Bitcoin Forum
October 02, 2022, 03:41:31 AM *
News: Latest Bitcoin Core release: 23.0 [Torrent]
  Home Help Search Login Register More  
  Show Posts
Pages: « 1 ... 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 [151] 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 ... 417 »
3001  Other / Meta / Re: Questions to theymos about the $350,000 forum software project on: February 13, 2014, 10:47:39 PM
I'm pretty dissapointed that some of the money will go for an automated ad auction system, that will only work on a dying forum software, and will need to be ported to the new custom one after that. Is that really necessary?

The auction system is written in Node. It will be able to be used with the new software without much modification.
3002  Other / Meta / Re: The alleged search function on: February 12, 2014, 02:24:11 PM
As an example, I just typed in "my little bitcoin" (sans the quote marks) in both google and bitcointalk.

The forum understands this as my OR little OR bitcoin. Surround it when quotes and you'll get the desired thread as the first result.
3003  Other / Meta / Re: New inline edit? on: February 12, 2014, 02:07:24 PM
(FORUM: disabled on this page for security.)

That only appears for you. Reload the page and it'll be gone.

On pages where your session code is sent via GET, links are disabled like that. Otherwise, if you clicked on a https link, your session code might be sent in the referrer.
3004  Other / Meta / Re: Site's Security Grade: A- on: February 11, 2014, 11:47:27 PM
Yes, though I assume he did that in the code. It should be user-configurable.
3005  Other / Meta / Re: Questions to theymos about the $350,000 forum software project on: February 11, 2014, 02:50:26 AM
I've decided not to create an official announcement thread today. But I will answer some questions.

Who is the owner of the forum?

I've answered this before.

The forum was created by Satoshi and Sirius. Without any explicit agreement or assignment of ownership, it came to be the case that I am now chiefly responsible for forum management. The domain is owned by Sirius. I have no way of forcing him to do anything with it. (Though I recently did gain partial access so that I can change DNS records.) I control a lot of the forum's money. Sirius cannot force me to do anything with this. Various treasurers control other forum money; they're bound by the treasury agreements.

I am not a lawyer, so I can't say for sure who the forum's owner is legally-speaking, and this is irrelevant to me unless I'm dealing with legal stuff.

Who is the owner of the BTC collected by the forum?

I've answered this many times.

I control most of the money. I consider it my responsibility to appropriately manage this money for the non-profit benefit of the forum, Bitcoin, and the world. I take this responsibility seriously. However, I retain sole control over how the money is spent. No one has any right to influence my decisions, though I can be convinced by reasonable arguments.

The rest of the money is held by treasurers bound by the treasury agreements. Under the treasury agreements, I have a lot of decision-making power, but I can be over-ruled in some cases.

Again, talk to a lawyer if you want to know who owns the money according to governments. I don't care about this unless I have to.

Is bitcointalk a registered not for profit?

No. I avoid the term "non-profit" in official materials to avoid giving the impression that a government has assigned the forum with a non-profit label, but the term does accurately represent the philosophy of the forum. No one gets or will ever get any kind of dividend from forum revenue.

Why do you think we needed to spend so much for software when there are free or much cheaper option available?

The most popular forum software is:
- Old.
- Written in PHP, which sucks.
- Written insecurely and messily.
- Difficult to modify, especially safely.
- Not much more featureful than SMF, if at all.

There are a handful of newer forum software packages which solve some of those problems, but all of them are very sparse in features.

The goal of this software project is to create new, open source forum software which will compete with SMF, phpBB, etc.

What special features will the forum have?

This isn't completely defined yet. It'll have almost all features that we have now. A main goal will be improving filtering and data presentation so that users can more easily manage the flood of posts both board-wide and within threads, while simultaneously reducing the need for centralized moderation.

The $350,000 was just a down payment or the full amount owed? If it is not the full amount how much more could this end up costing us?

The total cost will probably be around $1 million. The $350,000 covers several months of work, after which I will evaluate the performance of Slickage Studios and choose whether or not to continue. In any case, the code will be open source, so no work will be lost.

When will the software be finished?

About one year from now.

Are you getting a kick back from this operation or do you hold any interest in his company?


Any plans for implementing some sort of a 2FA in the new forum? (this is especially important for people conducting trades over the forum)

Yes, there will be 2FA.

What do you think about creating new boards or subdomains for altcoins for a recurring (monthly or quarterly) fee? They could even be excluded from the main forum's statistics, and have their own rules and policies (only retaining a few obvious such as no linking to SR-type onion sites or no trades of goods which are illegal in the buyer's or in the seller's country).

Maybe. I don't see any harm in that if it isn't too difficult/expensive.

Will there be a working non-javascript version of the forum?

Yes, though some advanced functionality may be unavailable without JavaScript.

Why is the forum paying people a fee to store the forum's bitcoin when storing bitcoin is free? Can't the forum find enough people that will store bitcoin for free?

Some of the treasurers do store funds for free, but extremely-trustworthy people who will do this are rare.
3006  Other / Meta / Re: Refund of Donations on: February 09, 2014, 07:38:23 PM
I cannot conceive of any case in which I would return donations. The forum is not a bank that holds money for years before returning it (after a substantial value increase).

After the forum software project is taken care of and I'm sure that the money is really not needed, I may allow donators to assign their donation to some Bitcoin-accepting non-profit organization. If I do this, it will only be possible for a one-time period of a few months. Otherwise, donated funds would be worthless because donators could at any time remove their donations from the forum's control.

contracts do not have to be "physHical" to be valid. and no.... he has to use the money for what he said he would.

First: Where did I say that I would use all of the donated funds for any particular project? When you donated, the Donate page said something like, "Donations will mostly be used for forum software development." The Donate topic made no mention of forum software. At various points I said things like "I intend to get forum software created soon," which was true at the time, but I never said that I definitely would do it soon.

Second: I am using the money for forum software development, so your complaint is ridiculous. It is not ridiculous (though IMO incorrect) to criticize exactly how I'm spending forum money toward achieving this goal, but you donated knowing that I alone was responsible for managing donated funds without any oversight except such oversight that I create. The Donate page has always said, "Donated funds are managed by theymos."

I admit that it was never particularly my plan to wait years before spending donated funds (though my belief in Bitcoin's long-term value influenced my conservative spending), but this ended up creating loads of money for the forum, so I don't feel too bad about it.

You have a Donator section and a special icon. The details of the Donator section were never specified. In fact, I always phrased these perks like this: "If you become a Donator/VIP, then you get access to these perks." Notice that I do not promise that the perks will last forever; only that you will, for a time, receive them.
3007  Other / Meta / Re: Urgent clarification on "giveaways" on: February 09, 2014, 02:34:18 AM
3008  Other / Meta / Re: Urgent clarification on "giveaways" on: February 09, 2014, 01:34:17 AM
- Can giveaways/promotions be held in the main coin thread if the thread poster is OK with this?


- Would I be allowed to post a thread in the trading section enabling me to purchase signature space for coins?

3009  Other / Meta / Re: Site's Security Grade: A- on: February 09, 2014, 01:29:43 AM
Disabling ciphers may cause some sites to stop working. I'd only disable the very weak ones (if any very weak ones are enabled). Especially since HTTPS authentication is nearly useless anyway.

With TLS, the client sends a list of ciphers and then the server picks one. Sometimes (as with, the server picks the first supported cipher listed by the client. You should be able to tell Firefox the order in which to list ciphers, but there's no support for this AFAIK.

For choosing cipher suites:
- GCM is better than CBC.
- (EC)DHE provides forward secrecy. (Forward secrecy means that if someone records the encrypted network traffic, they can't later decrypt the traffic by obtaining a private key from the server.)
- AES is the best encryption algorithm. I wouldn't be surprised if effective attacks against RC4 are known to the NSA. Camellia is not as well-studied as AES, but it is preferred by most browsers for no apparent reason, which makes me suspicious.
3010  Economy / Auctions / Advertise on this forum - Round 111 on: February 06, 2014, 01:47:06 AM
The forum sells ad space in the area beneath the first post of every topic page. About 25% of ad income goes to the forum moderators as thanks for all of their work. (There are many moderators, so each moderator gets only a small amount -- moderators should be seen as volunteers, not employees.) The rest is stored in the forum's treasury (verifiably), where it sits until the forum needs it.

Ads are allowed to contain any non-annoying HTML/CSS style. No images, JavaScript, or animation (no marquee or blinking). Ads must appear 3 or fewer lines tall in my browser (Firefox, 700px wide). Ad text may not contain lies, misrepresentation, or inappropriate language. Ads may not link directly to any NSFW page. Ads may be rejected for other reasons.

There are 10 total ad slots which are randomly rotated. So one ad slot has a one in ten chance of appearing. Eight of the slots are for sale here. Ads appear only on topic pages with more than one post, and only for people using the default theme.

The ad lasts at least 7 days starting from when I put it up. (However, if you look at the ad history you'll see that ads frequently get 1-2 extra days, but this is random and definitely not guaranteed.)


Exact historical impression counts per slot:

Info about the current ad slots:

Ad blocking

Hero members, Donators, VIPs, and moderators have the ability to disable ads. I don't expect many people to use this option. These people don't increase the impression counts for your ads.

I try to bypass Adblock Plus filters as much as possible, though this is not guaranteed. It is difficult or impossible for ABP filters to block the ad space itself without blocking posts. However, filters can match against the URLs in your links, your CSS classes and style attributes, and the HTML structure of your ads.

To prevent matches against URLs: I have some JavaScript which fixes links blocked by ABP. You must tell me if you want this for your ads. When someone with ABP and JavaScript enabled views your ads, your links are changed to a special randomized URL which redirects to your site when visited. People without ABP are unaffected, even if they don't have JavaScript enabled. The downsides are:
- ABP users will see the redirection link when they hover over the link, even if they disable ABP for the forum.
- Getting referral stats might become even more difficult.
- Some users might get a warning when redirecting from https to http.

To prevent matching on CSS classes/styles: Don't use inline CSS. I can give your ad a CSS class that is randomized on each pageload, but you must request this.

To prevent matching against your HTML structure: Use only one <a> and no other tags if possible. If your ads get blocked because of matching done on something inside of your ad, you are responsible for noticing this and giving me new ad HTML.

Auction rules

Post your bids in this thread. Prices must be stated in BTC per slot. You must state the max number of slots you want. When the auction ends, the highest bidders will have their slots filled until all eight slots are filled.

I reserve the right to reject bids, even days after the bid is made. In particular, bids from people with less than 15 activity points are likely to be rejected. I recommend not getting into a bidding war with someone who has less than 15 activity points, as their bids might not be accepted, but your latest bids will still stand. If you need to know right away whether someone's bids will be accepted, PM me.

So if someone bids for 8 slots @ 5 BTC and this is the highest bid, then he'll get all 8 slots. If the two highest bids are 8 slots @ 4 BTC and 1 slot @ 5 BTC, then the first person will get 7 slots and the second person will get 1 slot.

The notation "2 @ 5" means 2 slots for 5 BTC each. Not 2 slots for 5 BTC total.

- When you post a bid, the bids in your previous posts are considered to be automatically canceled. You can put multiple bids in one post, however.
- All bid prices must be evenly divisible by 0.05.
- The bidding starts at 0.50.
- I will end the auction at an arbitrary time no more than 12 days from now. (I will probably end the auction 1-3 days before the ads are scheduled to go up.)
- If two people bid at the same price, the person who bid first will have his slots filled first.
- Bids are considered invalid and will be ignored if they do not specify both a price and a max quantity, or if they could not possibly win any slots

If these rules are confusing, look at some of the past forum ad auctions to see how it's done.

You must pay for your slots within 24 hours of receiving the payment address. Otherwise your slots may be sold to someone else.
3011  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 110 on: February 06, 2014, 01:42:18 AM
1 @ 1.7

You're too new. Next time, PM me first so you can pay in advance.

Auction ended. Final result:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
2 1.70 darbsllim
1 1.70 ppanther
1 1.70 LuckyBitSupport
1 1.65 MakeBTC
3 1.65 CEX
3012  Other / Meta / Re: Plz add view 'Recent Post' on all boards on: February 03, 2014, 11:04:35 PM
Legal and French only:;boards=74,13
3013  Economy / Service Discussion / Re: Obligatory I'm not dead or running post on: February 03, 2014, 10:59:54 PM
To conclude, here's the most dangerous one in my opinion (positive feedback from 2014, months after John has gone MIA):
Quote from: theymos
Held BTC for the forum.

Please, people, quit posting "positive trust", this is a scammer's godly tool.
Time to remove all those ratings, too.

He held 1000 BTC for a long time and then returned it at around the time of that rating (after annoyingly being MIA, but still). This is worthy of positive feedback in my book, and it's strong evidence that John will probably not intentionally scam anyone.

I agree that it's unprofessional for him to leave everyone hanging, but sometimes life happens and these things become unavoidable. (I don't know his exact circumstances.)
3014  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: Roger Ver and Jon Matonis pushed aside now that Bitcoin is becoming mainstream on: February 02, 2014, 07:06:30 PM
But suppose it does cross over entirely to the dark side.  What then?  Doesn't the BCF essentially run this site?  What happens then?

No, this forum is unaffiliated with the Foundation. Same for

I think that the Foundation has done good things in the past, and they'll probably do good things in the future. But over time, there will be a growing desire to centralize via the Foundation. Centralization is an easy way to solve problems, and the Foundation is the obvious recipient of centralized control. We must all diligently watch out for this and act to stop it if necessary.
3015  Other / Meta / Re: Site's Security Grade: A- on: February 02, 2014, 06:24:22 PM
The server does not support Forward Secrecy with the reference browsers.

This is misleading. It should say, "Some of the reference browsers choose not to select a forward-secrecy cipher." The server supports forward secrecy if the client requests it, and in fact most browsers do select a FS cipher. The server also allows non-FS ciphers because, among ciphers supported by older browsers, the non-FS ciphers are stronger.
3016  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 110 on: February 01, 2014, 10:33:04 PM
No offense but FYI I my ad blocker blocks all of your current adds.

Most of the current ads don't follow the guidelines I mentioned, so they can be individually targeted. Notice that the Private Internet Access ad (which I manage according to all guidelines) is not blocked.
3017  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 110 on: February 01, 2014, 06:27:04 AM
I've sent you the bitcoins equal to my bid of 1.25

OK, you can bid up to 2.5 total without paying more. Pay to the same address as before if you want to increase your bids beyond that.

Current status:
Slots BTC/Slot Person
1 1.30 Goat
1 1.30 victorhing
1 1.25 MakeBTC
2 1.25 ppanther
3 1.20 CEX
3018  Economy / Economics / Re: When to "move the decimal points" ? on: February 01, 2014, 06:17:04 AM
It's not for display.

why would someone set a constant MAX_MONEY = 21000000 * COIN; for display purposes? The display would never go past that so it would be useless to set that constant just to control display.

So in fact, the BTC value is set in code.

The transaction fee per kB is also set in the code. That doesn't mean that it can't be changed.

COIN is used in various places in the code to make BTC amounts easier for programmers to read. MAX_MONEY = 21000000 * COIN is the same as MAX_MONEY = 2100000000000000. Except in a small amount of code very close to the UI, all Bitcoin values in the code are stored as integer satoshi amounts. (MAX_MONEY is used in transaction verification, but its unit is not BTC.)
3019  Economy / Auctions / Re: Advertise on this forum - Round 110 on: January 31, 2014, 10:06:36 PM
1 @ 1.25

As I said before, I will not accept your bids unless you pay in advance.
3020  Bitcoin / Bitcoin Discussion / Re: What is the right and fair way to stop Mike Hearn? on: January 31, 2014, 12:10:15 AM
From this what I understand, authorities can get control of these 10 authoritative directory servers to get their pas data.

Maybe, though the servers are located in a few different countries.

These data will have the IP details of Satoshi... right ?

No, the attacker would only be able to affect new Tor connections.
Pages: « 1 ... 101 102 103 104 105 106 107 108 109 110 111 112 113 114 115 116 117 118 119 120 121 122 123 124 125 126 127 128 129 130 131 132 133 134 135 136 137 138 139 140 141 142 143 144 145 146 147 148 149 150 [151] 152 153 154 155 156 157 158 159 160 161 162 163 164 165 166 167 168 169 170 171 172 173 174 175 176 177 178 179 180 181 182 183 184 185 186 187 188 189 190 191 192 193 194 195 196 197 198 199 200 201 ... 417 »
Powered by MySQL Powered by PHP Powered by SMF 1.1.19 | SMF © 2006-2009, Simple Machines Valid XHTML 1.0! Valid CSS!