
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I recently synchronized a lightning network node using umbrel application store, I have already fully synchronized my bitcoin node, and opened a random channel with another user in the mempool, my difficulty when I generate a new address for deposit via lightning network, when I transfer from another wallet Lightning wallet always gives error when routing the payment, can someone help me how to solve this?
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I do not see this BlackRock's entry as a breakthrough for cryptography, rather an attack on future network decentralization.
Im not sure though. Bitcoin's utility is a store of value now the world works with money involved with it. This people who are interacted with bitcoin for investment scheme can also have their freedom to do so. Well they are using bitcoin though as Satoshi wanted too. Anyone can use bitcoin for peer to peer transaction, if you are aiming for that then these huge people are included also on those Satoshi's goal whether they use bitcoin big or small. They may have agenda for themselves but that isnt out of control. I understand, but my biggest fear would not be these big companies themselves using Bitcoin for capital gains, and thus having the power to influence other users and miners to follow their fork. I could be completely wrong and doubting the miners, but it would be very naive to believe that the miners would stay in the main network just to reap a little reward, there would be no incentive from the network to protect it, and the block reward would not pay the expense of machine and energy. I think in this way that in the future the fork could harm the fundamentals of the Bitcoin network. |
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If I see your main concern in the above argument is the potential impact of BlackRock's entry into the Bitcoin market. reflecting concerns about the long-term consequences of BlackRock's presence in terms of the community and decentralization of Bitcoin.
Why? First, BlackRock's entry into the Bitcoin market through an ETF (Exchange-Traded Fund) can be considered as a step that could increase institutional adoption and give the digital currency greater legitimacy. In many cases, the entry of institutional players is often seen as a sign of progress and legitimacy for the asset.
Second, with respect to decentralization concerns, it is important to remember that decentralization is one of the main pillars of Bitcoin. The blockchain on which Bitcoin is based is designed to ensure security, transparency, and broad participant involvement. While BlackRock's presence may have had some influence, the structure that the Bitcoin network has built can enable wider community participation to influence the direction of development and deal with challenges that may arise.
Third, if any forks happen in the future, be it based on a BlackRock decision or some other reason, we need to view them as part of market evolution and growth. Forks do not necessarily signify conflict or failure, but are often the result of a difference of opinion and an exploration of innovation within the cryptocurrency ecosystem. In situations like these, the Bitcoin community has the opportunity to participate in the decision-making process and determine the desired direction.
So, if you look at the long-term implications of BlackRock's entry into the Bitcoin market, they are still speculative and cannot be predicted with certainty.
I still can't understand, if blackrock makes a fork with a higher ensuance of earnings for miners, they will go to the network that is more profitable, I hope I'm wrong, because that would end the fundamentals of bitcoin. Isnt that an intiative that a huge firm are making their move to a more legit way where institutions might get attracted with it. With a lots of fud going on btc, this step up might help in regaining a sense of trust to crypto industry. Since cex has been crucified hard by US SEC. Well for me this a positive sign considering whats going on lately. BlackRock is a big firm and others even anon whales could notice its a bullish effect or not.
I understand that there is a lot of fud, but I do not understand that a company will design the best for the network following the current objective of the network, it has the power to manipulate information and thus create a new narrative for a fork of its enterrsse, I do not see this BlackRock's entry as a breakthrough for cryptography, rather an attack on future network decentralization. |
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BlackRock entering their bitcoin ETF in the beginning will be a boon for the price of Bitcoin, but in the long run it will be a nightmare for the community, on page 24 BlackRock says it will choose the side of the net, and when that happens will the will we go along with BlackRock? and miners go looking for the fork that provides more liquidity, this is a nightmare for decentralization for a company with a lot of power to enter bitcoin that has not yet reached its maturity.
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Why not create several pools and further decentralize the network? The biggest computational power is in the main pools f2pool, antpool and foundry usa, and why not take advantage of the computational power left in the ethereum video cards and put it in the bitcoin network to further decentralize the network??? I have a solution! create several pools concentrated in certain amounts of miners where each miner will choose their pool and will help the network with their computational power, the pools that come out ahead and mine a block should share the reward for the participants of that pool that was awarded . I think of this more practical solution to further decentralize the network.
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I saw a post in the crypto newspaper that trezor is going to implement a censorship protocol called coinjoin, I wanted to know the impact of this on us who use bitcoin, in my thinking it would be something contrary to what bitcoin is.
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I believe that in the future bitcoin will be worth more than fiat currency
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Why only put 21 million units in the source code?
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Como reivindicar o prêmio?
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Fui um dos que votou em Bolsonaro em 2018 mais no mandato interino fui um dos que me sentir enojado em ter voltado naquele corrupto, como mercionei no topico descrevir o orçamento secreto que pra mim foi uma das bizarrice do governo dele, então não, não perdi meu tempo em frente de quartel. Tenho um certo receio a essas novas medidas do governo em impor medidas drásticas no desespero de controlar esse comércio.
O Bitcoin não precisa de nenhuma autoridade central para ser regulamentado, tenho esse mesmo receio no futuro quem comprar será perseguido pelo seu public address, pois o cerco está sendo fechado e de forma silenciosa vão implantando silenciosamente pix é um meio que foi implantado e quando a cbdc chegar o controle total vai ser feito.
Infelizmente, como não podemos de deixar de viver debaixo de um governo, temos de saber lidar com eles. Então o importante é conhecer bem o que as leis dizem sobre os assuntos em que estamos envolvidos, para saber como lidar com elas da melhor maneira possível e evitar problemas. Como o Bitmover comentou, procure antes de partilhar informação, saber ao certo qual é a informação realmente necessária para o seu caso. Depois, procure fazer tudo certinho, para nunca ter problemas com a Fazendo. O problema de ter uma vez problema com eles, é que eles depois parece que nunca mais largam uma pessoa. Então é estar bem atento. Através dessa revolta conheci o Bitcoin e toda a sua gama tecnologica e poder que ela da o indivíduo. |
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Com o fim do soreito de carnaval patrocinado pelo @rdluffy, decidi fazer o meu próprio para tentar incentivar a permanencia dos membros que estavam meio sumidos e deram as caras nessa semana. Prêmio: 0,0008 BTC O bloco do resultado será o 779160, que deve sair no dia 03/03/2023 ( aproximadamente). Regras:1. Qualquer membro pode participar desde que tenha pelo menos 1 merit na nossa aba. 2. Caso não haja ganhador, será utilizado os blocos seguintes. 3. Caso seja um usuário que havia sumido (e.g não postava nada ou muito pouco há mais de 1 mês), ele pode participar com 2 tickets. Caso hajam vagas sobrando próximo ao resultado, esse usuário pode escolher mais um ticket (totalizando 3!). Não tem um críterio exato preestabelecido para tempo de ausência.
0 - bitmover 1 - 2 - Paredao 3 - lcharles123 4 - Lucasgabd 5 - 6 - 7 - lcharles123 8 - tg88 9 - a - tg88 b - rdluffy c - d - e - f - alegotardo eu vou de 5 |
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Tenho um certo receio a essas novas medidas do governo em impor medidas drásticas no desespero de controlar esse comércio.
O Bitcoin não precisa de nenhuma autoridade central para ser regulamentado, tenho esse mesmo receio no futuro quem comprar será perseguido pelo seu public address, pois o cerco está sendo fechado e de forma silenciosa vão implantando silenciosamente pix é um meio que foi implantado e quando a cbdc chegar o controle total vai ser feito.
Imposto é uma via de duas mãos, eu acho ele injusto já que vivemos em um país onde corruptos estão no poder, eu presenciei o mensalão o petróleo a lava-jato e o orçamento secreto e agora em 2023 vemos o maior ladrão da história do Brasil voltar o poder, aí eu pergunto vale a pena financiar esse estado? E quanto vale a sua liberdade tendo em vista que o estado vai ter sobre todos indivíduo?
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The first impression of btc is that you will get screwed by false people that it is a pyramid scheme. The more you study the net, the more you'll fall in love with it. BTC brings that power of freedom and no totalitarian state is going to take that away! That's my thought today about btc.
You'll only get screwed if you don't know what you invest in, investing in something you don't actually know is far more than a blind investment. Pyramid schemes that were introduced as investments, trading, mining, etc. by these fraudulent people just to hide their motives are the thing that kills adoption most of the time for crypto. Let us all thank Satoshi Nakamoto and the people that made us realize what Bitcoin is today and the future that may comes. Perfect in the analysis, btc is gold in the digital environment it has its value, and each one in the future will pay the amount they deserve today I pay 23 thousand in the future I can pay 1 million or even less than 23 thousand which I do not believe, more if btc doesn't change its fundamentals i'm always long.
The first impression of btc is that you will get screwed by false people that it is a pyramid scheme. The more you study the net, the more you'll fall in love with it. BTC brings that power of freedom and no totalitarian state is going to take that away! That's my thought today about btc.
Bitcoin is indeed a pyramid scheme because it’s value is based on the investment of the people and the first person who bought and hold will benefits on the purchased of the new investors. Pyramid scheme is not bad since that’s how investment work and trading. Those early investors will get profit from new investors as the company or crypto value grow. Ponzi and Hyip are bad and commonly mistaken as the pyramid scheme. This type of investment just use pyramid scheme but add a catch which user will get passive profit without doing anything. As I said, I don't see it that way, but it is well known that it is the way you described it, but as I mentioned above, I see bitcoin as a freedom against the state, where the individual does not ask permission from banks or anyone to move their money to whoever wants it and nobody, the interesting thing about bitcoin is that purpose it is a tool to be further explored over time. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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Pyramid scheme is everywhere, every industry and it is not limited in Bitcoin or cryptocurrency.
Let's get something straight here, Bitcoin is not a pyramid scheme, and nothing in its mode of operation suggests or encourages such. A pyramid scheme is a referral-sustenance scheme that often collapses over time, and a typical example is a Ponzi scheme. In the end, there are always victims and it relies on new subscribers for it to thrive. Bitcoin is certainly nothing like that, no one is compelling anyone to bring another person/subscriber for the sake of benefit(s). I think you understood the friend's answer wrong, what he meant there are companies in the real world that use bitcoin and financial pyramid cryptos, he didn't mean that bitcoin is a pyramid! |
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A totalitarian state is about total control, and that includes economic control, but it's first and foremost about political control. Bitcoin gives freedom, yes, but it is economic (financial) freedom, not political. A state that aims to control citizens more is unlikely to be pro-Bitcoin, but might allow it if there is a good reason because a bit financial freedom is not what this state wants to control the most about its citizens. Also, Bitcoin's power can unfortunately be greatly limited by the state and circumstances. For example, Bitcoin is a decentralized form of money, but how empowering is it when the merchants don't accept it as a form of payment? Bitcoin is pseudonymous, but how helpful is it if the state requires all legal exchanges to impose KYC? So it's not all that simple, unfortunately, even though Bitcoin does give some power of freedom.
Yes, this is very complex, but over time and with new ideas, the community can adopt other mechanisms to escape KYC. That would be a great discussion about this subject that sooner or later is already imposing in our lives in a silent way.
Many people leave their btc in exchange
If you know anyone like that, please introduce them to read Reminder: do not keep your money in online accounts
I usually when I receive a few reais of my currency I prefer to accumulate and every time it drops I buy a few fractions of btc then withdrawing it to a self-custody wallet.
It's a good practice but if the amount you receive or accumulate is small, I'd suggest you to hold it on exchanges for a while and only withdraw it to your self-custody wallet when your calculation shows that withdrawal fee does not eat up the amount you have. Centralized exchanges charge very expensive withdrawal fee even they do batch payment for many user withdrawals. Yes I understand, I try very hard to evangelize my friends, but they don't care or are not interested, I've tried to evangelize my family but they say I'm crazy. This is not just an investment and when I understand this I am not afraid of the falls that bitcoin has. [moderator's note: consecutive posts merged] |
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The first impression of btc is that you will get screwed by false people that it is a pyramid scheme.
Pyramid scheme is everywhere, every industry and it is not limited in Bitcoin or cryptocurrency. The more you study the net, the more you'll fall in love with it.
It's not completely true. There are supporters (Bitcoin maximalists) and there are haters. Bitcoin is not able to convince everyone to love it. BTC brings that power of freedom and no totalitarian state is going to take that away!
Again, it's untrue and inaccurate. Have you ever heard a saying "Not your keys, not your coins" that is originated by Andreas M. Antonopoulos. VideoYour statement is only true if you store your bitcoin in a non-custodial (aka self-custodial) wallet and own its key. Perfect in analysis. Many people leave their btc in exchange, I usually when I receive a few reais of my currency I prefer to accumulate and every time it drops I buy a few fractions of btc then withdrawing it to a self-custody wallet. |
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