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121  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 06, 2015, 09:04:10 PM
We received quite a few messages and questions regarding to the physical company and I just want to clarify

Our plan is to implement the structure which was posted in this thread earlier. We have been organizing the set-up, but we are still waiting further clarification to be certain that such structure is legal in the US and the business is not breach of US securities laws. Therefore, we can't guaranty and don't promise that the two tier structure will be implemented in the described way or it can go ahead at all. We are trying to organize a DAC, but we hear as many opinions as many lawyers we ask, and if such DAC is illegal in the US then we will have to organize it somewhere else, for example in the UK or Ireland.

We are not offering shares in a physical company with the VICR contract. If the structure can be implemented legally then the VICR owners will be able to claim their ownership in the physical company if they wish to do so, but we can't guaranty and promise anything regarding to this - with those posts we only informed the community what we are up to regarding to this matter, and that we try our best to create a community driven DAC.





No, it won't be legal in the US -nor many other countries-. You can  create a coin and sell or distribute it as you like -at least until regulation in the US is established-. But a company, LLC or any other, is a different matter and subject to specific rules. In your case, you could create the company and own it yourselves, as an LLC, but you cannot distribute shares or ownership the way you intend to. And you do know that a US-registered company requires, by law, to file quarterly statements, I assume.

Furthermore, your whole business plan -as I understand it, since it is "explained" in such a convoluted way-, needs to be seriously restructured under very different an specific parameters, including, as paramount, a system (only "boots on the ground" will do) to filter any and all illegal activity BEFORE it happens. It cannot be done with tech alone. You would be victim of anyone in crypto simply by broadcasting a minor and calling the authorities. Your whole operation would be closed and you'll be liable for criminal and financial damages.

Finally, you hope to sign "top models" that are making a mint in FIAT to be paid in crypto, "tokens", whatever? Good luck with that.

Thank you for pointing out the issues with the securities offering. As we said we are not offering shares nor securities, the VICR contract owners could claim if they wish to do so the shares in the physical LLC. Would be such road to the ownership the breach of US securities laws? Some lawyers say it is, others say it is not. If it is not possible in the US, then we can implement the DAC in the UK.

We fully agree that the business plan is far from complete and we need experienced business professionals on board. We try our best to recruit them. We have just started this process, we are at the beginning of the road and lets hope experienced professionals will see potential in our technology and help us to take the network to the next level.

I agree about the issue of filtering. All sites have this issue. The main purpose of the trusted node concept in GadgetNet and the centralization to stop illegal content and to comply with laws and regulations. In a fully decentralized P2P streaming such filtering wouldn't be possible. We try to build a community here and we hope the community members will help us to monitor the content, especially that such content is close to a geek's heart.

Please note, the models will get paid in FAIT if they opt that cash out method. The partner site www.jizzmo.net will accept both FIAT and Bitcoin. The underlying crypto technology will be completely transparent to models and viewers.




122  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 06, 2015, 03:48:34 PM
A new VICR contract has been rolled out at US$ 30.00 unit prices to get 5% commission for 10 Hours video streaming and 90 ores deposit.
123  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 06, 2015, 02:00:53 PM
We will roll out a new contract in the next 1 hour. It requires a system update and the wallet will be offline for short period of time.

124  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 06, 2015, 12:57:09 PM
We received quite a few messages and questions regarding to the physical company and I just want to clarify

Our plan is to implement the structure which was posted in this thread earlier. We have been organizing the set-up, but we are still waiting further clarification to be certain that such structure is legal in the US and the business is not breach of US securities laws. Therefore, we can't guaranty and don't promise that the two tier structure will be implemented in the described way or it can go ahead at all. We are trying to organize a DAC, but we hear as many opinions as many lawyers we ask, and if such DAC is illegal in the US then we will have to organize it somewhere else, for example in the UK or Ireland.

We are not offering shares in a physical company with the VICR contract. If the structure can be implemented legally then the VICR owners will be able to claim their ownership in the physical company if they wish to do so, but we can't guaranty and promise anything regarding to this - with those posts we only informed the community what we are up to regarding to this matter, and that we try our best to create a community driven DAC.



125  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 06, 2015, 12:32:31 PM
will the combined small and large contracts still = 200k GDCish?

Yes, it will be a "max_sell_amount" field in the base contract and the system will stop accepting orders at 200k, and then no more coin will be issued until the 200k is burned.



There wont be anymore contracts after these ones for acquiring ore correct?

No, there won't be more VICR contracts. The streaming nodes will receive ores for streaming the video, but those ores will be at a later stage deposited once the VICR coins are gone and burned.

So no other ores will be convertible to GDC until all of the contract GDC is burned?

There won't be any more forging until the VICR related coins are burned, there will be a start time clause in the streaming nodes' contract. However please note if there are no streaming nodes then there is no live show streaming on the network. Once the video streaming start, the streaming nodes will be very important for the network and we need to incentives streaming nodes to broadcast the video. The network need the VICR contracts to set-up the streaming and the VICR owners need the streaming nodes to create an excellent user experience for viewers which will increase the trust in the network and consequently the price of GDC.


126  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 06, 2015, 03:07:59 AM
will the combined small and large contracts still = 200k GDCish?

Yes, it will be a "max_sell_amount" field in the base contract and the system will stop accepting orders at 200k, and then no more coin will be issued until the 200k is burned.



There wont be anymore contracts after these ones for acquiring ore correct?

No, there won't be more VICR contracts. The streaming nodes will receive ores for streaming the video, but those ores will be at a later stage deposited once the VICR coins are gone and burned.
127  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 11:16:21 PM
will the combined small and large contracts still = 200k GDCish?

Yes, it will be a "max_sell_amount" field in the base contract and the system will stop accepting orders at 200k, and then no more coin will be issued until the 200k is burned.

128  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 11:07:29 PM
what is the story with the exchanges? when the models are active we can easily achieve the USD 5 price, but we need to be on the exchanges. without the exchanges a higher price never going to happen.

btw, my transaction is completed but I haven't received my ores.

Yes, we will be on the exchanges permit that an exchange will list this completely new blockchain.

Please double check your ore balance. The system completed all deposits about 30 minutes ago and all users should have received it.

129  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 10:26:56 PM
We have received many user requests regarding a lower priced VICR contract. The main purpose of the VICR contract is to build a community and get new users into P2P video streaming technology, and we understand the 1.1 BTC price currently prevents many users from being involved with GadgetNet tech. So we are rolling out a 10 hours VICR contract which will cost around 0.11 BTC.
The new contract will be available tomorrow.
130  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 03:45:39 PM
131  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 03:38:40 PM
I remember it was a picture in the OP and you posted a while back about a DAC (decentralized autonomous company) will be created here. Is it still on the table?


We have been organizing this structure. We have registered two companies to implement the structure. Company "A" which name is GadgetNet LLC (Delaware State File Number: 57077-25), is the DAC company which hold 100% ownership in company "B". The reason of this two tier company structure is that we will bring further investment  into the project from venture capitalists. Unfortunately, VC investor firms don't even start considering a deal with an LLC company which has many individual owners like Company "A" will have. I am not sure why, but that's how VC firms work, according to them, they tried many times, but failed to close the deal with private companies that was owned by many-many owners. Such deal is just too much hassle, wast of time for them. So we will have to bring Company B into the deal of VC investment. The VC will have to talk to one representative of Company B, which simplifies the investment process without compromising the interest of our early angel investors who owns (together with the developers) 100% of Company B via Company A, GadgetNet LLC.

We believe a serious VC investment is absolutely essential to take the GadgetNet blockchain concept to large and medium size businesses and IoT system integrators.

Company A, GadgetNet LLC will be the DAC by managing company matters (such as voting and profit distribution) via the blockchain and smart contracts.

The ownership in Company A, GadgetNet LLC will be claimed via the VICR contracts. The ownership in GadgetNet LLC comes with the VICR contract for no extra charge. The ownership isn't mandatory, it is entirely optional for VICR contract owners to claim ownership in the DAC company. VICR contract owners don't have to claim their ownership in GadgetNet LLC, but we believe such formalized partnership provides all stakeholders with many benefits. In due course we will explain to VICR owners how to send a signed message to claim their ownership.

DISCLAIMER
Please note we are not selling company shares nor it's a securities offering. The ownership in GadgetNet LLC is an extra option for free of charge to formalize partnership with angel investors who are interested in digital currency. The option of claiming ownership in the DAC company does not effect the rights of VICR owners regarding to the 5% commission nor other aspects of the contract.



Thanks for your reply. Sounds interesting, certainly different than the another 1000 alt coins. Is your DAC organized like the Bitshares? http://wiki.bitshares.org/index.php/DAC/Distributed_Autonomous_Company


Essentially it is organized in the same way. Our blockchain is a transaction ledger and all company data, finances, profit distribution are via the blockchain and using PPK infrastructrure.

I think the main difference is - apart from the fact that Bitshare is a matured technology with an enthusiastic, strong and active community - that in our case a physical, legally registered company attached to the virtual shareholdings of DAC. A virtual Distributed Autonomous Company (DAC) is a perfect field to play company ownership as well as allows company management in an exciting new way, but to provide services for real businesses, manage the intellectual property, bring in VC investment, deal with authorities and enforce shareholders' rights in the court of law, we need a legally registered physical company. We start with this structure, everything is clear from the beginning: the virtual DAC shares and rights are in correlation with the legally registered company.



132  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 11:04:09 AM
Is there another way to invest in the company besides buying VICR contracts?

Currently it is only via VICR contracts and please let us know if you have any suggestions or questions regarding to the alternatives.

We want to build a DAC with people who are interested in digital currency, IoT and the GadgetNet idea, an I imagine there will be share options for supporters who market this idea or provide technical support, but there is nothing finalized about that and such expansion of ownership will be the decision of the shareholders of the DAC.

133  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 03:51:51 AM
I remember it was a picture in the OP and you posted a while back about a DAC (decentralized autonomous company) will be created here. Is it still on the table?


We have been organizing this structure. We have registered two companies to implement the structure. Company "A" which name is GadgetNet LLC (Delaware State File Number: 57077-25), is the DAC company which hold 100% ownership in company "B".....

Fantastic, what's the name of Company "B"?

GadgetNet LLC, and it is in Wyoming.
134  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 03:34:43 AM
How could I Runn a stream server node to earn ore?
is it just runing a specific software on PC? or need buy some Hardware?


As first use cases we will need to stream adult and gaming contents so I will explain the requirements regarding to those. These require to run our hybrid RTMP-WebRTC node software and you need a server rather than a PC. You don't need a powerful server to start with, but obviously if you have more power then your server can stream more video and you can earn more ores. The main requirements are the bandwidth and network connection. I suggest 250 Mbps and 1 Gbps respectively - more is obviously better. And the main issue is the internet traffic, you will be broadcasting quite a few TB data - large scale video streaming generates a huge traffic.

Terms of software, you will have to download the source of our streaming software and compile it or alternatively we can send you the binary. The platform is Linux for this specific node and we use mainly Ubuntu servers. (The P2P streaming client will run on Windows, Mac and Linux).

EDIT:

Please do not rent or buy a server just now, please wait until we post specifics about the launch date of streaming!
135  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 03:17:00 AM
I remember it was a picture in the OP and you posted a while back about a DAC (decentralized autonomous company) will be created here. Is it still on the table?


We have been organizing this structure. We have registered two companies to implement the structure. Company "A" which name is GadgetNet LLC (Delaware State File Number: 57077-25), is the DAC company

Wow. I just told someone not long time ago here in BCT that I would be interested in these type of tech and coins, because projects like this could attract VC investment - permit the project is managed properly. On that note, you need a communication and marketing guy ASAP!

What is the share capital of the LLC, how much share can be claimed with the VICR and what is the share class?



The share capital of GadgetNet LLC is US$ 100,000 and there are 100,000,000 shares with US$ 0.001 per share price. Each VICR contract can claim 200,000 shares which is US$ 200 share capital. So the VICR contract gets 900 GDC and the 200,000 shares in GadgetNet LLC, but again, we are not advertising a share purchase option with this and this is entirely an optional claim of ownership that is attached to the commission contract. Since this is a decentralized autonomous corporation we thought the shares should be A voting shares. Also, there is a drag-along clause attached to the shares.

136  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 05, 2015, 01:12:16 AM
I remember it was a picture in the OP and you posted a while back about a DAC (decentralized autonomous company) will be created here. Is it still on the table?


We have been organizing this structure. We have registered two companies to implement the structure. Company "A" which name is GadgetNet LLC (Delaware State File Number: 57077-25), is the DAC company which hold 100% ownership in company "B". The reason of this two tier company structure is that we will bring further investment  into the project from venture capitalists. Unfortunately, VC investor firms don't even start considering a deal with an LLC company which has many individual owners like Company "A" will have. I am not sure why, but that's how VC firms work, according to them, they tried many times, but failed to close the deal with private companies that was owned by many-many owners. Such deal is just too much hassle, wast of time for them. So we will have to bring Company B into the deal of VC investment. The VC will have to talk to one representative of Company B, which simplifies the investment process without compromising the interest of our early angel investors who owns (together with the developers) 100% of Company B via Company A, GadgetNet LLC.

We believe a serious VC investment is absolutely essential to take the GadgetNet blockchain concept to large and medium size businesses and IoT system integrators.

Company A, GadgetNet LLC will be the DAC by managing company matters (such as voting and profit distribution) via the blockchain and smart contracts.

The ownership in Company A, GadgetNet LLC will be claimed via the VICR contracts. The ownership in GadgetNet LLC comes with the VICR contract for no extra charge. The ownership isn't mandatory, it is entirely optional for VICR contract owners to claim ownership in the DAC company. VICR contract owners don't have to claim their ownership in GadgetNet LLC, but we believe such formalized partnership provides all stakeholders with many benefits. In due course we will explain to VICR owners how to send a signed message to claim their ownership.

DISCLAIMER
Please note we are not selling company shares nor it's a securities offering. The ownership in GadgetNet LLC is an extra option for free of charge to formalize partnership with angel investors who are interested in digital currency. The option of claiming ownership in the DAC company does not effect the rights of VICR owners regarding to the 5% commission nor other aspects of the contract.

137  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin and Porn on: July 05, 2015, 12:05:11 AM
Ok well as someone that talked to models that have 100K+ followers they like bitcoin that is true, the features it can bring to the cam world will be great but they don't see the traffic. No bitcoin cam site is even bringing in the traffic they are looking for. When they have 9,000 people in their room every time they get online and making $75K+ a year and we can't even support a $25K+ salary, then they will never come. I would rather see all the digital cam sites come together more and really focus on marketing together to get models and customers.

Bitcoin is very niche and to start an alt coin without the liquidity that we have, is not going to go anywhere. Especially when smart contracts can be done easily in bitcoin then it really doesn't help, it actually confuses and frustrates models more.

I totally understand what you are trying to do, it is the same reason I started my cam site, not to make a lot of money but to show these sites/models that bitcoin can be worth more as the underlying technology.



GadgetNet's www.jizzmo.net website, and whether it will be able to generate traffic or not has nothing to do with the liquidity of altcoins. The www.jizzmo.net don't accept altcoins, it accept Bitcoin from our customers, therefore the liquidity of altcoins is irrelevant. (We also accept FIAT but that is also irrelevant in this context).



 
138  Other / Off-topic / Re: Bitcoin and Porn on: July 04, 2015, 03:48:01 PM
Eventually, BTC usage will reflect Internet trends more broadly. If one of the biggest, if not the actual biggest, uses of the Internet is for people to look for porn, then BTC usage will reflect this.    There will be lots of news articles about BTC and porn, just like there have been with BTC and drugs.

Those kinds of under-the-table areas are where trends start though. Maybe some clever fixes for security, anonymity, or whatever else can come out of people using digital currency for adult entertainment.

That's what we try to do at GadgetNet http://bit.ly/1qCi1zv and www.jizzmo.net - bring security, anonymity and flexible business rules via smart contracts by accepting Bitcoin from customers.
139  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 04, 2015, 03:41:52 PM
I understand why centralization is required in the software, but I think the lack of decentralization will keep the digital currency community away from Gadgetnet.

decentralization and digital currency  is tools, for giving user better and more convenient services with lower cost.

I fully agree. Without having some centralization in the system we are simply unable to work with real world businesses. In order to comply with money laundering regulations and filter out sick, illegal content such as child pornography we must have certain centralization. Besides that, only administrative part of the system is effected by centralization to manage model sign up, check IDs, bank account details for cash out and process FIAT payments. The core modules such as the P2P nodes, public ledger part of the blockchain are decentralized. We have a choice, have some centralization and as you said provide for users better and more convenient services with lower cost or thinking rigidly about centralization and do nothing about that models currently get paid 50% and sometimes even less from the service providers.
140  Alternate cryptocurrencies / Announcements (Altcoins) / Re: [ANN] [GDC] GadgetCoin | Smart Contracts on Hardware | IoT | M2M on: July 04, 2015, 02:22:12 PM
In the VIDC100HOURS Terms and Conditions ,i have somethings not clear.
1, when i buy VIDC100HOURS ,i get 900 ores, and this 900 ores could forge into GadgetCoin.
After I forge into GDC, I still have the VIDC100HOURS contracts? Am i still the Contract owner?
And still get the GadgetTokens? As below says:
   vi. Allocating the daily commission pool (DCP) to the VIDC100HOURS contracts equally.  For example, if daily commission pool (DCP) is 1,000 GadgetTokens and there are 100 existing VIDC100HOURS contracts on the Network, then each VIDC100HOURS contract balance will be increased by 10 GadgetToken.
    vii. Paying out the commission to the Contract Owner. For example, if each VIDC100HOURS contract receives 10 GadgetToken and the Contract Owner owns 5 VIDC100HOURS contracts then the  Contract Owner receives 50 GadgetToken.

2, Buying VIDC100HOURS get profits from the GDC price rise, or the daily GadgetToken back ?
3,  as it says
 ix. Calculating the total number of daily base of the commission per each VIDC100HOURS contract.  Once the total number of daily base for the commission reaches 100 hours then the contract is marked as completed and will be terminated by the Network.
As times goes by, all the VIDC100HOURS will be marked completed . And there will be no VIDC100HOURS holder.  what is your plan after that time.?

waiting for youˇ


Yes, of course you have the contract until the 5% commission of 100 Hours streaming for a minimum of US$ 900.00 is completed. The system pays off the 5% based on the Contract ID, and therefore you must have the contract. The 900 GDC is only the medium of exchange to facilitate a transaction between the models' smart contracts and VICR smart contracts. I know it sounds complicated, but implementation wise it is a relatively simple smart contract.  

The reason the contract was complicated with the forging is because this way every steps of the process are traceable, auditable and verifiable. The models/broadcasters must buy GDC in order to cash out - otherwise they simply unable to get their cash and since only VICR contracts have GDC (or even if others would have GDC the VICR contracts are the first in the queue of selling GDC to the broadcasters) with this mechanism we can address traceability and audit requirements.

Also, combining the contract with forging allows speculative manoeuvres with the contract. For example, as we have explained already, if you expect a higher price than US$ 1.00 then you can pause the execution of the contract, wait until the GDC price reaches our 6 months target which is US$ 5.00 and then start selling the GDC to the models. In this case, let say if the price is US$ 5.00 you will get the US$ 900.00 for the contract by selling only 180 GDC, and the remaining 720 GDC you can sell for the price of US$ 3,600 permit the price is US$ 5.00.

Please let us know if you have any questions.



So if I don't pause the execution of VIDC100HOURS, my GDCs will be automatic sold out partly everyday ?
GadgetToken could be got every day?  this is no GadgetToken either I pause the contracts or not ?

Yes, that's correct, pausing is optional and if yo don't pause the contract then part of your GDC holding will be sold to the models/broadcasters every day (once the models are cashing out) until the 100 Hours is completed. One of our angel investors asked this option as he speculates for a higher than US 1.00 GDC price.

GadgetToken is an entirely different entity, it is the token purchased by the video viewer customers, and yes, it can be purchased everyday. You can't do anything with GadgetToken except pay for live video shows or later when the implementations and use cases expand pay for all kind of services on the GadgetNet network. GadgetToken is an internal token to convert the FIAT and BTC of paying customers into an entity that is manageable by the smart contracts. It is always pegged to US$ 1.00 based on a mechanism of the Bitshares pegging concept. The paying customers normally know nothing about digital currencies, they just want to watch some live adult or gaming content and they pay for the service buy buying GadgetTokens for BTC or FIAT.


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