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1  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 13, 2023, 09:25:42 PM
I waited for 6 confirmations for the fees deducted.
You didn't have to wait for 6 confirmations. You could make your new transaction even when those transactions were still unconfirmed.

Note that with canceling a transaction and then making a new one, you have to pay fee for two transactions and you waste some money.
Instead of canceling the first transaction and then making a new one, you could bump the fee. With bumping the fee, you replace your transaction with a new one spending more fee.

Sure but the estimated time for the parent transaction was set to 24 hours for two days. The thing is i couldn't double spend because no BTC funds were in that wallet left after the transaction which i eventually canceled. By double spending i mean bumping the fee. This option didn't turn white on electrum. So i canceled the transaction, fees were deducted and made a new one. I know that you don't have to wait but just to be sure I waited which was only minutes.

Made the new transaction and you are right i effectively paid around 28 USD in fees for a final transaction of around 30 USD lmao. However i don't care about (this) money. I learned something which is good. Ohh well plebs like me being plebs. I'm learning slowly. I think all this time i paid too many fees for some transaction i didn't inmidiatly needed. Next time I'll make sure to pay the minimum required fees (for the time i want it to be processed in depending on the nature of the transaction). No double spending or cancelation of TX is needed. Btw I realise that's about the same thing right?
2  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 13, 2023, 05:30:54 PM
Thanks again all. Actually i managed to do it finally within minutes. I canceled the small transaction. With that the parent transaction which was pending for too long. After cancellation those transactions were replaced by fees. Don't know how else to put it i am probably saying it wrong.

But when the child and parent transaction were cancelled they both inmideatly jumped to one confirmation. I waited for 6 confirmations for the fees deducted. Then i made a new transaction and it arrived within 10 minutes. Simple. Hard to explain tho since I'm a pleb lol. I really appreciate all the help. Active forum with deep technical understanding of bitcoin.. pretty rare. Btw isn't this like the perfect time for miners in a long while?

Well that's true. However i can control it fine when it's just sitting in my ledger. Well that's actually wrong it's not fysically in my ledger but you get the point. Can control it as long as I don't mess with it lmao.
3  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 13, 2023, 03:30:31 AM
Sure but i paid fees total of 30k sats and according to mempool it's not going to be processed anytime soon. Maybe thats because the parent transaction has much higher fees than the new transaction.


Canceled new transaction. Waited for the replacement (fees only) to get confirmed and then made a new transaction. Received the new one within minutes. All in all about 20 USD fees for 30 USD transaction by the last try.

Edit canceled the small transaction and the parent one got canceled with that. Waited until the fees deducted from my account to get confirmed. Send new payment and received it within minutes. Note to all other newbies. When you click on cancel tx. Wait for the fees that you paid (to get confirmed) before you send out a new transaction. I canceled tx and right after i made a new transaction. Don't do this. Wait for the balance that is returned to your balance and the fees deducted to get confirmed on the blockchain.

Take note that what matters to miners is the fee rate, not the absolute fee.
The fee paid for the parent is higher than the fee paid for the child, but its fee rate is lower. The fee rate used for the parent is 20.1 sat/vbyte and the fee rate used for the child is 93.3 sat/vbyte.


I think the fees i paid for this small transaction is more than enough. But protocols are protocols.
The parent isn't a small transaction. It includes 20 inputs and has the virtual size of around 1400 vbyte.

Thank you for the help but my brain is already dead. I'm done. I canceled sister payment and now balance is 0. I hate electrum now and trust wallet. Why in gods name can they not make a transaction fool proof?? Why allow to send with less fee and 20 inputs? Why. I don't get it at all. Fuck this bitcoin. Why electrum let's you make a payment when the parent one isn't yet confirmed and also the newer one with less fees. Didn't even get a warning only that i pay unusual high fees. Fucking bitcoin man i thought you were a simple coin. Lmao I'm gonna sleep under my rock again like Patrick.
4  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 12, 2023, 07:37:59 PM


Sure but i paid fees total of 30k sats and according to mempool it's not going to be processed anytime soon. Maybe thats because the parent transaction has much higher fees than the new transaction. I think this transaction will get purged too after two weeks. It's not broadcaster and signed hence i could and probably still can cancel the tx. I think the fees i paid for this small transaction is more than enough. But protocols are protocols. Good luck to the people willing to pay 20 USD fees for small transactions in order to get it confirmed. I understand the miners tho. You have to stay profitable.
5  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 12, 2023, 02:38:40 PM
Very technical but after a look at the mempool again i dont believe it is going to be confirmed today or tomorrow or even a week from now. Because that first transaction will never be confirmed lol. It's stuck at 24 hours estimated time since yesterday and not moving. I'm going to write this little piece off as a lost and remove the imported electrum wallet. Dont trust this wallet anymore (officially trust since it's an import seed from that). Just going to resume on new electrum wallets. Not going to make this mistake again.
6  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 12, 2023, 11:00:57 AM
Thank you i finally understand that bit. It's basically the same transaction. I canceled the tx from my earlier transaction and the funds where send to my own balance again on electrum. Then i made a second transaction which I'm waiting for now. So by cancelling my first transaction I have to wait for those funds that returned to my wallet (to confirm) before i made the second transaction to confirm. Electrum let me make transaction anyway. That's why it's stuck on 30 min on mempool forever (estimated time for confirmation).
7  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 12, 2023, 10:43:33 AM
Man i really don't understand that sorry. By parent consolidating you mean the transaction that i canceled right? Because it's almost the same in amount. How can they both be confirmed? That would mean i get the funds two times? There is only about 45 USD in that wallet. I'm thinking all those inputs are from the failed transactions earlier? In other words the parent transaction has been cancelled but still needs to be confirmed? I'm not gonna up the fees. Don't care about this transaction but want to learn the technical procedure when something like this happens in order to avoid it in the future, altho i think using electrum instead of trust from now on will do the job. 20 inputs..
8  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 12, 2023, 10:12:40 AM
Thank you guys for all the extra info. Trying to learn a bit. Regarding my transaction it has been more than 25 hours lol.  Can anyone explain to me why mempool has two sections for the fees? Fees paid: 93.3 sats. Effective fees: 25.4 sats. Actual fees 10k sats, so three. My IQ is just as rekt as my transaction and obviously English is not my native language so sorry for that.

https://mempool.space/nl/tx/328d3229123b9b41840ee5c2d5d868b2a9f2d57ac2f92e56a06ebab83e2a08a6
9  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 11, 2023, 05:54:26 PM
This is still a transaction made from electrum using the twt seed in order to empty the wallet. Funds are still funds.
Will never use trust wallet after this and make several new electrum wallets. Hoping i get this sorted out first tho.
Glad that your problem has been resolved, and sorry Trust Wallet makes things look easy for beginners, but as soon as any problems occur, the headaches are violent.

Seed associated with that wallet contain serval cryptos other than Bitcoin, so if you have a balance other than Bitcoin, it may be best to check  before you decide to new wallet. It is also better to use a newly generated wallet in the future instead of the seeds that you got from the Electrum wallet.

Actually i have several trust wallets (and i can send larger amounts without any problems (ridiculous fees though even for higher amounts). Getting new electrum wallets with different seeds to empty those. Nog going to import them tho but just emptying them by a transaction from trust to new electrum wallets.

 I never keep funds long on wallets anyway. For that i use a ledger. I guess trust wallet is way more efficient using bch. But honestly this whole experience with trust wallet is just sad especially when it comes to the support. I'm guessing this whole spike in mempool is because of the new shitcoins on btc? So people willing to pay extremely high fees for small transactions? Ohh and trust wallet still has issues with the swaps even on the other wallets. So they have a rating of 4.7 in the playstore and electrum a 3.7? Lol.

I have used electrum a long time ago (on desktop) and it always did what it was supposed to do however the interface was like something from 1998 and i remember some problems but none of my transactions were ever stuck or whatever (yes sometimes it did take a while but not this long). I don't even know if it's possible for a btc transaction to get stuck even when you send it with like 2 sats fees it should in theory eventually arrive correct?

Good people here trying to help. I thank you all. Haven't used electrum since my desktop experience back in the day but the mobile app seems really good. I can learn a lot from this forum. Going to be a silent member untill I'm somewhat less of a pleb. 

10  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 11, 2023, 09:43:11 AM
I already deleted this trust wallet. I think I made a mistake with my last transaction tho. After a while i still had the option to cancel it so i did and the fees were deducted anyway which i understand but usually you can't cancel a bitcoin transaction? I know about double spending but that isn't the case here. I made a new transaction which i can still cancel. (Just to empty this trust wallet balance). I suppose it won't go through although block explorer says it's all good. New transaction:
https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/328d3229123b9b41840ee5c2d5d868b2a9f2d57ac2f92e56a06ebab83e2a08a6

This is still a transaction made from electrum using the twt seed in order to empty the wallet. Funds are still funds.
Will never use trust wallet after this and make several new electrum wallets. Hoping i get this sorted out first tho.
11  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 11, 2023, 08:08:54 AM
I tried this and it says insufficient funds (0). I don't know how to upload a screenshot here. Very oldschool interface with good reason I suppose. I'm just a pleb.

And just now, like magic i tried the exact same thing again and it worked. Earlier it also turned to white but when i proceeded it said insufficient funds. Now it's all good. Thank you man. Really helped me.
12  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 11, 2023, 07:11:02 AM
So i imported the seeds. It shows all transactions and balance. When i try to send anything and click on max nothing happens. As in i have no funds while there is 1.93 mbtc that should be available.
13  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 11, 2023, 07:02:01 AM
Damn that was stupid of me lol. Thanks a lot i could import it finally!
14  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Re: Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 11, 2023, 06:55:19 AM
Thank you for your reply. It doesn't matter how much i lower the amount i still get the same error. The same goes with adjusting the fees higher or lower. Same problem.

I don't see the BIP39 option on the mobile app.
I have the option to create new wallets on electrum or import only read only modus. When i try to import the 12 frase seed it doesn't let me go to the next step in order to import the wallet.
15  Bitcoin / Wallet software / Trust wallet dust UTXO error on: May 11, 2023, 06:45:56 AM
Hello all,

I have send 45 euro to my trust wallet yesterday.
I have made over 31000 euro in transactions on this wallet only. Trust support is like talking to a wall only even worse.

I am trying to send an amount to another wallet. It doesn't work. I always get the same error no matter how high i set the fees. The amount i am trying to send is not smaller than the fees. I can't even send 20 euro while paying 600 sats for fees. Getting sick of this. Trying to swap btc for any other coin and that is also not possible. Nothing is available. I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling the app on Android and still the same. Anyone else with the same issues? Can't import my wallet to electrum because it doesn't recognize the 12 seed words.

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